Re: [Felvtalk] advice on kitty's loose tooth

2009-11-20 Thread Caroline Kaufmann

I have a non-positive (just a regular old cat- except that he was my first 
foster and has literally helped foster every cat I have taken in!) that is 
missing a little tooth on his bottom jaw and another is barely hanging on.  
It's always been like that- he's only 2.  Don't know when he lost it.  But he 
was 2 months when I acquired him as a very sickly, kill animal shelter rescue 
brought into a no kill rescue, with exposure to everything probably.  Started 
his life on antibiotics and fighting a recurring upper respiratory infection.  
I eventually fostered and lost 3 other kittens rescued along with him that 
separately all succumbed to FIP (1 to wet, 2 to dry).  Anyway, my boy has no 
gum disease whatsoever but his vet said it's highly likely he could lose all 
teeth before middle age.  Just due to a rough start in life.  It seems to make 
sense that- altho he's a healthy horse now- when his milk teeth were falling 
out and being replaced with his adult teeth- he was at his sickest, not getting 
nutrition, etc., so those adult teeth were not being formed in the best 
possible circumstances.  My vet said this is actually more common than you 
would think in cats who didn't get adequate COLOSTRUM from their mother through 
nursing, if any at all :(  (this would also be why I love my vet so much-- b/c 
he talks about colostrum and how important it is!).  And remember that all cats 
have milk teeth they lose naturally and most actually swallow them-- which is 
totally fine and natural.  Altho I did find one of my newest kitten's milk 
canine on the bed and I felt like I had found a buried treasure!  After having 
so many cats in my life-- kittens, fosters, geriatrics!, this was the first 
tooth I ever actually found  Anyway, I guess my point is that the process 
of cats losing their teeth for whatever reason, whether it's milk teeth, or due 
to gingivitis, if it's not actually affecting the cat as far as eating and what 
not, it's a much more natural process that occurs more than we know (geriatrics 
regularly lose teeth even if you've kept up with their regular teeth cleaning). 
 It's a much more natural process than us losing our teeth!  And with a 
positive cat, truly the main thing is to minimize their stress-- it's the 
golden rule of having a positive.  So assuming no detrimental effects of 
letting nature take it's course, I would advocate leaving the teeth alone (of 
course, following vet's advice for cleaning and treating an active infection).  
I personally would avoid having a positive's teeth pulled as much as possible.  
As even avoiding anesthetic if you can in a positive is important.  The process 
of losing teeth for cats is not a big event like for us so I don't think we 
should do anything to turn it into a stressful event for them! 

 

That's my two cents.  

 

Caroline Kaufmann 
 
 Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:12:48 -0500
 From: dtshr...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] advice on kitty's loose tooth
 
 I should have said before that I had called the vet when I first noticed it,
 and they said as long as she was eating that she was probably ok. I hate
 the thought of stressing her out to take her to the vet if it might just
 fall out and be ok. When I first got her (a year ago), all of her upper and
 lower tiny teeth were missing. She had very bad breath and gingivitis.
 After giving her Petzlife oral gel over a period of many months, the vet
 said her mouth looked very good, and her breath got much better So
 she's had a history of bad teeth. Thank you for the advice!
 
 On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:51 PM, patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote:
 
  One of my positives started smelling bad and I realized that he had a
  serious red line on his gums
  near the teeth. The vet said that the gum infection was so bad, his
  little front teeth would probably
  fall out. Gum infection is quite often seen in positives. Alot of the
  infection cleared up with
  antibiotic but not all. We'll need to try something more.
 
  I would suspect something like this with your kitty to let that tooth get
  so loose.
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Re: [Felvtalk] advice on kitty's loose tooth

2009-11-20 Thread Cougar Clan
Consider using PetzLife Brush Away or an additive to the cat's water  
that helps with teeth too since the cat has a history of dental  
problems.


Hi Caroline.  Good to know you are still around.
On Nov 20, 2009, at 12:15 PM, Caroline Kaufmann wrote:



I have a non-positive (just a regular old cat- except that he was my  
first foster and has literally helped foster every cat I have taken  
in!) that is missing a little tooth on his bottom jaw and another is  
barely hanging on.  It's always been like that- he's only 2.  Don't  
know when he lost it.  But he was 2 months when I acquired him as a  
very sickly, kill animal shelter rescue brought into a no kill  
rescue, with exposure to everything probably.  Started his life on  
antibiotics and fighting a recurring upper respiratory infection.  I  
eventually fostered and lost 3 other kittens rescued along with him  
that separately all succumbed to FIP (1 to wet, 2 to dry).  Anyway,  
my boy has no gum disease whatsoever but his vet said it's highly  
likely he could lose all teeth before middle age.  Just due to a  
rough start in life.  It seems to make sense that- altho he's a  
healthy horse now- when his milk teeth were falling out and being  
replaced with his adult teeth- he was at his sickest, not getting  
nutrition, etc., so those adult teeth were not being formed in the  
best possible circumstances.  My vet said this is actually more  
common than you would think in cats who didn't get adequate  
COLOSTRUM from their mother through nursing, if any at all :(  (this  
would also be why I love my vet so much-- b/c he talks about  
colostrum and how important it is!).  And remember that all cats  
have milk teeth they lose naturally and most actually swallow them--  
which is totally fine and natural.  Altho I did find one of my  
newest kitten's milk canine on the bed and I felt like I had found a  
buried treasure!  After having so many cats in my life-- kittens,  
fosters, geriatrics!, this was the first tooth I ever actually  
found  Anyway, I guess my point is that the process of cats  
losing their teeth for whatever reason, whether it's milk teeth, or  
due to gingivitis, if it's not actually affecting the cat as far as  
eating and what not, it's a much more natural process that occurs  
more than we know (geriatrics regularly lose teeth even if
you've kept up with their regular teeth cleaning).  It's a much more  
natural process than us losing our teeth!  And with a positive cat,  
truly the main thing is to minimize their stress-- it's the golden  
rule of having a positive.  So assuming no detrimental effects of  
letting nature take it's course, I would advocate leaving the teeth  
alone (of course, following vet's advice for cleaning and treating  
an active infection).  I personally would avoid having a positive's  
teeth pulled as much as possible.  As even avoiding anesthetic if  
you can in a positive is important.  The process of losing teeth for  
cats is not a big event like for us so I don't think we should do  
anything to turn it into a stressful event for them!




