Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question (Maureen)

2011-11-19 Thread Lorrie
On 11-17, Maureen Olvey wrote:
I  kind of have to vaccinate.  I brought in a FeLV positive kitten and
since  I  doubt I will be able to adopt her out I need to vaccinate my
others  because  I'm  not  planning on keeping them separated forever.
Maybe  I  should  but I don't have the set up for that.  I hate over -
vaccinating  too  but  I think I have to in this case. 

I have to vaccinate for FelV too, and I simply hate to do it. However,
I recently discovered that two of the cats in the shelter/sanctuary 
building I own are FelV pos.  They have mixed with all the other cats
there for years and none have had FelV vaccinations. Currently they
are all healthy.  These are not my 15 cats at home. They are all 
FelV neg and are never with my sanctuary cats.

Anyway, I'd also like to know which of the FelV vaccinations are the
best and least likely to cause VAS.

Lorrie



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Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question

2011-11-19 Thread katskat1
Maureen-

Maybe she will be one of the lucky ones who fights it off.  Whether
she does or not, I will always be ready to take her and love her for
as long as she has.

I am willing to bet she and Koko Kitty (the blind terror) would
totally tear the house apart playing with each other.  Add in the 75#
Samoyed mix, Polar Bear and the puppy, Charlie and I will pitch a tent
to live in and give them the house!

If you keep her that is great but be sure I would LOVE to give her a
home with my fur babies if you aren't able to.

Let me know how she does no matter what your decision!

Kat

On 11/19/11, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Thanks Kat.

 I can keep her but I'd rather not because my house is full of foster
 failures as it is!  I love them all but I wish I could have found homes for
 more of them.  If for some reason I can't find her a home then she can
 always stay with me.  Don't worry, I won't be putting her down.

 I'll definitely think about your offer though.  I might need a nice drive to
 KY or OH to get away from my mad house for a few days  ;-) Really
 though, I will think about it.  I have a couple of friends with family up
 that way so I might find out when they're heading up.  I'll let you know.
 You would totally love her.  She is so sweet.  She really loves attention
 and follows me around.  Kind of a laid back little girl.  She likes to play
 of course like all kittens but she's also happy just hanging out.

 I'm hoping her IFA will be negative which would mean she still has a chance
 of extinguishing the virus.  I wouldn't expect a kitten to be able to fight
 off the virus but you just never know.  I'm going to wait a couple weeks
 before doing that test but will definitely think about your offer and see if
 there's a way to work out the transporting.

 “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
 profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark
 Twain

 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:28:59 -0500
 From: katsk...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question

 Maureen
 I have 3 grown dogs, 1 puppy and 9 cats.  Of the cats, 1 is about 11 -
 12 years old and in the final stages of FeLV having tested positive
 years ago.  One of the others had her eyes removed at 4 weeks because
 of severe infections but is now 6 months old and the ruler of the
 house.  Because I had one other FeLV+ cat besides the one I have now,
 I have kept up yearly vaccinations on all my others.

 That said, I live in S Ohio and if nobody can take your kitty I would
 be willing to try if someone can assist with transporting her.  I
 can't dirve the entire way but could meet someone in KY maybe if you
 can't find her a home?

 She would be totally indoors, spoiled and probably end up wrestling
 with the puppy and blind Koko Kitty just as the others do so she most
 definitely would not lack for play opportunities.

 Has she been spayed?

 If nobody nearer to you can adopt her and you don't feel you can keep
 her let me know if you are interested in trying to work something out
 with me.

 I had a Siamese years ago and miss her still.  Would love to have another.

 Thanks
 kat

 On 11/17/11, Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:
  Big markup on vaccines, but they have to make a living too! I don't know
  of
  any vets out here that are rolling in cash, quite a few of them are
  concerned about being fair to farmers, etc. But, back to the rabies
  vaccine,
  a lot of cities dictate how often a rabies vaccine has to be given,
  which to
  me, is ridiculous. Where I'm from, a three year vaccine is only
  recognized
  for 2 years. And i'm sure that all of you know, the average Joe thinks
  that
  is A OK!   Same with panleukopenia vaccine. It lasts forever.
 
  Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas
  2010.
 
