Re: [Felvtalk] took Yahmuna (FIV+) to vet yesterday to get vaccinated for feline leukemia

2012-02-27 Thread GRAS
As much as I try not to overuse antibiotics, in cases of animals with
suppressed immune systems, one should be vigilant not to allow any infection
to take more hold because it may take more antibiotics in the long run.  If
gums are inflamed, first sign of anything more serious, and if the vet
believes that it could lead to pneumonia, I would use the doxycylines. For
the record, I am all for using alternatives as much as possible, but dealing
with FIV/FeLV positive cats, it's more difficult than with healthy cats.
Natalie

 

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Subject: [Felvtalk] took Yahmuna (FIV+) to vet yesterday to get vaccinated
for feline leukemia

 


why be difficult when with a little extra effort you can be impossible.
 
took Yahmuna to vet yesterday with intent to get vaccinated.  she had been
sneezing during week. gums were inflamed as before.  no drooling.  she
sounded wet.  no discharge from eyes or nose. vet noted no temperature.  vet
listened to lungs.  I pointed out her teeth.  he said she needed to go on
antibiotics - - her lungs - - her teeth - - could go into pneumonia.  I
reminded him that two weeks ago he said no antibiotics - - only treat when
symptomatic.  I said I wanted to wait.  he said why would I wait?  I said
antibiotics have not generally been helpful for her.  I came home with
doxycyline which 30 hours later I have not started.  
 
in fairness to him.  was hint of greenish mucus at nostrils this morning.  a
tissue applied only came away wet.  she sneezed and there was greenish mucus
which landed on the sink.  last night her breathing sounded somewhat
high-pitched.  not today.
 
 
I did not say I was not going to do anything.  have been giving more vitamin
C. started the PetzLife oral gel.  continuing chicken broth and humidity of
shower and humdifier.  did a 20 minutes of car therapy (carrier in car - -
curved car windows capture heat).  I have almost drowned on drive to airport
from my own sinus drainage.   
 
your comments?  thank you.

 

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Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 05:39:30 -0800

I had a cat like that - Sounded like upper resp because of scar tissue. She
had been a street cat for many many years  vet said it was due to not being
treated for URI's. They said they could do surgery  clear out the scar
tissue, but it might come back, so I opted not to do it. She always sounded
like she had a URI, but she didn't.

 
Beth 


 

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From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:47 PM

re:  Yahmuna:  FIV + I first wrote you about Jan. 2010. She came to my NC
patio on Thanksgiving with goopy eyes very, very unwell.  Went into rescue
in 7.2011.  they finally had her on every 3 days oral azithromycin and
azythromycin nasal drops.  She had chronic respiratory issues there.  air
quality seemed good.  I took her to vet this past Saturday when I brought
her home forever.  Vet's thinking was so much scar tissue/inflammation that
she will always be loud breather.  He said to discontinue treatment and
treat her when she becomes symptomatic.   I DID NOTICE THAT HER BREATHING
SEEMED BETTER AT VET's OFFICE.  no carpet. Her breathing is loud;  This
morning there was a wee bit of clear moisture draining from one eye.  I have
humidifier going continually/ she comes for showers.  is sequestered in same
bedroom where she was from 11.2010 - 7.2011.THANK YOU!!!   cz.   

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Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:44:18 -0800

Chronic upper respiratory or chronic allergies? My FIV cat got bad
congestion every 6 months when the weather changed  I started the furnace
or air conditioning. He was vaccinated for FeLV  lived fine mixing with my
FeLV cats for 10 years. He was vaccinated for FeLV every 6 months when there
were FeLV's in the house  he never got the FeLV. If it is actually upper
respiratory with a fever, etc, then you don't vaccinate for anything,

If you are worried about  about fighting  transferring the FIV, you can
have the FIV cat's canines filed down to prevent deep bite wounds  minimize
chance of passing the FIV.

