Ask Parker to send you the right one..honest. A month after Dixie
left this world, she sent me a kitten from the same pine thicket she
came fromhe was very little so, two weeks later, she sent me
another...they are 6 months old and weigh in at around 8 1/2
Enjoy the time you have. No one, not person or cat or mouse, is
guaranteed a minute of life. If we spend all our time wondering when
we or our friends may leave, we will deprive ourselves of their
happiness and wisdom and we will prevent them from loving us and
teaching us. We all die
They are still with you, just in other forms. It is hard to accept
that but, I promise, it is true. I lost Dixie in June. She remains
close and has sent me two wonderful (formerly very little) kittens to
easy the pain. The (formerly little) kittens condescended to leave
I took Dixie to a holistic vet who did wonders for her quality of
life. She lived 3 wonderful years and had everything If you have
access to one, I would urge you to check it out. (Betty Boswell put
her on several supplements that were great. Dr. Boswell was her first
Oh my. A story I know well. With both Felv+ and Felv- cats. You
have been hooked by an angel. My first and only Felv+ was Dixie. She
was probably 3 or so years old. After I decided to find a way to keep
her (She apparently had lost her home and was hanging out with the
I wonder if Lysine would help with the eye infection? I've used the
supplement with some ferals and, at one point, with Dixie. There are
some nuances though. You need to get them from others on the list.
It has to do with the quality of the supplement. Until you hear from
Try Rescue Remedy in their water and Feliway spray.
On Dec 14, 2008, at 6:19 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
i have 1 pos (Annie who is an alpha type), Homey wo is felv neg, and
2 new girls Homey 2 and Casey who are both neg. big problem is that
Casey is also an alpha so Annie is now
Cougar Clan and Karen,
Thank You so much for your information , it was all so helpful. I am
going to try to reach a holistic vet in my area and do everything I
can to have her for as long as possible. Thank You again.
It sounds like he is a cat. You might consider lean chicken for a
snack. That might tempt him.
On Dec 22, 2008, at 8:30 AM, souther...@aol.com wrote:
He is eating, he just doesn't seem to want his canned food.? I swear
he's like my son was when he was little.? He got sick after eating a
Give them the best possible food and the least possible stress
combined with all the love possible and then some more.
On Dec 23, 2008, at 7:14 AM, patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote:
I have been fostering for a big city shelter and although I almost
always tested new cats
when they came to me
I, too, used a holistic vet with Dixie (FeLV+) and use her with the
two negative feral kittens Dixie sent me when she left this world.
They are extremely healthy, growing very fast, and are generally
wonderful ( as she knew they would be). Dr. Boswell used several
supplements with Dixie
Amen to that. You are providing the most important things..love
and care. A lot is trial and errorsometimes painful error but
those from love are never wrong. They just happen. I learn from each
wonderful creature that choses to come into my life. Let your heart
be open and
Dixie lived with me for 3 years. She was full grown when she came
from a pine thicket where she had been living with a feral colony.
She had the absolute best care possible both from her regular vets and
holistic vets. When she left, I felt and continue to feel, that I had
Blessings to both Murdoch and Stryker and to all who care for them.
They know they are loved and, in their own wonderful way, they return
the love a hundred thousand fold.
On Dec 29, 2008, at 6:59 PM, Sherry DeHaan wrote:
Well I'm sure you all remember me asking for prayes for this sweet
A vet can write one. Best to buy one if possible. Getting some
companies to rent one for use for a pet can be difficult. A
question: divers have tanks. Can one be converted for use?
On Dec 29, 2008, at 8:17 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote:
I had one but passed it on to someone else - can't
Taste of the WIld has similar claims and is available in some pet food
stores. Copper and Thomas love the stuff and so did Dixie. Wellness
has good, grain free cat food in both the cans and dry.
On Jan 1, 2009, at 10:10 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
i ordered a new food, Serengeti from
You cope by knowing you gave our friend love and care, things he would
not have known without you; by learning from him because he had
lessons to teach and lessons to learn; by knowing your love was
returned. The pain will dull as you let his love reach into your
heart. It is awful and
Bless you for caring for these little ones. Losing one is so very
hard. Bright Eyes was so lucky to be loved and cared for.