  On Nov 17, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com
  wrote:
 
  I kind of have to vaccinate.  I brought in a FeLV positive kitten and
  since I doubt I will be able to adopt her out I need to vaccinate my
  others because I'm not planning on keeping them separated forever.
  Maybe
  I should but I don't have the set up for that.  I hate over -
  vaccinating
  too but I think I have to in this case.  Unless there's someone like
  Beth
  that lives in the Atlanta area that wants to take her and try to adopt
  her
  out  ;-)She is a beautiful 12 week old blue point siamese kitten.
  Appears healthy as a horse.  I had the ELISA done twice (once sent to
  the
  lab) so I know she's positive.  I hope she can extinguish the virus but
  since she's a kitten I'm a little worried.  Im going to follow up with
  an
  IFA to see if the virus has progressed into her white blood cells so
  that
  will tell me if she has

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question

2011-11-18 Thread katskat1
Maureen
I have 3 grown dogs, 1 puppy and 9 cats.  Of the cats, 1 is about 11 -
12 years old and in the final stages of FeLV having tested positive
years ago.  One of the others had her eyes removed at 4 weeks because
of severe infections but is now 6 months old and the ruler of the
house.  Because I had one other FeLV+ cat besides the one I have now,
I have kept up yearly vaccinations on all my others.

That said, I live in S Ohio and if nobody can take your kitty I would
be willing to try if someone can assist with transporting her.  I
can't dirve the entire way but could meet someone in KY maybe if you
can't find her a home?

She would be totally indoors, spoiled and probably end up wrestling
with the puppy and blind Koko Kitty just as the others do so she most
definitely would not lack for play opportunities.

Has she been spayed?

If nobody nearer to you can adopt her and you don't feel you can keep
her let me know if you are interested in trying to work something out
with me.

I had a Siamese years ago and miss her still.  Would love to have another.

Thanks
kat

On 11/17/11, Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:
 Big markup on vaccines, but they have to make a living too! I don't know of
 any vets out here that are rolling in cash, quite a few of them are
 concerned about being fair to farmers, etc. But, back to the rabies vaccine,
 a lot of cities dictate how often a rabies vaccine has to be given, which to
 me, is ridiculous. Where I'm from, a three year vaccine is only recognized
 for 2 years. And i'm sure that all of you know, the average Joe thinks that
 is A OK!   Same with panleukopenia vaccine. It lasts forever.

 Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas
 2010.

 On Nov 17, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I kind of have to vaccinate.  I brought in a FeLV positive kitten and
 since I doubt I will be able to adopt her out I need to vaccinate my
 others because I'm not planning on keeping them separated forever.  Maybe
 I should but I don't have the set up for that.  I hate over - vaccinating
 too but I think I have to in this case.  Unless there's someone like Beth
 that lives in the Atlanta area that wants to take her and try to adopt her
 out  ;-)She is a beautiful 12 week old blue point siamese kitten.
 Appears healthy as a horse.  I had the ELISA done twice (once sent to the
 lab) so I know she's positive.  I hope she can extinguish the virus but
 since she's a kitten I'm a little worried.  Im going to follow up with an
 IFA to see if the virus has progressed into her white blood cells so that
 will tell me if she has a chance of extinguishing the virus.  Back to the
 point, anyone wants a 12 week old blue point siamese kitten let me know.

 Not to scare you but as a side note - testing doesn't always prevent you
 from bringing in a positive kitty.  I tested all  my cats and kittens and
 they always came up negative yet I had one die from FeLV when she was two
 years old.  No other kitties in my house got it from her, even my FIV
 kitty.  The vet had some thoughts of how that happened but anyway if you
 test a kitten and she shows up negative it may be that the virus hasn't
 had time to show on the snap test.  Not a comforting thought I know.

 Still, I wouldn't vaccinate my cats if I hadn't brought in this FeLV
 kitten in because like most everyone I hate over-vaccinating.  I just knew
 her first snap test was a false positive so I wanted to give her a shot.
 But now that she's been here two weeks and is even more healthy I just
 can't put her down.  I'm going to try to adopt her out even though I doubt
 I'll be successful.  But in the meantime she needs to get out of that one
 room and play.

 Another interesting fact - a couple years ago I read there was a study
 done on the rabies vaccine and they found that kittens vaccinated at 12 or
 16 weeks old still had immunity 4 years later.  And that was just the
 normal one year rabies vaccine.  Crazy huh?  I think the American
 Association of Veterinarians something or another sets the vaccination
 protocols but they're all vets so of course they're going to recommend
 vaccinating as much as possible.


