Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-03-06 Thread dlgegg
sorry to be late with this, been a while since i logged in.  my Annie was 
diagnosed felv + at age 4 when i got her.  her owner was dying with liver 
cancer and could not keep her.  if the right home could not be found, she 
wanted put to sleep.  she spent 21 days locked in her owners trailer alone with 
only contact when owner's sister came to feed her and clean box.  when i got 
her, she was pretty stressed out and since she had never been around other 
cats, not happy with 2 i already had being there.  she seems to be an alpha 
female and bullied my other female Homey who was a stray.  she had been spayed 
by previous owner who used same vet i use.  since then, i have taken in 3 more 
babies, 2 whom no one wanted because they were 10 years old and 1, a stray whom 
a lady had been feeding.  he had been hit by a car and needed 2 pins in his 
leg.  she could not afford it so opted to put to sleep.  he was so sweet, vet 
opted to fix his leg and find a home for him.  this is same vet who found me 
for Annie.  he knows a soft touch when he sees one.  with each new cat, Annie 
has been agressive, but met her match with Casey who is also alpha female.   
still have a problem with Lil Bit and Annie.  she is reclusive, 10 years old 
and when she does come into the room with others, she hisses and screams just 
like Annie.  Lil Bit is also very skittish, the least sound or motion and she 
runs out of the room.  i am going to test Annie again, since she had never been 
positive before all the upheavel in her life and we are thinking maybe she was 
exposed as a baby, developed and immunity and was okayuntil all the trauma.  
she is better than she was with the others and has settled down some so now we 
think would be a good time to retest.  Annie, Casey, Homey and Bob all are 
in/out cats depending on the weather.  i live in the middle of the woods so it 
is fairly safe and they usually spend most of their time on the deck and about 
half way down the bluff.  have very little contact with wild animals.  seem to 
sense it is smarter to sty away from them than try to fight them.  all the 
others have been vaccinated for felv along with rabies and the other shots.  
since they do have a chance of contacting rabies carrying animals, fell shots 
are necessary.  i do nt try to seperate Annie from others, seems cruel to do 
so, plus she can open doors.  so far, she has shown no signs of illness, is fat 
and sassy, eats good, drinks plenty of waterand is in general a healthy cat.  
keep my fingers crossed.  of course at first sign of a problem, will rush her 
to vet.  dorlis
 amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp wrote: 
 Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past 
 FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and 
 how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could 
 participate!  AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS 
 DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS 
 LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT 
 HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS 
 YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your 
 time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good 
 health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-03-06 Thread dlgegg
missed one of your questions - i feed Hills science diet, a mix of adult 
hairball and the new one feeline natural best ocean fish.  is use revolution 
for fleas and ticks because it also takes out heartworm which is a growing 
problem around here, probably because we have had a flood here at least once a 
year.  dorlis amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp wrote: 
 Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or past 
 FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and 
 how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could 
 participate!  AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS 
 DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS 
 LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT 
 HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS 
 YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your 
 time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good 
 health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-03-06 Thread dlgegg
don't be sorry, you are caring for her and she knows that and the vet and techs 
care for her.  she may not like to be seperated from you, but she is still 
better off than she would be otherwise.  dorlis
 nancy denison nancydeni...@fpunet.com wrote: 
 I have seven cats, the youngest being Taz was diagnosed with FeLv when she 
 started getting sick after about 1 month with my other negative kitties all 
 of which are vacinated.  I took Taz in to get her looked at and to get her 
 shots.  That's when they tested her for FeLv and she came back positive.  I 
 feed her stinky salmon and white tuna, some Fancy Feast kitten food and some 
 baby food, whatever I can get her to eat.  She hates the Science Diet the vet 
 recommended.  I'va also boiled chicken for her for the broth and meat.  I've 
 had her on Imulan and have seen some mixed results but she is gaining weight, 
 happy and bouncy so I'm continuing with the expensive treatments.  She also 
 get Pet Tinic everyday and DMG.  I've seperated her from my other cats, which 
 I hate because she was buddies with my three legged tuxedo kitty, but this 
 was recommended by the vet.  She said that vacinations are not a guarantee 
 against the disease if the cats are exposed to it enough. All of my kitties 
 are indoor kitties except one does get outdoor roaming priviledges because it 
 gives him a better attitude.  The rest of the cats get there outdoor stuff on 
 a large screened in porch basically built just for them.
 It's hard having a FeLv kitty because I travel so much for work which means I 
 board her at the vets while I'm gone which of course stresses her some.  The 
 people love her at the vet but I think it directly affects her wellness with 
 regard to the blood work-up and down.
 Sorry for the long diatribe.  
 
 Nancy
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-03-06 Thread dlgegg
last time, promise.  have you tried mackeral, all of my cats past and present 
love it.  it is stinkier than salmon.  we like stinky food.  dorlis
 nancy denison nancydeni...@fpunet.com wrote: 
 I have seven cats, the youngest being Taz was diagnosed with FeLv when she 
 started getting sick after about 1 month with my other negative kitties all 
 of which are vacinated.  I took Taz in to get her looked at and to get her 
 shots.  That's when they tested her for FeLv and she came back positive.  I 
 feed her stinky salmon and white tuna, some Fancy Feast kitten food and some 
 baby food, whatever I can get her to eat.  She hates the Science Diet the vet 
 recommended.  I'va also boiled chicken for her for the broth and meat.  I've 
 had her on Imulan and have seen some mixed results but she is gaining weight, 
 happy and bouncy so I'm continuing with the expensive treatments.  She also 
 get Pet Tinic everyday and DMG.  I've seperated her from my other cats, which 
 I hate because she was buddies with my three legged tuxedo kitty, but this 
 was recommended by the vet.  She said that vacinations are not a guarantee 
 against the disease if the cats are exposed to it enough. All of my kitties 
 are indoor kitties except one does get outdoor roaming priviledges because it 
 gives him a better attitude.  The rest of the cats get there outdoor stuff on 
 a large screened in porch basically built just for them.
 It's hard having a FeLv kitty because I travel so much for work which means I 
 board her at the vets while I'm gone which of course stresses her some.  The 
 people love her at the vet but I think it directly affects her wellness with 
 regard to the blood work-up and down.
 Sorry for the long diatribe.  
 
 Nancy
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-03-06 Thread dlgegg
Hi, have you tried mackeral?  it is so smelly that you might fool him.  General 
 like my Bob, never met a person he did not like.  likes to sleep draped over 
my neck.  dorlis
 souther...@aol.com wrote: 
 
 
 
 AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU 
 DO/ARE
 DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, 
 E.G; INDOOR,
 OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY 
 OTHER
 ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? 
 OR WHEN
 THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF?
 