On Jan 17, 2009, at 2:50 PM, Sharyl wrote:
My sweet little Bright Eyes died this afternoon. He was just 7
months old and had been healthy until a few weeks ago.
My vets and I made the decision not to transfuse Dixie Louise for the
reasons you gave. I am very grateful that my vets were very up front
about the situation and, while they made it an option and assured me
they would arrange it, they would not put their own cats thru it
I am so sorry. I know what an awful time this is for you.
On Jan 28, 2009, at 11:50 PM, tatorb...@aol.com wrote:
I'm letting everyone know this is part of my grieving and makes me
To let you know the situation if I don't respond right away to
I'm still here and very grateful to have the two wonderful kittens my
Dixie (FeLV+ who left this world June 12, 2008) sent me to occupy my
time and heart.
On Feb 3, 2009, at 2:48 PM, James G Wilson wrote:
Just testing the list since there's been no activity since
There are homeopathic drugs you can give them to help.
On Feb 4, 2009, at 9:07 PM, Lynne wrote:
She got her rabies vaccine at the same time so I guess I can't
determine which is causing the problem. The vet checked her over
and decided she was fine today, although he couldn't find the site
This is Dixie's story:
For reasons unknown, a little grey full grown female came to my Mom's
and began eating with the ferals she feeds and staying in a rubbermaid
box I had outfitted as a shelter. I decided she should be a farm cat
at my farm when I got the house built. I took her to
in Louisville was good for both of
On Feb 6, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Cougar Clan wrote:
This is Dixie's story:
For reasons unknown, a little grey full grown female came to my
Mom's and began eating with the ferals she feeds and staying in a
rubbermaid box I had outfitted as a shelter. I
Juno knew love that a lot of people and far too many critters never
know. I am so sorry. I know how much it hurts.
On Feb 6, 2009, at 6:49 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote:
I am so sorry, Sherry, and understand. May she play happily at the
Bridge and know that she was loved. Gloria
in its earlier stages and given him proper care right from
the start, I like to think he'd still be with us.
- Original Message - From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey
Make sure there is no thyroid problem. Hair loose is a common sign of
On Feb 9, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Pebble wrote:
can anyone help me?
My cat has dermatitis and she keeps on taking away her hair. I don't
what to think! My vet says we have to wait but the cat gets worse.
Additional thought food allergies can have this effect too. Try an
On Feb 9, 2009, at 8:08 AM, Pebble wrote:
can anyone help me?
My cat has dermatitis and she keeps on taking away her hair. I don't
what to think! My vet says we have to wait but the cat gets
Check with another vet. A specialist testing the Royal Princess Kitty
Katt (not FeLV+ but diagnosing cancer) about killed her with some
medsof course he said it wasn't the drugs but she straightened up
under the care of her regular vet. For over a week I thought she was
On Feb 9, 2009, at 8:20 AM, Stefania wrote:
Make sure there is no thyroid problem. Hair loose is a
common sign of that.
Could it be that she is allergic to amoxicillin or to the anesthetic?
She developed this dermatitis two day after we stopped amoxicillin
and the day after she was
You may want to have someone do it who uses a laserless bleeding
and easier recovery.
On Feb 10, 2009, at 5:28 PM, gary wrote:
If she were my kitty, I would have her spayed. Yes, there is some
involved in having it done, but there is also stress every time she
Did he do blood work for thyroid problems?
On Feb 11, 2009, at 4:11 AM, Stefania wrote:
Does the vet tell you what he thinks caused the dermatitis?
No, the vet says that it could be amoxicillin but it could also be
something FeLV related or even fleas.
We tried to eliminate
It has been too long since Ebony left this world. I can't remember
the values. However, when he tested for hypothyroidism, it was
believed that cats did not develop the condition. Luckily, my vets
tend to go beyond the typical and ran the appropriate tests. Now it
is pretty well
Blessings to them and to all who care for and about them.
On Feb 15, 2009, at 5:53 AM, Sherry DeHaan wrote:
I am pleading for a major prayer request for these two wonderful
Sids boys.Jazz I fear is not going to pull through and Oscar is
under the weather too.Thanks so much.