 “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
 profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark
 Twain

 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:38:18 -0800
 From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question

 I would be very, very cautious about vaccinating a cat agaimst FeLv.
 Several people I know had the miserable experience of their cat
 contracting leukemia after being vaccinated. I wouldn't swear that the
 vaccine was the source of the infection but these cats were not ever
 outside the house.  They were not exposed

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question

2011-11-18 Thread Maureen Olvey

Thanks Kat.

I can keep her but I'd rather not because my house is full of foster failures 
as it is!  I love them all but I wish I could have found homes for more of 
them.  If for some reason I can't find her a home then she can always stay with 
me.  Don't worry, I won't be putting her down.

I'll definitely think about your offer though.  I might need a nice drive to KY 
or OH to get away from my mad house for a few days  ;-) Really though, I 
will think about it.  I have a couple of friends with family up that way so I 
might find out when they're heading up.  I'll let you know.  You would totally 
love her.  She is so sweet.  She really loves attention and follows me around.  
Kind of a laid back little girl.  She likes to play of course like all kittens 
but she's also happy just hanging out.

I'm hoping her IFA will be negative which would mean she still has a chance of 
extinguishing the virus.  I wouldn't expect a kitten to be able to fight off 
the virus but you just never know.  I'm going to wait a couple weeks before 
doing that test but will definitely think about your offer and see if there's a 
way to work out the transporting.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

 Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 23:28:59 -0500
 From: katsk...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question
 
 Maureen
 I have 3 grown dogs, 1 puppy and 9 cats.  Of the cats, 1 is about 11 -
 12 years old and in the final stages of FeLV having tested positive
 years ago.  One of the others had her eyes removed at 4 weeks because
 of severe infections but is now 6 months old and the ruler of the
 house.  Because I had one other FeLV+ cat besides the one I have now,
 I have kept up yearly vaccinations on all my others.
 
 That said, I live in S Ohio and if nobody can take your kitty I would
 be willing to try if someone can assist with transporting her.  I
 can't dirve the entire way but could meet someone in KY maybe if you
 can't find her a home?
 
 She would be totally indoors, spoiled and probably end up wrestling
 with the puppy and blind Koko Kitty just as the others do so she most
 definitely would not lack for play opportunities.
 
 Has she been spayed?
 
 If nobody nearer to you can adopt her and you don't feel you can keep
 her let me know if you are interested in trying to work something out
 with me.
 
 I had a Siamese years ago and miss her still.  Would love to have another.
 
 Thanks
 kat
 
 On 11/17/11, Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:
  Big markup on vaccines, but they have to make a living too! I don't know of
  any vets out here that are rolling in cash, quite a few of them are
  concerned about being fair to farmers, etc. But, back to the rabies vaccine,
  a lot of cities dictate how often a rabies vaccine has to be given, which to
  me, is ridiculous. Where I'm from, a three year vaccine is only recognized
  for 2 years. And i'm sure that all of you know, the average Joe thinks that
  is A OK!   Same with panleukopenia vaccine. It lasts forever.
 
  Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas
  2010.
 
  On Nov 17, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:
 
  I kind of have to vaccinate.  I brought in a FeLV positive kitten and
  since I doubt I will be able to adopt her out I need to vaccinate my
  others because I'm not planning on keeping them separated forever.  Maybe
  I should but I don't have the set up for that.  I hate over - vaccinating
  too but I think I have to in this case.  Unless there's someone like Beth
  that lives in the Atlanta area that wants to take her and try to adopt her
  out  ;-)She is a beautiful 12 week old blue point siamese kitten.
  Appears healthy as a horse.  I had the ELISA done twice (once sent to the
  lab) so I know she's positive.  I hope she can extinguish the virus but
  since she's a kitten I'm a little worried.  Im going to follow up with an
  IFA to see if the virus has progressed into her white blood cells so that
  will tell me if she has a chance of extinguishing the virus.  Back to the
  point, anyone wants a 12 week old blue point siamese kitten let me know.
 
  Not to scare you but as a side note - testing doesn't always prevent you
  from bringing in a positive kitty.  I tested all  my cats and kittens and
  they always came up negative yet I had one die from FeLV when she was two
  years old.  No other kitties in my house got it from her, even my FIV
  kitty.  The vet had some thoughts of how that happened but anyway if you
  test a kitten and she shows up negative it may be that the virus hasn't
  had time to show on the snap test.  Not a comforting thought I know.
 