 My big boy, General Sterling Price, came to me.  I have never owned a 
 cat in my life.  I was working in my flowers in April 2007 when this 
 big black tuxedo cat came and CLIMBED ON MY BACK.  I was not happy.  I 
 tried to shoo him away.  He was having none of it.  He was like a bag 
 of bones.  And he cried so pitifully that I went and got him a bowl of 
 milk (I didn't know cats weren't supposed to have milk any more than 
 dogs are!)  He drank it down so I got him another, which he drank down. 
   The next day he was still out there.  So I brought him dog food out 
 (it's all I had) and he ate the entire bowl.  So the next day, when he 
 was still there, I bought him a sack of some sort of cat food at the 
 grocery.  He ate it of course.  After 3 weeks of doing this I decided 
 that if he was gonna hang around, then he was gonna be neutered.  So I 
 took him to the vet.  He did the required blood tests and said this cat 
 is FeLV+.  You might as well have him put to sleep as he's gonna die 
 anyway.  By then I had developed an attachment to him, so I changed 
 vets. (I now take him to the Nashville Cat Clinic)  This boy went from 
 living outside to living in the garage to now living in the house and 
 sleeping in the bed with the Mini Schnauzer who hates him and my 
 husband and me.  He has some really strange eating habits these days.  
 He won't eat any one food for long.  My vet wants him on grain free 
 canned but he's not willing to eat that right now.  He is now eating 
 Evo dry and Halo dry.  He'll eat one for 2-3 days and then he won't eat 
 it and I'll change.  The only problem I have is that I can no longer 
 get him to take his supplements.  He's on an immune system supplement 
 that is a tablet I used to mix with the wet food.  Now he won't eat it 
 if I do.  I've tried even mixing it in tuna and he won't eat it.  So 
 I'm in a little bit of a state over this.  he is also on interferon 7 
 days on and 7 days off.  I've also had some problems with this lately 
 as he seems to throw up on the days that I give him interferon.   He's 
 had a kidney infection he's overcome.  he has had pancreatitis that 
 he's overcome, and he's had some fairly chronic upper respiratory 
 infections.  We think he's probably about 4-7 years old.  He came to me 
 when he was between 2-5 we think.  I think he was dumped because he has 
 such a love of humans.  He's a big (15 lbs now) lapcat.  He loves to be 
 petted.  He loves to be around people.  He follows me every step I 
 take, if the dog will let him.  His only stress is the Mini Schnauzer 
 who is 12 and has epilepsy :-)  She hates him.  He just tries to stay 
 out of her way. (She sleeps on the bed at the foot and he sleeps up at 
 the head, by my head!)  Every time he sneezes I worry.  But he's 
 hanging in there so far, and as far as I can tell he is prospering.  He 
 has had rabies vaccine and calici virus in the past but I don't know if 
 we'll do rabies this year since he isn't outside now.  I'll have to 
 talk to my vet about that and the calici too.
 
 Sidney and the General
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 6:01 am
 Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one 
 to better undertsand FeLV.
 
 
 
 Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or 
 past FeLV
 kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and 
 how
 everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could 
 participate!
 AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU 
 DO/ARE
 DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, 
 E.G; INDOOR,
 OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY 
 OTHER
 ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? 
 OR WHEN
 THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering 
 would be
 really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and 
 your fur
 babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan.
 ___
 Felvtalk mailing list
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 http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-03-06 Thread dlgegg
 and calici virus in the past but I don't know if we'll do  
  rabies this year since he isn't outside now.  I'll have to talk to  
  my vet about that and the calici too.
 
  Sidney and the General
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 6:01 am
  Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal  
  one to better undertsand FeLV.
 
 
 
  Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and  
  or past FeLV
  kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness  
  and how
  everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could  
  participate!
  AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID  
  YOU DO/ARE
  DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD,  
  E.G; INDOOR,
  OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE  
  ANY OTHER
  ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT  
  NOW? OR WHEN
  THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in  
  answering would be
  really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and  
  your fur
  babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan.
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-03-06 Thread gary
Heard of it, and it is WAAAY too expensive.  You can buy a pound of powder
lysine for about $15, it is made by NOW and sold in many online places..
That would give you about 1644 250mg doses.  It has no taste and mixed with
wet food just about any cat will just eat it.  It is really sort of
granulated and some of mine don't like the feel so I dissolve it in a tiny
bit of water.

Gary

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Jane Lyons
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one
to better undertsand FeLV.

on the L-Lysine, my vet ordered an oral paste for me.  no one is sick right
now, but i give it as a preventative.  name is Enisyl-F, made by Vetoquinol
in Canada.  each ml contains 250mgof L Lysine HCL in a bse of purified
water, sorbitol, cod liver oil, zanthan gum, tuna flavor, soy lecithin,
silica aerogel, carmel color, potassium sorbate and sodium benzoate.   they
reccomend 1 - 2 ml a day for adults and 1ml for kittens.  anyone heard of
this before?  got any comments?  dorlis
 Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com wrote: 
 Hi Sidney
 The General sounds like a fabulous cat. It is great that he persisted.
 Are you using l-lycine as a supplement? I was able to get rid of a  
 really
 bad upper respiratory with it. I buy it in capsule form and mix the  
 powder
 into cats food and my cat, who could be a forensic pathologist when  
 it comes to
 detecting supplements, does not know it is there. I make sure she  
 gets 500mg
 daily and although it takes time, it usually works.
 
 I also use interferon, but give it on and off each day, rather than  
 weeks. I wonder
 if that would make a difference.
 
 There is a study underway (Dr. Jean Dodds ..Rabies Challenge) to  
 prove that we over vaccinate
 our animals and that one rabies shot should protect an animal for its  
 lifetime. You can Google
 the 'rabies challenge' and read about the study and the vets who are  
 involved. A rabies shot
 can be stressful for a healthy animal. I would think twice about  
 vaccinating an Felv kittie.
 
 Hope your General continues to thrive.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 On Feb 7, 2009, at 9:17 AM, souther...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
  AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID  
  YOU DO/ARE
  DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD,  
  E.G; INDOOR,
  OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE  
  ANY OTHER
  ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT  
  NOW? OR WHEN
  THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF?
 
  My big boy, General Sterling Price, came to me.  I have never owned  
  a cat in my life.  I was working in my flowers in April 2007 when  
  this big black tuxedo cat came and CLIMBED ON MY BACK.  I was not  
  happy.  I tried to shoo him away.  He was having none of it.  He  
  was like a bag of bones.  And he cried so pitifully that I went and  
  got him a bowl of milk (I didn't know cats weren't supposed to have  
  milk any more than dogs are!)  He drank it down so I got him  
  another, which he drank down.  The next day he was still out  
  there.  So I brought him dog food out (it's all I had) and he ate  
  the entire bowl.  So the next day, when he was still there, I  
  bought him a sack of some sort of cat food at the grocery.  He ate  
  it of course.  After 3 weeks of doing this I decided that if he was  
  gonna hang around, then he was gonna be neutered.  So I took him to  
  the vet.  He did the required blood tests and said this cat is FeLV 
  +.  You might as well have him put to sleep as he's gonna die  
  anyway.  By then I had developed an attachment to him, so I changed  
  vets. (I now take him to the Nashville Cat Clinic)  This boy went  
  from living outside to living in the garage to now living in the  
  house and sleeping in the bed with the Mini Schnauzer who hates him  
  and my husband and me.  He has some really strange eating habits  
  these days.  He won't eat any one food for long.  My vet wants him  
  on grain free canned but he's not willing to eat that right now.   
  He is now eating Evo dry and Halo dry.  He'll eat one for 2-3 days  
  and then he won't eat it and I'll change.  The only problem I have  
  is that I can no longer get him to take his supplements.  He's on  
  an immune system supplement that is a tablet I used to mix with the  
  wet food.  Now he won't eat it if I do.  I've tried even mixing it  
  in tuna and he won't eat it.  So I'm in a little bit of a state  
  over this.  he is also on interferon 7 days on and 7 days off.   
  I've also had some problems with this lately as he seems to throw  
  up on the days that I give him interferon.   He's had a kidney  
  infection he's overcome.  he has had pancreatitis that he's  
  overcome, and he's had some fairly chronic

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-03-06 Thread Laurieskatz
You can also buy in pill form and crush it yourself. This is the least
expensive way. 
Mine also like Viralys which is a flavored powder and about 3 times as
expensive as the pills.
Laurie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 9:00 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one
to better undertsand FeLV.

Heard of it, and it is WAAAY too expensive.  You can buy a pound of powder
lysine for about $15, it is made by NOW and sold in many online places..
That would give you about 1644 250mg doses.  It has no taste and mixed with
wet food just about any cat will just eat it.  It is really sort of
granulated and some of mine don't like the feel so I dissolve it in a tiny
bit of water.

