Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis

2012-08-24 Thread Susan Hoffman 
No, not the entire time.  But the pred was a big help in cutting the 
inflammation.
 
 



From: Kathryn Hargreaves 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 4:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis


Were you doing steroids all through this process?


On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Susan Hoffman  wrote:

Snowy had three separate procedures -- the first to extract teeth, then when 
that did not solve the problem she had the first laser treatment, and then she 
went back for a touch-up with the laser.  So we were doing pain meds before, 
during and after.
> 
>Snowy's situation was pretty extreme.  Her gums were purple and the pain was 
>so severe that she could not eat on her own.  If I tried to put medicine in 
>her mouth she went ballistic.  Her mouth was on fire and everything hurt.  We 
>wound up doing injectible buprenex for the pain.  This allowed her to eat.  I 
>hid her prednisone in cat food.  And then I tucked her in a cage at night with 
>a plate of clindamycin-spiked tuna.  That was our process.  But without really 
>serious opiate based pain meds none of this would have worked.  
> 
>I also spent a lot of time hand feeding her.  She was able to lick from my 
>fingers what she could not eat from the plate.  I think the plate may have 
>bumped or rubbed her gums.
> 
>The laser was NOT the sort that could be done without anesthesia.  This cat 
>was in such extreme pain that she could not even be examined without 
>sedation.  This was an invasive procedure that burned away the bad tissue and 
>allowed new tissue to grow in its place.  It worked.  I really thought we were 
>going to have to euthanize this cat.  But the laser really worked.  Still, it 
>was a difficult several months and the recovery process was slow.  The pain 
>meds were essential to getting both Snowy and me through this.
>
>
>From: Natalie 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:01 AM 
>
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis
>
>
>
>Do you mean after the laser treatment?
> 
> 
>From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
>[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:44 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis
>
>If the stomatitis is severe and the cat is having trouble eating, really 
>consider heavy duty pain meds like buprenex during the treatment process.  I 
>know that Snowy and I would not have gotten through it all without serious 
>pain management.
>
>
> 
>From:Natalie 
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:34 AM
>Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis
> 
> 
>Since I wouldn’t be able to give the two FIV+ cats anything orally, especially 
>so much of it, having huge daily struggles, probably getting kicked and 
>bitten…..
> 
>I will definitely look into the cold laser solution!
> 
> 
>From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
>[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
>Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:34 AM
>To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis
> 
>Wow. I love holistic approaches, but I'd be afraid my cats would die from 
>stress related illness before the stomatitis was cured. I have to wrap them in 
>a towel to get meds in them. Do you mix it in their food?
>I have heard great things about the laser procedure.
>
>Beth
>Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis

2012-08-24 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves 
Were you doing steroids all through this process?

On Fri, Aug 24, 2012 at 8:11 AM, Susan Hoffman wrote:

> Snowy had three separate procedures -- the first to extract teeth, then
> when that did not solve the problem she had the first laser treatment, and
> then she went back for a touch-up with the laser.  So we were doing pain
> meds before, during and after.
>
> Snowy's situation was pretty extreme.  Her gums were purple and the pain
> was so severe that she could not eat on her own.  If I tried to put
> medicine in her mouth she went ballistic.  Her mouth was on fire and
> everything hurt.  We wound up doing injectible buprenex for the pain.  This
> allowed her to eat.  I hid her prednisone in cat food.  And then I tucked
> her in a cage at night with a plate of clindamycin-spiked tuna.  That was
> our process.  But without really serious opiate based pain meds none of
> this would have worked.
>
> I also spent a lot of time hand feeding her.  She was able to lick from my
> fingers what she could not eat from the plate.  I think the plate may have
> bumped or rubbed her gums.
>
> The laser was NOT the sort that could be done without anesthesia.  This
> cat was in such extreme pain that she could not even be examined without
> sedation.  This was an invasive procedure that burned away the bad tissue
> and allowed new tissue to grow in its place.  It worked.  I really thought
> we were going to have to euthanize this cat.  But the laser really worked.
> Still, it was a difficult several months and the recovery process was
> slow.  The pain meds were essential to getting both Snowy and me through
> this.
>
>   *From:* Natalie 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2012 9:01 AM
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis
>
>   Do you mean after the laser treatment?
>
>
>  *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
> felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Susan Hoffman
> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2012 11:44 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis
>
>  If the stomatitis is severe and the cat is having trouble eating, really
> consider heavy duty pain meds like buprenex during the treatment process.
> I know that Snowy and I would not have gotten through it all without
> serious pain management.
>
>
>   *From:* Natalie 
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2012 7:34 AM
> *Subject:* [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis
>
>
>  Since I wouldn’t be able to give the two FIV+ cats anything orally,
> especially so much of it, having huge daily struggles, probably getting
> kicked and bitten…..
>
>  I will definitely look into the cold laser solution!
>
>
>   *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [
> mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
> *On Behalf Of *Beth
> *Sent:* Friday, August 24, 2012 9:34 AM
> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis
>
>   Wow. I love holistic approaches, but I'd be afraid my cats would die
> from stress related illness before the stomatitis was cured. I have to wrap
> them in a towel to get meds in them. Do you mix it in their food?
>  I have heard great things about the laser procedure.
>
> Beth
>  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/
>
>
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If you can't adopt, then foster "bottle baby" shelter animal, to save their
life.  Contact your local pound for information.
<http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm>

