Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-10 Thread Natalie
I don't know about the holistic remedies, but I always give all FeLV and FIV
positive cats, or older cat, CoQ10 - I get the GNC vegetarian brand because
it's in powder form in capsules - easy to mix into the food. I get the 50 mg
or 100 mg and use about 50 mg for each cat daily.  Great for gums, heart,
and so much more.
BTW - since this group accepts nothing large, it's a good idea to split up
the longer messages and make sure to erase all the old back and forth
messages because they all add to the size.

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What are some of these holistic remedies for gum issues? Tweetys gums as
pretty bad and they want to pull out 3 of his teeth. :( I'm terribly nervous
about that surgery. He is 9. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me/ flow charts for testing

2011-11-09 Thread Beth
An IFA will tell you if the virus is replicating in the bone marrow. Once that 
happens the virus will not go away, so If you want to be sure he is positive  
will not throw off the virus you could do that. It does cost close to $100 if I 
remember correctly.
Even FeLV kitties who are initially sick can get better  stay healthy for 
awhile. Most of mine were strays  not in good health to begin with. You just 
never know. Some I've had for a week, some for years.

Beth

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From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Tuesday, November 8, 2011 6:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me/ flow charts 
for testing


I'm sorry I haven't figured out how to reply to specific threads, maybe because 
I receive a digest instead of each post.  I'm using this site 
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org to 
access the threads.  If someone can point me in the right direction about how 
to properly use this site I would appreciate it. I'm sure it is somewhere in 
the intro msg but I'm not thinking too clearly.  When I have a sick animal, I 
get very upset.  Anyway, I wanted to throw out what the vet who diagnosed this 
stray kitten using a elise test that was sent to a lab (not done at her office) 
 told me today..  She said she called to find the latest protocols about 
retesting and said that one way is to wait 30 days and repeat the test but the 
other way is to do an IFA now and I would know once and for all if the kitten 
is truely positive. I questioned her about what I was reading on the internet 
about waiting a longer period to see if the
 cat reverts or sheds, but she said this is what she was told is the latest 
protocol.   I did read some of you about your cats coming back negative after 
retesting and this gave me hope.
 
  Mitt (for Mittens) b/c he has them is eating well and his bad breath went 
away I guess from the antibiotics he is on. but tonight I saw he has 
dandruff/scaling in his fur on the outer ear.  Now I fear he does have a 
compromised immune system and a skin disease.  So I am bringing him back to the 
vet on thurs to get this IFA test and for her to look at the skin and tell me 
what it is.   I'm not sure I can handle a chronically ill cat again.  I took 
care of one of my older cats in the final stages of  kidney failure for a year, 
including giving fluids but there was no issue of keeping separate and fear of 
spreading illnesses to my other cats.  My remaining  4 cats were former 
strays/ferals that were over a year old when i took them in. I got them 
sterilized but never kept up on shots and testing  b/c I kept them inside and 
figured since they all lived outside more or less together if they had 
something they all probably had it by then.  I've
 had them all over 11 years.  I have yet to find a really good vet where I 
live. Most just push vaccinations and flea treatments. Most don't deal with 
stray cats. I've been calling around cat rescues and those that take positive 
cats are full and apparently the protocol here is that when they bring in 
strays/ferals to be sterilzied, they give them a SNAP test (is that an elise 
test) and if they test positive, they euthanize them apparently b/c they will 
not return them to the colonies to spread the disease. So most don't have 
experience treating cats with this illness. 
 
Anyway, thanks to anyone who made it thru this msg and has any further comment.

From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: stray kitten positive any advice for me


 
thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will review 
all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails.  I see my 
post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for your advice.  I 
guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  advice to get the 
other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out negative. I am worried 
about the redness of his gums which he is on an antibiotic for. Vet attributed 
it to gingivitis and teething but this was pre finding out the positive test 
results.

From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me


I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized

Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-08 Thread Terri Brown
I always mixed mine.  As long as my negative was vaccinated, I didn't worry.  
All my FeLV+ babies are gone now, but the negatives are still negative.  It's 
been over 5 years since we lost our last FeLV+ cat.  Salome' was 9-1/2 when she 
died in 2005.