 
Beth

 

 

 

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] took Yahmuna (FIV+) to vet yesterday to get vaccinated for feline leukemia

2012-02-27 Thread Marcia
I also agree, I'd use the antibiotic. The bacteria have to be killed before 
they get out of hand.

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On Feb 27, 2012, at 9:47 AM, GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote:

 As much as I try not to overuse antibiotics, in cases of animals with 
 suppressed immune systems, one should be vigilant not to allow any infection 
 to take more hold because it may take more antibiotics in the long run.  If 
 gums are inflamed, first sign of anything more serious, and if the vet 
 believes that it could lead to pneumonia, I would use the doxycylines. For 
 the record, I am all for using alternatives as much as possible, but dealing 
 with FIV/FeLV positive cats, it’s more difficult than with healthy cats. 
 Natalie
  
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz
 Sent: Sunday, February 26, 2012 3:02 PM
 To: feline leukemia list
 Cc: Karin Jennings; Deborah Abendroth; dancingreenwo...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] took Yahmuna (FIV+) to vet yesterday to get vaccinated 
 for feline leukemia
  
 
 why be difficult when with a little extra effort you can be impossible.
  
 took Yahmuna to vet yesterday with intent to get vaccinated.  she had been 
 sneezing during week. gums were inflamed as before.  no drooling.  she 
 sounded wet.  no discharge from eyes or nose. vet noted no temperature.  vet 
 listened to lungs.  I pointed out her teeth.  he said she needed to go on 
 antibiotics - - her lungs - - her teeth - - could go into pneumonia.  I 
 reminded him that two weeks ago he said no antibiotics - - only treat when 
 symptomatic.  I said I wanted to wait.  he said why would I wait?  I said 
 antibiotics have not generally been helpful for her.  I came home with 
 doxycyline which 30 hours later I have not started.  
  
 in fairness to him.  was hint of greenish mucus at nostrils this morning.  a 
 tissue applied only came away wet.  she sneezed and there was greenish mucus 
 which landed on the sink.  last night her breathing sounded somewhat 
 high-pitched.  not today.
  
  
 I did not say I was not going to do anything.  have been giving more vitamin 
 C. started the PetzLife oral gel.  continuing chicken broth and humidity of 
 shower and humdifier.  did a 20 minutes of car therapy (carrier in car - - 
 curved car windows capture heat).  I have almost drowned on drive to airport 
 from my own sinus drainage.   
  
 your comments?  thank you.
 
  
 Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 05:39:30 -0800
 
 I had a cat like that - Sounded like upper resp because of scar tissue. She 
 had been a street cat for many many years  vet said it was due to not being 
 treated for URI's. They said they could do surgery  clear out the scar 
 tissue, but it might come back, so I opted not to do it. She always sounded 
 like she had a URI, but she didn't.
  
 Beth
 
  
 From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com
 Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:47 PM
 re:  Yahmuna:  FIV + I first wrote you about Jan. 2010. She came to my NC 
 patio on Thanksgiving with goopy eyes very, very unwell.  Went into rescue in 
 7.2011.  they finally had her on every 3 days oral azithromycin and 
 azythromycin nasal drops.  She had chronic respiratory issues there.  air 
 quality seemed good.  I took her to vet this past Saturday when I brought her 
 home forever.  Vet's thinking was so much scar tissue/inflammation that she 
 will always be loud breather.  He said to discontinue treatment and treat her 
 when she becomes symptomatic.   I DID NOTICE THAT HER BREATHING SEEMED BETTER 
 AT VET's OFFICE.  no carpet. Her breathing is loud;  This morning there was a 
 wee bit of clear moisture draining from one eye.  I have humidifier going 
 continually/ she comes for showers.  is sequestered in same bedroom where she 
 was from 11.2010 - 7.2011.THANK YOU!!!   cz.   
 Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:44:18 -0800
 
 Chronic upper respiratory or chronic allergies? My FIV cat got bad congestion 
 every 6 months when the weather changed  I started the furnace or air 
 conditioning. He was vaccinated for FeLV  lived fine mixing with my FeLV 
 cats for 10 years. He was vaccinated for FeLV every 6 months when there were 
 FeLV's in the house  he never got the FeLV. If it is actually upper 
 respiratory with a fever, etc, then you don't vaccinate for anything,
 If you are worried about  about fighting  transferring the FIV, you can have 
 the FIV cat's canines filed down to prevent deep bite wounds  minimize 
 chance of passing the FIV.
  
