Moses tested FeLv+ and FeLv- I'm confused!

2006-11-14 Thread Lee Evans
We recently rescued a tame "feral" cat from an apartment complex where peoplemove out and leave their cats to fend for themselves. I named him Moses. Since he comes from an area where all the feral cats tested negative on their combo test, I wasn't very worried. I took him in for his free

Re: Moses tested FeLv+ and FeLv- I'm confused!

2006-11-14 Thread Lee Evans
will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: Lee Evans To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:40 PM Subject: Moses tested FeLv+ and FeLv- I'm confused! We

Re: Moses tested FeLv+ and FeLv- I'm confused!

2006-11-14 Thread Lee Evans
. Francis - Original Message - From: Lee Evans To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, November 14, 2006 4:40 PM Subject: Moses tested FeLv+ and FeLv- I'm confused! We recently rescued a tame

Re: Moses tested FeLv+ and FeLv- I'm confused!

2006-11-14 Thread Lee Evans
Thatpost had most of the information that my friend Googled from the Bristol University Website and other UK websites. I guess the best thing would be to assume Moses is FeLv+ and try to find him a foster home without any cats or with a cat friendly dog, but not with any other cat unless his

Re: OT Help, I am so embarrassed

2006-11-15 Thread Lee Evans
Try an overnight soak in Petzyme (purchased at PetsMart) or some other enzyme product that you can use to soak your clothes. The mistake most people make with enzyme odor removal products is not keeping them wet long enough for the bacteria to work on the source of the odor. It would also

Re: Moses tested FeLv+ and FeLv- I'm confused!

2006-11-15 Thread Lee Evans
Well, I guess I have six of one and half a dozen of the other. About evenly divided for PCR being the best test ever and PCR being useless. Groan! - Original Message - From: Jennifer Phaewryn O'Gwynn To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 15, 2006 3:53 PM

Re: [Felvtalk] No vaxes?

2008-08-07 Thread Lee Evans
Not only do vets vaccinate cats who should not have anything else to stress their immune system and not only do they insist on vaccinating indoor-only cats, old cats and even ill cats, but they are now pushing the FIV vaccine which will turn the cat FIV+ so if he/she gets lost, picked up by

Re: [Felvtalk] No vaxes?

2008-08-07 Thread Lee Evans
the law, though they have approved the 3 year rabies vaccine now, thank goodness. On Thu, Aug 7, 2008 at 2:01 PM, Lee Evans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not only do vets vaccinate cats who should not have anything else to stress their immune system and not only do they insist on vaccinating indoor

[Felvtalk] Tests

2009-10-25 Thread Lee Evans
One of my rescues, Taco, tested positive for FIV and FeLv on the combo test.  I tested Taco with the IFA test.  He came up negative for FeLv.  I intend to do one more test.  Is there a third test that I can do that would reassure me that he is really FeLv negative (or positive)?  He has been

Re: [Felvtalk] Tests

2009-11-15 Thread Lee Evans
Wow! Am I ever behind on my email!   Doing another IFA test sounds like good advice if the PCR is so unreliable.  I'll probably go for that with Taco.    I'm dead set against the FIV vaccine.  Most so-called shelters will kill the cat before even asking questions. I have no doubt that if a cat

Re: [Felvtalk] Autumn the cat

2011-11-08 Thread Lee Evans
My two FeLv/FIV+ cats Taco and Smooch have passed over this year.  I was heartbroken.  But then I realized how wonderful it was that people like us give these deserving little cats all the life they can sustain and don't turn our backs on them because they were unlucky enough to have these

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question

2011-11-17 Thread Lee Evans
I would be very, very cautious about vaccinating a cat agaimst FeLv.  Several people I know had the miserable experience of their cat contracting leukemia after being vaccinated. I wouldn't swear that the vaccine was the source of the infection but these cats were not ever outside the house. 