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furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=
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  From: Katie Marie Armijomailto:katie.arm...@colorado.edu 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:28 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me


  My Husband I are in a similar position. We just adopted a kitten from the 
pound who had been feral before that and she ended up being FeLV+. We have two 
other cats and they hadn't had any other contact before the positive test and 
since the test we have continued to keep them separated. Euthanizing was never 
even an option in our minds. She is such a healthy happy kitten it just didn't 
make sense. We are currently in the process of vaccinating our other two cats. 
But despite the vaccination out vet advised not letting them have any contact 
with the kitten ever. We planned on keeping them in separate rooms forever. Now 
seeing what John just wrote we wondering how often it is that people interact 
their FeLV+ cats with non infected cats and never see their other cats get 
infected.  


  Good luck with your kitten. She will be a wonderful addition to your family. 
:) 




  On Nov 7, 2011, at 4:02 PM, john pollack wrote:


If the kitten is healthy, do not put it down. FeLV cats can live good 
lives. My Tigger is almost 5 now. Had been healthy for the whole time, until 
last month when he developed stomach cancer. He is still here, doing fine now. 
Also, have 5 other cats. had them vaccinated, and to this day, none are FeLV+




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Subject: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me


I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether 
retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms.  When I took the cat 
in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting for test 
results.  I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't this harm its 
immune system.  she said no.  Now when she called she said she was surprised 
that the cat tested positive since, other than the sore gums, which she 
attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said it seemed healthy.  It does 
seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the sweetest cat, loving and 
intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I haven't had time to read 
all archives but I work from home and also take care of my bedridden elderly 
mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind enough to give me some advice? 
Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it just says positive the vet 
estimates the cat is from 5-6 months old.

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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-08 Thread Marcia
My cat Fletch was with 3 other adult cats for a year. They had never been 
vaccinated for felv and the bet said that Fletch was born with it. So they were 
exposed unknowingly for a full year, and they all tested negative.   So I 
believe like everyone else here, it's not spread as easily as everyone thinks,  
bless you for taking care of this little life(-:

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On Nov 7, 2011, at 5:52 PM, dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
 abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
 have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
 healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. 
 Other than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this 
 kitten.  In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would 
 understand if I euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false 
 positive and whether retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has 
 hookworms.  When I took the cat in, she suggested that I give it its 
 vaccinations before waiting for test results.  I asked if the cat turned out 
 postitive, wouldn't this harm its immune system.  she said no.  Now when she 
 called she said she was surprised that the cat tested positive since, other 
 than the sore gums, which she attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said 
 it seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the 
 sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry 
 I haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and also take 
 care of my bedridden elderly mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind 
 enough to give me some advice? Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it 
 just says positive the vet estimates the cat is from 5-6 months old.
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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-08 Thread Jannes Taylor
Please do not give up hope. Wait the three months and have her tested again. I 
rescued a cat who was approx 3 years old who also tested positive. Three months 
later she tested negative. I also had an IFA test done on her which also came 
out negative. The vet eluded to me having her put to sleep after she tested 
positive but my intuition say no! This was back in March. Today she is a 
healthy, happy, 8 lb cat who bullies the other cats who are twice her 
size.LOL... She is also very loving and such a joy in our lives. They can clear 
this disease from their system or the test could be wrong. Please wait and have 
her tested again.


Jannes 



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Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 7:45 PM
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There are holistic remedies for the gum issues.  That was the only sign Dixie 
showedask questions and seek information.  A lot of emails get chopped 
because they are too long to post---someone else can explain this.    

On Nov 7, 2011, at 7:33 PM, dppl dppl wrote:

 
thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will review 
all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails.  I see my 
post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for your advice.  I 
guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  advice to get the 
other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out negative. I am worried 
about the redness of his gums which he is on an antibiotic for. Vet attributed 
it to gingivitis and teething but this was pre finding out the positive test 
results.




From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me


I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether 
retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms.  When I took the 
cat in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting for test 
results.  I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't this harm its 
immune system.  she said no.  Now when she called she said she was surprised 
that the cat tested positive since, other than the sore gums, which she 
attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said
 it seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the 
sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I 
haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and also take care 
of my bedridden elderly mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind enough 
to give me some advice? Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it just says 
positive the vet estimates the cat is from 5-6 months old.