Prayers help even if things don't turn out the way we want them to.
They make gentle the way of those we love and loose. I am so sorry
for the pain you and other caregivers are in but you gave these
darlings love and care. Can you imagine how you improved their
lives? Or how it would
After Dixie was tested she received no vaccinations. She became an
indoor cat and was not exposed to anything that she would be
vaccinated for. My vets, both regular and holistic, supported this
decision. Everyone has to make up her own mind but, if I have cats or
any animals who are
One might want to select a less than lethal site for the injection
On Feb 20, 2009, at 12:56 PM, patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote:
I haven't ever heard of any research that indicates what could
you vaccinate an FELV+ cat for FELV.
Most people seem to assume that it would
Bless you. You loved a wonderful cat who loved you even more.
On Feb 26, 2009, at 3:50 PM, Viky Digangi wrote:
In October I joined the group requesting information on hemangio
sarcoma which my felv cat was diagnosed with. Everything I read was
bad. He had the first tumor removed on
He was down on his luck when he met you but he sure made up for it.
Thanks for making his life good. He deserved a good life.
On Feb 27, 2009, at 9:46 AM, Rosenfeldt, Diane wrote:
Sometimes they just plain run out of steam. Gentlest of Bridge
good old Hambone, and hugs to you.
Oh my.don't look at a few more months my friend. Dixie lived
three wonderful years. She was full grown and with a totally unknown
and not good history. She had been a cared for cat at least to the
point that she had been spayed, liked to be petted etc. Some how she
Make sure and give the others very good food too. Chopping carrots
and spinach in canned/frozen food is not hard and is not expensive
either. Dixie loved them.
On Mar 3, 2009, at 8:40 AM, Sue Frank Koren wrote:
Hi Amy, I am so sorry you are going through this. It is hard to
Bless you. He knows he is loved (he is still near you, just not in
the same form) and returns your love times hundreds.
On Mar 24, 2009, at 9:51 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
God bless you and comfort you. dorlis
Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com wrote:
Viky, we mourn with you
Those who love and care for feral cats have a very difficult calling,
one that causes great pain when a feral leaves for any reason.
However, when a feral cares about you, it is the most rewarding
experience because that caring can not be forced nor is it bred into
the cat. Bless you and
I believe it has to be from a roost and not normal bird droppings what
are washed off...you may want to check though. Several of mine have
come from a 40-50 year old pine thicket which, by its nature, has been
a roost for starlings and other birds. Copper and Thomas came from
How wonderful he found a home at an age most cats would be
killed as unadoptable and in a home where he was accepted despite his
grief and confusion. Jonathan was truly blessed that you found him
and that he found you. That doesn't make his leaving any
I will not advocate either side but I will tell you that even inside
cats stand a chance of being exposed. I was on the way in to my
holistic vet's with Copper and Thomas when their (brand new and very
oversized) carrier collapsed. Both kittens took off. The vet and I
were able to
I am so glad he had a home, even for a short time. Blessings to you
and the ones who cared enough and were able to give him a home.
On Apr 1, 2009, at 7:14 PM, Sherry DeHaan wrote:
Desmond was one of our handsome sweet Sids kids.He was lucky enough
to have a home for the last few months of
Pumpkin, not the pie filling but plain canned pumpkin, may help. It
helps when the kittens have problems.
On Apr 2, 2009, at 9:32 AM, Heather wrote:
Ditto that all, and, some Fortiflora might not be a bad idea.
2009/4/2 Debbie Harrison dlh1...@hotmail.com
First off, I'd like to thank you
You can get it on the internetyou can also get Fast Track and/or
other probiotics. At least one person mentioned yogurt--look for
active cultures. Canned pumpkin, metimuscil (unflavored) and psyllium
have helped my guys and girls, both those who have left and the
kittens who are
Oh my, get new vets. Dixie was on interferon and lots of supplements
(mostly from a holistic vet). Her quality of life for three years was
marvelous. I wish mine was as high. She ate very high quality food +
chopped veggies high in C iron etc. Please remember that everyone
It had an opiate in it.
