[Felvtalk] Vaccinating FELV+ cats for FELV
I haven't ever heard of any research that indicates what could happen if you vaccinate an FELV+ cat for FELV. Most people seem to assume that it would make no difference to the course of the FELV disease but I don't think that is based on real information. I thought the reason vets almost always recommend against it is that injection induced sarcoma - or tumor growth at the injection site - is highest for the FELV vaccine (although still very minimal). So vaccinating for FELV when not necessary is subjecting the cat to the risk of the tumor growth at the injection site. One might want to run the risk of tumor growth if there was a beneficial affect in terms of length of life with the vaccination. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating FELV+ cats for FELV
there are now internasal (?) FeLV vaccines, and once the connection between rabies and FeLV vaccines and Injection-Site-Sarcoma (ISS) was recognized, most of the companies removed the adjuvent which was suspected as the cause. now, however, research suggests that ISS -- formerly known as VAS, Vaccine-Associated Sarcoma -- has to do with the fact that for years and years and years, both in practice in general and in each cat in specific, all injections were given in the scruff of the neck, in roughly the same place.. the new vaccination protocols call for injecting different vaccines in different places, which identifies the culprit-vaccine should a reaction occur, protects from the repeated trauma to one site, and with the suggestion of vaccines administered in legs, allows for much easier treatment should a sarcoma develop. (much easier to amputate a leg after all.) if the archives are still available, and not lost in one of the server burps, could someone go back and find the whole discussion we had 2 or 3 years ago about this? there were a lot of anecdotal cases of vaccinated positives living much longer lives than most of us get to enjoy with our FeLVs--maybe if someone had the time to pull them out, ask the question again on this and other lists to get more reports, someone could present it to dr pedersen or dr levy, or as was suggested to me, to the folks at winn feline foundation (if we can get a professional researcher interested, they give annual grants..). MC On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 1:56 PM, patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote: I haven't ever heard of any research that indicates what could happen if you vaccinate an FELV+ cat for FELV. Most people seem to assume that it would make no difference to the course of the FELV disease but I don't think that is based on real information. I thought the reason vets almost always recommend against it is that injection induced sarcoma - or tumor growth at the injection site - is highest for the FELV vaccine (although still very minimal). So vaccinating for FELV when not necessary is subjecting the cat to the risk of the tumor growth at the injection site. One might want to run the risk of tumor growth if there was a beneficial affect in terms of length of life with the vaccination. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating FELV+ cats for FELV
One might want to select a less than lethal site for the injection though. On Feb 20, 2009, at 12:56 PM, patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote: I haven't ever heard of any research that indicates what could happen if you vaccinate an FELV+ cat for FELV. Most people seem to assume that it would make no difference to the course of the FELV disease but I don't think that is based on real information. I thought the reason vets almost always recommend against it is that injection induced sarcoma - or tumor growth at the injection site - is highest for the FELV vaccine (although still very minimal). So vaccinating for FELV when not necessary is subjecting the cat to the risk of the tumor growth at the injection site. One might want to run the risk of tumor growth if there was a beneficial affect in terms of length of life with the vaccination. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccinating FELV+ cats for FELV
isn't that what i was saying? that's the point of the new protocols where each sort of shot is given in a different leg, or different body part, and NOT in the scruff On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:10 PM, Cougar Clan maima...@duo-county.comwrote: One might want to select a less than lethal site for the injection though. On Feb 20, 2009, at 12:56 PM, patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote: I haven't ever heard of any research that indicates what could happen if you vaccinate an FELV+ cat for FELV. Most people seem to assume that it would make no difference to the course of the FELV disease but I don't think that is based on real information. I thought the reason vets almost always recommend against it is that injection induced sarcoma - or tumor growth at the injection site - is highest for the FELV vaccine (although still very minimal). So vaccinating for FELV when not necessary is subjecting the cat to the risk of the tumor growth at the injection site. One might want to run the risk of tumor growth if there was a beneficial affect in terms of length of life with the vaccination. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Marylyn, Copper Thomas ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org) Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
