Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 13, Issue 24

2009-07-29 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Amy, Have you tried asking on the holisticat.com infectious diseases community forum? Kathy Message: 1 Date: Tue, 28 Jul 2009 06:06:45 -0700 (PDT) From: Amy awilkin...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] Weight loss To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Message-ID:

Re: [Felvtalk] lizardmarsh.net

2011-09-27 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Hi Crystal, You've already given him the ELISA done in the lab (not the SNAP, which is done at the vet's)? It's hard to tell from what you wrote. A negative lab ELISA would prove Felv negative. Note that a negative IFA would not prove anything, as it's skewed towards false negatives.

Re: [Felvtalk] [FelineLeukemia] Fwd: Los Angeles, CA -- UPDATE: Chipin! Possible Felv+ kitty with bad eye growing every day needs foster/adopter by January 4th [1 Attachment]

2012-01-04 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
for such kitties? The cat must not be in a lot of pain, as none of the vets so far (a total of 3) have given her pain meds. Much thanks for your prompt input, Kathy -- Forwarded message -- From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com Date: Tue, Jan 3, 2012 at 8:31 PM Subject: Los

Re: [Felvtalk] News from Winn Foundation on Possible Treatment of FeLV

2012-01-04 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I wonder if Dr. Sam Chachoua would be able to help with Felv, as he has helped with other retroviruses---or at least their effects (that is, AIDS from HIV). On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 4:02 PM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: Just saw this article. Treatment for feline leukemia virus

Re: [Felvtalk] News from Winn Foundation on Possible Treatment of FeLV

2012-01-05 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Oh also, perhaps you've already discussed http://www.lukaska.com/portfolio/brochures/LTCI-product-brochure.pdf ? On Wed, Jan 4, 2012 at 7:51 PM, Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.comwrote: I wonder if Dr. Sam Chachoua would be able to help with Felv, as he has helped with other retroviruses

Re: [Felvtalk] Felv+ 15 year old will be euthanized Thursday.

2012-01-10 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Ask Karineh what three sanctuaries offered to take her Felv+ kitty. One had a fee of $200, which seems very doable via Chipin. On Tue, Jan 10, 2012 at 2:16 PM, kitty4...@juno.com kitty4...@juno.comwrote: PLEASE CROSSPOST TO YOUR GROUPS. DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY 'ROOM AT THE INN' FOR THIS CAT?

Re: [Felvtalk] Felv+ 15 year old

2012-01-11 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Where are you? Also, please CC the original folks involved. On Wed, Jan 11, 2012 at 12:35 PM, HIDEYO YAMAMOTO hideyo.yamam...@msn.comwrote: Will someone be willing to arrange transportation to out of state if we are to take her? -- From:

Re: [Felvtalk] Felv+ 15 year old will be euthanized Thursday.

2012-01-11 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
will be euthanized Thursday. ill take her..i'm in new york city *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* cdza...@gmail.com *Cc:* Karineh Grigorian petsalon...@yahoo.com; felineleuke...@yahoogroups.com; aa...@aol.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; kitty4...@juno.com kitty4

Re: [Felvtalk] Felv+ 15 year old will be euthanized Thursday.

2012-01-14 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
AM, Westninthst westnint...@yahoo.com wrote: Is the cat pulled? Sent via my Samsung Transform Ultra from Boost Mobile Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: There is a list of transporters on this FB page, as I wrote before: https://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id

Re: [Felvtalk] Anyone in or near California want a very sociable companion for their FeLV+ cat?