Gary

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Friday, March 06, 2009 8:42 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: Jane Lyons
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one
to better undertsand FeLV.

on the L-Lysine, my vet ordered an oral paste for me.  no one is sick right
now, but i give it as a preventative.  name is Enisyl-F, made by Vetoquinol
in Canada.  each ml contains 250mgof L Lysine HCL in a bse of purified
water, sorbitol, cod liver oil, zanthan gum, tuna flavor, soy lecithin,
silica aerogel, carmel color, potassium sorbate and sodium benzoate.   they
reccomend 1 - 2 ml a day for adults and 1ml for kittens.  anyone heard of
this before?  got any comments?  dorlis
 Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com wrote: 
 Hi Sidney
 The General sounds like a fabulous cat. It is great that he persisted.
 Are you using l-lycine as a supplement? I was able to get rid of a  
 really
 bad upper respiratory with it. I buy it in capsule form and mix the  
 powder
 into cats food and my cat, who could be a forensic pathologist when  
 it comes to
 detecting supplements, does not know it is there. I make sure she  
 gets 500mg
 daily and although it takes time, it usually works.
 
 I also use interferon, but give it on and off each day, rather than  
 weeks. I wonder
 if that would make a difference.
 
 There is a study underway (Dr. Jean Dodds ..Rabies Challenge) to  
 prove that we over vaccinate
 our animals and that one rabies shot should protect an animal for its  
 lifetime. You can Google
 the 'rabies challenge' and read about the study and the vets who are  
 involved. A rabies shot
 can be stressful for a healthy animal. I would think twice about  
 vaccinating an Felv kittie.
 
 Hope your General continues to thrive.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 On Feb 7, 2009, at 9:17 AM, souther...@aol.com wrote:
 
 
 
 
  AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID  
  YOU DO/ARE
  DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD,  
  E.G; INDOOR,
  OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE  
  ANY OTHER
  ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT  
  NOW? OR WHEN
  THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF?
 
  My big boy, General Sterling Price, came to me.  I have never owned  
  a cat in my life.  I was working in my flowers in April 2007 when  
  this big black tuxedo cat came and CLIMBED ON MY BACK.  I was not  
  happy.  I tried to shoo him away.  He was having none of it.  He  
  was like a bag of bones.  And he cried so pitifully that I went and  
  got him a bowl of milk (I didn't know cats weren't supposed to have  
  milk any more than dogs are!)  He drank it down so I got him  
  another, which he drank down.  The next day he was still out  
  there.  So I brought him dog food out (it's all I had) and he ate  
  the entire bowl.  So the next day, when he was still there, I  
  bought him a sack of some sort of cat food at the grocery.  He ate  
  it of course.  After 3 weeks of doing this I decided that if he was  
  gonna hang around, then he was gonna be neutered.  So I took him to  
  the vet.  He did the required blood tests and said this cat is FeLV 
  +.  You might as well have him put to sleep as he's gonna die  
  anyway.  By then I had developed an attachment to him, so I changed  
  vets. (I now take him to the Nashville Cat Clinic)  This boy went  
  from living outside to living in the garage to now living in the  
  house and sleeping in the bed with the Mini Schnauzer who hates him  
  and my husband and me.  He has some really strange eating habits  
  these days.  He won't eat any one food for long.  My vet wants him  
  on grain free canned but he's not willing to eat that right now.   
  He is now eating Evo dry and Halo dry.  He'll eat one for 2-3 days  
  and then he won't eat it and I'll change.  The only problem I have  
  is that I can no longer get him to take his supplements.  He's on  
  an immune system supplement

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-02-09 Thread southernes



he General sounds like a fabulous cat. It is great that he persisted.

Are you using l-lycine as a supplement?

Thanks, he is a really special guy. He's won all of us non-cat people 
in the family over (except the dog, and she still hate him). I know of 
Dr. Dodds from having an epileptic dog :-) I didn't realize that she 
was involved with cats as well.


I'm going to talk to my vet this year about the vaccinations.  I don't 
have my dog vaccinated any longer, and since General is now an inside 
cat, I don't really see the need for him to be vaccinated.


Sidney

-Original Message-
From: Jane Lyons j.ly...@mindspring.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sat, 7 Feb 2009 8:59 am
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal 
one to better undertsand FeLV.










Hi Sidney

The General sounds like a fabulous cat. It is great that he persisted.

Are you using l-lycine as a supplement? I was able to get rid of a 
really


bad upper respiratory with it. I buy it in capsule form and mix the 
powder


into cats food and my cat, who could be a forensic pathologist when it 
comes to


detecting supplements, does not know it is there. I make sure she gets 
500mg


daily and although it takes time, it usually works.


I also use interferon, but give it on and off each day, rather than 
weeks. I wonder


if that would make a difference.


There is a study underway (Dr. Jean Dodds ..Rabies Challenge) to prove 
that we over vaccinate


our animals and that one rabies shot should protect an animal for its 
lifetime. You can Google


the 'rabies challenge' and read about the study and the vets who are 
involved. A rabies shot


can be stressful for a healthy animal. I would think twice about 
vaccinating an Felv kittie.



Hope your General continues to thrive.


Jane




On Feb 7, 2009, at 9:17 AM, souther...@aol.com wrote:














AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID  

YOU DO/ARE

DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD,  

E.G; INDOOR,

OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE  

ANY OTHER

ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT  

NOW? OR WHEN


THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF?






My big boy, General Sterling Price, came to me.  I have never owned  
a cat in my life.  I was working in my flowers in April 2007 when  
this big black tuxedo cat came and CLIMBED ON MY BACK.  I was not  
happy.  I tried to shoo him away.  He was having none of it.  He  was 
like a bag of bones.  And he cried so pitifully that I went and  got 
him a bowl of milk (I didn't know cats weren't supposed to have  milk 
any more than dogs are!)  He drank it down so I got him  another, 
which he drank down.  The next day he was still out  there.  So I 
brought him dog food out (it's all I had) and he ate  the entire bowl. 
 So the next day, when he was still there, I  bought him a sack of 
some sort of cat food at the grocery.  He ate  it of course.  After 3 
weeks of doing this I decided that if he was  gonna hang around, then 
he was gonna be neutered.  So I took him to  the vet.  He did the 
required blood tests and said this cat is FeLV +.  You might as well 
have him put to sleep as he's gonna die  anyway.  By then I had 
developed an attachment to him, so I changed  vets. (I now take him to 
the Nashville Cat Clinic)  This boy went  from living outside to 
living in the garage to now living in the  house and sleeping in the 
bed with the Mini Schnauzer who hates him  and my husband and me.  He 
has some really strange eating habits  these days.  He won't eat any 
one food for long.  My vet wants him  on grain free canned but he's 
not willing to eat that right now.   He is now eating Evo dry and Halo 
dry.  He'll eat one for 2-3 days  and then he won't eat it and I'll 
change.  The only problem I have  is that I can no longer get him to 
take his supplements.  He's on  an immune system supplement that is a 
tablet I used to mix with the  wet food.  Now he won't eat it if I do. 
 I've tried even mixing it  in tuna and he won't eat it.  So I'm in a 
little bit of a state  over this.  he is also on interferon 7 days on 
and 7 days off.   I've also had some problems with this lately as he 
seems to throw  up on the days that I give him interferon.   He's had 
a kidney  infection he's overcome.  he has had pancreatitis that he's 
 overcome, and he's had some fairly chronic upper respiratory  
infections.  We think he's probably about 4-7 years old.  He came  to 
me when he was between 2-5 we think.  I think he was dumped  because 
he has such a love of humans.  He's a big (15 lbs now)  lapcat.  He 
loves to be petted.  He loves to be around people.  He  follows me 
every step I take, if the dog will let him.  His only  stress is the 
Mini Schnauzer who is 12 and has epilepsy :-)  She  hates him.  He 
just tries to stay out of her way. (She sleeps on  the bed at the foot 
and he sleeps

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-02-09 Thread gary
L-lysine is not a general immune booster, it is primarily effective against
herpes virus (which sometimes causes URI like symptoms and runny eyes) by
suppressing the L-arginine that herpes virus needs in order to replicate.
I'm not saying it doesn't do anything else, I just haven't seen anything
that shows that it does.  But, since it won't do any harm, I suppose giving
it couldn't hurt.  I would suggest buying the 1 lb. jar of powdered lysine
made by NOW, a lot easier to use and less expensive than capsules.  The jar
contains 822 500mg doses.

