Hello Everyone,
My name is Michael Roberts.? I just received word a few hours ago about one of
my babies being diagnosed, so bear with me if this takes me a while to get
out.
First of all, a bit of background information.? I currently have three cats,
all Siamese and all from rescues.? The
Thanks guys. I stopped on my way home from work and picked up some Lysine
and Echinacea, I'm going to start putting it in their food. I also got some
high protein purina naturals food to replace their cat chow indoor formula,
and I'll step up to proplan or iams or something if I need to.
Ok, guys, here's the status. I just called the vet's office, they told me
both Poppy and Grizzabella's tests came back positive today. I guess what I
need to do now is figure out what to do from here. I did ask about UT, and
she just sort of side-stepped the question. I also asked
Sorry, I should have clarified. UT is the Univ
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Let me try this again
UT is the University of Tennessee Medical Center. They have a Veterinary
program there, its a teaching school. I think an internal medicine specialist
is the next step, if I can get my doc to refer me.
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Thanks for the info. I'll definitely look into better foods. Do you all
think its ok to mix in their morning and nightly Fancy Feast Elegant Medleys?
There are three of them, and they share a can each morning and each night, so
they average only 1/3 of a can at a time, but its something
Quick question: I forgot how you came to test them in the first place.? Are
they new adoptees or is one of them sick?
Hi Wendy,
To answer your question, they ended up being tested because the Vet asked Jeff
if he wanted them tested.? He didn't know what to say, so he just said yes.? I
guess
Hey guys,
Just an update on the situation with Grizzabella and Poppy. I stopped by my
vet's office this morning with the UT vet referral forms in hand. I was
actually quite surprised, they seemed very receptive to the idea, so I left
the
forms with them. They said the vet that
Wendy,
Here's the breakdown:
I've had Grizzabella since 2001, and she was approximately a year old at
that point, so she's about 7. She came from a rescue shelter that went
terribly
bad, but I'm almost certain I had her tested and she was negative at that
time, because I remember she
Update for the day:
I spoke with my vet today at Creekside, and surprisingly enough he was very
receptive and wrote the referrals for UT. They have an appointment on
Tuesday, September 11 for, as Dr. Dolen wrote, FeLV workup and medical
supportive
therapy. It gives me some hope. We'll
Ok, guys, since I'm feeling particularly sad tonight about my babies, let me
ask this...
How long have you all known of a cat surviving after FeLV+ diagnosis?
I know the standard is, according to almost everyone, 2-3 years after
diagnosis, but I'm sure some of you all have had experiences
Ugh, I'm sorry about that. I know that question has nothing to do with eye
ulcers...I meant to change the subject line and forgot. :/
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Who/What is this Best Friends? I must be missing something?
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What protocol do you guys usually follow for your positive cats (who are
exclusively indoor, of course) and flea treatments? I'm sure with the FeLV,
flea bites are even more dangerous. Should I be treating them with
Frontline/Advantage every month year round, monthly during the summer
Megan,
I understand exactly where you’re coming from! Two of my three babies were
diagnosed with FeLV last week. After much agonizing and listening to sound
advice from the very educated people here, I’ve decided to not separate them
right now. You can probably gather a LOT of
Hey guys. I can't possibly imagine what could cost $2000 other than a very
extensive hospitalization. Their prices and fees for labs and diagnostic
tests run pretty average...$15 to $40 for most testsand a
consultation/exam/visit is only $60. My appointment is on the 11th. I'll be
Hey guys,
Quick question...I've heard a couple of you on here mention you use the
advantage or frontline for dogs on your cats to save money, can someone fill me
in on how you do this? I've noticed one of my positive kitties scratching the
last couple of days, so I assume she's picked up
Thanks for all the info guys!? One more question...if I buy the largest dose to
treat? 4 cats, how long will the other four doses in the tube last after its
been opened? Would it be wasted, or could I draw it into a syringe or something
and keep it until their next dose is due?? Not sure
Hey guys. Not sure what happened to my message...said something about being
held for moderator approval. Anyway, I'm resending.