2012-01-15 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I'm not a huge fan of vaxes, but what about an intranasal vax or vaxing in the leg (which you can at least amputate if you have to)? On Sun, Jan 15, 2012 at 2:33 PM, Shanda Robertson sha...@well.com wrote: Thank you everyone for your replies. I had this set on digest so I didn't see them. I

Re: [Felvtalk] Firefly Please add to the CLS :(

2012-01-20 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Your love for her will outlast the stars. On Fri, Jan 20, 2012 at 6:26 PM, Sherry DeHaan sherryd...@yahoo.com wrote: Through tears I am writing this,Sids has lost another wonderful girl todayFirefly got her name by chasing fireflies jumping and trying to catch them before her rescuer got

Re: [Felvtalk] My heart is broken

2012-02-05 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Also, what tests were used? On Sun, Feb 5, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote: Is she showing any symptoms? It has ben a while since I had a FELV kitty. For now feed her the best you can. Treat any infections she may get as her immune system may not fight them off. Others

Re: [Felvtalk] ELISA IFA Tests:

2012-02-06 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
From what I know, there are four: In-house ELISA Lab ELISA Lab IFA PSA Is this correct? On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 4:28 AM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: First of all there are two commonly used types of FeLV tests. One is the in-office ELISA and the other is the laboratory run IFA

Re: [Felvtalk] ELISA IFA Tests:

2012-02-06 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I'm sorry: PCR. On Mon, Feb 6, 2012 at 7:11 PM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: I've never heard of a PSA. Is this new? L - Original Message - From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, February 06, 2012 5:43 PM

Re: [Felvtalk] Smokey

2012-02-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I was going to try out Dr. Sam Chachoua's serum when my cat died the day it was being shipped. You can watch his lecture and decide for yourself. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNoT8lb3aIs If yes, I can send you contacts. However, even if you could get a reduced fee through Dr. Sam's

Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Has anyone tried the suggestions on http://www.holisticat.com/crf.html ? Seems very treatable this way. Also, people in Los Angeles are gushing about Renavast: http://renavast.com On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:10 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Here it is: http://www.felinecrf.org/

Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
There are some who believe dry food causes CRF, so you may want to research more on this. Try the Holisticat.com site and Googling for other folks. On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 9:59 AM, Val Green harpestry...@aol.com wrote: Thanks, Natalie and all who responded. I've got Manny on prescription K/D

Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

2012-02-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
What kind of litter? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Eating litter is a classic sign of severe anemia. Most of my FeLV's died from anemia. At this point it's probably too late for interferon. That is a good preventative to boost the immune system, but it

Re: [Felvtalk] Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-08 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
foods and even the Fancy Feast Chicken and Tuna. I stayed around 230-240 in the phos level on these great charts: http://binkyspage.tripod.com/CanFoodNew.html Holly -Original Message- From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Tanya's CRF Site

2012-02-08 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
food…better that, than losing weight and dying. Natalie ** ** *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [ mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Kathryn Hargreaves *Sent:* Tuesday, February 07, 2012 9:10 PM *To:* felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] News about Ginger

2012-02-08 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
compost bin anb is lightweight and has the same texture as clay . It is not as dusty as clay also and the cats love it. Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: What kind of litter? On Tue, Feb 7, 2012 at 6:14 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Eating litter

Re: [Felvtalk] Blacki

2012-02-13 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Kevin, Try also: felineleuke...@yahoogroups.com, purringpixiecatresou...@yahoogroups.com, If you send a plea with a picture, I can forward it to national groups. On Mon, Feb 13, 2012 at 2:26 PM, kevin takac kjta...@wowway.com wrote: Hi all, I posted an email to the moderator several

Re: [Felvtalk] doubts on two FeLV positive kitties

2012-02-14 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Retest the Felv+s, as the combo tests can be false positives. On Tue, Feb 14, 2012 at 1:34 PM, czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote: Purrs Rubs from us to you and your beloveds on Valentine's Day. you've got us!! want to hear your thoughts please. adult spayed FIV +

Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind

2012-02-15 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
So sorry this happened to Dublin, but hopefully, he will regain at least some sight. I had two cats with severe stomatitis that my vet and I (with the help of some Holisticat.com advice) cured using just one course of Clavamox and then supplements. It takes some months, but they were cured.

Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind

2012-02-15 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I agree on the Ketamine. I always ask for gas, and for ferals to be boxed down. On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 11:22 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: *From:* Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:30 PM *Subject:*

Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

2012-02-15 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year? On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote: ** Hi Everyone I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV

Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
! From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv

Re: [Felvtalk] Oliver has an eye infection

2012-02-17 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
How about using Standard Process Feline Immune System Support (and Feline Whole Body Support) instead of Pet-Tinic, which has a lot of species-inappropriate things in it? On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 6:55 AM, Holly Shelton hsshel...@aol.com wrote: Hi everyone. I am an infrequent poster, except

Re: [Felvtalk] Oliver has an eye infection

2012-02-17 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Process products thanks to my holistic vet and my regular vet. On Feb 17, 2012, at 5:05 PM, Kathryn Hargreaves wrote: How about using Standard Process Feline Immune System Support (and Feline Whole Body Support) instead of Pet-Tinic, which has a lot of species-inappropriate things in it? On Fri

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: My Siggie

2012-02-17 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Dr. Deva Khalsa claims that tumors will come back at the incision site unless the animal's immune system has been strengthened enough to deal with the cancer.You might want to contact her. She does phone consults. On Fri, Feb 17, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Marcia Baronda

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 7, Issue 29

2012-02-19 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
While I did not have as good of an experience of Dr. Khalsa as have others, note that these blogs could be biased, too. Even allopathic doctors can be criticized by such, sometimes for purely for political/economic reasons. Often, you have to follow the money. I know of an animal who had

Re: [Felvtalk] Black salve

2012-02-19 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Thanks for clarifying that there are different forms out there. On Sun, Feb 19, 2012 at 1:37 PM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: I beg to differ; I have seen the results of this original formula. This is NOT the black salve that you read about; it's nothing like it. It's also not a lot of

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 8, Issue 28

2012-03-22 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Not quite the same format as Yahoo, but there are archives: http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/ http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/ On Wed, Mar 21, 2012 at 10:10 PM, Pamela Bell rescuethec...@yahoo.comwrote: Kitty with Jaundice The

Re: [Felvtalk] Bio-Sponge

2012-04-05 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Natalie and Beth, Did either of you try my holistic stomatitis protocol? It worked on both my cats, and the dental tech called it a miracle. Also, digestive enzymes and unspiced cooked pumpkin is what cured my long-term diarrhea kits. Hope this helps. On Thu, Apr 5, 2012 at 3:24 PM,

Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/Bartonaella link and treatment

2012-04-06 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
The Chinese Medicine theory my holistic vet had was that if abx helped (which they seemed to with my cats, and apparently with others'), then that was cooling the fire coming from the stomach. So, that's why the Coptis Purge Fire helped, after initially getting the heat coming from the stomach

Re: [Felvtalk] NYC: pathetic maybe-FeLV needs foster/adopter

2012-04-11 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
If you search for No Kill in Facebook, you'll get a lot of organizations, both (inter)national, by state, and by town. In particular, look at: http://www.facebook.com/pages/No-Kill-Coalition-Crossposting/220666988020410 You can also search for Crossposter and get a lot of other pages for

Re: [Felvtalk] NYC: pathetic maybe-FeLV needs foster/adopter

2012-04-11 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Go for it! ;-) You probably need to include transport and fostering in your system. Fostering is super important in getting animals out of the pounds. If anyone has any suggestions for how an iPhone app to get fosters should function, let me know! On Wed, Apr 11, 2012 at 2:57 AM, Terri

Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list again

2012-04-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Got it. On Mon, Apr 16, 2012 at 6:43 PM, James G Wilson phaed...@charter.netwrote: Hey all, Let me know if you get this message. I think there are still some problems with the list. Haven't received any mail since the host said they fixed the problem. Sorry for the inconvenience. Best.

Re: [Felvtalk] What could it be?