  Still, I wouldn't

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question

2011-11-17 Thread Natalie
Why do you feel that your cats need to be vaccinated at all?  Are they at
risk of exposure? Vaccinate your cats ONLY according to their lifestyles!
Remember, even the protocol for regular FVRCP is now every three years...

Fort Dodge doesn't have a stellar reputation.that's all I know.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:37 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question

 

I've got to have a couple of my cats vaccinated against FeLV.  I've heard
you guys talk about the different makers of the vaccinations but I can't
remember what the best ones were.  Seems like I remember hearing about Fort
Dodge and some others but if anyone has had problems with a certain type of
vaccination by a certain maker please let me know.

I don't think I'm going to do the Vet Jet so I just wanted to know about the
regular FeLV vaccinations.

Thanks.

Maureen

I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
Twain 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question

2011-11-17 Thread Lee Evans
I would be very, very cautious about vaccinating a cat agaimst FeLv.  Several 
people I know had the miserable experience of their cat contracting leukemia 
after being vaccinated. I wouldn't swear that the vaccine was the source of the 
infection but these cats were not ever outside the house.  They were not 
exposed to any other cats.  They may have had the disorder lurking in their 
bone marrow and the vaccine sensitized them to getting the illness or they may 
have gotten it from the vaccine.  In addition, there's the danger of 
vaccine-site sarcoma. I have had cats living with me for most of my life. Most 
of them survive well into what is considered old age for cats - 16 to 20 
years.  Simply testing cats before adding them to my community assures that 
they will not be exposed to FeLv. I don't vaccinate, except when I send cats to 
adoption. FVRCP is required for that.  Of course, the rabies vaccine is 
required by law in most States but other than
 that, I feel that veterinarians push vaccines for cats for all the wrong 
reasons.
 
Lee



From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvt...@felineleukemia.orgi
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question


Why do you feel that your cats need to be vaccinated at all?  Are they at risk 
of exposure? Vaccinate your cats ONLY according to their lifestyles!  Remember, 
even the protocol for regular FVRCP is now every three years…..
Fort Dodge doesn’t have a stellar reputation…that’s all I know.
 
From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:37 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question
 
I've got to have a couple of my cats vaccinated against FeLV.  I've heard you 
guys talk about the different makers of the vaccinations but I can't remember 
what the best ones were.  Seems like I remember hearing about Fort Dodge and 
some others but if anyone has had problems with a certain type of vaccination 
by a certain maker please let me know.

I don't think I'm going to do the Vet Jet so I just wanted to know about the 
regular FeLV vaccinations.

Thanks.

Maureen

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
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Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question

2011-11-17 Thread Sharyl
It really depends on your cat's life style.  It is an indoor/outdoor kitty.  If 
so then definitely get the FeLV vaccine.  Despite Lee's experience I would not 
hesitate to use the FeLV vaccine if the kitty is indoor/outdoor, if you foster 
kitties for a rescue, if you plan on bringing a FeLV kitty into your home.  
 
Over the years I have rescued 10 FeLV kittens.  All became indoor only kitties 
and were mixed with my negative cats.  All my negative cats were adults and I 
kept them current on their FeLV vaccine.
 
Like others I do not believe in unnecessary vaccines.
Sharyl



From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 2:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question


I would be very, very cautious about vaccinating a cat agaimst FeLv.  Several 
people I know had the miserable experience of their cat contracting leukemia 
after being vaccinated. I wouldn't swear that the vaccine was the source of the 
infection but these cats were not ever outside the house.  They were not 
exposed to any other cats.  They may have had the disorder lurking in their 
bone marrow and the vaccine sensitized them to getting the illness or they may 
have gotten it from the vaccine.  In addition, there's the danger of 
vaccine-site sarcoma. I have had cats living with me for most of my life. Most 
of them survive well into what is considered old age for cats - 16 to 20 
years.  Simply testing cats before adding them to my community assures that 
they will not be exposed to FeLv. I don't vaccinate, except when I send cats to 
adoption. FVRCP is required for that.  Of course, the rabies vaccine is 
required by law in most States but other than
 that, I feel that veterinarians push vaccines for cats for all the wrong 
reasons. 
  