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-04 Thread Lee Evans
So far, nothing that tragic has gone wrong in my own life, but I have had to move from my nice, safe brick house in the city to a mobile home which, as far as I can tell, is made out of cardboard and plastic.  These horrid death traps are usually gone with the wind if the wind is above 50 miles

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat in a house on fire

2011-12-04 Thread Lee Evans
Have you ever tried stuffing cats into pillow cases?  I have 15 cats in the mobile home.  I can't imagine stuffing 15 pillow cases with 15 cats and actually living to tell the story.  Good idea if you have less than 5 though.  Don't forget something to tie up the tops and just for safety,

Re: [Felvtalk] urine odors

2011-12-17 Thread Lee Evans
Unfortunately more than a few of my rescues think outside of the box or are cross-eyed or something when it comes to pooping.  Will the strong vinegar solution work on Eau de Poop, a really unpleasant combination when another cat comes along and douses the blob with a generous helping of

[Felvtalk] (no subject)

2012-02-05 Thread Lee Evans
    Sunday, February 5, 2012 3:44 PM My cat Moses tested positive for FeLv.  Since I have many other cats, I isolated him in a room in my house, retested three months later and he tested negative.  That was about 6 years ago.  He's still going strong and happy.   If Ginger is an only cat, just

[Felvtalk] Feline Leukemia, how contagious is it?

2012-02-05 Thread Lee Evans
There are cats who test positive who are not and cats who test negative who are not.  The tests in general are not very reliable.  However, I have had quite a lot of experience with cats who tested positive for FeLV.  Taco and Smooch were two who tested positive for both FeLv and FIV.  They

Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind

2012-02-15 Thread Lee Evans
From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 1:30 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind Ask the vet if he used Ketamine.  This is an injected anesthesia and many times

Re: [Felvtalk] Dublin woke up from surgery blind - UPDATE

2012-02-15 Thread Lee Evans
Excellent.  It still could be a reaction to the anesthesia, especially since he is FeLv+ but I have had several FeLv+ and FIV+ (both positive together in same cat) neutered and no problems with eyes.  Maybe it has to do with the stomatitis, bacteria going into body, causing a reaction.  Anyway,

Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

2012-02-15 Thread Lee Evans
There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona virus.  Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.  FIP is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's

[Felvtalk] Fw: FIP

2012-02-16 Thread Lee Evans
- Forwarded Message - From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 2:46 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP I didn't know there was a vaccine for FIP.  I know there's a vaccine for FIV which causes

Re: [Felvtalk] TNR

2012-03-08 Thread Lee Evans
TNR is a good way to guard against the spread of FIV since the way most cats spread this disease is through deep bites while fighting during mating season.  FIV is not easily spread through contact with other cats.  A mom cat who is FIV+ may pass it to her offspring but they may also throw it

Re: [Felvtalk] eye issues

2012-04-02 Thread Lee Evans
It happens with age a lot of the time. One of my older cats had spots in one eye. They neither increased or decreased once they had developed. I went to our local animal eye specialist. He said it wasn't an issue and did not have any effect on the cat's sight. From: Natalie

Re: [Felvtalk] Brando and Luna Please add to the CLS :( :(

2012-04-04 Thread Lee Evans
I'm so sorry for your loss.  Most of my FeLv cats lived approx. 2 years.  Most died of lymphoma.  I also had two FIV+-FeLv+ cats.  They also passed on from lymphoma.  I now have one husky, healthy black boy who is positive for FIV and FeLv.  I'm hoping that now that he has lived with me for a

Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/Bartonaella link and treatment

2012-04-06 Thread Lee Evans
I have had a couple of cats who were suspected of having Bartonella but the vet gave them doxycycline. It seemed to have cleared up the Bartonella.  I currently have one cat with stomatitis, not an FIV cat and another negative cat who seems to be getting stomatitis.  Romeo, who has it,  is on a

Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list again

2012-04-16 Thread Lee Evans
I'm on here too and got it. From: James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, April 16, 2012 9:43 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Testing the list again Hey all, Let me know if you get this message. I think there are still

Re: [Felvtalk] sick FLV+ kitty, worried owner

2012-04-21 Thread Lee Evans
As long as she is still eating, that's a good sign.  Has the vet given her Convenia?  That's a long-acting antibiotic that seems to keep the level of infection down until the cat's own immune system can cope.  You might try a pet vitamin with iron for the anemia.  I use Nutrived.  It has

Re: [Felvtalk] Giving sub-q fluids

2012-05-07 Thread Lee Evans
My vet used what looked like a horse needle on my skinny 5 pound cat. I said ouch when he stabbed the needle into the cat and it came out the other side of the fur. What an idiot. I asked him if he could use smaller needle. He said that the one he was using was regulation size. I can't