Gary

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Sent: Monday, February 09, 2009 8:46 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one
to better undertsand FeLV.



he General sounds like a fabulous cat. It is great that he persisted.

Are you using l-lycine as a supplement?

Thanks, he is a really special guy. He's won all of us non-cat people 
in the family over (except the dog, and she still hate him). I know of 
Dr. Dodds from having an epileptic dog :-) I didn't realize that she 
was involved with cats as well.

I'm going to talk to my vet this year about the vaccinations.  I don't 
have my dog vaccinated any longer, and since General is now an inside 
cat, I don't really see the need for him to be vaccinated.

Sidney



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2009-02-08 Thread TANYA NOE
We adopted our cat Maggie when she was 8 weeks or so old. She was a happy 
healthy kitten until about 6-7 weeks later. She had gingivitis and diarrhea and 
her lymph nodes were the size of large grapes. We had he tested ( she was 
tested before we brought her home and she was negative) she tested positive 
this time on the ELISA test. We immediately tested our 12 year old cat Sasha 
and she was negative. 12 weeks later we tested her again and she was still 
positive so we had an IFA test done to see if it had progressed into her bone 
marrow. Sad to say it has, it was a very strong positive. 
We feed her soft food by pro plan and hard purina kitten chow.
Our cats are strictly indoors.
She lives with Sasha still who thank God is still negative.
Maggie's main symptoms are diarrhea (lots of diarrhea), sneezing, vomiting, 
swollen lymph nodes, painful gums/teeth.
She seems happy and as long as that is the case she will continue to have a 
home here with us no matter how many messes I have to clean up a week.
She takes Tylan powder for her diarrhea which seems to help alot. Her vet is 
not that experienced at dealing with FELV positive cats so I have been getting 
alot of ideas from everyone's emails.
Hope this helps
Tanya


--- On Fri, 2/6/09, amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp wrote:

 From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp
 Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to 
 better undertsand FeLV.
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 6:01 AM
 Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your
 present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey
 to better understand the illness and how everything effects
 it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate!
  AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT
 TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED?
 WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH
 ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY
 OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE
 IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So
 sorry, but your time in answering would be really
 appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and
 your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. 
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2009-02-08 Thread Lisa Borden
 

Tommy tested positive at 3 1/2 months old.  

He is seeing a holistic vet, who gave him Vetri-DMG (an immune
system booster) and a homeopathic mixture of antivirals. The
homeopathic meds are Galium and Engystol. His holistic vet
recommended that I get him vaccinated one more time (which I did) for
FVRCPC, and then NO MORE vaccines. Definitely not rabies, as it is a
live virus. 

He is eating Solid Gold Indigo Moon, a grain-free holistic food. He
also gets canned food twice a day. 

Tommy is an indoor kitty, and lives with my two negative cats. I
decided not to separate them after talking with the wonderful people
on this list because the exposure had already taken place, and
separation would have been too stressful for all of them and me! 

He has not shown any signs of illness, other than he has had loose,
smelly stools. I am trying a new supplement for that. He was neutered
on 1/29 which I was afraid would be a stress to him, but he did really
well! He is a happy, healthy, 6 month old kitten. :) In fact, I plan
to have him retested in about a month.
 --- On Fri, 2/6/09, amanda  wrote:
  From: amanda 
  Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal
one to better undertsand FeLV.
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org [3]
  Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 6:01 AM
  Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your
  present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey
  to better understand the illness and how everything effects
  it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate!
  AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT
  TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED?
  WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH
  ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY
  OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE
  IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So
  sorry, but your time in answering would be really
  appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and
  your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-02-08 Thread Jane Lyons

Hi Tonya
Maggie's symptoms sound identical to the ones we were dealing with  
two years ago.
We used so many supplements and remedies that I am not sure what did  
what, but two
years later we have a kittie who seems happy and healthy with the  
exception of her

mouth, which somedays seems irritated and somedays, not.

Here are the things we used:
l-lycine for the viral symptoms (upper respiratory). You can get it  
at a health food store. I used
500mg capsules which I opened and sprinkled into her wet food twice a  
day.


DMG Liquid which is a formula designed to boost her immune system. We  
gave her a dose daily.


Forti-Flora is a probiotic that helped her get rid of diarrhea and  
supposedly is an overall boost

for her immunity.

We also tried to find the best quality cat food that she would  
tolerate. We wound up feeding her

Petguard which is available at Whole Foods.

Since we were able to get rid of her symptoms we are now giving her  
interferon every other day,
hoping to keep her immunity up and enable her to fight off secondary  
infections.


As we've all learned, there isn't a magic pill and every kittie  
reacts differently. I hope Maggie is able
to get rid of her symptoms and continue to enjoy the love and care  
you've given to her.


Jane



On Feb 8, 2009, at 11:01 AM, TANYA NOE wrote:

We adopted our cat Maggie when she was 8 weeks or so old. She was a  
happy healthy kitten until about 6-7 weeks later. She had  
gingivitis and diarrhea and her lymph nodes were the size of large  
grapes. We had he tested ( she was tested before we brought her  
home and she was negative) she tested positive this time on the  
ELISA test. We immediately tested our 12 year old cat Sasha and she  
was negative. 12 weeks later we tested her again and she was still  
positive so we had an IFA test done to see if it had progressed  
into her bone marrow. Sad to say it has, it was a very strong  
positive.

We feed her soft food by pro plan and hard purina kitten chow.
Our cats are strictly indoors.
She lives with Sasha still who thank God is still negative.
Maggie's main symptoms are diarrhea (lots of diarrhea), sneezing,  
vomiting, swollen lymph nodes, painful gums/teeth.
She seems happy and as long as that is the case she will continue  
to have a home here with us no matter how many messes I have to  
clean up a week.
She takes Tylan powder for her diarrhea which seems to help alot.  
Her vet is not that experienced at dealing with FELV positive cats  
so I have been getting alot of ideas from everyone's emails.

Hope this helps
Tanya


--- On Fri, 2/6/09, amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp wrote:


From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal  
one to better undertsand FeLV.

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 6:01 AM
Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your
present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey
to better understand the illness and how everything effects
it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate!
 AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT
TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED?
WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH
? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY
OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE
IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So
sorry, but your time in answering would be really
appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and
your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan.
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-02-07 Thread southernes




AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU 
DO/ARE
DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, 
E.G; INDOOR,
OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY 
OTHER
ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? 
OR WHEN

THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF?

My big boy, General Sterling Price, came to me.  I have never owned a 
cat in my life.  I was working in my flowers in April 2007 when this 
big black tuxedo cat came and CLIMBED ON MY BACK.  I was not happy.  I 
tried to shoo him away.  He was having none of it.  He was like a bag 
of bones.  And he cried so pitifully that I went and got him a bowl of 
milk (I didn't know cats weren't supposed to have milk any more than 
dogs are!)  He drank it down so I got him another, which he drank down. 
 The next day he was still out there.  So I brought him dog food out 
(it's all I had) and he ate the entire bowl.  So the next day, when he 
was still there, I bought him a sack of some sort of cat food at the 
grocery.  He ate it of course.  After 3 weeks of doing this I decided 
that if he was gonna hang around, then he was gonna be neutered.  So I 
took him to the vet.  He did the required blood tests and said this cat 
is FeLV+.  You might as well have him put to sleep as he's gonna die 
anyway.  By then I had developed an attachment to him, so I changed 
vets. (I now take him to the Nashville Cat Clinic)  This boy went from 
living outside to living in the garage to now living in the house and 
sleeping in the bed with the Mini Schnauzer who hates him and my 
husband and me.  He has some really strange eating habits these days.  
He won't eat any one food for long.  My vet wants him on grain free 
canned but he's not willing to eat that right now.  He is now eating 
Evo dry and Halo dry.  He'll eat one for 2-3 days and then he won't eat 
it and I'll change.  The only problem I have is that I can no longer 
get him to take his supplements.  He's on an immune system supplement 
that is a tablet I used to mix with the wet food.  Now he won't eat it 
if I do.  I've tried even mixing it in tuna and he won't eat it.  So 
I'm in a little bit of a state over this.  he is also on interferon 7 
days on and 7 days off.  I've also had some problems with this lately 
as he seems to throw up on the days that I give him interferon.   He's 
had a kidney infection he's overcome.  he has had pancreatitis that 
he's overcome, and he's had some fairly chronic upper respiratory 
infections.  We think he's probably about 4-7 years old.  He came to me 
when he was between 2-5 we think.  I think he was dumped because he has 
such a love of humans.  He's a big (15 lbs now) lapcat.  He loves to be 
petted.  He loves to be around people.  He follows me every step I 
take, if the dog will let him.  His only stress is the Mini Schnauzer 
who is 12 and has epilepsy :-)  She hates him.  He just tries to stay 
out of her way. (She sleeps on the bed at the foot and he sleeps up at 
the head, by my head!)  Every time he sneezes I worry.  But he's 
hanging in there so far, and as far as I can tell he is prospering.  He 
has had rabies vaccine and calici virus in the past but I don't know if 
we'll do rabies this year since he isn't outside now.  I'll have to 
talk to my vet about that and the calici too.


