Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats
Cats get addicted to those little cans because they are loaded with inordinate amounts of sugar and fats (it was found that diabetes can be attributed to cats whose diet includes only those addictive foods)cats' palates get acclimated to them and eventually refuse any of the "good" foods, which are still not very good for them. I have recently read a report on pet foods - many contain flesh from shelter-killed animals, reject meat from slaughterhouses like tumors, diseased flesh, cartilage, bones, and even hides. It's a rotten shame that one can't even trust the very best and most expensive foods for our dogs and cats. There are things that one can place on top of so-called "better" foods, like those dried fish flakes, or teeny amounts of what they like just to make them eat something a little better. But if a cat doesn't want to eat at all, I always feel that something is better than nothing - as long as they get some nutrition! Some of our cats love "people" tuna in oil (not water), the dark kind, and others like sardines in oil; the smelliest being mackerel...it's a matter of trial and error. BTW - honey contains all kinds of helpful enzymes, especially the kind that isn't pasteurized! Natalie -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Friday, February 24, 2012 11:02 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats I lnow someone who used Coke in an emergency. Hey it had sugar & it worked! Marta Gasper wrote: >What hapens with giving them a dab of honey is that it boost the blood sugar >so if they might start to eat. It is the sugar, not the texture. I've a rescue >group and fosters , we always use honey in cases when a cat stops eating, >specially with kittens and anemic cats. Rub honey or Karo on their gums so it >is absorbed by the skin, sugar goes directly in their bloodstream w/o having >to use energy to break up what they swallowed. Also give sugar water by >syringe, shoot in cheek pouch. > >I wished the good foods were more palatable to cats, mine don't like >them either but they love Purina cat chow and Fancy Feast..like ppl we >are not too atracted to health food though;) Marta > > >http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ > >--- On Fri, 2/24/12, dppl dppl wrote: > > >From: dppl dppl >Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Date: Friday, February 24, 2012, 10:58 PM > > > > > >Toni, i enjoyed reading about your family and your tips. I also put a >dab of vicks vapor rub on the nose of my cat that had the respiratory >infection . I tried Wellness dry cat food but none of my cats would eat >it. They like some of the purina one dry food flavors. I tried the >Tiki brand b/c I heard it was good but after trying it my cats didn't >really want to keep eating it. they liked the tuna and chicken best or >plain tuna. I tired purina one canned but they don't really like it >that much. They like some of the fancy feast and publix brand and >target boots and barclay. I would prefer they ate foods without dyes, >etc but they seem to like the "junk" food. I give them deli low salt >turkey for a treat every now and then. Re losing hair years ago I used >to use frontline and it took the hair off the area of one of my cat's >neck and it didn't grow back for years. some of my cats foamed at the >mouth so I just gave up. I use a flea comb on them, drop the fleas in >alcohol. I have a cat fence section of my yard and have been treating >it with diamateceous earth, supposedly a natural flea killer. I have noticed >fewer fleas so i will keep trying. >Another issue is kitty litter. My cats hate any scented. Re the corn >and hard pellet, they refused to use it. I currently use Dr Eisley but >it doesn't absorb as good as it used to. > > > > > >From: dppl dppl >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:10 PM >Subject: Tips to share? > > > > > >On a different subject thought I might share this > >Re taking cats to vets: >I often forget this in the stress of trying to help a sick animal > but if you put an t shirt or towel you wore in the carrier with your >scent , it seems to calm them. Ask vet staff to put it in their kennels >if they are being transferred from the carrier they came in.. >Re getting a cat to eat: >I recently had three older cats that were sick and were being treated >with antibiotics and wouldn't eat. One had upper respiratory congestion. One >urinary infection. >One reason unknown. They were on antib
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats
I lnow someone who used Coke in an emergency. Hey it had sugar & it worked! Marta Gasper wrote: >What hapens with giving them a dab of honey is that it boost the blood sugar >so if they might start to eat. It is the sugar, not the texture. I've a rescue >group and fosters , we always use honey in cases when a cat stops eating, >specially with kittens and anemic cats. Rub honey or Karo on their gums so it >is absorbed by the skin, sugar goes directly in their bloodstream w/o having >to use energy to break up what they swallowed. Also give sugar water by >syringe, shoot in cheek pouch. > >I wished the good foods were more palatable to cats, mine don't like them >either but they love Purina cat chow and Fancy Feast..like ppl we are not too >atracted to health food though;) >Marta > > >http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ > >--- On Fri, 2/24/12, dppl dppl wrote: > > >From: dppl dppl >Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Date: Friday, February 24, 2012, 10:58 PM > > > > > >Toni, i enjoyed reading about your family and your tips. I also put a dab of >vicks vapor rub on the nose of my cat that had the respiratory infection . I >tried >Wellness dry cat food but none of my cats would eat it. They like some of >the purina one dry food flavors. I tried the Tiki brand b/c I heard it was >good but >after trying it my cats didn't really want to keep eating it. they liked the >tuna >and chicken best or plain tuna. I tired purina one canned but they >don't really like it that much. They like some of >the fancy feast and publix brand and target boots and barclay. I would prefer >they ate foods without dyes, etc but they seem to like the "junk" food. I give >them deli low salt turkey for a treat every now and then. Re losing hair >years ago I used to use frontline and it took the hair off the area of one of >my cat's neck and it didn't grow back for years. some of my cats foamed >at the mouth so I just gave up. I use a flea comb on them, drop the fleas in >alcohol. I have a cat fence section of my yard and have been treating it >with diamateceous earth, supposedly a natural flea killer. I have noticed >fewer fleas so i will keep trying. >Another issue is kitty litter. My cats hate any scented. Re the corn and hard >pellet, they refused to use it. I currently use >Dr Eisley but it doesn't absorb as good as it used to. > > > > > >From: dppl dppl >To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" >Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:10 PM >Subject: Tips to share? > > > > > >On a different subject thought I might share this > >Re taking cats to vets: >I often forget this in the stress of trying to help a sick animal > but if you put an t shirt or towel you wore in the carrier with your scent , >it >seems to calm them. Ask vet staff to put it in their kennels if they are being >transferred >from the carrier they came in.. >Re getting a cat to eat: >I recently had three older cats that were sick and were being treated with >antibiotics >and wouldn't eat. One had upper respiratory congestion. One urinary infection. >One reason unknown. They were on antibiotics but still wouldn't eat. >Sometimes antibiotics upset stomach. >Searched the internet and found a suggestion to put a dab of honey in >their mouth. Don't know if coincidence or the antibiotics kicking in > but it seemed to help them maybe soothed >sore throat or stomach. I only put a dime sized drop on outer lips once or >twice . I am not a vet so >if you are thinking of trying this,. >Check with your vet first, as i did to make sure no harm given your cat's >specific condition.. >one of the sites mentioning honey is >mia-carter.suite101.com/why-isnt-my-cat-eating-a60630 >has anyone else had experience with this home remedy? >Cat with upper respiratory infection: >I also put my cat in the bathroom when i took a steaming shower. I think >it really helped. > > > > > >-Inline Attachment Follows- > > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > >___ >Felvtalk mailing list >Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats
What hapens with giving them a dab of honey is that it boost the blood sugar so if they might start to eat. It is the sugar, not the texture. I've a rescue group and fosters , we always use honey in cases when a cat stops eating, specially with kittens and anemic cats. Rub honey or Karo on their gums so it is absorbed by the skin, sugar goes directly in their bloodstream w/o having to use energy to break up what they swallowed. Also give sugar water by syringe, shoot in cheek pouch. I wished the good foods were more palatable to cats, mine don't like them either but they love Purina cat chow and Fancy Feast..like ppl we are not too atracted to health food though;) Marta http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ --- On Fri, 2/24/12, dppl dppl wrote: From: dppl dppl Subject: [Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Date: Friday, February 24, 2012, 10:58 PM Toni, i enjoyed reading about your family and your tips. I also put a dab of vicks vapor rub on the nose of my cat that had the respiratory infection . I tried Wellness dry cat food but none of my cats would eat it. They like some of the purina one dry food flavors. I tried the Tiki brand b/c I heard it was