[Felvtalk] Weight loss
I've posted a lot about the weight my leuk pos has lost since I took him in. He's about 6 years old and has never shown any real symptoms other than red gums (which we've treated) and now the weight loss. He was 13.6 pounds less than a year ago and is 10.4 lbs today. He's not a petite cat and is looking really thin. I have an appointment next week and my vet is going to make a list of all things that could cause weight loss and all things that could cause anemia so we can make sure that we've done everything we possibly can for him. So far we have checked him for thyroid multiple times, even with a free T4. We have done blood work numerous times and nothing odd there other than what you would expect to see with a leuk pos cat (same bloodwork that I see in all my cats). Last time we did bloodwork, his HCT was 29%, low for him. We checked him for hemobart and he was negative for Mycoplasma haemofilis previously called Hemobartonella felis large form and positive for Mycoplasma haemominutum previously called Haemobartonella felis small form. We have him on pred, Pet-Tinic and doxy but he's still losing weight quickly. He is due to go back Tuesday for a recheck. He was on a high fat, high protein kitten food to try to help him gain weight. That didn't work and he's now on EVO but has continued to lose. We were planning to do a digestive panel but are concerned about taking the 4mls of blood that we need considering his HCT is lower than normal so we are waiting to see how it looks this week. My vet feels confident that we have been very thorough and that this is just a manifestation of the leukemia. She's willling to do any testing and is still researching anything else that could be going on. Anybody have thoughts or suggestions other than what we are doing or do I just spend time with him, enjoy him, and stop putting him through all this testing during what could be my last few weeks with him? Amy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Weight loss
Some cats will get stomatitis and this is painful and they will eat less. Has your vet looked his mouth and throat over very carefully? Some of these pics are extreme and a cat doesn't have to have that bad of a case for them to eat less, Bailey had a mild case, his gums were just slightly red and he was eating a little less, this is when we tested him and found he had Bartonella, not hemo bartonella, Bartoneaal is something different and is treated different. Bailey also had several teeth removed because of this and that helped give him relief. Something else to look for, beware of tooth reobsorbtion, mentioned in a few of these articles. Here are some good links on stomatitis. http://www.mypetsdentist.com/site/view/110772_FelinecatStomaitits.pml http://www.dentalvet.com/vets/cats/feline_stomatitis.htm http://veterinarynews.dvm360.com/dvm/Medicine/Feline-stomatitis-How-to-treat-a-diseae-of-unknown/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/162427 http://www.veterinarydental.com/veterinarians/flps.php -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... http://bemikitties.com http://BelindaSauro.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Weight loss with no other symptoms
Amy, Our cat Gray Kitty is losing ounces just about weekly. He had two bone marrow aspirations, the first one came out negative and the second came out positive. It seems since it has gone to his bone marrow, that he is losing weight slowly. We were told by one set of doctors that he has weeks to live and that is almost 4 weeks ago. We do believe the LTCI injections are helping, so we are continuing those weekly along with his homeopathic meds. We know we do not have too much longer with him, but are still hoping for a miricle. Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 15:40:36 -0800 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Weight loss with no other symptoms I have an approximately 6-year-old cat that has been positive for leukemia since I took him in several years ago. Over the past couple years he has gradually been losing weight. My population (5 leuk pos cats) has remained stable over this time and no new cats have been introduced. I took him to the vet today and he is down 2 pounds from last year (currently weighs 11.8 lbs). The vet said he is not skinny and would now be considered ideal body weight but she was a bit concerned about the weight loss. We did a full blood work-up as we do every year and everything looks fine. She also tested for thyroid problems since his pulse was a bit fast and we wanted to rule it out. She said his tummy feels fine and she sees nothing to be concerned about at this time. This is good news but I'm still worried about the weight loss as none of my cats tend to be on the small size. Has anybody seen this sort of weight loss in cats with leukemia or do people think that this is a sign that he is starting to go downhill? Thoughts? Amy --- On Fri, 11/21/08, Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] High Fever To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 2:04 PM Yes, Isabella had a high fever when we first rescued her. As I recall, we used antibiotics. I couldn't find my notes quicklyI do know her fever finally came down. Eventually she was on maintenance prednisilone and a pain killer. And now she is only on interferon and has gone from 8-12 lbs. She looks and feels great! Good luck and if I find more on Bella's treatment, I will forward it. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christy Buchin Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] High Fever My cat Gray Kitty, was diagnosed with FeLV on his first birthday, 9/6/08. He and his two brothers were born in our home to a stray we took into our home. She had tested negative for the virus. His two brothers have also continue to test negative for the virus. His two brothers are also type A blood and he is the only one that is type B. He has had 1 transfusion, due to his anemic condition. Since then, the virus has gone to his bone marrow. He receives weekly injections of the Imulan LTCI and is on holistic medication as well. Since diagnosed, he continues to run a fever between 103 and 105. Antibiotics do not seem to relieve this either. We know each day is precious that we have with him. Does anyone else battle with the high fevers too? _ Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_ 112008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Get more done, have more fun, and stay more connected with Windows MobileĀ®. http://clk.atdmt.com/MRT/go/119642556/direct/01/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
[Felvtalk] Weight loss with no other symptoms
I have an approximately 6-year-old cat that has been positive for leukemia since I took him in several years ago. Over the past couple years he has gradually been losing weight. My population (5 leuk pos cats) has remained stable over this time and no new cats have been introduced. I took him to the vet today and he is down 2 pounds from last year (currently weighs 11.8 lbs). The vet said he is not skinny and would now be considered ideal body weight but she was a bit concerned about the weight loss. We did a full blood work-up as we do every year and everything looks fine. She also tested for thyroid problems since his pulse was a bit fast and we wanted to rule it out. She said his tummy feels fine and she sees nothing to be concerned about at this time. This is good news but I'm still worried about the weight loss as none of my cats tend to be on the small size. Has anybody seen this sort of weight loss in cats with leukemia or do people think that this is a sign that he is starting to go downhill? Thoughts? Amy --- On Fri, 11/21/08, Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] High Fever To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 2:04 PM Yes, Isabella had a high fever when we first rescued her. As I recall, we used antibiotics. I couldn't find my notes quicklyI do know her fever finally came down. Eventually she was on maintenance prednisilone and a pain killer. And now she is only on interferon and has gone from 8-12 lbs. She looks and feels great! Good luck and if I find more on Bella's treatment, I will forward it. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christy Buchin Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] High Fever My cat Gray Kitty, was diagnosed with FeLV on his first birthday, 9/6/08. He and his two brothers were born in our home to a stray we took into our home. She had tested negative for the virus. His two brothers have also continue to test negative for the virus. His two brothers are also type A blood and he is the only one that is type B. He has had 1 transfusion, due to his anemic condition. Since then, the virus has gone to his bone marrow. He receives weekly injections of the Imulan LTCI and is on holistic medication as well. Since diagnosed, he continues to run a fever between 103 and 105. Antibiotics do not seem to relieve this either. We know each day is precious that we have with him. Does anyone else battle with the high fevers too? _ Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_ 112008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Weight loss with no other symptoms
Amy have their been any changes in his mouth? Leukemia kitties often have inflamed gums which can affect the amount of food they eat. Have his eating patterns changed? I have not heard of weight loss, without any other symptoms being a warning sign. Jane On Nov 21, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Amy wrote: I have an approximately 6-year-old cat that has been positive for leukemia since I took him in several years ago. Over the past couple years he has gradually been losing weight. My population (5 leuk pos cats) has remained stable over this time and no new cats have been introduced. I took him to the vet today and he is down 2 pounds from last year (currently weighs 11.8 lbs). The vet said he is not skinny and would now be considered ideal body weight but she was a bit concerned about the weight loss. We did a full blood work-up as we do every year and everything looks fine. She also tested for thyroid problems since his pulse was a bit fast and we wanted to rule it out. She said his tummy feels fine and she sees nothing to be concerned about at this time. This is good news but I'm still worried about the weight loss as none of my cats tend to be on the small size. Has anybody seen this sort of weight loss in cats with leukemia or do people think that this is a sign that he is starting to go downhill? Thoughts? Amy --- On Fri, 11/21/08, Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] High Fever To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 2:04 PM Yes, Isabella had a high fever when we first rescued her. As I recall, we used antibiotics. I couldn't find my notes quicklyI do know her fever finally came down. Eventually she was on maintenance prednisilone and a pain killer. And now she is only on interferon and has gone from 8-12 lbs. She looks and feels great! Good luck and if I find more on Bella's treatment, I will forward it. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christy Buchin Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] High Fever My cat Gray Kitty, was diagnosed with FeLV on his first birthday, 9/6/08. He and his two brothers were born in our home to a stray we took into our home. She had tested negative for the virus. His two brothers have also continue to test negative for the virus. His two brothers are also type A blood and he is the only one that is type B. He has had 1 transfusion, due to his anemic condition. Since then, the virus has gone to his bone marrow. He receives weekly injections of the Imulan LTCI and is on holistic medication as well. Since diagnosed, he continues to run a fever between 103 and 105. Antibiotics do not seem to relieve this either. We know each day is precious that we have with him. Does anyone else battle with the high fevers too? _ Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail? ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_ 112008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Weight loss with no other symptoms
Amy have their been any changes in his mouth? Leukemia kitties often have inflamed gums which can affect the amount of food they eat. Have his eating patterns changed? I don't see any noticeable changes in his eating patterns. The vet said his gums looked fine. All my cats have been on Clindamycin (every four weeks) for their gums but recently my vet started testing for Bartonella and 4 out of the 5 tested positive for it. After treating them for Bartonella, all the gum issues seemed to have resolved. This cat that has lost weight is the only one that tested negative for Bartonella. He has a little bit of redness along the gum/tooth line but nothing significant. She gave him treats at the office and he ate them right up so we don't think he is painful in the mouth or not wanting to eat because of pain. I have not heard of weight loss, without any other symptoms being a warning sign. Jane On Nov 21, 2008, at 6:40 PM, Amy wrote: I have an approximately 6-year-old cat that has been positive for leukemia since I took him in several years ago. Over the past couple years he has gradually been losing weight. My population (5 leuk pos cats) has remained stable over this time and no new cats have been introduced. I took him to the vet today and he is down 2 pounds from last year (currently weighs 11.8 lbs). The vet said he is not skinny and would now be considered ideal body weight but she was a bit concerned about the weight loss. We did a full blood work-up as we do every year and everything looks fine. She also tested for thyroid problems since his pulse was a bit fast and we wanted to rule it out. She said his tummy feels fine and she sees nothing to be concerned about at this time. This is good news but I'm still worried about the weight loss as none of my cats tend to be on the small size. Has anybody seen this sort of weight loss in cats with leukemia or do people think that this is a sign that he is starting to go downhill? Thoughts? Amy --- On Fri, 11/21/08, Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] High Fever To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, November 21, 2008, 2:04 PM Yes, Isabella had a high fever when we first rescued her. As I recall, we used antibiotics. I couldn't find my notes quicklyI do know her fever finally came down. Eventually she was on maintenance prednisilone and a pain killer. And now she is only on interferon and has gone from 8-12 lbs. She looks and feels great! Good luck and if I find more on Bella's treatment, I will forward it. Laurie -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christy Buchin Sent: Friday, November 21, 2008 12:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] High Fever My cat Gray Kitty, was diagnosed with FeLV on his first birthday, 9/6/08. He and his two brothers were born in our home to a stray we took into our home. She had tested negative for the virus. His two brothers have also continue to test negative for the virus. His two brothers are also type A blood and he is the only one that is type B. He has had 1 transfusion, due to his anemic condition. Since then, the virus has gone to his bone marrow. He receives weekly injections of the Imulan LTCI and is on holistic medication as well. Since diagnosed, he continues to run a fever between 103 and 105. Antibiotics do not seem to relieve this either. We know each day is precious that we have with him. Does anyone else battle with the high fevers too? _ Color coding for safety: Windows Live Hotmail alerts you to suspicious email. http://windowslive.com/Explore/Hotmail? ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_hotmail_acq_safety_ 112008 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/ felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org