2012-04-29 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
There's no tests for FIP, but you can try nosodes, or calling Dr. Deva Khalsa (purportedly a vet who can cure FIP). Try joining WholeCatHealth for more information. They've been discussing the Winn Foundation FIP studies. On Sun, Apr 29, 2012 at 5:54 AM, Lynda Wilson

Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply/reply

2012-05-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
The raccoons near one of my colonies climb the 3-story-high palm tree there, to live in it, so yes, they can climb. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 3:44 AM, dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi - That's an idea. I'm waiting to see if the coon returns. I just restarted the dry food after two

[Felvtalk] Fwd: Cat shelters

2012-06-03 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I trimmed this so maybe it will go through. . . -- Forwarded message -- From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com Date: Sun, Jun 3, 2012 at 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Cat shelters To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org One approach you can take with the bosses (usually

Re: [Felvtalk] RenAvast for cats

2012-06-03 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Also check out this page: http://www.holisticat.com/flutd.html Renavast is supplements (amino acids, mostly), not a drug, so if you're going the natural way, you may as well check out the above. People around here (Los Angeles) have had really good results. One of my vets endorses it. The

Re: [Felvtalk] RenAvast for cats

2012-06-03 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
You get it via mail from Torrance, CA. http://www.renavast.com/order-now It costs around 50 cents/cap and comes in 60 capsule bottles. Are you free feeding the ferals (outside?)? When I consulted with someone about giving it to my colonies (because people feed them kibble and some are getting

Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Cat shelters

2012-06-03 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
in compliance. I think that ignorance is our worst enemy. Even when we get good ordinances, they don't work because no one knows about them. -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Sunday, June 3, 2012 5:28

Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Cat shelters

2012-06-03 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
to purchase the permit. Nasty little tricks. People who have received a citation in the past for having over the permissible limit of cats/dogs are prohibited from purchasing the permit. More nonsense. From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] Section 1983

2012-06-05 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
~ -- Forwarded message -- From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Date: Sun, 3 Jun 2012 18:21:00 -0800 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Cat shelters What do you mean by ``rules''? Laws? If they are not in compliance with laws, then turn them

Re: [Felvtalk] Section 1983

2012-06-30 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
is really easy to forget, actually, but really wonderful to be able to use for all being a FEDERAL STATUTE, and there are a lot of rescuers in here. ~Kat~ -- Forwarded message -- From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Date

Re: [Felvtalk] off topic - - removing kitten's eye

2012-07-24 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Lorrie, Does it work to give your Herpes kitty more Lysine per day? It did with mine. Kathy On Tue, Jul 24, 2012 at 3:22 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: Briefly I chose to foster 3 kittens with significant conjunctivitis from the local pound about 2 weeks and 2 days ago.

Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

2012-08-21 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Actually, the good news is that the first two years are purportedly analogous to our becoming adults, e.g., ~24, so they lived the best years of their lives. Fun calculator here: http://www.purina.co.uk/content/your-cat/understanding-your-cat/as-your-cat-ages/your-cat%27s-age-in-human-years On

Re: [Felvtalk] Sick FeLV+ Kitten

2012-08-23 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Lee, would you like me to send you my holistic stomatitis protocol? It worked on both my cats (not Felv+, though), one of which had it so bad that blood spurted out his mouth whenever he opened it. On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 11:05 AM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: A false negative is

Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis

2012-08-23 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Holistic Stomatitis Protocol Note that holistic approaches take longer than do allopathic ones. These the supplements we've been using, but it doesn't mean some aren't optional. What seemed to turn things around was one course of antibiotics along with Coptis Purge Fire. You may have to

Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis

2012-08-23 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
to use on cats who would allow me to do this!* *Natalie =^..^=* * * *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Kathryn Hargreaves *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:46 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis

2012-08-24 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
] *On Behalf Of *Kathryn Hargreaves *Sent:* Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:46 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis Holistic Stomatitis Protocol Note that holistic approaches take longer than do allopathic ones. These the supplements we've been using

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis

2012-08-24 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Were you doing steroids all through this process? On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.comwrote: Snowy had three separate procedures -- the first to extract teeth, then when that did not solve the problem she had the first laser treatment, and then she went back

Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself, using balanced recipes online (I can send you links and my own recipe, if you like). I buy at Whole Foods, so I'm paying about twice what you could otherwise---and I'm still only paying about half the amount of the best

Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply

2012-08-29 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
[mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:10 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] outdoor cats plight/free food?/reply The cheapest yet healthiest food I've found is raw that I mix up myself

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV Ascites?

2012-08-29 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Isn't it impossible to diagnose FIP? On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 9:54 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: Oh, no – poor baby! I am so sorry! The vet couldn’t think of trying anything else? I also found that when they don’t respond to antibiotics, toxoplasmosis may be present, and it

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-30 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
See http://holisticat.com/flutd.html That site also has diet recipes, or you could write me for mine (which is a chicken version much like found on other sites). Keep track of the urine pH (using a SmartCat litterbox?). I found that Vitamin C didn't help much getting the acidity up, but

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-30 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
and capsules of cranberry extract for this type of situation. Not sure cats and cranberries would get along very well but you might google that also. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Kathryn

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Not only are corn, wheat, and soy not cat food (they can't digest veggies very well, much less grains, which can give them diabetes and IBD), but unless the corn and soy are organic, they are most likely GMO, and soy can give cats Hyperthyroidism (I learned this the hard way on a 7-month-old who

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
a vegetarian, they don't get leftovers like hamburger and chicken. So they eat my corn and tofu. Weird world. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
! -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2012 1:11 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition Not only are corn, wheat, and soy not cat food (they can't digest veggies very well, much less

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Friday, August 31, 2012 1:11 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition Not only are corn, wheat

Re: [Felvtalk] Science Diet

2012-08-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Check out Dr. Deva Khalsa, author of The Natural Dog. I don't recommend her for homeopathics, but she is very up on research and does telephone consultations. On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 2:23 PM, longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: :( my other dachshund is on Royal Canine Hepatic for her micro

Re: [Felvtalk] Science Diet

2012-08-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Yes, I use baby food (without onions and garlic, of course). Not the best, but it goes through a syringe! On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 3:25 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: People always believe that if something is expensive, it MUSDT be good! Well, it's the exact opposite. The only one

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Nutro is pretty awful stuff, too. The best canned food out there is Merrick Before Grain, and even that has carageenan in it. You may also have to add some pumpkin/veggies (5%). It's unknown if it's balanced in terms of Phos:Ca, as the company isn't very forthcoming. On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-31 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Of what did the big kitty die? I've heard of cats living beyond 30 years, and often wonder if we fed them correctly that they wouldn't routinely live to at least somewhere between 20 and 30 years. Some people think cats just have weak kidneys, but if they did, their species wouldn't have

Re: [Felvtalk] Science Diet

2012-09-02 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Purportedly egg yolk lethicin dissolves hairballs, but I've not tried it. On Sun, Sep 2, 2012 at 1:40 AM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: My guys are not too crazy about Royal Canindry or canned SD. They do like Royal Cannin Extreme Hairball dry. I don't feed it as food, but as a treat. It

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-02 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Yes, I've heard from wildlife experts that the population of all species will level off at the carrying capacity (food, shelter) of the habitat, despite predation (of any sort). This is why if you want to reduce a species' population, you have to sterilize and return, so the sterilized ones take

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Bow hunting

2012-10-03 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
...@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Kathryn Hargreaves *Sent:* Tuesday, October 02, 2012 10:12 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting ** ** Yes, I've heard from wildlife experts that the population of all species