Hey guys. I just got back from UT CVM with Poppy and Bella, and I promised
an update. As for their health, they're doing fine really, no symptoms
still,
Wendy,
I'm not really sure WHAT they done at the local vet. :/
I was rather confused myself today when they told me Creekside said they
hadn't done an IFA. :/ All the invoice/receipt says is Feline Leukemia/ FIV
Combo TEST. I just assumed that when we asked them to send her blood off
Got this message from the vet student this morning:
Michael,
I just wanted to let you know that both Poppie and Grizzabella came back
positive for feline leukemia on the snap test. I realize this is not a big
surprise, but it is always good to double check. We will still have to
Hey guys,
I just got home a few minutes ago and Jeff had been holding Grizzabella
earlier. Apparently there was some blood on his shirt where he was holding
her.
I'm not sure if its rectal or vaginal bleeding, but I'm sure when I take her
to the vet they're going to want samples, so do
I guess I'm having a hard time figuring out the free of litter part. With
three cats, its tough to know who's used the litter box. I could keep it
scooped and watch for her, I suppose, but will a sample I just scoop out be
ok?
I mean, after she's covered it up, do I just scoop it out
I also use a Drinkwell. I've had it for a year now (with three cats) and
never had a problem out of it. Personally, I'd highly recommend it.
There's also a new Drinkwell Platinum on the market, not sure if there's any
real difference or not.
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The girls got a new toy tonight, and I took some pictures. I was trying to
send to you guys, but the messages keep getting caught up. Do we have a
moderator for the group to approve them, or does anyone have another
suggestion
as to how I can send them?
Michael
As a matter of fact, its funny you should send that email. I JUST finished
putting them all on Flickr:
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(http://www.flickr.com/photos/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/)
I have many many more, actually, and I'll probably work on adding some of
them
Hey all,
?
As promised, below is the written recommendations from UTCVM on Poppy and
Grizzabella.? Thoughts?
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Subject: Current FeLV recommendations
Mr. Roberts, I apologize again for
Not that my opinion matters, but I'd personally have a difficult time accepting
someone's (a veterinarian that declaws) word on something who stands to gain
(financially) from declawing cats. ?
If you want a case study, take a look:
http://www.pawproject.com/html/cases.asp?SortOrder=5
The phrase comes to mind, The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
:(
I have no doubt whoever is running this shelter has the best of intentions.
One of my girls, the one I think was the first positive, came from just such
a shelter (Angel Wings in Kingston, TN). I know this lady
And let us also remember, that when you say its our list, that our includes
Glenda and Susan as well. I believe, as Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. once said,
“We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the hateful words and
actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of
Sometimes saying what needs to be said isn't nice, but that doesn't make it any
less important to say. You all judge some on this list for doing the exact
same thing you are. If everyone would be less quick to jump on the flogging
bandwagon, perhaps more constructive conversation would be
In a message dated 9/26/2007 6:26:25 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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you are prescribing medicine without a license.
Wow. It just doesn't end, does it? For the record, twelvehousecats, Susan
has left the list, so that's one less jab she'll have to deal with, due
I forgot to include the article in my previous email. The link is here, the
full text follows:
_PETA Media Center Factsheets_
(http://www.peta.org/factsheet/files/FactsheetDisplay.asp?ID=42)
Declawing Cats: Manicure or Mutilation?
Cats’
I just wanted to clarify, though its really not important, that Tennessee
does have a veterinary school at a land grant university. The University of
Tennessee College of Veterinary Medicine, which is a Land-Grand University.
Michael
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Vanderbilt is a private school. The system in TN is sort of unique, I
believe. We have the University of Tennessee system, which governs the UT
schools: Knoxville, Chattanooga, Martin.
We also have the Tennessee Board of Regents system that governs Tennessee
State University (our other
I'd have to agree with the take her camp on this one. I have this adorable
girl that wandered to my house after I moved in. I call her Whitey. :) She's
a gorgeous domestic longhair, with one blue eye and one brown. She's adorable,
and sort of just moved in when I did and hasn't left. All
By the way, I forgot to mention she's solid white...hence the name Whitey,
which I jokingly called her because I never expected her to move in. lol
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For those of you without the history, Whitey came to me about six months ago
relatively permanently.? She showed up and just sort of stayed.? When she came,
she was boney (You could feel its ribs) and her long white fur was literally in
huge mats
Ok, guys, here's an updated on Whitey (Ugh, I hate thatname, but Jeff won't
let me change it now), 24 hours into the intervention ;)
I've done a lot of thinking, and soul searching.? And I've decided I'm not
gonna put him back outside, or make any effort to contact his owners.? I've
decided
Ok, guys, here's the update for the day. First of all, I am even more convinced
now, and I stand by my decision to not contact his previous owners. I just
can't imagine anything good coming out of it.? This boy is too special to have
to go back to that mess, and I'm afraid if I did let him go
Ok, guys. I just got off the phone with Whitey's vet.? Good news and what could
potentially be really bad news.?? Good news first.