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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me/ flow charts for testing

2011-11-08 Thread dppl dppl
I'm sorry I haven't figured out how to reply to specific threads, maybe because 
I receive a digest instead of each post.  I'm using this site 
http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org to 
access the threads.  If someone can point me in the right direction about how 
to properly use this site I would appreciate it. I'm sure it is somewhere in 
the intro msg but I'm not thinking too clearly.  When I have a sick animal, I 
get very upset.  Anyway, I wanted to throw out what the vet who diagnosed this 
stray kitten using a elise test that was sent to a lab (not done at her office) 
 told me today..  She said she called to find the latest protocols about 
retesting and said that one way is to wait 30 days and repeat the test but the 
other way is to do an IFA now and I would know once and for all if the kitten 
is truely positive. I questioned her about what I was reading on the internet 
about waiting a longer period to see if the
 cat reverts or sheds, but she said this is what she was told is the latest 
protocol.   I did read some of you about your cats coming back negative after 
retesting and this gave me hope.
 
  Mitt (for Mittens) b/c he has them is eating well and his bad breath went 
away I guess from the antibiotics he is on. but tonight I saw he has 
dandruff/scaling in his fur on the outer ear.  Now I fear he does have a 
compromised immune system and a skin disease.  So I am bringing him back to the 
vet on thurs to get this IFA test and for her to look at the skin and tell me 
what it is.   I'm not sure I can handle a chronically ill cat again.  I took 
care of one of my older cats in the final stages of  kidney failure for a year, 
including giving fluids but there was no issue of keeping separate and fear of 
spreading illnesses to my other cats.  My remaining  4 cats were former 
strays/ferals that were over a year old when i took them in. I got them 
sterilized but never kept up on shots and testing  b/c I kept them inside and 
figured since they all lived outside more or less together if they had 
something they all probably had it by then.  I've
 had them all over 11 years.  I have yet to find a really good vet where I 
live. Most just push vaccinations and flea treatments. Most don't deal with 
stray cats. I've been calling around cat rescues and those that take positive 
cats are full and apparently the protocol here is that when they bring in 
strays/ferals to be sterilzied, they give them a SNAP test (is that an elise 
test) and if they test positive, they euthanize them apparently b/c they will 
not return them to the colonies to spread the disease. So most don't have 
experience treating cats with this illness. 
 
Anyway, thanks to anyone who made it thru this msg and has any further comment.



From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:33 PM
Subject: Re: stray kitten positive any advice for me


 
thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will review 
all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails.  I see my 
post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for your advice.  I 
guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  advice to get the 
other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out negative. I am worried 
about the redness of his gums which he is on an antibiotic for. Vet attributed 
it to gingivitis and teething but this was pre finding out the positive test 
results.



From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me


I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether 
retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms.  When I took the cat 
in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting for test 
results.  I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't this harm its 
immune system.  she said no.  Now when she called she said she was surprised 
that the cat tested positive since, other than the sore gums, which she 
attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said it
 seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the 
sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I 
haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and 

Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me/ flow charts for testing

2011-11-08 Thread Marcia
I guess the fact of the matter is, is that your kitten can live a very healthy 
life. If she tests positive, it doesn't necessarily  mean that she will be 
chronically ill. I really think that good nutrition also plays an enormous role 
in keeping them healthy. It's a very tough decision.  I feel for you. Best of 
luck to you and your little one.
Marcia

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On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:07 PM, dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 I'm sorry I haven't figured out how to reply to specific threads, maybe 
 because I receive a digest instead of each post.  I'm using this site 
 http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org to 
 access the threads.  If someone can point me in the right direction about how 
 to properly use this site I would appreciate it. I'm sure it is somewhere in 
 the intro msg but I'm not thinking too clearly.  When I have a sick animal, I 
 get very upset.  Anyway, I wanted to throw out what the vet who diagnosed 
 this stray kitten using a elise test that was sent to a lab (not done at her 
 office)  told me today..  She said she called to find the latest protocols 
 about retesting and said that one way is to wait 30 days and repeat the test 
 but the other way is to do an IFA now and I would know once and for all if 
 the kitten is truely positive. I questioned her about what I was reading on 
 the internet about waiting a longer period to see if the cat reverts or 
 sheds, but she said this is what she was told is the latest protocol.   I did 
 read some of you about your cats coming back negative after retesting and 
 this gave me hope.
  