good but after trying it my cats didn't really want to keep eating it. they liked the tuna and chicken best or plain tuna. I tired purina one canned but they don't really like it that much. They like some of the fancy feast and publix brand and target boots and barclay. I would prefer they ate foods without dyes, etc but they seem to like the "junk" food. I give them deli low salt turkey for a treat every now and then. Re losing hair years ago I used to use frontline and it took the hair off the area of one of my cat's neck and it didn't grow back for years. some of my cats foamed at the mouth so I just gave up. I use a flea comb on them, drop the fleas in alcohol. I have a cat fence section of my yard and have been treating it with diamateceous earth, supposedly a natural flea killer. I have noticed fewer fleas so i will keep trying. Another issue is kitty litter. My cats hate any scented. Re the corn and hard pellet, they refused to use it. I currently use Dr Eisley but it doesn't absorb as good as it used to. From: dppl dppl To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:10 PM Subject: Tips to share? On a different subject thought I might share this Re taking cats to vets: I often forget this in the stress of trying to help a sick animal but if you put an t shirt or towel you wore in the carrier with your scent , it seems to calm them. Ask vet staff to put it in their kennels if they are being transferred from the carrier they came in.. Re getting a cat to eat: I recently had three older cats that were sick and were being treated with antibiotics and wouldn't eat. One had upper respiratory congestion. One urinary infection. One reason unknown. They were on antibiotics but still wouldn't eat. Sometimes antibiotics upset stomach. Searched the internet and found a suggestion to put a dab of honey in their mouth. Don't know if coincidence or the antibiotics kicking in but it seemed to help them maybe soothed sore throat or stomach. I only put a dime sized drop on outer lips once or twice . I am not a vet so if you are thinking of trying this,. Check with your vet first, as i did to make sure no harm given your cat's specific condition.. one of the sites mentioning honey is mia-carter.suite101.com/why-isnt-my-cat-eating-a60630 has anyone else had experience with this home remedy? Cat with upper respiratory infection: I also put my cat in the bathroom when i took a steaming shower. I think it really helped. -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats
Toni, i enjoyed reading about your family and your tips. I also put a dab of vicks vapor rub on the nose of my cat that had the respiratory infection . I tried Wellness dry cat food but none of my cats would eat it. They like some of the purina one dry food flavors. I tried the Tiki brand b/c I heard it was good but after trying it my cats didn't really want to keep eating it. they liked the tuna and chicken best or plain tuna. I tired purina one canned but they don't really like it that much. They like some of the fancy feast and publix brand and target boots and barclay. I would prefer they ate foods without dyes, etc but they seem to like the "junk" food. I give them deli low salt turkey for a treat every now and then. Re losing hair years ago I used to use frontline and it took the hair off the area of one of my cat's neck and it didn't grow back for years. some of my cats foamed at the mouth so I just gave up. I use a flea comb on them, drop the fleas in alcohol. I have a cat fence section of my yard and have been treating it with diamateceous earth, supposedly a natural flea killer. I have noticed fewer fleas so i will keep trying. Another issue is kitty litter. My cats hate any scented. Re the corn and hard pellet, they refused to use it. I currently use Dr Eisley but it doesn't absorb as good as it used to. From: dppl dppl To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 3:10 PM Subject: Tips to share? On a different subject thought I might share this Re taking cats to vets: I often forget this in the stress of trying to help a sick animal but if you put an t shirt or towel you wore in the carrier with your scent , it seems to calm them. Ask vet staff to put it in their kennels if they are being transferred from the carrier they came in.. Re getting a cat to eat: I recently had three older cats that were sick and were being treated with antibiotics and wouldn't eat. One had upper respiratory congestion. One urinary infection. One reason unknown. They were on antibiotics but still wouldn't eat. Sometimes antibiotics upset stomach. Searched the internet and found a suggestion to put a dab of honey in their mouth. Don't know if coincidence or the antibiotics kicking in but it seemed to help them maybe soothed sore throat or stomach. I only put a dime sized drop on outer lips once or twice . I am not a vet so if you are thinking of trying this,. Check with your vet first, as i did to make sure no harm given your cat's specific condition.. one of the sites mentioning honey is mia-carter.suite101.com/why-isnt-my-cat-eating-a60630 has anyone else had experience with this home remedy? Cat with upper respiratory infection: I also put my cat in the bathroom when i took a steaming shower. I think it really helped.___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Mixing pos and neg cats