Sidney and the General


-Original Message-
From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 6:01 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one 
to better undertsand FeLV.




Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or 
past FeLV
kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness and 
how
everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could 
participate!
AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU 
DO/ARE
DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, 
E.G; INDOOR,
OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY 
OTHER
ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? 
OR WHEN
THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering 
would be
really appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and 
your fur

babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan.
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-02-07 Thread Jane Lyons

Hi Sidney
The General sounds like a fabulous cat. It is great that he persisted.
Are you using l-lycine as a supplement? I was able to get rid of a  
really
bad upper respiratory with it. I buy it in capsule form and mix the  
powder
into cats food and my cat, who could be a forensic pathologist when  
it comes to
detecting supplements, does not know it is there. I make sure she  
gets 500mg

daily and although it takes time, it usually works.

I also use interferon, but give it on and off each day, rather than  
weeks. I wonder

if that would make a difference.

There is a study underway (Dr. Jean Dodds ..Rabies Challenge) to  
prove that we over vaccinate
our animals and that one rabies shot should protect an animal for its  
lifetime. You can Google
the 'rabies challenge' and read about the study and the vets who are  
involved. A rabies shot
can be stressful for a healthy animal. I would think twice about  
vaccinating an Felv kittie.


Hope your General continues to thrive.

Jane



On Feb 7, 2009, at 9:17 AM, souther...@aol.com wrote:





AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID  
YOU DO/ARE
DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD,  
E.G; INDOOR,
OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE  
ANY OTHER
ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT  
NOW? OR WHEN

THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF?

My big boy, General Sterling Price, came to me.  I have never owned  
a cat in my life.  I was working in my flowers in April 2007 when  
this big black tuxedo cat came and CLIMBED ON MY BACK.  I was not  
happy.  I tried to shoo him away.  He was having none of it.  He  
was like a bag of bones.  And he cried so pitifully that I went and  
got him a bowl of milk (I didn't know cats weren't supposed to have  
milk any more than dogs are!)  He drank it down so I got him  
another, which he drank down.  The next day he was still out  
there.  So I brought him dog food out (it's all I had) and he ate  
the entire bowl.  So the next day, when he was still there, I  
bought him a sack of some sort of cat food at the grocery.  He ate  
it of course.  After 3 weeks of doing this I decided that if he was  
gonna hang around, then he was gonna be neutered.  So I took him to  
the vet.  He did the required blood tests and said this cat is FeLV 
+.  You might as well have him put to sleep as he's gonna die  
anyway.  By then I had developed an attachment to him, so I changed  
vets. (I now take him to the Nashville Cat Clinic)  This boy went  
from living outside to living in the garage to now living in the  
house and sleeping in the bed with the Mini Schnauzer who hates him  
and my husband and me.  He has some really strange eating habits  
these days.  He won't eat any one food for long.  My vet wants him  
on grain free canned but he's not willing to eat that right now.   
He is now eating Evo dry and Halo dry.  He'll eat one for 2-3 days  
and then he won't eat it and I'll change.  The only problem I have  
is that I can no longer get him to take his supplements.  He's on  
an immune system supplement that is a tablet I used to mix with the  
wet food.  Now he won't eat it if I do.  I've tried even mixing it  
in tuna and he won't eat it.  So I'm in a little bit of a state  
over this.  he is also on interferon 7 days on and 7 days off.   
I've also had some problems with this lately as he seems to throw  
up on the days that I give him interferon.   He's had a kidney  
infection he's overcome.  he has had pancreatitis that he's  
overcome, and he's had some fairly chronic upper respiratory  
infections.  We think he's probably about 4-7 years old.  He came  
to me when he was between 2-5 we think.  I think he was dumped  
because he has such a love of humans.  He's a big (15 lbs now)  
lapcat.  He loves to be petted.  He loves to be around people.  He  
follows me every step I take, if the dog will let him.  His only  
stress is the Mini Schnauzer who is 12 and has epilepsy :-)  She  
hates him.  He just tries to stay out of her way. (She sleeps on  
the bed at the foot and he sleeps up at the head, by my head!)   
Every time he sneezes I worry.  But he's hanging in there so far,  
and as far as I can tell he is prospering.  He has had rabies  
vaccine and calici virus in the past but I don't know if we'll do  
rabies this year since he isn't outside now.  I'll have to talk to  
my vet about that and the calici too.


Sidney and the General


-Original Message-
From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Fri, 6 Feb 2009 6:01 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal  
one to better undertsand FeLV.




Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and  
or past FeLV
kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the illness  
and how
everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you all could  
participate

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-02-07 Thread Tracey

Amanda,

Abbey was found outside a factory, starving and very sick. Took her directly 
to get felv test and was positive at approx. 9 months old and was 4 lbs. She 
had extreme diahhrea (w/ blood in it), yeast in ears, fleas, worms, and 
terrible breath (she has none of her incisors).  She may have been living in 
a feral colony, her ear is tipped. I nursed her back to health, tried 
fortiflora for her diahhrea, which did not work.  Was put on antibiotics for 
it. She was sneezing quite often with lots of discharge.


She has been eating homemade raw chicken/bones diet for 4 months and 
diarhhea no longer exists. She has a luxurious coat.


She's been taking l-lysine and Transfer Factor (colostrum) for 3 months now, 
and sneezing is very minimal now.  She used to cough when she purrs deeply, 
but doesn't do that very often anymore.  I also give her Petzlife Oral gel 
twice a week for her teeth.  She seems to be the picture of health except 
for being a little fat from overfeeding when I first got her, since I tried 
to give her all the food she wanted so she could put on weight.


She lives in a spacious bathroom, and seems extremely happy and content 
there.  Lately I've beeen allowing my 3 other cats to visit her and she 
really likes them (although they are still unsure of her).  I don't allow 
any prolonged contact between them.  I really want to mix, but am still 
unsure.  Her stress is very low.  I am beginning to let her come into the 
hall and maybe will let her gradually come out to the rest of the house when 
my other cats go outside.  She is approximately 1 yr 3 months now.


Tracey




- Original Message - 
From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:01 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part,just a personal one to 
better undertsand FeLV.



Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or 
past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the 
illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you 
all could participate!  AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? 
WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT 
LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER 
CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN 
LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID 
THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really 
appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur 
babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan.

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-02-06 Thread Sue Frank Koren
Amanda,
My FeLV+ kittys:
Buzzy - My first positive, he was adopted in January of '08 at about one year 
old. He had tested negative for feline leukemia in November of '07, but tested 
positive shortly after he was adopted. From the time I had him he was fed 
Wellness. He had been abused when he lived on the streets before my sister in 
law found him, and he was a very nervous kitty. I will always believe that if 
he had a more laid-back temperment he would have lived longer. Buzz was 
diagnosed with anemia in July of '08. He was brought out of it with Doxycycline 
and Prednesolone, but it came back in October and and the meds were no longer 
working. I lost him the week before Thanksgiving.