   Mitt (for Mittens) b/c he has them is eating well and his bad breath went 
 away I guess from the antibiotics he is on. but tonight I saw he has 
 dandruff/scaling in his fur on the outer ear.  Now I fear he does have a 
 compromised immune system and a skin disease.  So I am bringing him back to 
 the vet on thurs to get this IFA test and for her to look at the skin and 
 tell me what it is.   I'm not sure I can handle a chronically ill cat again.  
 I took care of one of my older cats in the final stages of  kidney failure 
 for a year, including giving fluids but there was no issue of keeping 
 separate and fear of spreading illnesses to my other cats.  My remaining  4 
 cats were former strays/ferals that were over a year old when i took them in. 
 I got them sterilized but never kept up on shots and testing  b/c I kept them 
 inside and figured since they all lived outside more or less together if they 
 had something they all probably had it by then.  I've had them all over 11 
 years.  I have yet to find a really good vet where I live. Most just push 
 vaccinations and flea treatments. Most don't deal with stray cats. I've been 
 calling around cat rescues and those that take positive cats are full and 
 apparently the protocol here is that when they bring in strays/ferals to be 
 sterilzied, they give them a SNAP test (is that an elise test) and if they 
 test positive, they euthanize them apparently b/c they will not return them 
 to the colonies to spread the disease. So most don't have experience treating 
 cats with this illness.
  
 Anyway, thanks to anyone who made it thru this msg and has any further 
 comment.
 
 From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:33 PM
 Subject: Re: stray kitten positive any advice for me
 
  
 thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will review 
 all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails.  I see 
 my post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for your advice. 
  I guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  advice to get 
 the other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out negative. I am 
 worried about the redness of his gums which he is on an antibiotic for. Vet 
 attributed it to gingivitis and teething but this was pre finding out the 
 positive test results.
 
 From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
 Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me
 
 I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
 abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
 have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
 healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. 
 Other than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this 
 kitten.  In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would 
 understand if I euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false 
 positive and whether retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has 
 hookworms.  When I took the cat in, she suggested that I give it its 
 vaccinations before waiting for test results.  I asked if the cat turned out 
 postitive, 

Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-08 Thread dlgegg
My positives were at least 1 year old when they came to me.  My vet said you 
have a choice, keep them or put them to sleep.  He said he has seen many live 
long and healthy lives and so far mine have.  They share my house with 5 
negatives ranging in age from 1 and 1/2years to 13.  The negatives get their 
vaccinations very year and so far everyone is healthy, happy and sassy.

 Terri Brown siggies...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 I always mixed mine.  As long as my negative was vaccinated, I didn't worry.  
 All my FeLV+ babies are gone now, but the negatives are still negative.  It's 
 been over 5 years since we lost our last FeLV+ cat.  Salome' was 9-1/2 when 
 she died in 2005.
 
 =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Travis, Dori and 6 
 furangels: Ruthie, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec, Salome and Sammi =^..^=
   - Original Message - 
   From: Katie Marie Armijomailto:katie.arm...@colorado.edu 
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
   Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 7:28 PM
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me
 
 
   My Husband I are in a similar position. We just adopted a kitten from the 
 pound who had been feral before that and she ended up being FeLV+. We have 
 two other cats and they hadn't had any other contact before the positive test 
 and since the test we have continued to keep them separated. Euthanizing was 
 never even an option in our minds. She is such a healthy happy kitten it just 
 didn't make sense. We are currently in the process of vaccinating our other 
 two cats. But despite the vaccination out vet advised not letting them have 
 any contact with the kitten ever. We planned on keeping them in separate 
 rooms forever. Now seeing what John just wrote we wondering how often it is 
 that people interact their FeLV+ cats with non infected cats and never see 
 their other cats get infected.  
 
 
   Good luck with your kitten. She will be a wonderful addition to your 
 family. :) 
 
 
 
 
   On Nov 7, 2011, at 4:02 PM, john pollack wrote:
 
 
 If the kitten is healthy, do not put it down. FeLV cats can live good 
 lives. My Tigger is almost 5 now. Had been healthy for the whole time, until 
 last month when he developed stomach cancer. He is still here, doing fine 
 now. Also, have 5 other cats. had them vaccinated, and to this day, none are 
 FeLV+
 
 
 
 
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 Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me
 
 
 I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
 abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
 have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
 healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. 
 Other than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this 
 kitten.  In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would 
 understand if I euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false 
 positive and whether retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has 
 hookworms.  When I took the cat in, she suggested that I give it its 
 vaccinations before waiting for test results.  I asked if the cat turned out 
 postitive, wouldn't this harm its immune system.  she said no.  Now when she 
 called she said she was surprised that the cat tested positive since, other 
 than the sore gums, which she attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said 
 it seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the 
 sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry 
 I haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and also take 
 care of my bedridden elderly mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind 
 enough to give me some advice? Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it 
 just says positive the vet estimates the cat is from 5-6 months old.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me/ flow charts for testing

2011-11-08 Thread dlgegg
Good nutrition, paying attention to sniffles, etc and most of all, lotsf love


 Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I guess the fact of the matter is, is that your kitten can live a very 
 healthy life. If she tests positive, it doesn't necessarily  mean that she 
 will be chronically ill. I really think that good nutrition also plays an 
 enormous role in keeping them healthy. It's a very tough decision.  I feel 
 for you. Best of luck to you and your little one.
 Marcia
 
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 On Nov 8, 2011, at 5:07 PM, dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  I'm sorry I haven't figured out how to reply to specific threads, maybe 
  because I receive a digest instead of each post.  I'm using this site 
  http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org to 
  access the threads.  If someone can point me in the right direction about 
  how to properly use this site I would appreciate it. I'm sure it is 
  somewhere in the intro msg but I'm not thinking too clearly.  When I have a 
  sick animal, I get very upset.  Anyway, I wanted to throw out what the vet 
  who diagnosed this stray kitten using a elise test that was sent to a lab 
  (not done at her office)  told me today..  She said she called to find the 
  latest protocols about retesting and said that one way is to wait 30 days 
  and repeat the test but the other way is to do an IFA now and I would know 
  once and for all if the kitten is truely positive. I questioned her about 
  what I was reading on the internet about waiting a longer period to see if 
  the cat reverts or sheds, but she said this is what she was told is the 
  latest protocol.   I did read some of you about your cats coming back 
  negative after retesting and this gave me hope.
   
Mitt (for Mittens) b/c he has them is eating well and his bad breath went 
  away I guess from the antibiotics he is on. but tonight I saw he has 
  dandruff/scaling in his fur on the outer ear.  Now I fear he does have a 
  compromised immune system and a skin disease.  So I am bringing him back to 
  the vet on thurs to get this IFA test and for her to look at the skin and 
  tell me what it is.   I'm not sure I can handle a chronically ill cat 
  again.  I took care of one of my older cats in the final stages of  kidney 
  failure for a year, including giving fluids but there was no issue of 
  keeping separate and fear of spreading illnesses to my other cats.  My 
  remaining  4 cats were former strays/ferals that were over a year old when 
  i took them in. I got them sterilized but never kept up on shots and 
  testing  b/c I kept them inside and figured since they all lived outside 
  more or less together if they had something they all probably had it by 
  then.  I've had them all over 11 years.  I have yet to find a really good 
  vet where I live. Most just push vaccinations and flea treatments. Most 
  don't deal with stray cats. I've been calling around cat rescues and those 
  that take positive cats are full and apparently the protocol here is that 
  when they bring in strays/ferals to be sterilzied, they give them a SNAP 
  test (is that an elise test) and if they test positive, they euthanize them 
  apparently b/c they will not return them to the colonies to spread the 
  disease. So most don't have experience treating cats with this illness.
   
  Anyway, thanks to anyone who made it thru this msg and has any further 
  comment.
  
  From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 8:33 PM
  Subject: Re: stray kitten positive any advice for me
  
   
  thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will 
  review all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails. 
   I see my post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for 
  your advice.  I guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  
  advice to get the other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out 
  negative. I am worried about the redness of his gums which he is on an 
  antibiotic for. Vet attributed it to gingivitis and teething but this was 
  pre finding out the positive test results.
  
  From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
  Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me
  
  I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
  abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
  have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
  healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. 
  Other than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this 
  kitten.  In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would 
  understand if I euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false 
  positive and whether 

[Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-07 Thread dppl dppl
I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether 
retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms.  When I took the cat 
in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting for test 
results.  I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't this harm its 
immune system.  she said no.  Now when she called she said she was surprised 
that the cat tested positive since, other than the sore gums, which she 
attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said it
 seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the 
sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I 
haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and also take care 
of my bedridden elderly mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind enough 
to give me some advice? Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it just says 
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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-07 Thread john pollack
If the kitten is healthy, do not put it down. FeLV cats can live good lives. My 
Tigger is almost 5 now. Had been healthy for the whole time, until last month 
when he developed stomach cancer. He is still here, doing fine now. Also, have 
5 other cats. had them vaccinated, and to this day, none are FeLV+