That's my two cents.



Caroline Kaufmann


Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 18:12:48 -0500
From: dtshr...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] advice on kitty's loose tooth

I should have said before that I had called the vet when I first  
noticed it,
and they said as long as she was eating that she was probably ok. I  
hate
the thought of stressing her out to take her to the vet if it might  
just
fall out and be ok. When I first got her (a year ago), all of her  
upper and
lower tiny teeth were missing. She had very bad breath and  
gingivitis.
After giving her Petzlife oral gel over a period of many months,  
the vet
said her mouth looked very good, and her breath got much better  
So

she's had a history of bad teeth. Thank you for the advice!

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:51 PM, patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote:

One of my positives started smelling bad and I realized that he  
had a

serious red line on his gums
near the teeth. The vet said that the gum infection was so bad, his
little front teeth would probably
fall out. Gum infection is quite often seen in positives. Alot of  
the

infection cleared up with
antibiotic but not all. We'll need to try something more.

I would suspect something like this with your kitty to let that  
tooth get

so loose.
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[Felvtalk] advice on kitty's loose tooth

2009-11-19 Thread Tracey Shrout
Hi all,
I have a positive who has a loose lower canine tooth.  I have never had this
problem in a cat.  She is very clumsy (one bad eye) and I think she has
possibly just ran into something.  Anyway, her tooth is now sticking
straight out.  I worry that it may be getting infected, or that it may
become infected when it falls out.  This is the fifth day, and it still
hasn't fallen out.  She's acting normal and eats fine as well.  Is this
something I should be terribly concerned about or has anyone had this happen
to your kitty???  Thanks for any advice,
Tracey
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Re: [Felvtalk] advice on kitty's loose tooth

2009-11-19 Thread Laurieskatz
I would get her to a vet as soon as possible to make sure there isn't an
infection
Abscessed teeth can be a serious issue.
L

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] advice on kitty's loose tooth

Hi all,
I have a positive who has a loose lower canine tooth.  I have never had this
problem in a cat.  She is very clumsy (one bad eye) and I think she has
possibly just ran into something.  Anyway, her tooth is now sticking
straight out.  I worry that it may be getting infected, or that it may
become infected when it falls out.  This is the fifth day, and it still
hasn't fallen out.  She's acting normal and eats fine as well.  Is this
something I should be terribly concerned about or has anyone had this happen
to your kitty???  Thanks for any advice,
Tracey
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Re: [Felvtalk] advice on kitty's loose tooth

2009-11-19 Thread Patricia . A . Elkins
One of my positives started smelling bad and I realized that he had a 
serious red line on his gums
near the teeth.  The vet said that the gum infection was so bad, his 
little front teeth would probably
fall out.  Gum infection is quite often seen in positives.  Alot of the 
infection cleared up with
antibiotic but not all.  We'll need to try something more.

I would suspect something like this with your kitty to let that tooth get 
so loose.
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Re: [Felvtalk] advice on kitty's loose tooth

2009-11-19 Thread Tracey Shrout
I should have said before that I had called the vet when I first noticed it,
and they said as long as she was eating that she was probably ok.  I hate
the thought of stressing her out to take her to the vet if it might just
fall out and be ok. When I first got her (a year ago), all of her upper and
lower tiny teeth were missing.  She had very bad breath and gingivitis.
After giving her Petzlife oral gel over a period of many months, the vet
said her mouth looked very good, and her breath got much better  So
she's had a history of bad teeth.  Thank you for the advice!

On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:51 PM, patricia.a.elk...@gsk.com wrote:

 One of my positives started smelling bad and I realized that he had a
 serious red line on his gums
 near the teeth.  The vet said that the gum infection was so bad, his
 little front teeth would probably
 fall out.  Gum infection is quite often seen in positives.  Alot of the
 infection cleared up with
 antibiotic but not all.  We'll need to try something more.

 I would suspect something like this with your kitty to let that tooth get
 so loose.
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Re: [Felvtalk] advice on kitty's loose tooth

2009-11-19 Thread janine paton
Had this recently with one of mine.  Her canine tooth was sticking straight out 
also, it looked horrible, but took her to vet, person who does dentals there 
easily removed the tooth.  Came right out in one second, by had, no big deal! 





From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, November 19, 2009 5:47:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] advice on kitty's loose tooth

I would get her to a vet as soon as possible to make sure there isn't an
infection
Abscessed teeth can be a serious issue.
L

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Tracey Shrout
Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2009 4:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] advice on kitty's loose tooth

Hi all,
I have a positive who has a loose lower canine tooth.  I have never had this
problem in a cat.  She is very clumsy (one bad eye) and I think she has
possibly just ran into something.  Anyway, her tooth is now sticking
straight out.  I worry that it may be getting infected, or that it may
become infected when it falls out.  This is the fifth day, and it still
hasn't fallen out.  She's acting normal and eats fine as well.  Is this
something I should be terribly concerned about or has anyone had this happen
to your kitty???  Thanks for any advice,
Tracey
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