Orlando - I adopted him in July of '08 at 10 years old. He had been living in a 
barn with about 20 other cats that a woman owned. When she passed away a local 
no-kill shelter took him in along with all the others. About half of those cats 
tested positive at that time. He lived in the FeLV/FIV room of that sanctuary 
from January of '08 until I adopted him. He also eats Wellness mixed with extra 
water and Lysine. He gets a Cosequin tablet mixed in his food morning and 
evening. He is a very sweet laid-back no stress kind of cat. He once had a 
broken leg that did not heal right, so he has a crooked leg. Other then that he 
seems to be in excellent health. Maybe too fat. (Definitely too fat.)

Tweezer - A local rescue group was keeping him in a cage when they found out 
that I have positive and negative cats mixed and free to roam the house. They 
asked me if I would take him, and when I found out he had been living in a cage 
for months, I adopted him. He is now approx. 2 1/2 years old. I brought him 
home on Sept.17th of '08. He weighed 3 1/2 lbs and felt like a skeleton. He had 
an upper resperatory infection, weepy eyes, ear mites, a tapeworm and was so 
weak he couldn't climb up one stair. I still can't believe the director of that 
group allowed him to be in such horrible shape. Anyway, he was put on Wellness 
mixed with water and Lysine and began to gain weight very quickly. He was on 
several runs of Doxycycline and other antibiotics and has continued to improve. 
Today he weights approx. 8 1/2 lbs. He has one mildly cloudy eye that the vet 
says is a cataract due to being malnourished as a kitten. His URI comes back 
now and then and gets so bad that he sneezes blood. He is once again on a round 
of Doxycycline. The great thing about this cat is his amazing love of life. He 
is the happiest little guy I have ever seen. He is so very happy to be out of a 
cage and feeling good.

My two positives live with five negative cats who are all vaccinated against 
feline leukemia. All are indoor cats. I would like to put my positives on some 
kind of immunity boosting/vitamin supplement, but with so many making claims 
out there I am unsure what to trust. I know this was long, but I hope it helps. 
Sue

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-02-06 Thread Sharyl
Amanda,
I feed a dumpster colony of cats.  I have spayed/neutered 8 of the these cats 
and kept 7.  Of the 7 six have tested FeLV+ more than once using the ELISHA 
test.  These 6 were kittens ranging in age from 4 weeks to 12 weeks of age when 
I rescued them.   I lost Bright Eyes at 7 months from FeLV.  Three are now 8 
months old and the other 2 are 14 months old.  

The babies get kitten canned and dry.  The older 2 now eat Fancy Feast.  They 
refused to eat any of the 'higher' quality canned.  

All received DMG, Lactoferrin, B12. B-Complex, L-Lysine, and folic acid.  The 
babies still get the supplements.  The older 2 refuse to eat canned food with 
the supplements added.  Who would of thought dumpster kitties would get picky 
about their food.

All are strictly indoor kitties.  My negative kitties have been vaccinated and 
show no ill affects from mixing.  All my cats have been neutered/spayed.

I doubt you will find a trend.  I think you will find the results of what we do 
for these babies is really based on a low stress environment, good nutrition, 
love and luck.  Otherwise why would 5 be thriving while Bright Eyes died.

By the way I have 3 calico kittens I just rescued this week waiting to be 
spayed this week end.  They had a different Mom from my other rescues so I am 
optimistic they will be negative.
Sharyl Sissy Rocket Mattie CJ Houdini and Angel Bright Eyes


--- On Fri, 2/6/09, amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp wrote:

 From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp
 Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to 
 better undertsand FeLV.
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Friday, February 6, 2009, 6:01 AM
 Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your
 present and or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey
 to better understand the illness and how everything effects
 it, I would be really grateful if you all could participate!
  AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT
 TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED?
 WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH
 ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY
 OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE
 IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So
 sorry, but your time in answering would be really
 appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and
 your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-02-06 Thread Pat Kachur
I do not know what age Mandy became leukemia-positive.  I adopted her at age 
6 and she was positive at that time.  She has no symptoms so I am doing no 
treatments at this time.  My 7 cats are all strictly indoor--the other 6 are 
vaccinated and interact with Mandy.  In two years, no one has gotten sick.


Mandy also has had a UTI so is strictly fed Prescription CD or ID, both wet 
and dry.  She is a very small cat but eats like one twice her size.


Mandy is 7 right now.  From looking at her, you would not know she is ill.


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From: amanda white-dai...@lapis.plala.or.jp

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 6:01 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part,just a personal one to 
better undertsand FeLV.



Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and or 
past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand the 
illness and how everything effects it, I would be really grateful if you 
all could participate!  AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? 
WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT 
LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR, OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER 
CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN 
LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID 
THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but your time in answering would be really 
appreciated! thanks so much! hugs and good health to you and your fur 
babies, Amanda, Tora and Angel Silver chan.

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2009-02-06 Thread nancy denison
I have seven cats, the youngest being Taz was diagnosed with FeLv when she 
started getting sick after about 1 month with my other negative kitties all of 
which are vacinated.  I took Taz in to get her looked at and to get her shots.  
That's when they tested her for FeLv and she came back positive.  I feed her 
stinky salmon and white tuna, some Fancy Feast kitten food and some baby food, 
whatever I can get her to eat.  She hates the Science Diet the vet recommended. 
 I'va also boiled chicken for her for the broth and meat.  I've had her on 
Imulan and have seen some mixed results but she is gaining weight, happy and 
bouncy so I'm continuing with the expensive treatments.  She also get Pet Tinic 
everyday and DMG.  I've seperated her from my other cats, which I hate because 
she was buddies with my three legged tuxedo kitty, but this was recommended by 
the vet.  She said that vacinations are not a guarantee against the disease if 
the cats are exposed to it enough. All of my kitties are indoor kitties except 
one does get outdoor roaming priviledges because it gives him a better 
attitude.  The rest of the cats get there outdoor stuff on a large screened in 
porch basically built just for them.
It's hard having a FeLv kitty because I travel so much for work which means I 
board her at the vets while I'm gone which of course stresses her some.  The 
people love her at the vet but I think it directly affects her wellness with 
regard to the blood work-up and down.
Sorry for the long diatribe.  

Nancy
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-02-06 Thread Jane Lyons




Hi Pat
This is our story.
We adopted MeMe as a one year old from a pretty horrible hoarding  
situation.
She was pretty sick at the time ...very bad URI, diarrhea, swollen  
glands, stomatitis etc.
Although the 'shelter' told us she was negative for Felv, our vet  
suspected she was positive

as she was unable to recover from her symptoms.

She tested positive on both tests and when I recovered from the shock  
of this dreaded disease
I joined this list and with the help of some really wonderful people  
began to search for a way to
help her. My homeopathic vet came up with a remedy that was being  
used to treat HIV/Aids victims in
Africa with some success (thullium met). Along with the homeopathic  
remedy we began supplements
and weaned her off commercial cat food to a better quality and  
sometimes raw food. It took a while, but over a
period of time she recovered  with the exception of her mouth which  
is sometimes sore.
She is now three years old and seems very happy and 'healthy'. We now  
give her selected supplements and interferon

every other day.
She is a wonderful, loving and very 'gifted' cat. Every day that she  
is with us is a gift.

If you have any questions, please ask

Jane


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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-02-06 Thread Cougar Clan

This is Dixie's story:

For reasons unknown, a little grey full grown female came to my Mom's  
and began eating with the ferals she feeds and staying in a rubbermaid  
box I had outfitted as a shelter.  I decided she should be a farm cat  
at my farm when I got the house built.  I took her to Louisville to my  
long time vets at Middletown Animal Clinic to be spayed.  They tested  
her for FeLV and, when they called to break the news, we decided to  
board her there until I could figure things out.  She could not be  
released into the colony.  Her teeth were the only symptom that showed  
and they were not bad.  I made arrangements for her to stay in the  
garage at my Mom's and eventually took her and the Royal Princess  
Kitty Katt (who was terminally ill with cancer) to a trailer where we  
lived for a while.  After I decided that Dixie could not be killed (I  
had no experience with FeLV+ and was lucky to find this group), I took  
her to Dr. Betty Boswell, DMV,  a holistic vet who had treated several  
of my four legged friends--the doctors at MAC had originally sent me  
to her with a beagle and knew I was taking Dixie).  Betty  put Dixie  
on lots of supplements and we fed her the best foods available.  After  
the Chinese pet food scar she ate no food that had grains in it.  She  
ate Taste of the Wild, Wellness and Primal Raw.  I realize that some  
think FeLV+ cats should not eat raw diets.  It was the right thing for  
Dixie.  She flourished for three wonderful years in which she had  
everything I could give her.  She had wonderful Christmas trees, every  
toy a cat could want and more, blankets, beds, and, eventually two  
houses, one with a wonderful 400 sq. foot sunroom equipped with lots  
of windows to watch deer, turkey etc through.  She suddenly had an  
abscess on her neck and died within a week or so.  My wonderful little  
lady was on colostrum, lots of veggies chopped into her food (high in  
Vitamin C), various Standard Process supplements, and other things I  
got from Betty or Dr. Susan Maier, another holistic vet.  She was not  
vaccinated for anything after the test came back.  I do not know how  
ld she was when she came into my life but I suspect around 3-4 years.   
I don't know why she was on her own.  She had been spayed and had  
wonderful manners so she may have been dumped.  I don't know but I  
will always be grateful for the time we had together.  A month after  
she left this world, she sent me Copper and two weeks later she sent  
Thomas.  Both of these little guys are FeLV- to the delight of my vets  
at MAC who were high fiving all over the place when the tests came  
back.   Both of the kittens came from the pine thicket that Dixie and  
the Royal Princess Kitty Katt came from so we were all concerned.   
They were extremely small (Copper ran through the links of a chain  
link fence without even sucking his gut in and he was about 8 weeks  
old) and, while their mothers gave them the best care, their mothers  
didn't have the food and care they would have had under ideal  
conditions.  The story of the kittens is wonderful but has nothing to  
do with your questions.  I urge you to find a holistic vet and consult  
that vet along with your regular vets.  Some will consult by phone if  
you cannot locate one.  I do not regret one minute with Dixie Louise.   
She was a perfectly wonderful little lady who was very protective of  
me and very attentive.  Needless to say, I miss my little lady very  
much.  My heart broke into a thousand pieces or more when she died  
laying right beside me in the Jeep that took her on many wonderful  
adventures.  I am grateful for my time with her and grateful that she  
was able to leave this world after leaving the vets and without  
assistance in a place she always felt safe.  She taught me, as did the  
Royal Princess Kitty Katt, to appreciate the time we have and not look  
at what may come.  Everyone dies and everyone dies from something.   
The goal is to live well and be happy.  Each one has to decide what  
that means for himself.  Blessings to you and your little friends.

On Feb 6, 2009, at 5:01 AM, amanda wrote:

Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and  
or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand  
the illness and how everything effects it, I would be really  
grateful if you all could participate!  AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT  
BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT  
FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR,  
OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE  
ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS  
YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but  
your time in answering would be really appreciated! thanks so much!  
hugs and good health to you and your fur babies, Amanda, Tora and  
Angel Silver chan.


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2009-02-06 Thread Cougar Clan
I just re-read your questions.  Dixie Louise was an indoor cat from  
the day she tested positive except for  a few unauthorized walk  
abouts.  When I moved out of my Mom's (I was building a house) and  
into a trailer to provide her a warm winter home Dixie lived with  
Kitty Katt.  Again, Kitty was terminally ill and I was not concerned  
about transmitting the disease to her.  Dixie proved very good for  
Kitty by the way.


While I did everything I could to keep stress down, Dixie's life was  
far from stress free.  I was building a house; we moved into the house  
from the trailer while it was still being worked on (I won't go into  
it but email me before you deal with any log home company); Kitty was  
terminally ill and that was stressful for everyone; the trailer was  
difficult for her; the garage life was difficult for us; she loved to  
travel though so going to our house in Louisville was good for both of  
us.



On Feb 6, 2009, at 4:45 PM, Cougar Clan wrote:


This is Dixie's story:

For reasons unknown, a little grey full grown female came to my  
Mom's and began eating with the ferals she feeds and staying in a  
rubbermaid box I had outfitted as a shelter.  I decided she should  
be a farm cat at my farm when I got the house built.  I took her to  
Louisville to my long time vets at Middletown Animal Clinic to be  
spayed.  They tested her for FeLV and, when they called to break the  
news, we decided to board her there until I could figure things  
out.  She could not be released into the colony.  Her teeth were the  
only symptom that showed and they were not bad.  I made arrangements  
for her to stay in the garage at my Mom's and eventually took her  
and the Royal Princess Kitty Katt (who was terminally ill with  
cancer) to a trailer where we lived for a while.  After I decided  
that Dixie could not be killed (I had no experience with FeLV+ and  
was lucky to find this group), I took her to Dr. Betty Boswell,  
DMV,  a holistic vet who had treated several of my four legged  
friends--the doctors at MAC had originally sent me to her with a  
beagle and knew I was taking Dixie).  Betty  put Dixie on lots of  
supplements and we fed her the best foods available.  After the  
Chinese pet food scar she ate no food that had grains in it.  She  
ate Taste of the Wild, Wellness and Primal Raw.  I realize that some  
think FeLV+ cats should not eat raw diets.  It was the right thing  
for Dixie.  She flourished for three wonderful years in which she  
had everything I could give her.  She had wonderful Christmas trees,  
every toy a cat could want and more, blankets, beds, and, eventually  
two houses, one with a wonderful 400 sq. foot sunroom equipped with  
lots of windows to watch deer, turkey etc through.  She suddenly had  
an abscess on her neck and died within a week or so.  My wonderful  
little lady was on colostrum, lots of veggies chopped into her food  
(high in Vitamin C), various Standard Process supplements, and other  
things I got from Betty or Dr. Susan Maier, another holistic vet.   
She was not vaccinated for anything after the test came back.  I do  
not know how ld she was when she came into my life but I suspect  
around 3-4 years.  I don't know why she was on her own.  She had  
been spayed and had wonderful manners so she may have been dumped.   
I don't know but I will always be grateful for the time we had  
together.  A month after she left this world, she sent me Copper and  
two weeks later she sent Thomas.  Both of these little guys are  
FeLV- to the delight of my vets at MAC who were high fiving all over  
the place when the tests came back.   Both of the kittens came from  
the pine thicket that Dixie and the Royal Princess Kitty Katt came  
from so we were all concerned.  They were extremely small (Copper  
ran through the links of a chain link fence without even sucking his  
gut in and he was about 8 weeks old) and, while their mothers gave  
them the best care, their mothers didn't have the food and care they  
would have had under ideal conditions.  The story of the kittens is  
wonderful but has nothing to do with your questions.  I urge you to  
find a holistic vet and consult that vet along with your regular  
vets.  Some will consult by phone if you cannot locate one.  I do  
not regret one minute with Dixie Louise.  She was a perfectly  
wonderful little lady who was very protective of me and very  
attentive.  Needless to say, I miss my little lady very much.  My  
heart broke into a thousand pieces or more when she died laying  
right beside me in the Jeep that took her on many wonderful  
adventures.  I am grateful for my time with her and grateful that  
she was able to leave this world after leaving the vets and without  
assistance in a place she always felt safe.  She taught me, as did  
the Royal Princess Kitty Katt, to appreciate the time we have and  
not look at what may come.  Everyone dies and everyone dies from  
something.  The 

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-02-06 Thread Lynne
We don't know when our positive contracted the disease.  We purchased him at 
4 years, being told he was perfectly healthy.  He died in less than two 
months after we got him.  When we took him to the vet we were told he was 
positive but for his well being should have him neutered anyway. I will 
forever wish we had not put him through that stress.  He was infected with 
earmites and fleas and we had him groomed and treated.  Probably more stress 
for him. Over a period of 4 weeks, he went from just being fatigued to 
having to go in to have fluid aspirated from his lungs on a weekly basis 
just so he could breath.  In the beginning he was started on Docycyclin and 
another antibiotic, then interferon.  He was scheduled to have a blood 
transfusion on a Tuesday but on the Sunday he was having difficulty 
breathing, having just had his lungs aspirated on the Friday so we took him 
to the emergency clinic where we were told we had to let him go.  He died of 
leukemia/FIV and peritonitis.  I understand FIV cannot be diagnosed without 
an autopsy but all the clinical signs were there.  We had gone as far as 
humanly possible in trying to save him and it was time to let him rest.  I 
still choke up just writing about this.  We've adopted 2 needy girls since 
but they aren't positive.  I honestly do not think I could go through the 
pain of another positive cat, although, if I had one, I probably would do 
most of the same things all over again.  Our cat was too sick and the 
disease too far advanced to save him.  Had we got him in its earlier stages 
and given him proper care right from the start, I like to think he'd still 
be with us.


Lynne
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Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present and  or 
past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better understand  the 
illness and how everything effects it, I would be really  grateful if you 
all could participate!  AT WHAT AGE DID YOUR CAT  BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? 
WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE DOING? WHAT  FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT 
LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS LEAD, E.G; INDOOR,  OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER 
CATS OR NOT? HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE  ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN 
LIFE? IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS  YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID 
THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but  your time in answering would be really 
appreciated! thanks so much!  hugs and good health to you and your fur 
babies, Amanda, Tora and  Angel Silver chan.

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-02-06 Thread Cougar Clan

Lynne,

You gave him a home, love and care.  It was not your fault that he had  
these problems when he came to you any more than it was mine that  
Dixie was positive.  They come to us for a reason and for whatever  
time we are blessed with, no matter what the cost to our hearts.   
There is a reason.  Maybe it is to enlarge our ability to give.  I  
don't know but I do know that they are a blessing even if it is  
painful.  Know that you did everything right for him.

On Feb 6, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Lynne wrote:

We don't know when our positive contracted the disease.  We  
purchased him at 4 years, being told he was perfectly healthy.  He  
died in less than two months after we got him.  When we took him to  
the vet we were told he was positive but for his well being should  
have him neutered anyway. I will forever wish we had not put him  
through that stress.  He was infected with earmites and fleas and we  
had him groomed and treated.  Probably more stress for him. Over a  
period of 4 weeks, he went from just being fatigued to having to go  
in to have fluid aspirated from his lungs on a weekly basis just so  
he could breath.  In the beginning he was started on Docycyclin and  
another antibiotic, then interferon.  He was scheduled to have a  
blood transfusion on a Tuesday but on the Sunday he was having  
difficulty breathing, having just had his lungs aspirated on the  
Friday so we took him to the emergency clinic where we were told we  
had to let him go.  He died of leukemia/FIV and peritonitis.  I  
understand FIV cannot be diagnosed without an autopsy but all the  
clinical signs were there.  We had gone as far as humanly possible  
in trying to save him and it was time to let him rest.  I still  
choke up just writing about this.  We've adopted 2 needy girls since  
but they aren't positive.  I honestly do not think I could go  
through the pain of another positive cat, although, if I had one, I  
probably would do most of the same things all over again.  Our cat  
was too sick and the disease too far advanced to save him.  Had we  
got him in its earlier stages and given him proper care right from  
the start, I like to think he'd still be with us.


Lynne
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part,just a  
personal one to better undertsand FeLV.






Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present  
and  or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better  
understand  the illness and how everything effects it, I would be  
really  grateful if you all could participate!  AT WHAT AGE DID  
YOUR CAT  BECOME FeLV POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE  
DOING? WHAT  FOOD DO/DID YOU FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS  
LEAD, E.G; INDOOR,  OUTDOOR/BOTH ? LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT?  
HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE  ANY OTHER ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE?  
IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS  YOUR CAT NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID  
THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but  your time in answering would be really  
appreciated! thanks so much!  hugs and good health to you and your  
fur babies, Amanda, Tora and  Angel Silver chan.

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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part, just a personal one to better undertsand FeLV.

2009-02-06 Thread Lynne
I agree, they do enlarge our ability to give.  If I hadn't run home and 
googled FeLV and found this group Boo may have been euthanized the very day 
we got the call asking us if we wanted to put him down.  If nothing else, 
that little guy helped educate us about this miserable disease.  When we 
took Snowy into the vet last week, her vet talked to us about our experience 
with Boo and was very pleased that we did what we did for him.  Turns out he 
had a positive cat and did all he could do for him as well.  He also 
mentioned that there are new develpments with treating the disease but 
they're not yet available, at least over here.


Lynne
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Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 8:12 PM
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better undertsand FeLV.




Lynne,

You gave him a home, love and care.  It was not your fault that he had 
these problems when he came to you any more than it was mine that  Dixie 
was positive.  They come to us for a reason and for whatever  time we are 
blessed with, no matter what the cost to our hearts.   There is a reason. 
Maybe it is to enlarge our ability to give.  I  don't know but I do know 
that they are a blessing even if it is  painful.  Know that you did 
everything right for him.

On Feb 6, 2009, at 7:04 PM, Lynne wrote:

We don't know when our positive contracted the disease.  We  purchased 
him at 4 years, being told he was perfectly healthy.  He  died in less 
than two months after we got him.  When we took him to  the vet we were 
told he was positive but for his well being should  have him neutered 
anyway. I will forever wish we had not put him  through that stress.  He 
was infected with earmites and fleas and we  had him groomed and treated. 
Probably more stress for him. Over a  period of 4 weeks, he went from 
just being fatigued to having to go  in to have fluid aspirated from his 
lungs on a weekly basis just so  he could breath.  In the beginning he 
was started on Docycyclin and  another antibiotic, then interferon.  He 
was scheduled to have a  blood transfusion on a Tuesday but on the Sunday 
he was having  difficulty breathing, having just had his lungs aspirated 
on the  Friday so we took him to the emergency clinic where we were told 
we  had to let him go.  He died of leukemia/FIV and peritonitis.  I 
understand FIV cannot be diagnosed without an autopsy but all the 
clinical signs were there.  We had gone as far as humanly possible  in 
trying to save him and it was time to let him rest.  I still  choke up 
just writing about this.  We've adopted 2 needy girls since  but they 
aren't positive.  I honestly do not think I could go  through the pain of 
another positive cat, although, if I had one, I  probably would do most 
of the same things all over again.  Our cat  was too sick and the disease 
too far advanced to save him.  Had we  got him in its earlier stages and 
given him proper care right from  the start, I like to think he'd still 
be with us.


Lynne
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 5:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV survey, please take part,just a  personal 
one to better undertsand FeLV.






Hi all, I want to ask you all some questions about your present  and 
or past FeLV kitties, this is a personal survey to better  understand 
the illness and how everything effects it, I would be  really  grateful 
if you all could participate!  AT WHAT AGE DID  YOUR CAT  BECOME FeLV 
POSITIVE? WHAT TREATMENTS DID YOU DO/ARE  DOING? WHAT  FOOD DO/DID YOU 
FEED? WHAT LIFESTYLE DO YOUR CATS  LEAD, E.G; INDOOR,  OUTDOOR/BOTH ? 
LIVE WITH OTHER CATS OR NOT?  HAS YOUR CAT HAD/HAVE  ANY OTHER 
ILLNESSES AND OR STRESS IN LIFE?  IF SO WHAT? WHAT AGE IS  YOUR CAT 
NOW? OR WHEN THEY DIED? WHAT DID  THEY DIE OF? So sorry, but  your time 
in answering would be really  appreciated! thanks so much!  hugs and 
good health to you and your  fur babies, Amanda, Tora and  Angel Silver 
chan.

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