From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me


I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether 
retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms.  When I took the cat 
in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting for test 
results.  I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't this harm its 
immune system.  she said no.  Now when she called she said she was surprised 
that the cat tested positive since, other than the sore gums, which she 
attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said it
 seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the 
sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I 
haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and also take care 
of my bedridden elderly mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind enough 
to give me some advice? Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it just says 
positive the vet estimates the cat is from 5-6 months old.
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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-07 Thread Katie Marie Armijo
My Husband I are in a similar position. We just adopted a kitten from the pound 
who had been feral before that and she ended up being FeLV+. We have two other 
cats and they hadn't had any other contact before the positive test and since 
the test we have continued to keep them separated. Euthanizing was never even 
an option in our minds. She is such a healthy happy kitten it just didn't make 
sense. We are currently in the process of vaccinating our other two cats. But 
despite the vaccination out vet advised not letting them have any contact with 
the kitten ever. We planned on keeping them in separate rooms forever. Now 
seeing what John just wrote we wondering how often it is that people interact 
their FeLV+ cats with non infected cats and never see their other cats get 
infected. 

Good luck with your kitten. She will be a wonderful addition to your family. :) 


On Nov 7, 2011, at 4:02 PM, john pollack wrote:

 If the kitten is healthy, do not put it down. FeLV cats can live good lives. 
 My Tigger is almost 5 now. Had been healthy for the whole time, until last 
 month when he developed stomach cancer. He is still here, doing fine now. 
 Also, have 5 other cats. had them vaccinated, and to this day, none are FeLV+
 
 From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me
 
 I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
 abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
 have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
 healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. 
 Other than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this 
 kitten.  In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would 
 understand if I euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false 
 positive and whether retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has 
 hookworms.  When I took the cat in, she suggested that I give it its 
 vaccinations before waiting for test results.  I asked if the cat turned out 
 postitive, wouldn't this harm its immune system.  she said no.  Now when she 
 called she said she was surprised that the cat tested positive since, other 
 than the sore gums, which she attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said 
 it seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the 
 sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry 
 I haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and also take 
 care of my bedridden elderly mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind 
 enough to give me some advice? Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it 
 just says positive the vet estimates the cat is from 5-6 months old.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-07 Thread Christiane Biagi
You've come to the right place!  Many of us do mix pos w. neg-my own pos is
13+ years old  I got her as a kitten.  She tested neg as a very young
kitten but then tested pos years later.  By that point, she'd been around my
other cats so I just decided to vaccinate them for felv and mix.  Nobody has
ever tested pos.  I also took in an older stray who (to my surprise) also
tested pos.  He lived a number of years w. all the other cats  died last
year from lymphoma-something the pos cats are more susceptible to.

 

But mixing is a personal decision.  Personally, I wouldn't think twice about
it.  Now as far as kitty, I would wait a few weeks  get it retested with
the IFA (blood drawn  sent to lab.  There is always the risk that the
Elissa (snap test done in office) could be a false pos or that kitty could
throw off the virus.  Remember that the virus does not actually kill the
kitty-but it weakens their immune system  they can be more susceptible to
uri, lymphoma, anemia, gum problems.  But my Tucson is a fat 16 lbs and
doing fine!  

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dppl dppl
Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 6:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

 

I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old.
Other than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this
kitten.  In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would
understand if I euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false
positive and whether retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has
hookworms.  When I took the cat in, she suggested that I give it its
vaccinations before waiting for test results.  I asked if the cat turned out
postitive, wouldn't this harm its immune system.  she said no.  Now when she
called she said she was surprised that the cat tested positive since, other
than the sore gums, which she attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she
said it seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is
the sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm
sorry I haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and also
take care of my bedridden elderly mother.  Is there anyone out there would
be kind enough to give me some advice? Thank you. PS  the test done was
elisa and it just says positive the vet estimates the cat is from 5-6
months old.

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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-07 Thread dppl dppl
 
thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will review 
all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails.  I see my 
post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for your advice.  I 
guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  advice to get the 
other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out negative. I am worried 
about the redness of his gums which he is on an antibiotic for. Vet attributed 
it to gingivitis and teething but this was pre finding out the positive test 
results.



From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me


I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether 
retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms.  When I took the cat 
in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting for test 
results.  I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't this harm its 
immune system.  she said no.  Now when she called she said she was surprised 
that the cat tested positive since, other than the sore gums, which she 
attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said it
 seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the 
sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I 
haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and also take care 
of my bedridden elderly mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind enough 
to give me some advice? Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it just says 
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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-07 Thread MaiMaiPG
There are holistic remedies for the gum issues.  That was the only  
sign Dixie showedask questions and seek information.  A lot of  
emails get chopped because they are too long to post---someone else  
can explain this.