Re: [Felvtalk] Declaw

2012-10-04 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Also: http://www.*pawproject*.*org*/ http://www.pawproject.org/ Technically, it's like getting your fingers cut off at the first knuckle, except that all that cats have for fingers are their claws. So it's really like having all your entire fingers (and thumbs) cut off, so you can't pick up

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Bow hunting

2012-10-04 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
...@felineleukemia.orgfelvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Kathryn Hargreaves *Sent:* Wednesday, October 03, 2012 3:32 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Bow hunting ** ** Does this happen with all species? ** ** I think the best thing to do

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Bow hunting

2012-10-04 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
The Jains eat only things that fall from the plants, so the plants don't get killed. After I read this, I quit eating root veggies. On the other hand, they do not believe in keeping pets, much along the lines of PeTA, except they don't kill them. Have you seen this book? It may be a key to

Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I'm not a big fan of spot-on flea meds, either, as it only makes scientific sense that some will survive and be resistant to the poison (as with bacteria and abx). I've only had to use them (Advantage, which my vet said is the safest for cats, but your mileage may vary) once when we had a flea

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Advantage is safer than is Revolution for cats, or so my then-vet said. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 7:51 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I GOT rEVOLUTION ONCE AND IT CAUSED THEM TO LOOSE THEIR HAIR AT THE APPLICATION POINT. THEN THE HAIR CAME BACK IN SNOW WHITE. NOT TOO FOUND OF THAT. VET

Re: [Felvtalk] SuzieQ (was President)

2012-10-05 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Either try a serum from Dr. Chachoua or give pain meds, if they would help. Is it in her lungs? If fluid is building up around them from the cancer, then have them tapped often enough so she is not in respiratory distress. Cats really do not handle that well. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 9:14 AM,

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2012-10-06 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I wonder if you should try to get a tubal ligation instead, as a recent study indicates that longevity is tied to keeping the ovaries: http://www.gpmcf.org/respectovaries.html I'd avoid the vaxes, as the immune system is already wonked. On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 5:40 AM, Maryam Ulomi

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2012-10-06 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Can you get a titer instead of vaxing for rabies each (three) year(s) or does your law not allow that? Also, I'm sure you know that 1-year and 3-year rabies vax are the same contents with different labels. And that experiments have shown the rabies vax lasts at least 7 years, if not for life.

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Just note that with cats, who lack the liver enzyme to process toxins the way humans and doggies can, the toxic buildup is over time. On Sat, Oct 6, 2012 at 5:23 PM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: I've been using Revolution on my 13 house rescues for a yr now with no problems. Age ranges

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2012-10-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
it as sufficient. The vets make money on the vaccinations every year. Why should they stop a good cash cow (or cat)? Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2012-10-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
. On 10-06, Kathryn Hargreaves wrote: Also, I'm sure you know that 1-year and 3-year rabies vax are the same contents with different labels. Â And that experiments have shown the rabies vax lasts at least 7 years, if not for life

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2012-10-07 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
You can also just vax for Panleuk only. On Sun, Oct 7, 2012 at 5:48 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: Mine were not symptomatic at the time they got the FVRCP. They became symptomatic immediately afterward. If there is a huge risk of getting panleukopenis (sp?) You might want to take

Re: [Felvtalk] Hartz

2012-10-08 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Too bad their FB page doesn't allow comments. On Mon, Oct 8, 2012 at 5:11 AM, Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.comwrote: I know this sounds minor, but their cat litter ( I bought it in my small town because I'm 30 miles from a Walmart, and was in desperate need), anyway, their cat litter

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-11 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I'm curious as to how much you are spending per day per cat feeding dry. I am able to feed raw for 70 cents/day per cat. If you didn't buy the chicken from Whole Foods, which charges about twice as much as do, say local ethnic butchers, then you could roll in for around half that. I've heard

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-12 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
will probably have to keep buying the Kirkland and just work harder. Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Thursday, October 11