On Apr 5, 2009, at 12:52 PM, Gloria B. Lane wrote:
Right, I remember mentions of it in my childhood... never took it
On Apr 5, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Lorrie wrote:
I used to use paragoric for myself for diarrhea but that was
years ago. I didn't think
Can you give him snacks in between feeding...perhaps when you are
having alone time with him? Id suggest tidbits like crockpot chicken
(a favorite of Copper and Thomas) or perhaps some hamburger. They
have to have animal fat.
On Apr 7, 2009, at 9:12 AM, Amy Ackerman wrote:
It's been a
Perhaps a vet who uses laser for spaying or something similar
On Apr 9, 2009, at 3:45 PM, Laurieskatz wrote:
Some vets will spay a cat in heat. Greater risk of bleeding is what
been told. Those who will spay said it's not a risk, just that some
don't want to deal with a
The obvious: Vitamin C + other high quality food and appropriate
vitamin supplements (Dixie got carrots, spinach, broccoli etc chopped
up in her food and loved it). If you have a holistic vet available,
please contact him/her. Dr. Boswell helped Dixie have a wonderful
three years. Most
Ask your mother if she would like to be put down under the
circumstances. Don't let her get you down.
You did wonderfully. No matter how it turns out, Charlotte is a very
lucky cat and she knows it.
On Apr 19, 2009, at 9:02 AM, Laura Mostello wrote:
I brought Charlotte back to the vet
He left this world loved. I am so sorry but remember that he loves
you and remains close, just in another form.
On Apr 20, 2009, at 7:47 PM, Sherry DeHaan wrote:
I know I have asked for prayers for this wonderful soul lately.Well
today he lost his battle to this aweful disease.Pooty Poots
I know there is concern but Dixie thrived on Primal Raw mixed with
finely chopped veggies..before the concerns appeared. Frankly,
even with the concerns, I would feed her a raw diet if she was with me
now. My beautiful little lady
On Apr 22, 2009, at 7:05 PM, Kelley
I cooked for Mai Mai and Dixie using a similar system. However, I
froze the food in muffin pans, popped them out and bagged them. This
gave me a day's meals or a serving at a time. I watch the chickens as
they get near the sale by date. Frequently stores will mark them down
Houdini left this world in a place that was safe for hernext to
her person. That is so much better than leaving at the vet's. I know
the awful feeling of having one leave so suddenly. Dixie Louise was
on the way home from the vets' when she left this world. We hadn't
been gone 10
Suggestion for the future: Contact the adopter's vet before the cat
is released re not killing an innocent cat and see if the vet will
agree to contact you if there is a problem (then hope they do).
Additionally have the adopter sign a mini contract. Sometimes that
alone makes them
Bless you for honoring your babies this way. When my guys leave this
world their meds go to their vets who maintain Good Samaritan boxes
and know their clients well enough to know who needs what. Other
items are re-homed too. This time, when Dixie left, she sent me two
If you need Pet Tinic long term you may be able to order it on
amazon.com cheaper. I bought a large quantity for some ferals a few
months ago. I can't recall the price but it was very good. Good luck.
On May 5, 2009, at 2:46 PM, CATHERINE DIDONNA wrote:
hi, sorry it took so long to
I am so sorry but I am glad you were blessed to spend that last time
with her. The calm you felt is Charlotte's parting gift of peace.
On May 6, 2009, at 2:10 PM, Susan Ang wrote:
I'm so sorry for your loss of beautiful Charlotte. My thoughts are
you. :-( Sleep Sweet, Baby
I have not reached that point with Copper and Thomas yet (they are
FeLV-) but I will not do a lot of vaccines. The ones they got as
kittens were spread out instead of being lumped in one or two visits.
No animal of mine who is immune system compromised will be vaccinated
wouldn't even do that, but I don't want to chance her biting someone
On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 6:02 PM, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-
I have not reached that point with Copper and Thomas yet (they are
but I will not do a lot
I lost my wonderful Dixie Louise Doodle Katt after 3 years. She came
out of a pine thicket (country equivalent of street). She was full
grown and, until a few days before she left, I thought she had beaten
it. There were short/little problems but nothing that couldn't happen
Some folks, including my holistic vets, recommend pumpkin (pure, not
the pie kind) or psyllium for diarrhea. Lots of probiotics too.