Re: [Felvtalk] Picked up Orlandos ashes today

2012-05-21 Thread Lee Evans
I'm so sorry for your loss. I lost a flame point Siamese two years ago. I had named him Taco even though he was rescued from a vacant lot outside a Pizza Hut Restaurant. I had him for about 2 years. Then he suddenly stopped eating. He was diagnosed with lymphoma. He hadn't wasted away and

Re: [Felvtalk] Wasting away

2012-05-22 Thread Lee Evans
Did you test to see if he has an overactive thyroid?  This can happen even to younger cats.  It may or may not be related to FeLv.  Please have a thyroid profile done before deciding on his fate.  Thyroid can be treated with medication.  There's even an ear ointment that absorbs through the

Re: [Felvtalk] Watch for this person In Wharton, El Campo, Richmond/Rosenberg, Sugar Land

2012-05-27 Thread Lee Evans
This is for Charles Adams: Unfortunately, you are beginning to learn by your mistake that breeding animals, whether cats, dogs, birds or any other species can be more costly than it's worth.  You state that you don't want a pet cat and never did. I am assuming that the Bengal you have is just

Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

2012-05-29 Thread Lee Evans
The jump up feeder wouldn't work because raccoons can climb just like cats.  Last year, when I was feeding a colony, two mama raccoons and a total of 12 puff balls began dining at my cat feeding station.  I got some donated dog food that they ate, I guess as an appetizer before they cleaned out

Re: [Felvtalk] Charles Adams - Breeding cats

2012-05-29 Thread Lee Evans
Charles, I don't agree with anyone who calls you a jerk or any other nasty name.  Most of us on this list are overworked and have constant shortages of funds. We tend to get impatient with people who are trying, for whatever reason, to bring more cats into the world. We rescue these FeLv+ cats

Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/reply

2012-05-31 Thread Lee Evans
and jump to the feeder.  But acc to info on line the raccoon can't jump up there.  Wondering about this.  Also wondering how the cats would jump in winter when there is snow and ice on top of that smaller house.  Dotty  From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com

Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

2012-05-31 Thread Lee Evans
I have an outside enclosure built around a fairly large wooden shed (the type you get at Home Depot or other undo-it-yourself places).  I also have the same wire fencing enclosing the porch of a small cottage type building (one large room, no plumbing) that the former owners used for crafts

Re: [Felvtalk] Check out An orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO]

2012-06-01 Thread Lee Evans
I think I just melted.  Absolutely adorable.  Guess he had to rescue the little rascal.  Not to say that I promote making pets of wildlife, but raccoons sometimes do get domesticated, especially when they are young.  And there's a ferret involved for company.  Nice man.  Doesn't mind the messy

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

2012-06-02 Thread Lee Evans
I can't find the email from someone who thinks that the cats are avoiding the food because the feeding dish/station smells from raccoon.  This is definitely NOT the cause of the cats avoiding the food.  It's probably the food.  It may be stale or they are just tired of the flavor.  When I was

Re: [Felvtalk] Check out An orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO]

2012-06-02 Thread Lee Evans
...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com Sent: Friday, June 1, 2012 11:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Check out An orphan baby raccoon. [VIDEO] I sent it on to a friend and her 2 grandsons and a couple of others.  This is adoreable

Re: [Felvtalk] Cat shelters

2012-06-03 Thread Lee Evans
Around 12 years ago, that was the method San Antonio's Animal Control facility used to kill cats and dogs.  They hooked a pick-up truck to an opening in the wall of a small room.  They filled the room with unwanted cats and dogs - all together, not even separating them by species, and turned on

Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Cat shelters

2012-06-03 Thread Lee Evans
The problem here is that I'm in Texas.  Killing is the State Sport. Unfortunately, most of the Animal Control Officers don't even know the new rules, which include acceptance of TNR as a way to control outside cats.  They are still terrorizing people who have a small batch of backyard cats who

Re: [Felvtalk] Fwd: Cat shelters

2012-06-03 Thread Lee Evans
, ageism and misogyny.  It's unfortunate that the brain is fast becoming a vestigial organ.  More soap from my soapbox.  From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, June 3

