Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style
Maybe leave a tv or radio on??? The new one is probably used to someone around 24/7. On Jul 29, 2011, at 9:54 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I also got my new ones suddenly so I had a few hissing, slapping episodes to begin with, but now we are settld down to just a few episodes. Mostly it happens when someone rounds a corner at the same time as someone else coming from te opposite direction. It has never gone beyond slaps and hisses. Becuse of the felv issus, you might have to isolate her at first, but ifyou gve her lots of love wen you get home and don't ignore your boy, shouldn't be too bad. Maybe a friend/neighbor could come in for a few minutes each day and love on both of them to comfort them? Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: Bonnie, Email me at taylore...@msn.com and I can send you my tried and true Cat Intro 101 instructions :) Edna From: ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:20:02 -0700 Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild- mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi Bonnie, Thank you for taking your aunt's cat. From description you gave us, it sounds like Princess will be no problem at all to integrate into your household. I think she will be more comfortable confined to one room at first, as it is overwhelming to have an entire house plus 4 other cats all at once. Your vet is correct.. Five cats are no more trouble than four. I thought I had a lot when I took in my fifth cat, and now I have 15 All rescued. Thankfully our house is large and they also have three outdoor enclosures they can access from the house. Let us know what the biopsy results show. I hope she is FelV neg. and the biopsy is benign. Lorrie On 07-29, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Thanks for your responses! I appreciate it. Princess got the in-office Felv test and was negative (thank goodness). The biopsy result should be available Mon. or Tue. but the vet said it looked rather nasty... Poor little think peed in the cage and now smells pretty bad. I'm thinking of bathing her (more trauma!) but want to give her a few days to acclimate. She finally came out from under the bed this morning and let me pet her while she ate. What a little sweetheart. She has the prettiest little pointy face. She looks like she is smiling. And she purred while I pet her, so hopefully she understands she is not in danger. Will keep you posted! B. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie Sent: Saturday, July 30, 2011 4:33 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style Hi Bonnie, Thank you for taking your aunt's cat. From description you gave us, it sounds like Princess will be no problem at all to integrate into your household. I think she will be more comfortable confined to one room at first, as it is overwhelming to have an entire house plus 4 other cats all at once. Your vet is correct.. Five cats are no more trouble than four. I thought I had a lot when I took in my fifth cat, and now I have 15 All rescued. Thankfully our house is large and they also have three outdoor enclosures they can access from the house. Let us know what the biopsy results show. I hope she is FelV neg. and the biopsy is benign. Lorrie On 07-29, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I already have picked out a no kill shelter. All my people have to do is transport my pride there. I have made provision for their expenses for transportation and the rest goes to the shelter. They have houses with reglar furniture for the cats to sleep on and outdoor areas fo them also. Most of my friends/family I have left are almost as old as I am and dumping seveal cats on them is asking a bit much. A good shelter that taks FELV babies is the answer. It may not be the same as home, but I think it is the solution for them. Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: That's very nice of you - I wish more people would care for their relatives' petsevery day, there's a notice or phone call about someone's mother/father, aunt/uncle either dying or moving to assisted living, and every time it sounds almost like blackmail: If someone doesn't take this cat/dog, I'm either going to throw it outside or bring it to a shelter, mostly kill shelters! You should see some of the photos of these beautiful animals, living in the lap of luxury while their parent were taking care of them, on sofas, elaborate beds, pampered...and these poor animals would have to end up like that? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 5:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style
Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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That's very nice of you - I wish more people would care for their relatives' petsevery day, there's a notice or phone call about someone's mother/father, aunt/uncle either dying or moving to assisted living, and every time it sounds almost like blackmail: If someone doesn't take this cat/dog, I'm either going to throw it outside or bring it to a shelter, mostly kill shelters! You should see some of the photos of these beautiful animals, living in the lap of luxury while their parent were taking care of them, on sofas, elaborate beds, pampered...and these poor animals would have to end up like that? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 5:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Sorry, didn't reply to your other question What I would normally do, would be to keep Princess in a separate room for a few days, exchange the cats beddings so that they can intermingle the scentsthen, if you have one, place her in a large cage, with a sheet over the sleeping area for privacy, that way the other 4 cats and she could meet safely...I always do that when I introduce a new cat to a large group of cats. Sometimes it takes a few days, sometimes more, depending on how the cats ineract. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 5:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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You will be fine. I suggest you rub the other cats with a towel and put it where she can smell it and do the same to her. This really does help. I love Feliway and use it frequently but I use the spray. I use Rescue Remedy too. On Jul 29, 2011, at 4:20 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote: Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild- mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Proof that animals need to be provided for in wills. On Jul 29, 2011, at 4:32 PM, Natalie wrote: That's very nice of you - I wish more people would care for their relatives' petsevery day, there's a notice or phone call about someone's mother/father, aunt/uncle either dying or moving to assisted living, and every time it sounds almost like blackmail: If someone doesn't take this cat/dog, I'm either going to throw it outside or bring it to a shelter, mostly kill shelters! You should see some of the photos of these beautiful animals, living in the lap of luxury while their parent were taking care of them, on sofas, elaborate beds, pampered...and these poor animals would have to end up like that? -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue Sent: Friday, July 29, 2011 5:20 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild- mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Bonnie, Email me at taylore...@msn.com and I can send you my tried and true Cat Intro 101 instructions :) Edna From: ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:20:02 -0700 Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I also got my new ones suddenly so I had a few hissing, slapping episodes to begin with, but now we are settld down to just a few episodes. Mostly it happens when someone rounds a corner at the same time as someone else coming from te opposite direction. It has never gone beyond slaps and hisses. Becuse of the felv issus, you might have to isolate her at first, but ifyou gve her lots of love wen you get home and don't ignore your boy, shouldn't be too bad. Maybe a friend/neighbor could come in for a few minutes each day and love on both of them to comfort them? Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote: Bonnie, Email me at taylore...@msn.com and I can send you my tried and true Cat Intro 101 instructions :) Edna From: ho...@sonic.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 29 Jul 2011 14:20:02 -0700 Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro New Cat Quick Style Hi Everyone Life can be stressful sometimes. My aunt is going into assisted living (suddenly) and I'm taking her cat. I took my mom's cat, Lucky, last Fall, and he's become part of the household very nicely. This little cat, Princess, is a sweet and mild-mannered little one. I took her to the vet today for a checkup and unfortunately he spied a growth on her tongue. He's biopsied it (so we will know) and I'm picking her up in a couple hours. The thing is, this is very sudden and I haven't had much time to prepare. And I'm going to be gone 12 or more hours a day next week (eek). I can put her in the spare bedroom until the Felv test comes back. But I don't want her to be freaked out or too frightened. I'm hoping that instead of a three weeks, I can try to integrate her in a week or two. This will make FIVE indoor cats for me. I've never had so many. The vet said, Well, four or five isn't much different. Bless him. What's the conventional wisdom out there? Leave her in the room 7-14 days, or longer? Thanks for your input! Bonnie ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Shannon you have received some wonderful advise. I agree - bring him into the sunroom. I have had several FeLV+ kitties in my home with my negative kitties. My negatives had received the FeLV vaccine. Everyone gets along just fine. Until you can get your negatives vaccinated the sunroom is a perfect solution. Check around with local rescue groups/ Some may have the the panleul vaccine available so you can give Whimsy his booster at home. If not it can be ordered on line from places like Revival Animal Health. A safe environment, good food and love are the best treatment for FeLV. Sharyl --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] intro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 1:09 PM hi, I just joined this group - not sure how active it is, but I was thrilled to find the site. I've been taking care of a feral turned 'could be housecat' for 6 months. Finally I was able to trap Whimsy and got him fixed, etc. He turned out to be FeLV positive, but seemingly asymptomatic. We did not do a blood work as initially this was to be a TNR. He is approx 1 1/2 yrs old. I have other inside kitties, so after hearing the FeLV news it wasn't an option to bring him in, but I also refused to put him down. He does still live outside, but won't stay in the numerous shelters I have put out for him any longer due to possums moving into them. He hangs out in the yard most of the time, despite the cold Midwest weather, and is fed twice a day. Since his fixing 4 wks ago, he's become even sweeter, almost babyish and refuses to get off my lap when it's time for me to go inside. He's a real climber, jumper, I often see him on roofs and in trees. He was popcorning all over the place at the vet's - though I got him to walk into the carrier, he had to be sedated once there after a near escape. my question: I have a sun room that I could put him in, if my partner agrees, but what risk is there to my other kitties, a few with their own issues (FIV, HCM, CRF, lung issues, allergies). I am not super concerned about FeLV being spread since they'd be separated(unlikely) but other things Whimsy might have - like Panleuk. I have never been able to get a stool sample from him. what other scary things are possible? how do I ensure he won't have them? I did confirm the ELISA with an IFA, and it was positive. This is 'stage 5 or 6', then? His health issues have been: bouts of no appetitite in Dec coinciding with a runny eye and wound on chest. I got him on antibiotics and it took a good 2 wks, but the eye cleared and his appetite was back. He's had some not eating issues lately, but seems more concerned I coax him and sit with him while he eats. Pepcid helps slightly. He's also been on an immune booster for a month. He used to be a dodgy feral and now tries to rub his face on mine - he's come such a long way. I would love to hear any opinions or stories. thanks, Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hi! I have a 4 year old boy FELV+ since Sept. 2006. He had some health issues but he is doing allright. Do not put him to sleep, he can live a good quality of life. He is + for Elisa and IFA and is healthy right now. He had a feline urinary bladder infection but he is ok.( not related to FELV). I have 7 other kitties - for FELV. Just keep and eye on him, my other cats have their FELV vaccine. Try to bring him indoors so that his inmune system will be better. Good Luck, Maria --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Subject: [Felvtalk] intro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 6:09 PM hi, I just joined this group - not sure how active it is, but I was thrilled to find the site. I've been taking care of a feral turned 'could be housecat' for 6 months. Finally I was able to trap Whimsy and got him fixed, etc. He turned out to be FeLV positive, but seemingly asymptomatic. We did not do a blood work as initially this was to be a TNR. He is approx 1 1/2 yrs old. I have other inside kitties, so after hearing the FeLV news it wasn't an option to bring him in, but I also refused to put him down. He does still live outside, but won't stay in the numerous shelters I have put out for him any longer due to possums moving into them. He hangs out in the yard most of the time, despite the cold Midwest weather, and is fed twice a day. Since his fixing 4 wks ago, he's become even sweeter, almost babyish and refuses to get off my lap when it's time for me to go inside. He's a real climber, jumper, I often see him on roofs and in trees. He was popcorning all over the place at the vet's - though I got him to walk into the carrier, he had to be sedated once there after a near escape. my question: I have a sun room that I could put him in, if my partner agrees, but what risk is there to my other kitties, a few with their own issues (FIV, HCM, CRF, lung issues, allergies). I am not super concerned about FeLV being spread since they'd be separated(unlikely) but other things Whimsy might have - like Panleuk. I have never been able to get a stool sample from him. what other scary things are possible? how do I ensure he won't have them? I did confirm the ELISA with an IFA, and it was positive. This is 'stage 5 or 6', then? His health issues have been: bouts of no appetitite in Dec coinciding with a runny eye and wound on chest. I got him on antibiotics and it took a good 2 wks, but the eye cleared and his appetite was back. He's had some not eating issues lately, but seems more concerned I coax him and sit with him while he eats. Pepcid helps slightly. He's also been on an immune booster for a month. He used to be a dodgy feral and now tries to rub his face on mine - he's come such a long way. I would love to hear any opinions or stories. thanks, Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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hi, I just joined this group - not sure how active it is, but I was thrilled to find the site. I've been taking care of a feral turned 'could be housecat' for 6 months. Finally I was able to trap Whimsy and got him fixed, etc. He turned out to be FeLV positive, but seemingly asymptomatic. We did not do a blood work as initially this was to be a TNR. He is approx 1 1/2 yrs old. I have other inside kitties, so after hearing the FeLV news it wasn't an option to bring him in, but I also refused to put him down. He does still live outside, but won't stay in the numerous shelters I have put out for him any longer due to possums moving into them. He hangs out in the yard most of the time, despite the cold Midwest weather, and is fed twice a day. Since his fixing 4 wks ago, he's become even sweeter, almost babyish and refuses to get off my lap when it's time for me to go inside. He's a real climber, jumper, I often see him on roofs and in trees. He was popcorning all over the place at the vet's - though I got him to walk into the carrier, he had to be sedated once there after a near escape. my question: I have a sun room that I could put him in, if my partner agrees, but what risk is there to my other kitties, a few with their own issues (FIV, HCM, CRF, lung issues, allergies). I am not super concerned about FeLV being spread since they'd be separated(unlikely) but other things Whimsy might have - like Panleuk. I have never been able to get a stool sample from him. what other scary things are possible? how do I ensure he won't have them? I did confirm the ELISA with an IFA, and it was positive. This is 'stage 5 or 6', then? His health issues have been: bouts of no appetitite in Dec coinciding with a runny eye and wound on chest. I got him on antibiotics and it took a good 2 wks, but the eye cleared and his appetite was back. He's had some not eating issues lately, but seems more concerned I coax him and sit with him while he eats. Pepcid helps slightly. He's also been on an immune booster for a month. He used to be a dodgy feral and now tries to rub his face on mine - he's come such a long way. I would love to hear any opinions or stories. thanks, Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The sunroom would be a wonderful solution. Others on this list can address the health issues. If he is separated, I would not be concerned personally. I would have a baseline blood test done (your vet may have already done this.) A few years ago Dixie came into my life much the way Whimsy has come into yours. She was the most wonderful little girl. She remained with me for 3 years. I took her into be spayed and got the awful FeLV news. At that time she was scheduled to be a farm/porch cat. She was a garage cat for a while then became a house cat. I took her to a holistic vet who is totally wonderful and who helped Dixie live a full life until her last minutes. Bless you for taking care of Whimsy. Please bring him into the sunroom. You will enjoy it as much as he does but know that he may hide for a while. New smells, sounds and such. On Feb 24, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: hi, I just joined this group - not sure how active it is, but I was thrilled to find the site. I've been taking care of a feral turned 'could be housecat' for 6 months. Finally I was able to trap Whimsy and got him fixed, etc. He turned out to be FeLV positive, but seemingly asymptomatic. We did not do a blood work as initially this was to be a TNR. He is approx 1 1/2 yrs old. I have other inside kitties, so after hearing the FeLV news it wasn't an option to bring him in, but I also refused to put him down. He does still live outside, but won't stay in the numerous shelters I have put out for him any longer due to possums moving into them. He hangs out in the yard most of the time, despite the cold Midwest weather, and is fed twice a day. Since his fixing 4 wks ago, he's become even sweeter, almost babyish and refuses to get off my lap when it's time for me to go inside. He's a real climber, jumper, I often see him on roofs and in trees. He was popcorning all over the place at the vet's - though I got him to walk into the carrier, he had to be sedated once there after a near escape. my question: I have a sun room that I could put him in, if my partner agrees, but what risk is there to my other kitties, a few with their own issues (FIV, HCM, CRF, lung issues, allergies). I am not super concerned about FeLV being spread since they'd be separated(unlikely) but other things Whimsy might have - like Panleuk. I have never been able to get a stool sample from him. what other scary things are possible? how do I ensure he won't have them? I did confirm the ELISA with an IFA, and it was positive. This is 'stage 5 or 6', then? His health issues have been: bouts of no appetitite in Dec coinciding with a runny eye and wound on chest. I got him on antibiotics and it took a good 2 wks, but the eye cleared and his appetite was back. He's had some not eating issues lately, but seems more concerned I coax him and sit with him while he eats. Pepcid helps slightly. He's also been on an immune booster for a month. He used to be a dodgy feral and now tries to rub his face on mine - he's come such a long way. I would love to hear any opinions or stories. thanks, Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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when he was neutered, was he given his basic shots? if so, if you can get him the booster, that'll protect him against panleuk, and the other basics. depends on your vet--if kitty is really hard to handle or get into a carrier, some will give you the vaccine to administer at home. i'm fairly sure that cats don't carry panleuk--if he's been exposed, he'll get sick and get over it, or not, but he won't harbor it forever. anyone? if he were ever a housecat, which it almost sounds as if he might have been at some point, he could well have been vaccinated as a young one, so has immunity to panleuk already. (and there's no answer, yet, as to whether or not immunity, once established by the full series of baby shots, is lifelong or not. i ain't even gonna go there!) MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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hi Cougar Clan and Dixie-the-Angel-Cat, Oh, thank you for writing! it warmed my heart! I just came in from having 'dinner w/ Whimsy' and he looks at me so longingly now when I leave him. He's even letting me cut the horrible mattings out of his very long fur now. Dixie sounds like she was so dear and special, and I am sure the holistic approach aided her tremendously. I wish I had done blood work that day, but when they gave me the news and urged me to put him to sleep and not bother to do the IFA even, I forgot about the chipping, blood work etc. I did put to sleep a beautiful FeLV girl, Gypsy, last year because I was told it was the only thing to do and it appeared she had tumors in her mouth and ears. It never sat right with me, and I regretted it so deeply. I have found out that on this street/block, most ferals have had FeLV going back 20 yrs here. There aren't even colonies, but just random cats - I will see about 3 every year and TNR the ones I can. It seems like a very high rate. One bully male Sargeant lasted in the area nearly 3 yrs - very wild - I just saw him in Dec and he was suffering terribly, emaciated, coughing and staggering, but I could not trap him to help him and ease his suffering. I am sure he passed from FeLV. I did witness him attacking Whimsy, who is very passive, and I chased him off. I cringe to think Whimsy might suddenly disappear and I wouldn't be there to help him when it 'was time'. I hope I can get my guy to agree. paws crossed. Thank you for your input so very much. Shannon and Whimsy --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote: From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] intro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 4:01 PM The sunroom would be a wonderful solution. Others on this list can address the health issues. If he is separated, I would not be concerned personally. I would have a baseline blood test done (your vet may have already done this.) A few years ago Dixie came into my life much the way Whimsy has come into yours. She was the most wonderful little girl. She remained with me for 3 years. I took her into be spayed and got the awful FeLV news. At that time she was scheduled to be a farm/porch cat. She was a garage cat for a while then became a house cat. I took her to a holistic vet who is totally wonderful and who helped Dixie live a full life until her last minutes. Bless you for taking care of Whimsy. Please bring him into the sunroom. You will enjoy it as much as he does but know that he may hide for a while. New smells, sounds and such. On Feb 24, 2010, at 12:09 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: hi, I just joined this group - not sure how active it is, but I was thrilled to find the site. I've been taking care of a feral turned 'could be housecat' for 6 months. Finally I was able to trap Whimsy and got him fixed, etc. He turned out to be FeLV positive, but seemingly asymptomatic. We did not do a blood work as initially this was to be a TNR. He is approx 1 1/2 yrs old. I have other inside kitties, so after hearing the FeLV news it wasn't an option to bring him in, but I also refused to put him down. He does still live outside, but won't stay in the numerous shelters I have put out for him any longer due to possums moving into them. He hangs out in the yard most of the time, despite the cold Midwest weather, and is fed twice a day. Since his fixing 4 wks ago, he's become even sweeter, almost babyish and refuses to get off my lap when it's time for me to go inside. He's a real climber, jumper, I often see him on roofs and in trees. He was popcorning all over the place at the vet's - though I got him to walk into the carrier, he had to be sedated once there after a near escape. my question: I have a sun room that I could put him in, if my partner agrees, but what risk is there to my other kitties, a few with their own issues (FIV, HCM, CRF, lung issues, allergies). I am not super concerned about FeLV being spread since they'd be separated(unlikely) but other things Whimsy might have - like Panleuk. I have never been able to get a stool sample from him. what other scary things are possible? how do I ensure he won't have them? I did confirm the ELISA with an IFA, and it was positive. This is 'stage 5 or 6', then? His health issues have been: bouts of no appetitite in Dec coinciding with a runny eye and wound on chest. I got him on antibiotics and it took a good 2 wks, but the eye cleared and his appetite was back. He's had some not eating issues lately, but seems more concerned I coax him and sit with him while he eats. Pepcid helps slightly. He's also been on an immune booster for a month. He used to be a dodgy feral and now tries to rub his face on mine - he's come such a long way. I would love to hear any opinions or stories. thanks
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hi Mary Christine, Yes, he was given his basic shots, but I wasn't sure quite how/where Panleuk was covered. Someone mentioned it to me as being something I could transfer via clothing to my other guys, so it got me wondering. He is completely difficult for the vets to handle, and would have to be sedated, but the whole thing is rather dramatic, as I'm sure you are familiar with. I've been working with him 2 hrs a day since August - initially through the window just talking while he ate, then observing from a far. There was just something about him :). thanks for your input, it's appreciated. Shannon --- On Wed, 2/24/10, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] intro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 5:36 PM when he was neutered, was he given his basic shots? if so, if you can get him the booster, that'll protect him against panleuk, and the other basics. depends on your vet--if kitty is really hard to handle or get into a carrier, some will give you the vaccine to administer at home. i'm fairly sure that cats don't carry panleuk--if he's been exposed, he'll get sick and get over it, or not, but he won't harbor it forever. anyone? if he were ever a housecat, which it almost sounds as if he might have been at some point, he could well have been vaccinated as a young one, so has immunity to panleuk already. (and there's no answer, yet, as to whether or not immunity, once established by the full series of baby shots, is lifelong or not. i ain't even gonna go there!) MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I was in Louisville with Dixie (I have a home there) and I had the luxury of timemy wonderful vets at Middletown Animal Clinic were choking when they phoned me with the news. They kept Dixie safe (I am very sure Dixie didn't feel safe) while I tried to work things out in my mind and for her here in the country. It wasn't ideal. She stayed in a garage for a while and, when she developed a URI, I slept in the garage with her. Time is important. When Dixie left this world she had EVERYTHING! A big bed in a house on a farm that was designed for cats (wide windowsills, lots of windows, a Person who really didn't care if she scratched the floors (pine so there was never a question of messing up the carpet) etc., travel to Louisville, a Christmas tree designed to her standards (I accept animal communicators and she got a 10 foot tall tree with thousands of lights and hundreds of ornaments and...needless to say lots of presents). All of this is to say, her life with me was too short. She was several years old when this happened and had been spayed although we never found a scar (I spent a LOT of money having bloodwork done---she kept telling the AC she had been spayed---she had). But she had everything I even thought she might possibly want. Hopefully that made up for the life she had before. A month after she left she sent me a kitten. Two weeks later she sent another one. Both are very healthy and wonderful boyseach twice Dixie's size. Again, all of this is to say, enjoy Whimsy and don't worry too much. Throw away your calendars (this applies to your other cats too) and enjoy your time together. I had another cat, Kitty, who had terminal cancer. I let her and Dixie together. Neither was going to shorten the life of the other. My wonderful vets told me with Kitty and with Dixie to make my decisions (and they were brutally honest and applied the standards they wanted applied to their lives as I did) and not look back. Peace to all of your friends and to you. I know this is rambling. Dixie left two years ago and I still miss my wonderful girl. The two boys she sent me stay close and were not eaten by the hawk family On Feb 24, 2010, at 5:54 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: hi Cougar Clan and Dixie-the-Angel-Cat, Oh, thank you for writing! it warmed my heart! I just came in from having 'dinner w/ Whimsy' and he looks at me so longingly now when I leave him. He's even letting me cut the horrible mattings out of his very long fur now. Dixie sounds like she was so dear and special, and I am sure the holistic approach aided her tremendously. I wish I had done blood work that day, but when they gave me the news and urged me to put him to sleep and not bother to do the IFA even, I forgot about the chipping, blood work etc. I did put to sleep a beautiful FeLV girl, Gypsy, last year because I was told it was the only thing to do and it appeared she had tumors in her mouth and ears. It never sat right with me, and I regretted it so deeply. I have found out that on this street/block, most ferals have had FeLV going back 20 yrs here. There aren't even colonies, but just random cats - I will see about 3 every year and TNR the ones I can. It seems like a very high rate. One bully male Sargeant lasted in the area nearly 3 yrs - very wild - I just saw him in Dec and he was suffering terribly, emaciated, coughing and staggering, but I could not trap him to help him and ease his suffering. I am sure he passed from FeLV. I did witness him attacking Whimsy, who is very passive, and I chased him off. I cringe to think Whimsy might suddenly disappear and I wouldn't be there to help him when it 'was time'. I hope I can get my guy to agree. paws crossed. Thank you for your input so very much. Shannon and Whimsy --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote: From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] intro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 4:01 PM The sunroom would be a wonderful solution. Others on this list can address the health issues. If he is separated, I would not be concerned personally. I would have a baseline blood test done (your vet may have already done this.) A few years ago Dixie came into my life much the way Whimsy has come into yours. She was the most wonderful little girl. She remained with me for 3 years. I took her into be spayed and got the awful FeLV news. At that time she was scheduled to be a farm/porch cat. She was a garage cat for a while then became a house cat. I took her to a holistic vet who is totally wonderful and who helped Dixie live a full life until her last minutes. Bless you for taking care of Whimsy. Please bring him into the sunroom. You will enjoy it as much as he does but know that he may hide for a while. New smells
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OK.try Rescue Remedy and Feliway if you get him into the sunroom.and expect to spend some extra time therea nice recliner or other place for you to nap would be wonderful. On Feb 24, 2010, at 6:02 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: hi Mary Christine, Yes, he was given his basic shots, but I wasn't sure quite how/where Panleuk was covered. Someone mentioned it to me as being something I could transfer via clothing to my other guys, so it got me wondering. He is completely difficult for the vets to handle, and would have to be sedated, but the whole thing is rather dramatic, as I'm sure you are familiar with. I've been working with him 2 hrs a day since August - initially through the window just talking while he ate, then observing from a far. There was just something about him :). thanks for your input, it's appreciated. Shannon --- On Wed, 2/24/10, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] intro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 5:36 PM when he was neutered, was he given his basic shots? if so, if you can get him the booster, that'll protect him against panleuk, and the other basics. depends on your vet--if kitty is really hard to handle or get into a carrier, some will give you the vaccine to administer at home. i'm fairly sure that cats don't carry panleuk--if he's been exposed, he'll get sick and get over it, or not, but he won't harbor it forever. anyone? if he were ever a housecat, which it almost sounds as if he might have been at some point, he could well have been vaccinated as a young one, so has immunity to panleuk already. (and there's no answer, yet, as to whether or not immunity, once established by the full series of baby shots, is lifelong or not. i ain't even gonna go there!) MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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PS stress him as little as you can. Feed him the best you can. On Feb 24, 2010, at 6:02 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: hi Mary Christine, Yes, he was given his basic shots, but I wasn't sure quite how/where Panleuk was covered. Someone mentioned it to me as being something I could transfer via clothing to my other guys, so it got me wondering. He is completely difficult for the vets to handle, and would have to be sedated, but the whole thing is rather dramatic, as I'm sure you are familiar with. I've been working with him 2 hrs a day since August - initially through the window just talking while he ate, then observing from a far. There was just something about him :). thanks for your input, it's appreciated. Shannon --- On Wed, 2/24/10, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote: From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] intro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 5:36 PM when he was neutered, was he given his basic shots? if so, if you can get him the booster, that'll protect him against panleuk, and the other basics. depends on your vet--if kitty is really hard to handle or get into a carrier, some will give you the vaccine to administer at home. i'm fairly sure that cats don't carry panleuk--if he's been exposed, he'll get sick and get over it, or not, but he won't harbor it forever. anyone? if he were ever a housecat, which it almost sounds as if he might have been at some point, he could well have been vaccinated as a young one, so has immunity to panleuk already. (and there's no answer, yet, as to whether or not immunity, once established by the full series of baby shots, is lifelong or not. i ain't even gonna go there!) MC -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org ) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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definitely! all the while not making the 7 inside babies too jealous! --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote: From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] intro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 6:30 PM OK.try Rescue Remedy and Feliway if you get him into the sunroom.and expect to spend some extra time therea nice recliner or other place for you to nap would be wonderful. On Feb 24, 2010, at 6:02 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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yes, I worry about the stress of vet visits/change on his immune system. remarkably, he didn't hold it against me after I got him fixed, had him recover in the carrier, and then released him. He came right back for dinner. I usually feed the ferals a cheaper food, but I switched him to Tiki Cat in December and some crunchy Orejan kibble when he is picky. He likes Halo's chicken protein treats, too. And bowls of reverse osmosis water. And I always tell him he's very healthy - positive affirmations for kitties, why not! :) I also do Reiki on him, which he likes. --- On Wed, 2/24/10, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com wrote: From: Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] intro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wednesday, February 24, 2010, 6:30 PM PS stress him as little as you can. Feed him the best you can. On Feb 24, 2010, at 6:02 PM, Emeraldkittee wrote: ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Shannon- I've had many FeLV cats over the last 10 years. I've never separated them from my negative cats. One of my FeLV negative cats was FIV positive. I vaccinated for FeLV every 6 months on the advice of my vet - won't mention her name, but she is now a nationally known vet. They all shared food, water, etc. None of my negative cats ever got the FeLV. Not even my FIV cat. There have been others on this list in the past who mixed their cats as well. On the subject of giving the FVRCP vaccines I can tell you I do not ever give it to my FeLV cats anymore. The last time I did the cat immediately got sick never recovered. She died within a few weeks of getting the vaccine. I know others who don't give it to their FeLV cats either - for the same reason. You would not give a sick cat a vaccine FeLV cats already have a depressed immune system. Beth Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Emeraldkittee emeraldkit...@yahoo.com Date: Wed, 24 Feb 2010 10:09:28 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] intro hi, I just joined this group - not sure how active it is, but I was thrilled to find the site. I've been taking care of a feral turned 'could be housecat' for 6 months. Finally I was able to trap Whimsy and got him fixed, etc. He turned out to be FeLV positive, but seemingly asymptomatic. We did not do a blood work as initially this was to be a TNR. He is approx 1 1/2 yrs old. I have other inside kitties, so after hearing the FeLV news it wasn't an option to bring him in, but I also refused to put him down. He does still live outside, but won't stay in the numerous shelters I have put out for him any longer due to possums moving into them. He hangs out in the yard most of the time, despite the cold Midwest weather, and is fed twice a day. Since his fixing 4 wks ago, he's become even sweeter, almost babyish and refuses to get off my lap when it's time for me to go inside. He's a real climber, jumper, I often see him on roofs and in trees. He was popcorning all over the place at the vet's - though I got him to walk into the carrier, he had to be sedated once there after a near escape. my question: I have a sun room that I could put him in, if my partner agrees, but what risk is there to my other kitties, a few with their own issues (FIV, HCM, CRF, lung issues, allergies). I am not super concerned about FeLV being spread since they'd be separated(unlikely) but other things Whimsy might have - like Panleuk. I have never been able to get a stool sample from him. what other scary things are possible? how do I ensure he won't have them? I did confirm the ELISA with an IFA, and it was positive. This is 'stage 5 or 6', then? His health issues have been: bouts of no appetitite in Dec coinciding with a runny eye and wound on chest. I got him on antibiotics and it took a good 2 wks, but the eye cleared and his appetite was back. He's had some not eating issues lately, but seems more concerned I coax him and sit with him while he eats. Pepcid helps slightly. He's also been on an immune booster for a month. He used to be a dodgy feral and now tries to rub his face on mine - he's come such a long way. I would love to hear any opinions or stories. thanks, Shannon ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Mary Christine, I appreciate your questions, there are many thoughts on this issue. If you will re-read my post, I said that there were 'conflicting' studies. I was just trying to take away guilt of any loving owner that had either vaccinated or not vaccinated their positive kitties and the good or bad results that followed. Either decision can be supported. As I remember, which I do very well, the studies that were conducted many years ago (late 70's -when I was still in grad school at OSU- and when successful vaccines for FeLV were being developed , both 'live' and 'killed' (studies at that time were decreased due to lack of grant funding-remember the oil crisis and recession then, much like now), and then, the 80's and 90's at least gathered a bit of evidence with anecdotal stories to OSU from owners and past study participants with pros and cons of the 'killed' virus), and further study needs to be done, as I explicitly stated. As far as I know, there is no 'definitive info on this subject. The only way that a 'killed' virus theoretically could cause a problem is if the adjuvant with which it is carried is a problem to the recipient. These many years later I can not site specifics on the papers, heaven knows I am not aware of all of the individual cases that were gathered, but spoke with the researchers at the time. In my post, I gave thoughts, just from memory and personal experience, and my feelings on the subject as I have found, and expressed the unknowing and questions that still exist. There is much to be learned with more research dollars.I think you will see that this is what I briefly posted previously. I have included my past post that you referred to directly below, and your questions below that. I appreciate your scrutinization of my post, and compliment you on your long standing, caring, study and care of the unfortunate FELV+ kitty. Karen Griffith-740-992-5782 (If you have any questions) P.S. I have found over the years that 'symptomatic' kitties do not do well immediately after vaccination. My previous message- Laurie, I can appreciate your post. There are studies that say that vaccination helps the FELV kitty and others that say just the opposite. I have found that vaccination of positive cats decreases their survivability in the immediate situation. (Who knows what long term figures are for asymptomatic kitties). We'll have to wait another 10 yrs to get the real results with double blind studies. They are wonderful animals. They thrive and survive despite our best efforts in many cases. We need to send a blessing to all on this list that help every day and try to take the best care possible of these immunocompromised souls. I just do what I have found to be successful over the last 10 years or so. Karen - Original Message - From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 5:36 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro would like to see what studies you are talking about, karen--as far as i know there haven't been any done at all re: the effects of vaccinating positive cats. there are just various schools of thought, and a mounting lot of anecdotal evidence that tends to support the possibility that vaccinating positive might actually lengthen their lives, as has been the experience of many folks on this list. most things i've seen have said not to BOTHER vaccinating positives as it's a waste of money and vaccine, NOT that it has any bad effect on them. it's a killed vaccine, so the only time i've ever seen anyone saying, don't vaccinate, it'll give the cat the virus! is from folks who say that about negatives, too, because they don't understand how vaccines work in the first place. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Laurie, I can appreciate your post. There are studies that say that vaccination helps the FELV kitty and others that say just the opposite. I have found that vaccination of positive cats decreases their survivability in the immediate situation. (Who knows what long term figures are for asymptomatic kitties). We'll have to wait another 10 yrs to get the real results with double blind studies. They are wonderful animals. They thrive and survive despite our best efforts in many cases. We need to send a blessing to all on this list that help every day and try to take the best care possible of these immunocompromised souls. I just do what I have found to be successful over the last 10 years or so. Karen - Original Message - From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro The odd thing is I didn't do anything special because I had no idea what this diagnosis meant at that time! I even had them vaccinated for feline leukemia every year (makes me wonder about the vet!). Stripes was treated with antibiotics every time he got sick. He nearly died from an injection the vet gave him once (he couldn't walk after) but he rallied. Mostly I loved them and provided a mostly stress free environment. I fed them Natural Choice and later Science Diet CD to Squeaky. They even ate Meow Mix and canned Friskies before I knew NOT to feed MM. The vet thought Squeaky was a carrier and carried the virus in his bone marrow. When I considered a companion for Squeaky after Stripes died, the vet never told me of any risk for a new kitty Not sure if this is any help at all other than to say that some kitties do well no matter what we do! Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro My 2 FeLV+ cats lived to ages 22 and 16. Stripes, the 16 year old, was sick on and off his entire life. Squeaky was never sick until his last 3 weeks on earth. Laurie Laurie, With that wonderful statement, can you tell me how you cared for them - both the sick one and the well one? I would like to do exactly what you did. Thanks! Trissa in Philly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I was lucky in that my cat came up positive for FeLv then we tested him a month later and he had cleared it from his system. Its apparently rare but does happen. --- On Tue, 28/4/09, Karen Griffith griff...@frognet.net wrote: From: Karen Griffith griff...@frognet.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Received: Tuesday, 28 April, 2009, 7:12 PM Laurie, I can appreciate your post. There are studies that say that vaccination helps the FELV kitty and others that say just the opposite. I have found that vaccination of positive cats decreases their survivability in the immediate situation. (Who knows what long term figures are for asymptomatic kitties). We'll have to wait another 10 yrs to get the real results with double blind studies. They are wonderful animals. They thrive and survive despite our best efforts in many cases. We need to send a blessing to all on this list that help every day and try to take the best care possible of these immunocompromised souls. I just do what I have found to be successful over the last 10 years or so. Karen - Original Message - From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro The odd thing is I didn't do anything special because I had no idea what this diagnosis meant at that time! I even had them vaccinated for feline leukemia every year (makes me wonder about the vet!). Stripes was treated with antibiotics every time he got sick. He nearly died from an injection the vet gave him once (he couldn't walk after) but he rallied. Mostly I loved them and provided a mostly stress free environment. I fed them Natural Choice and later Science Diet CD to Squeaky. They even ate Meow Mix and canned Friskies before I knew NOT to feed MM. The vet thought Squeaky was a carrier and carried the virus in his bone marrow. When I considered a companion for Squeaky after Stripes died, the vet never told me of any risk for a new kitty Not sure if this is any help at all other than to say that some kitties do well no matter what we do! Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro My 2 FeLV+ cats lived to ages 22 and 16. Stripes, the 16 year old, was sick on and off his entire life. Squeaky was never sick until his last 3 weeks on earth. Laurie Laurie, With that wonderful statement, can you tell me how you cared for them - both the sick one and the well one? I would like to do exactly what you did. Thanks! Trissa in Philly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Enjoy a better web experience. Upgrade to the new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7. Get it now. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Today I would not vaccinate. I would do nothing to compromise them. Squeaky did get sick for 3 days every year after his FeLV vaccination. I cannot believe neither the vet nor I stopped doing them. That was 13 years ago...I know a lot more know and don't hesitate to ask questions and do my research. Groups like this make all the difference in the world. We can be informed guardians and we can consult with many others in our same situation. I appreciate knowing what others (including other vets) do. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Karen Griffith Sent: Tuesday, April 28, 2009 4:13 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro Laurie, I can appreciate your post. There are studies that say that vaccination helps the FELV kitty and others that say just the opposite. I have found that vaccination of positive cats decreases their survivability in the immediate situation. (Who knows what long term figures are for asymptomatic kitties). We'll have to wait another 10 yrs to get the real results with double blind studies. They are wonderful animals. They thrive and survive despite our best efforts in many cases. We need to send a blessing to all on this list that help every day and try to take the best care possible of these immunocompromised souls. I just do what I have found to be successful over the last 10 years or so. Karen - Original Message - From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 11:23 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro The odd thing is I didn't do anything special because I had no idea what this diagnosis meant at that time! I even had them vaccinated for feline leukemia every year (makes me wonder about the vet!). Stripes was treated with antibiotics every time he got sick. He nearly died from an injection the vet gave him once (he couldn't walk after) but he rallied. Mostly I loved them and provided a mostly stress free environment. I fed them Natural Choice and later Science Diet CD to Squeaky. They even ate Meow Mix and canned Friskies before I knew NOT to feed MM. The vet thought Squeaky was a carrier and carried the virus in his bone marrow. When I considered a companion for Squeaky after Stripes died, the vet never told me of any risk for a new kitty Not sure if this is any help at all other than to say that some kitties do well no matter what we do! Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro My 2 FeLV+ cats lived to ages 22 and 16. Stripes, the 16 year old, was sick on and off his entire life. Squeaky was never sick until his last 3 weeks on earth. Laurie Laurie, With that wonderful statement, can you tell me how you cared for them - both the sick one and the well one? I would like to do exactly what you did. Thanks! Trissa in Philly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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would like to see what studies you are talking about, karen--as far as i know there haven't been any done at all re: the effects of vaccinating positive cats. there are just various schools of thought, and a mounting lot of anecdotal evidence that tends to support the possibility that vaccinating positive might actually lengthen their lives, as has been the experience of many folks on this list. most things i've seen have said not to BOTHER vaccinating positives as it's a waste of money and vaccine, NOT that it has any bad effect on them. it's a killed vaccine, so the only time i've ever seen anyone saying, don't vaccinate, it'll give the cat the virus! is from folks who say that about negatives, too, because they don't understand how vaccines work in the first place. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Hello, I have been a member of this list for a few days now since I found out that our new kitty tested postive for feline leukemia. We already have one cat, Jasper, who is about 7-8 years old. The animal shelter was unsure of his age when I got him, so we aren't quite sure now either. Jasper, as a rule, really dislikes other animals. Cats, dogs, he shows them all who is boss. However, since we have moved to our new house in mid-January, we've had a stray hanging around. Jasper, who gets out every now and then even though we try not to let him, actually didn't seem to hate this other cat. I saw them actually playing together which was a surprise to me. This other cat kept trying to sneak IN the house and was so loving anyway that we just decided to adopt him once we realized we might actually be able to have another cat in the same house as Jasper (we have tried twice previous with very bad results). We kept this new cat (my kids are bent on calling him McFluffins) in the bathroom overnight while waiting for his first vet appointment to see if he would even use a litter box. I was glad to see that he did, but noticed we had an issue with worms. While at the vet they tested for FIV and feline leukemia. This is when we found that he tested positive for feline leukemia. The vet that I spoke to that day didn't really try to encourage me in making any decision, but I have to admit that I thought about having him put down. I was not really willing to though because I have already found that he is a very loving and wonderful cat and is perfectly healthy at the moment. After asking some questions about how it can progress and the implications for Jasper, I decided that we would keep him. We had another vet visit the day after for Jasper and the vet that we spoke to that day was firm that there will be issues with the stray that we took in, it is just a matter of how long until they surface. She was much less hopeful than the previous vet, but nice and informative all the same. Currently Jasper and the new cat are seperated as Jasper was behind on his vaccinations and was never vaccinated again feline leuk. I was told that, based on Jasper's age, he wasn't likely to catch it anyway, but it would be worth giving anyhow. It was suggested that they be kept apart until his second booster shot in a month after this one. Does anyone else have an experience like this? Is it really necessary to keep them seperated? I have been reading all of the posts so far but feel a little lost since I am not very knowledgable on the subject, so hopefully I will catch up soon. Nortina ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Nortina, First of all welcome to the group. There are people here with a great deal of knowledge about this horrible disease. I have seven cats, two are positive for feline leukemia. The negative cats are all vaccinated. My oldest positve, Orlando, is 11 years old and the youngest, Tweezer, will be three. Both are asymptomatic. I lost a positive about 6 months ago to anemia. He was almost two. Buzzy was able to live a few months longer then he would have because of the advise of people on this list. I hope you will find it to be as helpful as I have. FeLV+ can go a long time without symptoms and some live very long lives. In the FeLV/FIV room where I volunteer there is one cat who is 22! Good luck with your positive kitty and thank you for giving him a chance. Sue Nortina Bell nort...@sympatico.ca wrote: Hello, I have been a member of this list for a few days now since I found out that our new kitty tested postive for feline leukemia. We already have one cat, Jasper, who is about 7-8 years old. The animal shelter was unsure of his age when I got him, so we aren't quite sure now either. Jasper, as a rule, really dislikes other animals. Cats, dogs, he shows them all who is boss. However, since we have moved to our new house in mid-January, we've had a stray hanging around. Jasper, who gets out every now and then even though we try not to let him, actually didn't seem to hate this other cat. I saw them actually playing together which was a surprise to me. This other cat kept trying to sneak IN the house and was so loving anyway that we just decided to adopt him once we realized we might actually be able to have another cat in the same house as Jasper (we have tried twice previous with very bad results). We kept this new cat (my kids are bent on calling him McFluffins) in the bathroom overnight while waiting for his first vet appointment to see if he would even use a litter box. I was glad to see that he did, but noticed we had an issue with worms. While at the vet they tested for FIV and feline leukemia. This is when we found that he tested positive for feline leukemia. The vet that I spoke to that day didn't really try to encourage me in making any decision, but I have to admit that I thought about having him put down. I was not really willing to though because I have already found that he is a very loving and wonderful cat and is perfectly healthy at the moment. After asking some questions about how it can progress and the implications for Jasper, I decided that we would keep him. We had another vet visit the day after for Jasper and the vet that we spoke to that day was firm that there will be issues with the stray that we took in, it is just a matter of how long until they surface. She was much less hopeful than the previous vet, but nice and informative all the same. Currently Jasper and the new cat are seperated as Jasper was behind on his vaccinations and was never vaccinated again feline leuk. I was told that, based on Jasper's age, he wasn't likely to catch it anyway, but it would be worth giving anyhow. It was suggested that they be kept apart until his second booster shot in a month after this one. Does anyone else have an experience like this? Is it really necessary to keep them seperated? I have been reading all of the posts so far but feel a little lost since I am not very knowledgable on the subject, so hopefully I will catch up soon. Nortina ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I would keep them separated for the 30 days. I am very cautious. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Nortina Bell Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:13 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro Hello, I have been a member of this list for a few days now since I found out that our new kitty tested postive for feline leukemia. We already have one cat, Jasper, who is about 7-8 years old. The animal shelter was unsure of his age when I got him, so we aren't quite sure now either. Jasper, as a rule, really dislikes other animals. Cats, dogs, he shows them all who is boss. However, since we have moved to our new house in mid-January, we've had a stray hanging around. Jasper, who gets out every now and then even though we try not to let him, actually didn't seem to hate this other cat. I saw them actually playing together which was a surprise to me. This other cat kept trying to sneak IN the house and was so loving anyway that we just decided to adopt him once we realized we might actually be able to have another cat in the same house as Jasper (we have tried twice previous with very bad results). We kept this new cat (my kids are bent on calling him McFluffins) in the bathroom overnight while waiting for his first vet appointment to see if he would even use a litter box. I was glad to see that he did, but noticed we had an issue with worms. While at the vet they tested for FIV and feline leukemia. This is when we found that he tested positive for feline leukemia. The vet that I spoke to that day didn't really try to encourage me in making any decision, but I have to admit that I thought about having him put down. I was not really willing to though because I have already found that he is a very loving and wonderful cat and is perfectly healthy at the moment. After asking some questions about how it can progress and the implications for Jasper, I decided that we would keep him. We had another vet visit the day after for Jasper and the vet that we spoke to that day was firm that there will be issues with the stray that we took in, it is just a matter of how long until they surface. She was much less hopeful than the previous vet, but nice and informative all the same. Currently Jasper and the new cat are seperated as Jasper was behind on his vaccinations and was never vaccinated again feline leuk. I was told that, based on Jasper's age, he wasn't likely to catch it anyway, but it would be worth giving anyhow. It was suggested that they be kept apart until his second booster shot in a month after this one. Does anyone else have an experience like this? Is it really necessary to keep them seperated? I have been reading all of the posts so far but feel a little lost since I am not very knowledgable on the subject, so hopefully I will catch up soon. Nortina ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My 2 FeLV+ cats lived to ages 22 and 16. Stripes, the 16 year old, was sick on and off his entire life. Squeaky was never sick until his last 3 weeks on earth. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sue Frank Koren Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:29 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Cc: Nortina Bell Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro Nortina, First of all welcome to the group. There are people here with a great deal of knowledge about this horrible disease. I have seven cats, two are positive for feline leukemia. The negative cats are all vaccinated. My oldest positve, Orlando, is 11 years old and the youngest, Tweezer, will be three. Both are asymptomatic. I lost a positive about 6 months ago to anemia. He was almost two. Buzzy was able to live a few months longer then he would have because of the advise of people on this list. I hope you will find it to be as helpful as I have. FeLV+ can go a long time without symptoms and some live very long lives. In the FeLV/FIV room where I volunteer there is one cat who is 22! Good luck with your positive kitty and thank you for giving him a chance. Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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This is a great group, glad you're here. It is unlikely that a healthy adult cat will pick up FELV through casual contact, in my own opinion. However, since this is a new cat, might as well go ahead and separate - it's a polite way to introduce them. But I know several people who mix their FELV with the non-FELV, have had them rechecked, and no transmission. I have mixed mine at times and had no problems. When I first acquired an FELV cat I was indeed paranoid, but after a while, and with a great group iike this, I learned more about it and became less paranoid. I do give interferon alpha to the FELV kitties if they're under 3-4 years old. I have 2 felv kitties that are 12-14 years old - need to retest, just hate to stress them out. :) Gloria On Apr 27, 2009, at 11:14 AM, Laurieskatz wrote: I would keep them separated for the 30 days. I am very cautious. Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Nortina Bell Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 9:13 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro Hello, I have been a member of this list for a few days now since I found out that our new kitty tested postive for feline leukemia. We already have one cat, Jasper, who is about 7-8 years old. The animal shelter was unsure of his age when I got him, so we aren't quite sure now either. Jasper, as a rule, really dislikes other animals. Cats, dogs, he shows them all who is boss. However, since we have moved to our new house in mid-January, we've had a stray hanging around. Jasper, who gets out every now and then even though we try not to let him, actually didn't seem to hate this other cat. I saw them actually playing together which was a surprise to me. This other cat kept trying to sneak IN the house and was so loving anyway that we just decided to adopt him once we realized we might actually be able to have another cat in the same house as Jasper (we have tried twice previous with very bad results). We kept this new cat (my kids are bent on calling him McFluffins) in the bathroom overnight while waiting for his first vet appointment to see if he would even use a litter box. I was glad to see that he did, but noticed we had an issue with worms. While at the vet they tested for FIV and feline leukemia. This is when we found that he tested positive for feline leukemia. The vet that I spoke to that day didn't really try to encourage me in making any decision, but I have to admit that I thought about having him put down. I was not really willing to though because I have already found that he is a very loving and wonderful cat and is perfectly healthy at the moment. After asking some questions about how it can progress and the implications for Jasper, I decided that we would keep him. We had another vet visit the day after for Jasper and the vet that we spoke to that day was firm that there will be issues with the stray that we took in, it is just a matter of how long until they surface. She was much less hopeful than the previous vet, but nice and informative all the same. Currently Jasper and the new cat are seperated as Jasper was behind on his vaccinations and was never vaccinated again feline leuk. I was told that, based on Jasper's age, he wasn't likely to catch it anyway, but it would be worth giving anyhow. It was suggested that they be kept apart until his second booster shot in a month after this one. Does anyone else have an experience like this? Is it really necessary to keep them seperated? I have been reading all of the posts so far but feel a little lost since I am not very knowledgable on the subject, so hopefully I will catch up soon. Nortina ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I can't tell you much about the seperation part as I only have the one cat, and have never had one before this one. I just want to put in my 2 cents for the idea that FeLv+ cats can live very happy lives. I have one that I've had for 2 years. he may get sick tomorrow, and he has been sick with a few things over the last 2 years but he's a happy kitty that wouldn't be here if I hadn't taken him in or had put him down when the first vet told me to. Sidney and the General ** A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1220572846x1201387511/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc =668072amp;hmpgID=62amp;bcd=Aprilfooter427NO62) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Welcome Nortina, You have already received some good advise. There is a mix of positive and negative cats in my home. My positives are relatively young with the oldest two approx 1 1/2 yrs old. Like McFluffins, love the name, they are rescues. My negative kitties have been vaccinated. I did not mix them until the negatives received their follow up 30 day booster. Could you keep McFluffins in a separate bedroom until Jasper gets his booster? Thanks for giving McFluffins a 2nd chance. Sharyl --- On Mon, 4/27/09, Nortina Bell nort...@sympatico.ca wrote: From: Nortina Bell nort...@sympatico.ca Subject: [Felvtalk] Intro To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, April 27, 2009, 10:13 AM Hello, I have been a member of this list for a few days now since I found out that our new kitty tested postive for feline leukemia. We already have one cat, Jasper, who is about 7-8 years old. The animal shelter was unsure of his age when I got him, so we aren't quite sure now either. Jasper, as a rule, really dislikes other animals. Cats, dogs, he shows them all who is boss. However, since we have moved to our new house in mid-January, we've had a stray hanging around. Jasper, who gets out every now and then even though we try not to let him, actually didn't seem to hate this other cat. I saw them actually playing together which was a surprise to me. This other cat kept trying to sneak IN the house and was so loving anyway that we just decided to adopt him once we realized we might actually be able to have another cat in the same house as Jasper (we have tried twice previous with very bad results). We kept this new cat (my kids are bent on calling him McFluffins) in the bathroom overnight while waiting for his first vet appointment to see if he would even use a litter box. I was glad to see that he did, but noticed we had an issue with worms. While at the vet they tested for FIV and feline leukemia. This is when we found that he tested positive for feline leukemia. The vet that I spoke to that day didn't really try to encourage me in making any decision, but I have to admit that I thought about having him put down. I was not really willing to though because I have already found that he is a very loving and wonderful cat and is perfectly healthy at the moment. After asking some questions about how it can progress and the implications for Jasper, I decided that we would keep him. We had another vet visit the day after for Jasper and the vet that we spoke to that day was firm that there will be issues with the stray that we took in, it is just a matter of how long until they surface. She was much less hopeful than the previous vet, but nice and informative all the same. Currently Jasper and the new cat are seperated as Jasper was behind on his vaccinations and was never vaccinated again feline leuk. I was told that, based on Jasper's age, he wasn't likely to catch it anyway, but it would be worth giving anyhow. It was suggested that they be kept apart until his second booster shot in a month after this one. Does anyone else have an experience like this? Is it really necessary to keep them seperated? I have been reading all of the posts so far but feel a little lost since I am not very knowledgable on the subject, so hopefully I will catch up soon. Nortina ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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My 2 FeLV+ cats lived to ages 22 and 16. Stripes, the 16 year old, was sick on and off his entire life. Squeaky was never sick until his last 3 weeks on earth. Laurie Laurie, With that wonderful statement, can you tell me how you cared for them - both the sick one and the well one? I would like to do exactly what you did. Thanks! Trissa in Philly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The odd thing is I didn't do anything special because I had no idea what this diagnosis meant at that time! I even had them vaccinated for feline leukemia every year (makes me wonder about the vet!). Stripes was treated with antibiotics every time he got sick. He nearly died from an injection the vet gave him once (he couldn't walk after) but he rallied. Mostly I loved them and provided a mostly stress free environment. I fed them Natural Choice and later Science Diet CD to Squeaky. They even ate Meow Mix and canned Friskies before I knew NOT to feed MM. The vet thought Squeaky was a carrier and carried the virus in his bone marrow. When I considered a companion for Squeaky after Stripes died, the vet never told me of any risk for a new kitty Not sure if this is any help at all other than to say that some kitties do well no matter what we do! Laurie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com Sent: Monday, April 27, 2009 12:38 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Intro My 2 FeLV+ cats lived to ages 22 and 16. Stripes, the 16 year old, was sick on and off his entire life. Squeaky was never sick until his last 3 weeks on earth. Laurie Laurie, With that wonderful statement, can you tell me how you cared for them - both the sick one and the well one? I would like to do exactly what you did. Thanks! Trissa in Philly ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