On Nov 7, 2011, at 7:33 PM, dppl dppl wrote:



thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I  
will review all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending  
these emails.  I see my post  is all chopped up (at least in my  
display ). Thanks for your advice.  I guess i will take things day  
by day.  thanks also for the  advice to get the other test as a  
follow up.i can only hope it turns out negative. I am worried about  
the redness of his gums which he is on an antibiotic for. Vet  
attributed it to gingivitis and teething but this was pre finding  
out the positive test results.


From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me

I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that  
the abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to  
the vet,  I have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that  
since it seemed so healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4  
cats over 12 years old. Other than walking on the same floors, they  
have not had contact with this kitten.  In our short phone call, the  
vet basically said that she would understand if I euthanized the cat  
and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether retesting  
would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms.  When I took the  
cat in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting  
for test results.  I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't  
this harm its immune system.  she said no.  Now when she called she  
said she was surprised that the cat tested positive since, other  
than the sore gums, which she attirbuted to teething and bad breath,  
she said it seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and  
plays. and is the sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am  
heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I haven't had time to read all  
archives but I work from home and also take care of my bedridden  
elderly mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind enough to  
give me some advice? Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it  
just says positive the vet estimates the cat is from 5-6 months old.



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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-07 Thread ccarlsberg
What are some of these holistic remedies for gum issues? Tweetys gums as pretty 
bad and they want to pull out 3 of his teeth. :( I'm terribly nervous about 
that surgery. He is 9. 
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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-07 Thread Lynda Wilson
This kitty still has a good chance of clearing the virus. I would retest again 
in 30 to 90 days. If it is positive again, then do an IFA test.  I would not 
worry at all that it has casual contact with your other cats.  In order for 
your other cats to contract FeLV, they would have to groom each other, share 
litter boxes, drink after one another or bite each other. Even then most cats 
do not contract it. I would just get your other cats the FeLV vaccination, must 
be 2 shots, 3 weeks apart.

As far as hook worms, there is a chance of your other cats contracting it. 
Those worms from what I understand goes through the toes of the cats so where 
that cat walked,  it could infect any of your cats that walked in the same 
place.

Keep the faith and keep us posted.  I hope this helps.  Also, you probably need 
to change vets, FeLV is not a death sentence. Many cats live healthy lives with 
it.  It deserves a chance.

Lynda
  - Original Message - 
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  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, November 07, 2011 5:52 PM
  Subject: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me


  I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether 
retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms.  When I took the cat 
in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting for test 
results.  I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't this harm its 
immune system.  she said no.  Now when she called she said she was surprised 
that the cat tested positive since, other than the sore gums, which she 
attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said it seemed healthy.  It does 
seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the sweetest cat, loving and 
intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I haven't had time to read 
all archives but I work from home and also take care of my bedridden elderly 
mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind enough to give me some advice? 
Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it just says positive the vet 
estimates the cat is from 5-6 months old.


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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-07 Thread Maureen Olvey

Like everyone else has said, ALWAYS ALWAYS re-test.  Never rely on one positive 
ELISA test.  It can show a false positive but even if it's not a false positive 
it is possible the cat can extinguish, meaning totally get rid of, the virus.  
I would do an IFA test like someone else mentioned.  It looks to see if the 
virus has spread into the white blood cells.  If the IFA is negative the cat 
can still kick the virus so you would need to wait and re-test.  Also, the cat 
could put the virus into dormancy, which means it may  not ever have problems 
with the virus and it can't spread it.
 
Lots of people on the site have mixed positives and negatives.  I have a friend 
with lots of rescued cats.  She has 3 positive cats.  She has all her negative 
cats vaccinated against FeLV and over the years none have ever caught FeLV.  
She even has FIV positive cats that get vaccinated and have never caught the 
FeLV virus.  No vaccinations are 100% but it would seem that in most cases it 
works.  Another vet I talked with said that most researchers now feel that even 
non-vaccinated healthy adult cats are resistant to the FeLV virus.  So even if 
you don't vaccinate it's possible the other cats wouldn't catch the virus.  
That happened in my house.  No cats in my house caught the virus from one who 
had it (her first test was negative so I didn't know I had a FeLV cat mixed in 
until she died and we did the necropsy and another ELISA).  None of my cats 
were vaccinated against FeLV but somehow none of them caught it.  In your case 
though, I wouldn't take the chance and would vaccinate the other cats but it's 
just interesting that it's not spread as easy as many people believe.
 
 
 
“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 



Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 17:33:50 -0800
From: dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me



 
thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will review 
all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails.  I see my 
post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for your advice.  I 
guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  advice to get the 
other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out negative. I am worried 
about the redness of his gums which he is on an antibiotic for. Vet attributed 
it to gingivitis and teething but this was pre finding out the positive test 
results.




From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me





I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether 
retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms.  When I took the cat 
in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting for test 
results.  I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't this harm its 
immune system.  she said no.  Now when she called she said she was surprised 
that the cat tested positive since, other than the sore gums, which she 
attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said it seemed healthy.  It does 
seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the sweetest cat, loving and 
intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I haven't had time to read 
all archives but I work from home and also take care of my bedridden elderly 
mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind enough to give me some advice? 
Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it just says positive the vet 
estimates the cat is from 5-6 months old.


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Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me

2011-11-07 Thread D.S.Louis

I too got a 'Positive kitty from the pound.have had her 3 yrsmy other 
cat has been with all everyday (got him vacinated)...BOTH are greatand 
healthy

A failure is just a stopover on the way to SUCCESS.



From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 7:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me


 
Like everyone else has said, ALWAYS ALWAYS re-test.  Never rely on one positive 
ELISA test.  It can show a false positive but even if it's not a false positive 
it is possible the cat can extinguish, meaning totally get rid of, the virus.  
I would do an IFA test like someone else mentioned.  It looks to see if the 
virus has spread into the white blood cells.  If the IFA is negative the cat 
can still kick the virus so you would need to wait and re-test.  Also, the cat 
could put the virus into dormancy, which means it may  not ever have problems 
with the virus and it can't spread it.
 
Lots of people on the site have mixed positives and negatives.  I have a friend 
with lots of rescued cats.  She has 3 positive cats.  She has all her negative 
cats vaccinated against FeLV and over the years none have ever caught FeLV.  
She even has FIV positive cats that get vaccinated and have never caught the 
FeLV virus.  No vaccinations are 100% but it would seem that in most cases it 
works.  Another vet I talked with said that most researchers now feel that even 
non-vaccinated healthy adult cats are resistant to the FeLV virus.  So even if 
you don't vaccinate it's possible the other cats wouldn't catch the virus.  
That happened in my house.  No cats in my house caught the virus from one who 
had it (her first test was negative so I didn't know I had a FeLV cat mixed in 
until she died and we did the necropsy and another ELISA).  None of my cats 
were vaccinated against FeLV but somehow none of them caught it.  In your case 
though, I
 wouldn't take the chance and would vaccinate the other cats but it's just 
interesting that it's not spread as easy as many people believe.
 
 
 
“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 




Date: Mon, 7 Nov 2011 17:33:50 -0800
From: dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] stray kitten positive any advice for me


  
thank you all for responding so quickly.  when i have more time I will review 
all archives. I hope i am posting correctly by sending these emails.  I see my 
post  is all chopped up (at least in my display ). Thanks for your advice.  I 
guess i will take things day by day.  thanks also for the  advice to get the 
other test as a follow up.i can only hope it turns out negative. I am worried 
about the redness of his gums which he is on an antibiotic for. Vet attributed 
it to gingivitis and teething but this was pre finding out the positive test 
results. 
 


From: dppl dppl dppl1...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, November 7, 2011 6:52 PM
Subject: stray kitten positive any advice for me


I came across this site, having just been informed by the vet that the 
abandoned kitten I took in three weeks ago. Before I took it to the vet,  I 
have been keeping it in a separate room but admit that since it seemed so 
healthy I let it out for little walks.  I have 4 cats over 12 years old. Other 
than walking on the same floors, they have not had contact with this kitten.  
In our short phone call, the vet basically said that she would understand if I 
euthanized the cat and that she wasn't sure about false positive and whether 
retesting would be worthwhile. The cat also has hookworms.  When I took the cat 
in, she suggested that I give it its vaccinations before waiting for test 
results.  I asked if the cat turned out postitive, wouldn't this harm its 
immune system.  she said no.  Now when she called she said she was surprised 
that the cat tested positive since, other than the sore gums, which she 
attirbuted to teething and bad breath, she said it
 seemed healthy.  It does seem healthy , eats well and plays. and is the 
sweetest cat, loving and intelligent.  I am heartbroken about this. I'm sorry I 
haven't had time to read all archives but I work from home and also take care 
of my bedridden elderly mother.  Is there anyone out there would be kind enough 
to give me some advice? Thank you. PS  the test done was elisa and it just says 
positive the vet estimates the cat is from 5-6 months old.


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