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION/REPLY

2012-06-03 Thread Lee Evans
is around but that never seemed to bother them in the past.  ???Dotty From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 2, 2012 1:18 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

Re: [Felvtalk] RACCOON GETTING INTO CAT STATION

2012-06-04 Thread Lee Evans
The added benefit of possums is that since they are marsupials, they are not carriers of rabies!  They are simply weird looking.  I saw my first possum about 10 years ago.  We mutually scared each other out of our skins.  Then we tip-toed back around the corner of the house and stared at each

Re: [Felvtalk] Foster mom devastated at a FELV positive test result

2012-06-13 Thread Lee Evans
I had one kitten flip from FIV+ to no FIV.  I had two adult cats flip from FeLv+ to no FeLv.  Especially in kittens, it's very possible that in two months, when re-tested, they will be negative.  As for your cats eating/drinking or being near the kittens, that shouldn't be an issue.  It's not

Re: [Felvtalk] Foster Mom with FELV kittens follow up

2012-06-27 Thread Lee Evans
Just had a FIV+/FeLv+ cat retested.  He had FIV but he tested negative for FeLv.  He's going into my FIV+ section, not because I think that FIV would be contagious to my regular cats but because he never lost his male fighting spirit so let him annoy the FIV's.  I do have three FIV+ cats mixed

Re: [Felvtalk] Section 1983

2012-06-30 Thread Lee Evans
After years in rescue, I'm so cynical that I truly believe if you did all the killing of cats and dogs on a large stage in a see-through dome, some people would view it as entertainment while the majority would hurry by, averting their eyes and telling themselves that it's just a movie, it

Re: [Felvtalk] Section 1983 and a bit OT

2012-07-01 Thread Lee Evans
I believe that everything on Earth has a Life Force.  Perhaps that's a soul but we are all from the same place, from the same Architect, whatever or whoever one calls that.  Therefore, I try not to eat anyone, kill anyone, displace anyone, pollute or dismantle anything unnecessarily unless my

Re: [Felvtalk] Off topic - Facebook perversion - cats; STOP them!

2012-07-01 Thread Lee Evans
This is the type of thing that happens in a society that values aluminum cans above the lives of animals.  We no longer want to toss aluminum cans into the landfill because they have some value.  Not so cats and dogs.  Every day millions are killed and tossed into landfills.  Actually, I see

Re: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas

2012-07-18 Thread Lee Evans
I would be very surprised if fleas could transmit FeLv.  If that were true, most of my cats would have it.  I have had lots of experience with leukemia cats.  My last two were living in a room separate from the regular group of negative cats but the room was adjacent to the negative group and

Re: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas

2012-07-18 Thread Lee Evans
It's not a certainty that the kittens would be positive for FeLv if the mom was. You need to test each kitten separately when they are about 12 weeks old.  Even if they test positive, don't have them killed.  FeLv can sometimes be overcome in kittens and in cats.  I have a cat who was positive

Re: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas

2012-07-18 Thread Lee Evans
...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:51 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas   It's not a certainty that the kittens would be positive for FeLv if the mom was. You need to test each

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Transmittal via fleas

2012-07-18 Thread Lee Evans
...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 7:14 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas   Some kittens born to FeLv+ mothers do turn negative but it's more likely that an adult who

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FIV FeLV kittens

2012-07-19 Thread Lee Evans
Long time ago, before I ever knew about testing or spay/neuter a mom cat and pop cat came into my yard.  Mom was pregnant and pop hung around.  They were actually mated to each other.  She had a litter of 6.  Out of that litter, only two survived.  The others had what I now know were typical

Re: [Felvtalk] Felvtalk Digest, Vol 12, Issue 9

2012-07-19 Thread Lee Evans
, for fear of losing her. But she has beat the odds so far, and I hope she continues to be healthy and happy and playful, like she is now, for a long time to come. Kat   From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Wednesday

Re: [Felvtalk] correction: jumping to top of another cage 2.5' away sorry

2012-07-23 Thread Lee Evans
If there is an animal ophthalmologist in your area please take the kitten to her/him for a second opinion.  A corneal ulcer can usually be treated with antibiotic eye drops.  I have had several cats with mild to severe corneal ulcers.  The worst that happens is that the ulcer turns into a small