On May 14, 2009, at 1:58 PM, Carol Tsai Begnoche wrote:
Hi all. I have been following this group reguarly since two of my
diagnosed with FeLV in
I am so sorry. Losing any of them is awful. Anemia claimed Dixie
Louise. It is so awful and so fastI, too, pray Mattie will be
with you a long time and that she will fill in for CJ...they do seem
to understand the needs and sadness of their people.
Blessings to you for caring
You do all you can. Lots of ferals show up at Mom's. One, an awful
looking little guy whose eyes ran, nose ran etc. showed up. He
continued to hang out, finally finding a way to get along with the
resident ferals which is the primary requirement for food, water and
shelter with this
One day, when you are ready, Pixie will send you someone who needs
you. That someone may be a feral, a FeLV+, an old cat that no one
wants any more but it will be the right one for you. And it may come
before you think you are ready but, rest assured, it will be the right
one at the
Blessings to all of the little ones and to those who care for them.
The little ones are lucky to be loved and the people who care for them
are lucky to have the little ones and to have the strength and ability
to love them and provide for them. It is so difficult. Prayers and
Dixie left suddenly. Anemia. She seemed fine until a day before she
left this world.
On Jun 2, 2009, at 8:23 AM, Susan Finkelstein wrote:
My FeLV+ 5-year-old (or so) kitty died suddenly over the weekend and
I was wondering if anyone has had any similar experiences or heard
of any with
She stumbled the day before she died so I made a call to Middletown
Animal Clinic in Louisville, KY (her regular vets) and we made a Code
3 run from my farm (120 miles). Her vet waited for us; we tried lots
of things and I took her to her holistic vet, put her in an O2 tent
etc. She just
you for mentioning it. What
is an 02 Tent?
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan
Sent: Tuesday, June 02, 2009 9:36 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Sudden passing?
Another thought: Compare the A/D ingredients and purpose with some of
the better OTC foods. A/D has been such a standby that other foods
are often ignored. This is a judgment call.
On Jun 18, 2009, at 7:13 AM, Debbie Harrison wrote:
Same here in Florida...but you can't just buy it at
Some random ideas that have worked for me. Keep trying with the food,
especially fried chicken. Spray Feliway on yourself especially the
legs of your pants and hands (where the kitten will smell). Depending
on age try to grab him by the scruff of his neck (like a mother cat).
I would. Otherwise, you will always wonder and doubt yourself.
On Jun 19, 2009, at 5:53 PM, Amy wrote:
Wow! Maybe I should just do the blood test and rule it out. I'll
join the group and learn more.
Hi. When first diagnosed Frankie did
not have other symptoms and the
I use 18 gallon rubbermaid (or knock-off) totes. Depending on age and
condition, your cat may be able to jump in to the tote. This works
for Copper and Thomas and worked for Dixie. I started this with Ebony
who was getting a little older and had touble getting down. The
urine hit the
They make a pad to put under nursing home/hospital patiences that is
washable. I used some several years ago with a dog who was in the
process of leaving this world. Another thought is the odor of the
litter. None of my cats have ever accepted frangranced litter (they
have all been
On Jun 29, 2009, at 8:38 AM, Heather wrote:
Ditto, I do a ton of work with ferals and best to trap the kitty
work with if there are hopes of socializing. Sure you can make
over time but the feral kitten mortality rate is very high so best
in and will also
While everyone is talking about totes: They make nice shelters for
cats, especially if they are insulated and filled with pine needles
(Mom's ferals and four of my cats all came from a pine thicket) or
On Jun 29, 2009, at 9:19 AM, Sharyl wrote:
Wendy, since Pepper is healthy I
Cats are frequently killed in garbage trucks. They jump into
dumpsters to get food then either can't get out or are asleep when the
truck empties the dumpster. And people, being ever so humane, throw
kittens into them. There have been people killed in the same way.
I am so glad you have
I strongly suggest that you get some Feliway spray (maybe from your
vet??) I have had wonderful luck with itincluding with a full
grown cat who had been through lots of traumas and was forced, very
much against her will, to live with me (Daddy's death, charges in the
house [ furniture
You feed them and do everything you can to make their lives easier and
to let them know they are loved. I know, you will probably never
touch them, much less hold them but you do all you can do and worry
and cry then comfort yourself by thinking how much better you have
made their lives.