Lee 
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question

2011-11-17 Thread Maureen Olvey

I kind of have to vaccinate.  I brought in a FeLV positive kitten and since I 
doubt I will be able to adopt her out I need to vaccinate my others because I'm 
not planning on keeping them separated forever.  Maybe I should but I don't 
have the set up for that.  I hate over - vaccinating too but I think I have to 
in this case.  Unless there's someone like Beth that lives in the Atlanta area 
that wants to take her and try to adopt her out  ;-)She is a beautiful 12 
week old blue point siamese kitten.  Appears healthy as a horse.  I had the 
ELISA done twice (once sent to the lab) so I know she's positive.  I hope she 
can extinguish the virus but since she's a kitten I'm a little worried.  Im 
going to follow up with an IFA to see if the virus has progressed into her 
white blood cells so that will tell me if she has a chance of extinguishing the 
virus.  Back to the point, anyone wants a 12 week old blue point siamese kitten 
let me know.
 
Not to scare you but as a side note - testing doesn't always prevent you from 
bringing in a positive kitty.  I tested all  my cats and kittens and they 
always came up negative yet I had one die from FeLV when she was two years old. 
 No other kitties in my house got it from her, even my FIV kitty.  The vet had 
some thoughts of how that happened but anyway if you test a kitten and she 
shows up negative it may be that the virus hasn't had time to show on the snap 
test.  Not a comforting thought I know.  
 
Still, I wouldn't vaccinate my cats if I hadn't brought in this FeLV kitten in 
because like most everyone I hate over-vaccinating.  I just knew her first snap 
test was a false positive so I wanted to give her a shot.  But now that she's 
been here two weeks and is even more healthy I just can't put her down.  I'm 
going to try to adopt her out even though I doubt I'll be successful.  But in 
the meantime she needs to get out of that one room and play.
 
Another interesting fact - a couple years ago I read there was a study done on 
the rabies vaccine and they found that kittens vaccinated at 12 or 16 weeks old 
still had immunity 4 years later.  And that was just the normal one year rabies 
vaccine.  Crazy huh?  I think the American Association of Veterinarians 
something or another sets the vaccination protocols but they're all vets so of 
course they're going to recommend vaccinating as much as possible.
 

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 



Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:38:18 -0800
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question



I would be very, very cautious about vaccinating a cat agaimst FeLv.  Several 
people I know had the miserable experience of their cat contracting leukemia 
after being vaccinated. I wouldn't swear that the vaccine was the source of the 
infection but these cats were not ever outside the house.  They were not 
exposed to any other cats.  They may have had the disorder lurking in their 
bone marrow and the vaccine sensitized them to getting the illness or they may 
have gotten it from the vaccine.  In addition, there's the danger of 
vaccine-site sarcoma. I have had cats living with me for most of my life. Most 
of them survive well into what is considered old age for cats - 16 to 20 years. 
 Simply testing cats before adding them to my community assures that they will 
not be exposed to FeLv. I don't vaccinate, except when I send cats to adoption. 
FVRCP is required for that.  Of course, the rabies vaccine is required by law 
in most States but other than that, I feel that veterinarians push vaccines for 
cats for all the wrong reasons.
 
Lee




From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvt...@felineleukemia.orgi
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question







Why do you feel that your cats need to be vaccinated at all?  Are they at risk 
of exposure? Vaccinate your cats ONLY according to their lifestyles!  Remember, 
even the protocol for regular FVRCP is now every three years…..
Fort Dodge doesn’t have a stellar reputation…that’s all I know.
 


From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 1:37 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question
 

I've got to have a couple of my cats vaccinated against FeLV.  I've heard you 
guys talk about the different makers of the vaccinations but I can't remember 
what the best ones were.  Seems like I remember hearing about Fort Dodge and 
some others but if anyone has had problems with a certain type of vaccination 
by a certain maker please let me know.

I don't think I'm going to do

Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question

2011-11-17 Thread Marcia Baronda
Big markup on vaccines, but they have to make a living too! I don't know of any 
vets out here that are rolling in cash, quite a few of them are concerned about 
being fair to farmers, etc. But, back to the rabies vaccine, a lot of cities 
dictate how often a rabies vaccine has to be given, which to me, is ridiculous. 
Where I'm from, a three year vaccine is only recognized for 2 years. And i'm 
sure that all of you know, the average Joe thinks that is A OK!   Same with 
panleukopenia vaccine. It lasts forever.