Re: [Felvtalk] Testing the list... too quiet

2012-08-15 Thread Lee Evans
I'm here also with just one young cat who needs retesting.  She's getting fatter and fluffier by the minute, thank the Great Cat.   Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com To:

Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

2012-08-21 Thread Lee Evans
Hang in there Lorrie.  Sometimes they turn.  Did you ever find the mom cat?  If so, have her tested too.  If she's young, she may turn negative in 90 days also.  The ones a year or younger sometimes do.  Even older cats can fight it off.  I have a cat who was positive when rescued.  He was

Re: [Felvtalk] FelV positive kittens

2012-08-22 Thread Lee Evans
They are so ignorant because they went to veterinary medical school and they never looked outside the book, at the actual animal.  Buttercup, a lovely Turkish Van mix came to me deathly ill and pregnant.  She was probably dumped when some people in the neighborhood moved.  A week after she

Re: [Felvtalk] Sick FeLV+ Kitten

2012-08-22 Thread Lee Evans
Kaya should be treated like a kitten who got sick.  Kittens do this regularly and because their immune systems are not as fully developed as a cat's is, they tend to go downhill fast if not given extra food, meds, etc..  Do NOT put this cat on steroids.  It will compromise her immune system

Re: [Felvtalk] Sick FeLV+ Kitten

2012-08-22 Thread Lee Evans
seeing it, so I couldn't be more pleased to hear that's not the case. I'll definitely re-test Kaya, but I was also wondering, is there any chance the other kittens could've had a false neg? Like perhaps I tested them too soon after exposure? On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 1:57 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste

Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis

2012-08-23 Thread Lee Evans
I'm filing it in my Important Mail folder.  I think Romeo would kill me half way through the protocol though.  But I could try.   Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Natalie at...@optonline.net To:

Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/WHAT IS STOMATITIS? MY FELV CAT IS FINICKY

2012-08-24 Thread Lee Evans
Many of the cats I have had drooled after eating or slapped at the side of their mouth with their paw.  The gum on the side that has stomatitis is usually bright red, inflamed looking and the cat does not like his whisker pad or that side of his face touched.  In the beginning cases, they may

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-30 Thread Lee Evans
Would some type of cranberry extract help, maybe mixed with the recipe mentioned?  Holistic methods of UTI in humans uses cranberry juice, extract and capsules of cranberry extract for this type of situation.  Not sure cats and cranberries would get along very well but you might google that

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-30 Thread Lee Evans
I used Hills on and off for years and found that my cats threw up more often with it.  So I finally quit using.  Water fountains are great.  Not only do the cats drink.  They sit for hours watching the water go round and round.  Only problem was, two or three of my cats started urinating around

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-30 Thread Lee Evans
, Aug 30, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: Would some type of cranberry extract help, maybe mixed with the recipe mentioned?  Holistic methods of UTI in humans uses cranberry juice, extract and capsules of cranberry extract for this type of situation.  Not sure cats

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV+, Struvite Crystals, and Nutrition

2012-08-31 Thread Lee Evans
There's so much corn in cat food that when I opened a can of corn for myself recently, one of my cats ran over and began gobbling it.  Sheesh!  Since I'm a vegetarian, they don't get leftovers like hamburger and chicken.  So they eat my corn and tofu.  Weird world.   Spay and Neuter your cats

Re: [Felvtalk] Need advice for our cat Oliver

2012-09-08 Thread Lee Evans
I'm sorry you're going through this unhappy experience with Oliver.  First of all, I would just  like to mention that the FIV vaccine is always a bad idea.  It turns the cat positive on testing.  If the cat gets lost, picked up by someone who tests him and is not aware that FIV is NOT

Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten

2012-09-17 Thread Lee Evans
Could you trap the mother cat and have her tested, spayed, given rabies vaccination and put back in the colony if it's a colony or if a single cat, allow her to live where you found her and feed her?   If mom cat tests positive, kitten is probably fighting off the virus.  If mom cat tests

Re: [Felvtalk] Nutrition and new FeLV positive kitten

2012-09-17 Thread Lee Evans
If you think he might be lonely by himself, consider getting him a spayed female FeLv+ cat around his age to keep him company.  Cats are very sociable animals.   Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From:

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Transport to Best Friends

2012-09-17 Thread Lee Evans
I find that a product called At Ease or Feloway work very well when sprayed into the carrier about a half hour before you put the cat in.  Allow it the time to dry, never spray while cat is inside. It really calms them down.  I do this when transporting to the vet.  Makes a big difference

Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Transport to Best Friends

2012-09-18 Thread Lee Evans
-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Monday, September 17, 2012 7:24 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FELV Transport to Best Friends   I find that a product called At Ease or Feloway work very well when sprayed

Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Barnaby in your thoughts

2012-09-18 Thread Lee Evans
Oh goodness!  May the Goddess guide Barnaby out of the crawl space and back into a loving home.   Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Maryam Ulomi ava...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Barnaby in your thoughts

2012-09-18 Thread Lee Evans
Grand news!  Hope he checks out OK.    Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! From: Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012

Re: [Felvtalk] Deciding-when-a-pet-has-suffered-enough

2012-09-25 Thread Lee Evans
The problem with euthanasia for pets is that most people will use it for their own convenience.  I have seen this happen several times and it's really terrible but there is no crime in killing an animal.  We do this every day to eat them, for sport, as trophies or just because we don't want

Re: [Felvtalk] Animals PTS for the wrong reason

2012-09-28 Thread Lee Evans
that far if it were me. Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: I couldn't have said it better Lee,  you are an excellent writer and you express yourself beautifully.  Lorrie On 09-25, Lee Evans wrote:     The problem with euthanasia for pets is that most people will use

Re: [Felvtalk] Euthanasia

2012-09-28 Thread Lee Evans
My mother died at home.  She was over 90 years old, had fallen and broken her hip three years prior, would not go to the hospital to have it operated on because she was a nurse and hated hospitals.  I took care of her for the three years that she survived.  I had some help, which was very

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting

2012-10-04 Thread Lee Evans
When I first joined the animal welfare movement, I was and still am an animal rights activist, vegan by ethics and choice.  I was treated by some as if I were a terrorist, barely tolerated by them, feared by others, ignored by still others.  Finally, one of the fearful people asked me what

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: FW: Bow hunting

2012-10-04 Thread Lee Evans
During the years of concentration camps, very few babies were born to the women who were being tortured there, even though rape was rampant.  It wasn't that they turned off their reproductive system because it was a legitimate rape but because below a certain nutritional level, the body of a

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Bow hunting

2012-10-04 Thread Lee Evans
is easy and better without all the additives of store-bought. From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent: Thursday, October 04, 2012 9:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bow hunting   When I first joined the animal welfare

[Felvtalk] Bow Hunting

2012-10-04 Thread Lee Evans
Thursday, October 4, 2012 10:53 AMI get the same response from hostile people.  Trees and vegetables are living things so you can't eat that either.  Well, I will never be seen munching on a tree.  I'm not a woodpecker but my idea is that I never eat anything that had a face or could move on

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: President

2012-10-04 Thread Lee Evans
I agree that neither candidate can make animal rights/welfare a major issue in this election and I also agree that the economy is the major issue that impacts our rescues and other people's companion animals the most.  Then I look at the incumbent and see a man who was trussed up like a chicken

Re: [Felvtalk] Bow Hunting

2012-10-04 Thread Lee Evans
In addition, our teeth are not those of carnivores.  We have teeth similar to other primates.  We can't tear into our food.  We chomp like a chimp.  Our teeth are suited to nuts, seeds, grains, fruit, leaves, tubers and roots.  When we try to shred meat, even the most tender steak or well

Re: [Felvtalk] (no subject)

2012-10-04 Thread Lee Evans
Don't fret Elizabeth.  Occasionally we get a little off topic but we soon get back on the road. Just like you would take a journey and have to pull over to the shoulder of the road to allow your car to cool down we do the same here.  We all have different opinions and sometimes we just like to

[Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive?