Mixing pos and negs and the use of honey.. I have 3 cats one pos and the other two are neg, I use the ultra violet water bowl, and the cat genie litter box, All three are great and healthy, I also have 2 ferrets, 2 kids with Aspergers autism, military homeschooling household, hectic to say the least. Foods I am using Blue wilderness salmon, with added broth for water to keep down dehydration, cans I am using are Blue or Wellness, I check ingredients and they get one can a day, the ages of my cats are 3 Princess, she is pos, she wondered in to the house one day, the other two we adopted from the shelter, Jessie, 6 mth, Lolliepop is 2. I know what a name for cat, the ferrets are3 and 2 yrs old, Soda and Popper, with Princess everything is good the vet thinks she is in remission but she is balding, is that normal? Around her ears and the collar so I took off her collar. I also use honey when I brush their teeth as a reward and to make them drink after, if I don't they do not drink to wash out their mouths, should I use a bulb to wash it out for them ? Maybe instead. Also I use a Vicks type when they get sick and echinacea goldenseal once a week just one drop in canned food, the Vicks is for small animals upper respiratory health and I also but them in the bathroom for the steam relief , the bottle is labeled ferret R x but it works great just a dab on the chin and top of the nose. I didn't know if any one else had tried home remedies, and am very glad I found this site because my neighbors are upset for me keeping her alive and around the other 2 cats.now she does not play or clean the other 2cats she is very loving and loves to be inside, I still don't who she belonged to before but she does not want anything to with outside, thank goodness, all my neighbors have dogs, I think that is how she ended up in my backyard. Just don't know if any of this will help any one but the vet thinks that is why they are all doing so well, now if I can address my sneezing and itchy eyes, I rub them down with dryer sheets that have not been used and when brushing I use half downy and water in a spray bottle, it is more the hair falling then flying in the air, saliva is what is said to cause cat allergies for humans, so I don't know really I just know it helps me live with them since they all like to sleep right at my head and no one elses, no one else is allergic why do they target me.? Oh well, a very good lesson for the kids and a good addition to them family, I can't afford the best of care so I do a lot of research, any help would be great , Princess has stolen my heart, I want her to make it, she is the first animal I have been able to bond with since my dog was killed by the neighbors dogs in 09 he was my mother s day present when we moved to Texas in 07. Ok well thanks for listening anyway On Feb 23, 2012, at 12:00 PM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org wrote: > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to >felvtalk@felineleukemia.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at >felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Neutering a positive cat update (dppl dppl) > 2. Tips to share? (dppl dppl) > 3. Re: Neutering a positive cat update (Beth) > 4. Re: FIP (czadna sacarawicz) > 5. Re: Neutering a positive cat update (GRAS) > 6. Re: Neutering a positive cat update (dlg...@windstream.net) > 7. Re: FIP (GRAS) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 12:00:18 -0800 (PST) > From: dppl dppl > To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" > Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering a positive cat update > Message-ID: ><1329940818.92422.yahoomail...@web65905.mail.ac4.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > ?My little found positive kitten, now growing cat I found was neutered last > week. He came thru ok.? As a precaution, > the vet gave fluids during the surgery b/c his bloodwork showed slightly > elevated in one of the kidney function > areas which the vet thought might be due to dehydration. > Sadly, he tested positive under the IFA test after testing positive under > ELISA in Nov. But he?seems ok. Unfortunately > I have to keep him isolated.?Both tests were sent out, the ELISA cost 55 and > the IFA 85. > Is this the norm? If I didn't have other cats, I don't think I > would?do routine testing?if the cat was not showing any symptoms and i kept > the cat indoors. > -- next part -- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: >