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-12 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Remember, rabbits don't produce Taurine the way cats don't, so if you feed rabbits again, add Taurine. Cats died in studies where they were only fed rabbit. I have forgotten to get meat out of the freezer, but put it in a plastic bag and float it in cold water. That defrosts it really

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-12 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
They do eat by-products when they eat the whole prey, but they are getting all the rest, too, which they don't get with just by-products (where the good stuff has been taken out for human consumption). By-products contain much less nutrition and are often indigestible. Note that cats also get

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-12 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Yes, searing the raw meat is a good way to get the smell factor up. I had one cat that took six months to get off kibble and onto raw. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.comwrote: I tried raw with my 15 year old calico a few years ago. She wouldn't touch

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Mailing list

2012-10-12 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Islay, you can do that yourself. Click on the second link below and it will take you to the page where you can manage your subscription. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 11:53 AM, Islay Mulcahy saarahstem...@gmail.comwrote: Please remove my name and address from your mailing list. Thank you. --

Re: [Felvtalk] Ta ta for now

2012-10-12 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
They're still selling the from-China chicken breast doggie treats that killed/sickened lots of animals, only because the FDA can't figure out what's wrong with them. On Fri, Oct 12, 2012 at 1:32 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: Thanks, just spread the word on it, post on FB, etc. – I did.

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-13 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Actually, a lot of ferals live on/supplement with insects. We don't have water bugs inside here, but I've seen them around, so the cats must be eating them.(BTW, just read that insects are the healthiest meat humans can eat, as they are low-fat and animal fat is hard on humans.) On Sat,

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-13 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
! -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Friday, October 12, 2012 4:36 PM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food They do eat by-products when they eat the whole prey, but they are getting all the rest, too, which they don't get

Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-13 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I spend half again that much.However, it's not a numbers game, it's what you can handle. I know of someone who has 40 colonies in three cities. She gets up at 2:30 a.m. each morning to do half each day, and then goes to work full time. (BTW, she spends $1000/month on mostly kibble.) Do

[Felvtalk] Fwd: The Price of Cat Food

2012-10-13 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Sending again. Gmail makes it difficult to trim posts, as it doesn't show everything. -- Forwarded message -- From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com Date: Sat, Oct 13, 2012 at 9:07 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] The Price of Cat Food To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic, of interest to many: Webcast: Fixing the Feline Housing Crisis (how sheltertsd canb make cats sick!!!)

2012-10-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
They make these available afterwards as videos: http://www.maddiesfund.org/Resource_Library/Maddies_Video_Library/Shelter_Medicine_Videos.html On Mon, Oct 15, 2012 at 3:57 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: Will they ahve something in print for those of us who cannot go to this? Would like to

Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

2012-10-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
What pound was this? That's one of the only good things about the pounds around here is that they don't test for FIV/Felv, so then they don't kill for it. Of course, I think they should test, and still not kill for it. These are the open-admission No Kill (saving 90%+) shelters in the U.S.:

Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

2012-10-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
by the local municipality. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Cc:* Alev Durmus alev_dur...@yahoo.com *Sent:* Tuesday, October 16, 2012 12:19 PM

Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

2012-10-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
shelter killing FeLV+ cat According to her email it wasn't a pound, it was a so-called no-kill shelter. Pounds are usually owned by the local municipality. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ -- *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves

Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

2012-10-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Yes, and some have even gone so far as to define ``adoptable'' as those for which they have cages! Outta space, outta luck. As Christine probably knows, there are over 200 cities/towns that are now No Kill. As for No Kill places being hard to find, at least someone is looking for them. In

Re: [Felvtalk] No-kill animal shelter killing FeLV+ cat

2012-10-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Los Angeles. Neither the city not the county pounds test. On Tue, Oct 16, 2012 at 9:11 AM, CATHERINE DIDONNA westnint...@yahoo.comwrote: around here doesn't say where you are?? *From:* Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Tuesday

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