Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread Lorrie
I hate bow hunting or any hunting whatsoever. I'd really love to see a hunter with a bow stuck in him, and I'm quite delighted when I hear that a hunter has shot his hunting buddy by mistake. Lorrie On 10-01, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Bow hunting has started in my area and I keep my cats

Re: [Felvtalk] Kittens testing positive

2012-10-02 Thread Lorrie
Janine, There really is no way to be absolutely certain some of those other kittens weren't exposed to FelV. The only thing you can do is isolate the FelV kitten and retest them all in 3 months. Often they retest neg. I do rescue work and at the moment I am holding 4 FelV kittens who are 5

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread Natalie
I monitor all the hunting accidents, it happens a lot, but unfortunately, innocent bystanders get hurt or killed, too - not to mention all the domestic animals, even farm animals. An Indiana hunter was killed on a youth day hunt, and two men with a 10-yr old kid with them, blamed it on him.

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread Joslin Potter
I'm thankful for deer season, it provides my family with meat, as well as keeping population under control. -Joslin From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, October 2, 2012 9:16 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread Natalie
It may provide your family with meat, BUT, technically, hunting doesn't really lower deer populations except in the immediate aftermath of a cull. Next year, there will be the same number of deer, if not more, because hunting encourages and spurs reproduction through compensatory rebound and

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread Joslin Potter
I agree with you, but what would happen if we didn't have a hunting season, do you think they would not still reproduce like they do now? To each their own, again, I'm just thankful for the life of a deer, and the people who do purchase linceses as this money is put back into the wild life. The

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread Lorrie
Bow hunting is CRUEL. It often leaves the poor animal in agony and it dies a slow painful death. We had a buck dying in our yard last winter, and we had to call for someone to put it out of it's misery. It was horrible and I was upset for weeks. I still can't stand to think about it. Hunters

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread Heather
This just happened not far from us, our cat community is very upset and the person removed the tip of the arrow to avoid identification. http://www.myfoxtampabay.com/story/19661631/2012/09/27/cat-shot-with-arrow-recovering#.UGWrSCitdWc.facebook On Tue, Oct 2, 2012 at 5:04 PM, Lorrie

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread Natalie
No, they wouldn’t reproduce the same way, that’s the whole point! According to research on reproduction, hunted herds twin only 14%, while hunted herds twin or even triple at 38%. It’s just nature’s way! In fact, predators are better hunters because they go for the sick and old animals, while

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread GRAS
Yes, it is the cruelest blood sport, except maybe with an atlatl, a really old type spear. Statistics for bowhunting injuries are over 50% - that means that for every deer actually tracked and retrieved, another one that has been shot with an arrow gets away, to die a slow, lingering death (all

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread GRAS
The person who had the experience with Braveheart is actually a member, and I joined at her suggestion because I had two FeLV+ cats at the time. Natalie -Original Message- From: GRAS [mailto:g...@optonline.net] Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 9:01 PM To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Yes, I've heard from wildlife experts that the population of all species will level off at the carrying capacity (food, shelter) of the habitat, despite predation (of any sort). This is why if you want to reduce a species' population, you have to sterilize and return, so the sterilized ones take

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread Marcia
Yes, they are. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2012, at 8:47 AM, Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm thankful for deer season, it provides my family with meat, as well as keeping population under control. -Joslin From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread Marcia
There are several of us on this list who do not eat meat and believe that animals have the right to a life apart from what humans think they're here for, i.e. simply to feed humans or be used as a sporting event. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2012, at 1:44 PM, Joslin Potter

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread Marcia
Yeah Natalie!!! (-: Sent from my iPhone On Oct 2, 2012, at 10:52 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: It may provide your family with meat, BUT, technically, hunting doesn’t really lower deer populations except in the immediate aftermath of a cull. Next year, there will be the same

[Felvtalk] FW: Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread GRAS
It’s really interesting because when, and that’s rarely, that they reach a biological carrying capacity (or in a severe winter and no food), sperm counts go down and females, in real dire situations, will actually absorb their fetuses. Also, people mistake deer as starving in the winter

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread GRAS
In CT and many other states they are no longer required to have IDs on arrows - it was fought tooth and nail because they didn't want to be identified as bad marksmen! From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather Sent: Tuesday, October 02, 2012 5:51 PM To: