Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator and FeLV
Hi Debbie I tried them for several months, and tested blood work weekly. I didn’t find the injections budged the low red cell/haematocrit/retic/platelet counts at all. However, I recall others in this group who have reported better results. Are you new to the group? I don’t want to jump in with my experiences with Winstrol if you have heard it all before. Amani From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of debbie.ka...@comcast.net Sent: January-19-17 3:12 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator and FeLV Hi, I have a 7 month old kitten that I am considering starting the T-Cell injections for him. He is presenting with possible IBD right now or GI Lymphoma. I am wondering if anyone has had cat/kitten with similar symptoms and has used the Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator injections? Also wondering if anyone has had a FeLV+ cat with confirmed (thru ultrasound) thickened intestinal walls and if you've done intestinal biopsy to determine IBD or GI Lymphoma. Thank you, Debbie K. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator and FeLV
Hi, I have a 7 month old kitten that I am considering starting the T-Cell injections for him. He is presenting with possible IBD right now or GI Lymphoma. I am wondering if anyone has had cat/kitten with similar symptoms and has used the Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator injections? Also wondering if anyone has had a FeLV+ cat with confirmed (thru ultrasound) thickened intestinal walls and if you've done intestinal biopsy to determine IBD or GI Lymphoma. Thank you, Debbie K. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator
Hello everyone, I am trying to decide if I should treat my positives with a procuct called Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator. I believe it is made by a company called Imulan and they claim to have had some success with it. I e-mailed my vet with the website and he seems to think they have not tested it enough to be certain of any results. I was just wondering if anyone on this list has heard of it or used it and what you think of it. This is a link the the website that has it. www.imulan.com/ Thank you, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator
Hi Sue The company that was originally testing the product sold it to Imulan. They decided to go ahead and market it. Anecdotal evidence shows promise. There is a lady on another group whose husband is a feline vet and was involved in some of the original trials. Although no longer involved in the studies he continues to use it on some of the FELV positive cats that he treats. The price went up considerably when it sold to Imulan. Testing is very expensive, so it may never get the testing that one would hope for after all we are talking about cats. Now before I get jumped on I am being facetious. But we do know there are people who think that way. Personally if I could have use it I would have tried. That being said I probalby could not have afforded it. Maybe your vet can get in on one of the trials if they are still conducting them. Sally in VA ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator
I believe there may be some people on this list (maybe it was another list) who have used it. Some say it is working and some say it didn't work. Your vet is correct, there has hardly been any testing done at this point. They recently started recruiting people for a trial, but it was only going to last a month and that really isn't long enough. Seems I remember there was a list member whose husband is a vet and has used it and thought it was helpful, but I don't remember her name. It might work and might not and it is very expensive. I wouldn't use it as a prophylactic, but I might try it to help with a symptomatic cat, if I could afford it. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sue Frank Koren Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:32 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator Hello everyone, I am trying to decide if I should treat my positives with a procuct called Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator. I believe it is made by a company called Imulan and they claim to have had some success with it. I e-mailed my vet with the website and he seems to think they have not tested it enough to be certain of any results. I was just wondering if anyone on this list has heard of it or used it and what you think of it. This is a link the the website that has it. www.imulan.com/ Thank you, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator
the original trials that showed promise were only conducted on 22 cats, which is not considered a statistically significant sample. nevertheless, the TREATMENT AID, as the company that bought out the product calls it, was granted provisional approval (tho not by the FDA) as SOMETHING THAT SHOWS PROMISE. the current trials they are running are not even remotely scientifically rigorous--they are four-week-long marketing ploys. ask your vet to contact the company himself and see all the secrecy involved in participating in them, and then let him/her evaluate the protocol in terms of research standards--i expect that will answer a lot of your questions. there is no evidence that the product can hurt cats, and yes, there IS promise--but if this particular one could cure FIV and FeLV as their literature claims, they'd be engaged in massive, rigidly controlled scientific trials on their own and with independent researchers to get it out into the hands of those who needed it--perhaps even at a reasonable price. lance can speak more to their deceptive marketing methods. once again, not all snake oil is GOOD snake oil (look it up on wiki.) i think it's immoral to take advantage of people's desperation. MC, who'd really like this to be the cure, but sees too many red flags waving On Tue, Mar 3, 2009 at 11:25 AM, gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: I believe there may be some people on this list (maybe it was another list) who have used it. Some say it is working and some say it didn't work. Your vet is correct, there has hardly been any testing done at this point. They recently started recruiting people for a trial, but it was only going to last a month and that really isn't long enough. Seems I remember there was a list member whose husband is a vet and has used it and thought it was helpful, but I don't remember her name. It might work and might not and it is very expensive. I wouldn't use it as a prophylactic, but I might try it to help with a symptomatic cat, if I could afford it. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sue Frank Koren Sent: Tuesday, March 03, 2009 11:32 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator Hello everyone, I am trying to decide if I should treat my positives with a procuct called Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator. I believe it is made by a company called Imulan and they claim to have had some success with it. I e-mailed my vet with the website and he seems to think they have not tested it enough to be certain of any results. I was just wondering if anyone on this list has heard of it or used it and what you think of it. This is a link the the website that has it. www.imulan.com/ Thank you, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator
Hello Sue :-) One of my cats, Puma was diagnosed as FeLV+ in January 2009, and he is currently on the medication. He is still on his 2nd month (shot every other week), so I don't know the long term effect of this medication yet, but after the 3rd shot in the first month, I noticed that he started to eat more and became more active. I wanted my vet to do the blood test after the 3rd shot, but my vet wanted to wait, so I don't know how much the medication is helping in actual numbers (red cell count, etc...) yet, but from what I observe so far, I'm hopeful...I mean...the medication may or may not cure FeLV, but at least it seems to be helping Puma's anemia (When I brought Puma to this vet for the first time in Jan. 2009, I was told that he has severe anemia and his liver kidney are failing because of FeLV) As for cost, I pay $85 for each visit. $60 for shot + $25 for administering the shot. Imulan's recommendation is to give the shot every week for the first month (but 4th one is optional), every other week for the second month, and every month after that. (upto 6th month) (So...1st month - 3 shots, 2nd month - 2 shots, 3rd/4th/5th/6th month - 1 shot = 9 shots) English is not my first language, so let me know if there is anything that is not clear - I will do my best to re-explain. I'm farely new to this group, but all of you has been helping Puma me a lot (especially emotionally), so whatever I could do to help others, I would love to!!! Hiromi Page Date: Tue, 3 Mar 2009 17:32:28 + From: fs...@roadrunner.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator Hello everyone, I am trying to decide if I should treat my positives with a procuct called Lymphocyte T-Cell Immunomodulator. I believe it is made by a company called Imulan and they claim to have had some success with it. I e-mailed my vet with the website and he seems to think they have not tested it enough to be certain of any results. I was just wondering if anyone on this list has heard of it or used it and what you think of it. This is a link the the website that has it. www.imulan.com/ Thank you, Sue ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Windows Live™ Groups: Create an online spot for your favorite groups to meet. http://windowslive.com/online/groups?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_groups_032009 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