Be careful of the snake and cats. If he is big enough, he could cause
a lot of harm.
The garage sounds wonderful. Copper and Thomas Cougar and Dixie
before them loved my attached garage. The boys are constantly asking
for patrol time there and, when they have their way (which is most of
Peace to you. A suggestion since you are learning to heal: Start a
chronicle of your little one(s). Write in it daily. I've done that
with Copper and Thomas and frequently look back at the notes. Every
time I do, I laugh and love these little guys even more. I sent
emails to some
My holistic vet prescribed various meds to reduce stress including
Rescue Remedy and Feliway. Perhaps yours has some ideas along those
On Aug 4, 2009, at 9:08 AM, Lisa Borden wrote:
I just wanted to tell you how much I can relate to your dilemma.
Last year, I brought
You may have her a lot longer than you think. Dixie stayed with me 3
years and there are others who have had pos cats a lot longer than
that. Keep her as stress free and as well fed as you can and she may
reward you with many, many years.I pray so. Bless you for making
Both the Royal Princess Kitty Katt and Dixie Louise Doodle Katt, JP
left this world on their own. If I ever have the opportunity to let
one leave this way I will. I will not let one suffer but I will (try)
not to impose my own pian on their bodies. Put yourself in the little
Have you looked at colostrum
On Aug 11, 2009, at 6:11 PM, Lora wrote:
Thanks for your reply. You are the only one who did. I sincerely
I realize that some cats are more difficult to pill that others.
Thank God I have conditioned my kids to take their meds.
:19 PM, Lora wrote:
As in first milk or immune milk?
What has that got to do with anything?
--- On Tue, 8/11/09, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote:
Have you looked at colostrum?
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If you have access to a holistic vet, check in with her/him. Mine,
Betty Boswell, kept Dixie Louise healthy and happy. Betty works well
with my regular vets who are wonderful too. The combination worked
miracles for three absolutely wonderful years then something through
This is concerning your safety and not the well-being of your
wonderful cat who is having an awful time:
Be very careful about those bites. Perhaps you can get some heavy
leather gloves? I had a feral that I was taking to be spayed bite my
little finger. She broke it and I had to have
You will receive wonderful advise from this boardmuch better than
I can give you. My story is that a wonderful throw-away showed up at
Mom's. Due to some problems (read two dead cats at two different
vets) in a very short time, I took the little girl to my personal vets
Try Rescue Remedy in Spicey's water and the water of your other cats.
Also add Willow (another Bach Remedy) and Feliway spray. I've tried
the room atomizer but don't care for it. I have had wonderful luck
with the Feliway spray and so have my vets.
Don't press Spicey. The Royal
Another thought: Watch Spicey's teeth and gums. Not right now
obviously but when things settle down. Yes, you can get a cat used to
having its mouth opened. Good dental practices are important. Dixie
had stomatitis and we treated it with Petzlife Brush Away (put a
little in the cat's
Bless you for loving these little ones.
On Nov 12, 2009, at 9:44 PM, Sherry DeHaan wrote:
MY heart is very heavy tonight.We lost two of the most sweet loving
Demetri,he was on of my special boys from the day he arrived at Sids
3 1/2 years ago.He was so shy and would hide behind the
If home made isn't an option, there are several commercial raw foods
including Primal Raw that Dixie loved mixed with veggies and my boys
love plain. This is a frozen diet, in cubes that are so easy. There
are dried raw diets available too. A Google search should turn them
up as should
Have you thought about making her some chicken soup? Needless to say,
nothing canned but a few pieces of chicken stewed/crockpoted (my
favorite for Copper and Thomas) with maybe a little extra salt to make
On Nov 15, 2009, at 6:33 PM, TANYA NOE wrote:
He may have considered you jerks...or at least people to be put in
their place...serving him...but I suspect he loved you in his own way.
Blessings to you for caring for him even with his difficult personality.
On Nov 18, 2009, at 1:17 PM, Amy Ackerman wrote:
I haven't posted much since
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