2012-10-05 Thread Lee Evans
One of the strangest problems I face with my FeLv+ and FIV+ cats is going to the vet for a simple health issue.  I bring in a fat, sleek cat with a URI and the vet asks me, in the course of treatment Is this one of  your FeLv+ or FIV+ cats?  Well, I have to say yes because we are at the

Re: [Felvtalk] President

2012-10-05 Thread Lee Evans
I've never been a list moderator or been a position to direct anything except to try to direct a bunch of cats to use the litter boxes.  However, let me just add a bit of wisdom or non-wisdom, however you want to view it.  Discussing politics and religion usually causes minor skirmishes and

Re: [Felvtalk] President

2012-10-05 Thread Lee Evans
be greatly appreciated. On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 12:16 PM, Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I've never been a list moderator or been a position to direct anything except to try to direct a bunch of cats to use the litter boxes.  However, let me just add a bit of wisdom or non-wisdom, however

Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Lee Evans
or Frontline. make sure you are using a product that is safe on cats. MOST OF THE NEW DOG PRODUCTS ARE NOT OK TO USE ON CATS - EG. ADVANTIX Beth   Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk

[Felvtalk] (no subject)

2012-10-05 Thread Lee Evans
In the middle of our chit-chat about politics and hunters and vegetarian diets, if someone had come in with the subject line: Cat Bitten by Cobra, we would have been off the chatty stuff in an instant and onto Google to look up what could be done for the cat while the caregiver was taking him

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Lee Evans
I'm not sure that fleas can become immune to meds.  The ones who are on the cat die.  The ones who hatch from the floor jump on the cat, die.  The ones who lay eggs are apparently still alive so how can they become immune to a product?  Unless Super Flea survives the treatment and goes on to

[Felvtalk] Asking For Advice Again

2012-10-05 Thread Lee Evans
Certain antihistamines that are given to cats are also an appetite stimulant.  Chlorpheneramine is one.  I think it's a little yellow pill if I remember correctly.  It's better than giving cortisone which also increases appetite but I believe would be contraindicated for a cat who has a

Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again

2012-10-05 Thread Lee Evans
Another brain cell woke up and reminded me that there's also an antihistamine called Ciproheptadine.  I'm thinking that this is the one they use as an appetite stimulant. I just Googled it and sure enough, this is the one.  If you want more information on getting your cat to eat go to the

Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Lee Evans
I just went to the home page.  WOW!  This is wonderful.  Per cat it comes out to be less than a dollar a dose.  I'm sending this page on to a rescuer who is not on this list but runs a rescued cat shelter and adoption center.  Thanks for mentioning it.   Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and

Re: [Felvtalk] Why Are You Keeping This Cat Alive?

2012-10-05 Thread Lee Evans
...@yahoo.com wrote: My current vet my previous vet all treat the symptoms like they would any other cat, but I know plenty who don't. Beth   Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk felvtalk

Re: [Felvtalk] sOMETHING IS WRONG.

2012-10-06 Thread Lee Evans
When you get a message is too long notice from the moderator, it means that you sent the entire thread of conversation, maybe 10 or more of everyone elses messages along with your two lines.  When  you click on Reply and write your message, remember to scroll down and delete all but the message

Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-06 Thread Lee Evans
I don't believe that the doses would be different because you break the big one into 7 doses (as in Frontline Plus).  I was afraid to do this at first because I thought it might somehow be different than the single doses but if you think about it, there's no sediment at the bottom of the tube. 

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2012-10-06 Thread Lee Evans
This is just an opinion stemming from a human experience with vaccinations.  I almost died from the whooping cough vaccination when I was 9 years old.  Again, when the Salk vaccine came out, my father, a physician gave me the anti-polio vaccination.  Now, I do approve of polio vaccinations

Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Flea Products

2012-10-06 Thread Lee Evans
AND WE STOPPED IT. Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: I'm not sure that fleas can become immune to meds.  The ones who are on the cat die.  The ones who hatch from the floor jump on the cat, die.  The ones who lay eggs are apparently still alive so how can they become immune

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinations

2012-10-06 Thread Lee Evans
Tubal ligations are even dangerous in human females.  They can open up, get infected, cause blockages, even lead to tubal pregnancies although I don't know exactly how that would happen.  I worked in a medical office for 12 years and tubals never seemed to work as advertised. Most women

Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-06 Thread Lee Evans
@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products I actually use Frontline on incoming cats with fleas….just that once, then it’s the friendly little nematodes!     From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee Evans Sent

Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again/back to Leukemia list

2012-10-07 Thread Lee Evans
Do you have the kitten who tested positive? Usually, if the are healthy except for the positive test, they will throw off the exposure to the virus, especially if they are not stressed and getting good quality food and care.  The other nine, since you have them with you I assume, have very

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