If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation:
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/<http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/>

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis

2012-08-24 Thread Susan Hoffman 
Snowy had three separate procedures -- the first to extract teeth, then when 
that did not solve the problem she had the first laser treatment, and then she 
went back for a touch-up with the laser.  So we were doing pain meds before, 
during and after.
 
Snowy's situation was pretty extreme.  Her gums were purple and the pain was so 
severe that she could not eat on her own.  If I tried to put medicine in her 
mouth she went ballistic.  Her mouth was on fire and everything hurt.  We wound 
up doing injectible buprenex for the pain.  This allowed her to eat.  I hid her 
prednisone in cat food.  And then I tucked her in a cage at night with a plate 
of clindamycin-spiked tuna.  That was our process.  But without really serious 
opiate based pain meds none of this would have worked.  
 
I also spent a lot of time hand feeding her.  She was able to lick from my 
fingers what she could not eat from the plate.  I think the plate may have 
bumped or rubbed her gums.
 
The laser was NOT the sort that could be done without anesthesia.  This cat was 
in such extreme pain that she could not even be examined without sedation.  
This was an invasive procedure that burned away the bad tissue and allowed new 
tissue to grow in its place.  It worked.  I really thought we were going to 
have to euthanize this cat.  But the laser really worked.  Still, it was a 
difficult several months and the recovery process was slow.  The pain meds were 
essential to getting both Snowy and me through this.



From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis


Do you mean after the laser treatment?
 
 
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:44 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis
 
If the stomatitis is severe and the cat is having trouble eating, really 
consider heavy duty pain meds like buprenex during the treatment process.  I 
know that Snowy and I would not have gotten through it all without serious pain 
management.


 
From:Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:34 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis
 
 
Since I wouldn’t be able to give the two FIV+ cats anything orally, especially 
so much of it, having huge daily struggles, probably getting kicked and 
bitten…..
 
I will definitely look into the cold laser solution!
 
 
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis
 
Wow. I love holistic approaches, but I'd be afraid my cats would die from 
stress related illness before the stomatitis was cured. I have to wrap them in 
a towel to get meds in them. Do you mix it in their food?
I have heard great things about the laser procedure.

Beth
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/
 
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis

2012-08-24 Thread Natalie 
Do you mean after the laser treatment?

 

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 11:44 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis

 

If the stomatitis is severe and the cat is having trouble eating, really 
consider heavy duty pain meds like buprenex during the treatment process.  I 
know that Snowy and I would not have gotten through it all without serious pain 
management.



 

From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:34 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis

 

 

Since I wouldn’t be able to give the two FIV+ cats anything orally, especially 
so much of it, having huge daily struggles, probably getting kicked and 
bitten…..

 

I will definitely look into the cold laser solution!

 

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis

 

Wow. I love holistic approaches, but I'd be afraid my cats would die from 
stress related illness before the stomatitis was cured. I have to wrap them in 
a towel to get meds in them. Do you mix it in their food?

I have heard great things about the laser procedure.

Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/

 

 


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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis

2012-08-24 Thread Susan Hoffman 
If the stomatitis is severe and the cat is having trouble eating, really 
consider heavy duty pain meds like buprenex during the treatment process.  I 
know that Snowy and I would not have gotten through it all without serious pain 
management.




From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:34 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis


 
Since I wouldn’t be able to give the two FIV+ cats anything orally, especially 
so much of it, having huge daily struggles, probably getting kicked and 
bitten…..
 
I will definitely look into the cold laser solution!
 
 
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis
 
Wow. I love holistic approaches, but I'd be afraid my cats would die from 
stress related illness before the stomatitis was cured. I have to wrap them in 
a towel to get meds in them. Do you mix it in their food?
I have heard great things about the laser procedure.

Beth
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://www.furkids.org/
 
 
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[Felvtalk] FW: Stomatitis

2012-08-24 Thread Natalie 
 

Since I wouldn’t be able to give the two FIV+ cats anything orally, especially 
so much of it, having huge daily struggles, probably getting kicked and 
bitten…..

 

I will definitely look into the cold laser solution!

 

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 9:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis

 

Wow. I love holistic approaches, but I'd be afraid my cats would die from 
stress related illness before the stomatitis was cured. I have to wrap them in 
a towel to get meds in them. Do you mix it in their food?

I have heard great things about the laser procedure.

Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org  

 

 

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