First of all, his Thyroid is normal, which Dr. Dolen says defies logic.? He
wants to retest in a few weeks.?? All his other major organ functions were
lol, diane, the finger chewing comment cracked me up.? I found a local place
that sells the PetsLife oral care gel, and I bought some ($28.00ouch!)?
I'll let you guys know how it works for me.? The directions said youdon't have
to apply it directly to the teeth as long as it gets in the
In a message dated 10/16/2007 10:06:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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I'm thinking Innova Evo canned is going to the the highest, without grains
of course. Let us know if you find something with more. I am hoping he
doesn't have FIP, but be careful of the corona
In a message dated 10/16/2007 10:25:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Good to hear from you. Thanks for the tip on Solid Gold Tuna. I'll put
that in my archives. Do you think he'll need a longer course of antibiotics
given the severity of the infection? It
Ok, guys, as you know, my cat population has grown to four. With that comes
an exponential number of litterboxes (three currently, thinking about
upgrading to four), and well, honestly, litter is getting a bit expensive with
all
the other costs. I'm curious about what you guys use?
In a message dated 10/20/2007 11:24:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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Wow Michael! The things we do for our kitties! I am so glad his test was
negative! It sounds like you are exstatic! The only thing I am wondering now
is if it's too soon to do his vaccines.
In a message dated 10/20/2007 1:22:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Hello. My vet does only one vaccination at a time and does them separately
from the spay/neuter. He goes 2-4 weeks between each vaccination and the
altering. Is there any point in vaccinating him
In a message dated 10/20/2007 1:42:58 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
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I did not think it possible to send photos to the list.
Laurie,
I'm not sure. Possibly because I inserted the pictures in the email instead
of attaching them as files? You might try that.
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None of this does anything for keeping down on garbage.. which I think
explains why my trash collectors put everyone else's garbage cans neatly back
in
their driveway, while mine are the only ones
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Sam's Club has 12 lb bags of A H baking soda for about $4.00.
You guys just mix the baking soda in the litter? Do you think that works as
well as the litter box deodorizer you buy in cans? I
Hey guys. Whitey is still having some issues and I was hoping some of the
more experienced people around might have an idea of what's up.
The problem I'm seeing is he's still disoriented/The problem I'm seeing is
he's still disoriented/WB I can't figure out whats wrong with him! We
I had three cats when I tried the crystals alone, and I did *not* like the
results at all.? The crystals yellowed and smelled horrible before a week was
up.? They just didn't work for me at all; however, with the suggestions you
guys? had, I tried mixing my Tidy Cats with crystals (I split a
Ok, guys. I hope someone can figure this situation out, because I'm at my
wit's end. Two of my girls are NOT getting along, and I don't know what to
do. Penelope (FeLV negative, 2 years old, very standoffish personality, not a
friendly type cat, doesn't want to be held, only wants
Ok, guys, thought I'd update you on the situation with the two fighting
girls.
Jeff took Penelope (FeLV negative) to the vet today. We noticed last night
that her left eye was beginning to cloud up. Dr. Dolen said she had
scratched her cornea somehow in at least a couple different
I just wanted to second this, Jane.? Regardless of people's feelings for Susan
OR Kelly, the fact remains that this story was done by a reputable news
organization.?The story isn't made up.?I highly doubt?a news organization
would use fabricated stories.???The media is, by its nature, supposed
You know, I'm going to try and breathe and count to ten before I respond to
this post.? Actually, no, I don't think I will.? I posted an emotionally
neutral, nonspecific post in response to that rubbish you've been spouting off,
and you attack me. Prepare thyself for my response.? You, and a
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