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Nov 17, 2011, at 5:28 PM, Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:

 I kind of have to vaccinate.  I brought in a FeLV positive kitten and since I 
 doubt I will be able to adopt her out I need to vaccinate my others because 
 I'm not planning on keeping them separated forever.  Maybe I should but I 
 don't have the set up for that.  I hate over - vaccinating too but I think I 
 have to in this case.  Unless there's someone like Beth that lives in the 
 Atlanta area that wants to take her and try to adopt her out  ;-)She is a 
 beautiful 12 week old blue point siamese kitten.  Appears healthy as a horse. 
  I had the ELISA done twice (once sent to the lab) so I know she's positive.  
 I hope she can extinguish the virus but since she's a kitten I'm a little 
 worried.  Im going to follow up with an IFA to see if the virus has 
 progressed into her white blood cells so that will tell me if she has a 
 chance of extinguishing the virus.  Back to the point, anyone wants a 12 week 
 old blue point siamese kitten let me know.
  
 Not to scare you but as a side note - testing doesn't always prevent you from 
 bringing in a positive kitty.  I tested all  my cats and kittens and they 
 always came up negative yet I had one die from FeLV when she was two years 
 old.  No other kitties in my house got it from her, even my FIV kitty.  The 
 vet had some thoughts of how that happened but anyway if you test a kitten 
 and she shows up negative it may be that the virus hasn't had time to show on 
 the snap test.  Not a comforting thought I know.  
  
 Still, I wouldn't vaccinate my cats if I hadn't brought in this FeLV kitten 
 in because like most everyone I hate over-vaccinating.  I just knew her first 
 snap test was a false positive so I wanted to give her a shot.  But now that 
 she's been here two weeks and is even more healthy I just can't put her down. 
  I'm going to try to adopt her out even though I doubt I'll be successful.  
 But in the meantime she needs to get out of that one room and play.
  
 Another interesting fact - a couple years ago I read there was a study done 
 on the rabies vaccine and they found that kittens vaccinated at 12 or 16 
 weeks old still had immunity 4 years later.  And that was just the normal one 
 year rabies vaccine.  Crazy huh?  I think the American Association of 
 Veterinarians something or another sets the vaccination protocols but they're 
 all vets so of course they're going to recommend vaccinating as much as 
 possible.
  
 
 “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
 profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
  
 Date: Thu, 17 Nov 2011 11:38:18 -0800
 From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question
 
 I would be very, very cautious about vaccinating a cat agaimst FeLv.  Several 
 people I know had the miserable experience of their cat contracting leukemia 
 after being vaccinated. I wouldn't swear that the vaccine was the source of 
 the infection but these cats were not ever outside the house.  They were not 
 exposed to any other cats.  They may have had the disorder lurking in their 
 bone marrow and the vaccine sensitized them to getting the illness or they 
 may have gotten it from the vaccine.  In addition, there's the danger of 
 vaccine-site sarcoma. I have had cats living with me for most of my life. 
 Most of them survive well into what is considered old age for cats - 16 to 20 
 years.  Simply testing cats before adding them to my community assures that 
 they will not be exposed to FeLv. I don't vaccinate, except when I send cats 
 to adoption. FVRCP is required for that.  Of course, the rabies vaccine is 
 required by law in most States but other than that, I feel that veterinarians 
 push vaccines for cats for all the wrong reasons.
  
 Lee
 
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvt...@felineleukemia.orgi
 Sent: Thursday, November 17, 2011 12:30 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Vaccination question
 
 Why do you feel that your cats need to be vaccinated at all?  Are they at 
 risk of exposure? Vaccinate your cats ONLY according to their lifestyles!  
 Remember, even the protocol

[Felvtalk] Vaccination question

2011-11-16 Thread Maureen Olvey

I've got to have a couple of my cats vaccinated against FeLV.  I've heard you 
guys talk about the different makers of the vaccinations but I can't remember 
what the best ones were.  Seems like I remember hearing about Fort Dodge and 
some others but if anyone has had problems with a certain type of vaccination 
by a certain maker please let me know.

I don't think I'm going to do the Vet Jet so I just wanted to know about the 
regular FeLV vaccinations.

Thanks.

Maureen

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain   
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