[Felvtalk] FW: Asking for advice again/back to Leukemia list

2012-10-08 Thread GRAS
I have never looked at archives, so why would a person who just joined do that 
when they ask a question or present their problem to the group?

I really don’t see a problem here.

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Monday, October 08, 2012 10:19 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again/back to Leukemia list

 

I've always directed people to this list, but if the first thing they see when 
they look at the archives is talk about politics  hunting they may just turn 
away.

 

Beth

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From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2012 1:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again/back to Leukemia list

 

As someone posted already, as soon as someone needs advice, the off topic will 
change immediately.  This happens during a lull – we haven’t had any serious 
issues for a while!, which is good. Then your problem came along, and I saw 
quite a few replies from several people; if you feel it wasn’t enough, ask 
again, what specific concerns or explanations you require after the advice was 
given.

Yes, FeLV is super serious, and this is exactly where you can get help. 

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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Asking for advice again/back to Leukemia list

2012-10-08 Thread Lee Evans
I just went to the website for the first time. Mail Archives is 5th down the list. The other links take anyone interested to Treatments, FAQ's, FeLv Links and the mailing list. Why would anyone needing information on the disease pass up all these opportunities and go to Mail Archives? In addition, the main section of the home page is devoted to Treatments! It's too bad that discussions of politics annoy some people but you can't put one issue into a bubble and not expect that world and local events won't impact it. Politics these days impacts our very existence since it includes our personal finances, whether our children and grandchildren will be sent to foreign countries to fight wars against people they have never even met and die or be injured and handicapped for the rest of their
 lives. It impacts whether we have personal resources to care for our companion animals, whether they are feline, canine or some other species. It impacts whether we will have a place to live where our cats and dogs are accepted as part of our family. Even as personal a topic as religion impacts us. You have to remember that cats have been associated with women for centuries and women have been suspected of being witches by some major religions. Therefore, cats and women have been killed by being tossed into flames and burned to death, tossed into rivers and drowned, because some religions believe that cats and women are in league with the devil. Most religions, up to a decade ago refused to believe that animals have souls. Most still don't believe that cows, sheep, pigs and other animals have souls. I have no idea on what authority they come to this conclusion but it endangers our companion animals and turns
 them and their brothers and sisters of other species into food, decoration, sport and entertainment items and clothing because they are viewed as products that happen to be animated and able to move from place to place on their own, instead of living beings having the same Life Force as we have.Most topics we discuss here, INCLUDING Politics and Religion are not OFF TOPIC but are on topics that seem to anger those who have not come to grips with their own beliefs and probably have not done enough research to have a firm conviction in their own beliefs. Trust that if someone from the outside comes onto this list and needs information on all the health issues concerning FeLv+ cats, they will get more information and answers than they ever expected.Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too!From: GRAS g...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 10:08 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] FW:  Asking for advice again/back to Leukemia
 list   I have never looked at archives, so why would a person who just joined do that when they ask a question or present their problem to the group?I really don’t see a problem here.From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of BethSent: Monday, October 08, 2012 10:19 AMTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again/back to Leukemia list I've always directed people to this list, but if the first thing they see when they look at the archives is talk about politics  hunting they may just turn away. BethDon't Litter, Fix Your Critter!www.Furkids.org From: GRAS g...@optonline.netTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2012 1:11 PMSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Asking for advice again/back to Leukemia list As someone posted already, as soon as someone needs advice, the off topic will change immediately. This happens during a lull – we haven’t had any serious issues for a while!, which is good. Then your problem came along, and I saw quite a few replies from several people; if you feel it wasn’t enough, ask again, what specific concerns or explanations you require after the advice was given.Yes, FeLV is super serious, and this is exactly where you can get help.
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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Asking for advice again/back to Leukemia list

2012-10-08 Thread Beth


Wow...
Thanks, but I have come to grips with my own beliefs  I have done enough 
research to have a firm conviction of my own 
beliefs
I just don't feel the need to discuss them in a forum which is supposed to be 
support for people with FeLV cats


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 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, October 8, 2012 1:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW:  Asking for advice again/back to Leukemia list
 

I just went to the website for the first time.  Mail Archives is 5th down the 
list.  The other links take anyone interested to Treatments, FAQ's, FeLv Links 
and the mailing list.  Why would anyone needing information on the disease pass 
up all these opportunities and go to Mail Archives?  In addition, the main 
section of the home page is devoted to Treatments!  

It's too bad that discussions of politics annoy some people but you can't put 
one issue into a bubble and not expect that world and local events won't impact 
it.  Politics these days impacts our very existence since it includes our 
personal finances, whether our children and grandchildren will be sent to 
foreign countries to fight wars against people they have never even met and die 
or be injured and handicapped for the
 rest of their
 lives. It impacts whether we have personal resources to care for our companion 
animals, whether they are feline, canine or some other species.  It impacts 
whether we will have a place to live where our cats and dogs are accepted as 
part of our family.  Even as personal a topic as religion impacts us.  You have 
to remember that cats have been associated with women for centuries and women 
have been suspected of being witches by some major religions.  Therefore, cats 
and women have been killed by being tossed into flames and burned to death, 
tossed into rivers and drowned, because some religions believe that cats and 
women are in league with the devil.  Most religions, up to a decade ago refused 
to believe that animals have souls.  Most still don't believe that cows, sheep, 
pigs and other animals have souls.  I have no idea on what authority they come 
to this conclusion but it endangers our companion animals and turns
 them and their brothers and sisters of other species into food, decoration, 
sport and entertainment items and clothing because they are viewed as products 
that happen to be animated and able to move from place to place on their own, 
instead of living beings having the same Life Force as we have.

Most topics we discuss here, INCLUDING Politics and Religion are not OFF TOPIC 
but are on topics that seem to anger those who have not come to grips with 
their own beliefs and probably have not done enough research to have a firm 
conviction in their own beliefs.  Trust that if someone from the outside comes 
onto this list and needs information on all the health issues concerning FeLv+ 
cats, they will get more information and answers than they ever expected.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!




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[Felvtalk] FW: Asking For Advice Again

2012-10-05 Thread Natalie
Sorry, I meant to write ¼ and NOT 1/54…my fingers just went crazy…..

 

From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net] 
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 6:51 PM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Asking For Advice Again

 

I use Cyproheptadine, which I used to take as Periactin liquid, samples from
a doc friend, when I was a skinny teenager.  I use 1/54 daily for our 18+ yr
old CRF cat (he’s huge!).

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 6:17 PM
To: felvtalk
Subject: [Felvtalk] Asking For Advice Again

 

Certain antihistamines that are given to cats are also an appetite
stimulant.  Chlorpheneramine is one.  I think it's a little yellow pill if I
remember correctly.  It's better than giving cortisone which also increases
appetite but I believe would be contraindicated for a cat who has a
malignant tumor.  You need to ask your vet about this.  It has no harmful
side effects as far as I can remember.  I gave it to a cat who had terminal
salivary gland cancer and it kept her eating right up until the end, that
and anti- nausea drugs because she had had a chemo pill every week for
several months to stop the growth of the tumor. I have since decided that
that treatment, the chemo pill was a waste of $2000.  Another cat who had a
tumor in a different location lived just about as long as Baby Face, without
getting chemo. Chemo is also very hard on other organs, causing diarrhea,
fur loss and exhaustion.

 

 

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neighbors too!

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