 Beth
  
  
  
  
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[Felvtalk] took Yahmuna (FIV+) to vet yesterday to get vaccinated for feline leukemia

2012-02-26 Thread czadna sacarawicz


why be difficult when with a little extra effort you can be impossible.
 
took Yahmuna to vet yesterday with intent to get vaccinated.  she had been 
sneezing during week. gums were inflamed as before.  no drooling.  she sounded 
wet.  no discharge from eyes or nose. vet noted no temperature.  vet listened 
to lungs.  I pointed out her teeth.  he said she needed to go on antibiotics - 
- her lungs - - her teeth - - could go into pneumonia.  I reminded him that two 
weeks ago he said no antibiotics - - only treat when symptomatic.  I said I 
wanted to wait.  he said why would I wait?  I said antibiotics have not 
generally been helpful for her.  I came home with doxycyline which 30 hours 
later I have not started.  
 
in fairness to him.  was hint of greenish mucus at nostrils this morning.  a 
tissue applied only came away wet.  she sneezed and there was greenish mucus 
which landed on the sink.  last night her breathing sounded somewhat 
high-pitched.  not today.
 
 
I did not say I was not going to do anything.  have been giving more vitamin C. 
started the PetzLife oral gel.  continuing chicken broth and humidity of shower 
and humdifier.  did a 20 minutes of car therapy (carrier in car - - curved car 
windows capture heat).  I have almost drowned on drive to airport from my own 
sinus drainage.   
 
your comments?  thank you.

 



Date: Thu, 16 Feb 2012 05:39:30 -0800



I had a cat like that - Sounded like upper resp because of scar tissue. She had 
been a street cat for many many years  vet said it was due to not being 
treated for URI's. They said they could do surgery  clear out the scar tissue, 
but it might come back, so I opted not to do it. She always sounded like she 
had a URI, but she didn't.
 
Beth 

 




From: czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 5:47 PM





re:  Yahmuna:  FIV + I first wrote you about Jan. 2010. She came to my NC patio 
on Thanksgiving with goopy eyes very, very unwell.  Went into rescue in 7.2011. 
 they finally had her on every 3 days oral azithromycin and azythromycin nasal 
drops.  She had chronic respiratory issues there.  air quality seemed good.  I 
took her to vet this past Saturday when I brought her home forever.  Vet's 
thinking was so much scar tissue/inflammation that she will always be loud 
breather.  He said to discontinue treatment and treat her when she becomes 
symptomatic.   I DID NOTICE THAT HER BREATHING SEEMED BETTER AT VET's OFFICE.  
no carpet. Her breathing is loud;  This morning there was a wee bit of clear 
moisture draining from one eye.  I have humidifier going continually/ she comes 
for showers.  is sequestered in same bedroom where she was from 11.2010 - 
7.2011.THANK YOU!!!   cz.   




Date: Wed, 15 Feb 2012 06:44:18 -0800



Chronic upper respiratory or chronic allergies? My FIV cat got bad congestion 
every 6 months when the weather changed  I started the furnace or air 
conditioning. He was vaccinated for FeLV  lived fine mixing with my FeLV cats 
for 10 years. He was vaccinated for FeLV every 6 months when there were FeLV's 
in the house  he never got the FeLV. If it is actually upper respiratory with 
a fever, etc, then you don't vaccinate for anything,

If you are worried about  about fighting  transferring the FIV, you can have 
the FIV cat's canines filed down to prevent deep bite wounds  minimize chance 
of passing the FIV.

 
Beth


 


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