Re: Cornell update on virus survival in a dry environment
I think James needs to change the default so that the REPLY goes to the list not the individual. Gloria On May 21, 2008, at 8:59 PM, Chris wrote: I have a feeling that the difference is that you now have to “reply to all” to reply to the list—otherwise the mail just goes to the person who posted it. Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Sally Davis Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2008 9:30 PM To: MacKenzie, Kerry N.; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Cornell update on virus survival in a dry environment I am having the same problem. Not many emails here either. Sally On 5/21/08, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for that Sally. I must find time to look at it. On a different note, I don't think the list can be working. Replies to emails from the list seem to go only to the respondee, unless Reply to All is chosen. I'll try to contact James tomorrow. What sort of service are you getting? Normal, or hardly anything? Kerry From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Sally Davis Sent: Sunday, May 18, 2008 8:35 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Cornell update on virus survival in a dry environment Hi Folks, I ran across this article updating Cornell's stance on this subject. According to cornell the FELV virus can still survive 5-7 days in a dry environment. http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/askDr/FeLVEnvironment.pdf -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Cornell update on virus survival in a dry environment
Hi Gloria, it is set to go to the list, not sure if it was originally but it is now. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
RE: Cornell update on virus survival in a dry environment
Great! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Cornell update on virus survival in a dry environment Hi Gloria, it is set to go to the list, not sure if it was originally but it is now. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
RE: Cornell update on virus survival in a dry environment
Now seems to be working fine! Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of MacKenzie, Kerry N. Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 12:05 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: RE: Cornell update on virus survival in a dry environment Great! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 10:54 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: Cornell update on virus survival in a dry environment Hi Gloria, it is set to go to the list, not sure if it was originally but it is now. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Cornell update on virus survival in a dry environment
I am having the same problem. Not many emails here either. Sally On 5/21/08, MacKenzie, Kerry N. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks for that Sally. I must find time to look at it. On a different note, I don't think the list can be working. Replies to emails from the list seem to go only to the respondee, unless Reply to All is chosen. I'll try to contact James tomorrow. What sort of service are you getting? Normal, or hardly anything? Kerry -- *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Sally Davis *Sent:* Sunday, May 18, 2008 8:35 PM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Cornell update on virus survival in a dry environment Hi Folks, I ran across this article updating Cornell's stance on this subject. According to cornell the FELV virus can still survive 5-7 days in a dry environment. http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/askDr/FeLVEnvironment.pdf -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 _ IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any tax advice expressed above by Mayer Brown LLP was not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, by any taxpayer to avoid U.S. federal tax penalties. If such advice was written or used to support the promotion or marketing of the matter addressed above, then each offeree should seek advice from an independent tax advisor. This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Cornell update on virus survival in a dry environment
Hi Folks, I ran across this article updating Cornell's stance on this subject. According to cornell the FELV virus can still survive 5-7 days in a dry environment. http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/askDr/FeLVEnvironment.pdf -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Cornell update on virus survival in a dry environment
Hmmm, this is what I get out of it. What they seem to be saying is that there are 2 kind of viruses, enveloped viruses and non-enveloped viruses. The enveloped ones break down more easily. FELV is an enveloped virus, as are FIPV, FIV, and HIV. They did some tests with other enveloped viruses, and depending on the conditions, the virus lasted longer than was expected. They did not, however, do tests on the FELV virus, and couldn't find any that had been done on FELV; but they're assuming that it's possibly true that this virus can last longer in the environment that they thought (or not). This is an excerpt from that article - a paragraph about FELV is underlined and bigger: --- ... For years it was assumed that the enveloped FIPV and the other feline coronaviruses were quite labile and did not survive outside the cat any length of time, perhaps a matter of hours. However, studies in our laboratory on the survivability of FIPV on contaminated objects provided surprising results. Aliquots of an infectious viral preparation were dried onto Petri dishes and allowed to remain at room temperature for up to seven weeks. At varying times samples were assayed for infectious virus. There was some loss of infectivity during the drying process, but then the amount of infectious virus remained relatively constant with only a gradual decrease in viability. FIPV virus could be recovered up to seven weeks from these dried samples. Results of studies on other parvoviruses, herpesviruses, and coronaviruses of animals were consistent with our findings. [Brown, AmJVetRes 42:1033-36, 1981] I have attempted to find published controlled studies that address the survivability of FeLV in the environment, but to date I have been unable to find a creditable report in the literature. Absent such a study, what can we learn from other studies that can reasonably predict what occurs with FeLV. Van Bueren et al. [J. Clin. Microbiol. 32(2):571-574, 1994] studied the survival of human immunodeficiency virus (HIV), the cause of human AIDS, in suspension and dried on surfaces. They looked at survival of both cell-free and cell-associated virus either suspended in serum or dried onto glass surfaces. Both cell-associated and cell-free HIV suspended in serum survived for several weeks at room temperature. Cell-free HIV that was dried onto a glass surface survived for at least seven days, while cell-associated HIV was inactivated faster than cell-free virus, but still survived up to five days. The published results of several other studies on HIV are consistent with the results obtained by Van Bueren et al. FeLV, HIV, and FIV all belong to the same virus family, retroviruses. It is reasonable to assume that the survivability of FeLV on a contaminated surface will be similar to that of HIV – days to weeks rather that minutes to hours. There is no scientific evidence to show that the simple process of drying of FeLV immediately renders it inactive or not infectious. On May 18, 2008, at 8:35 PM, Sally Davis wrote: Hi Folks, I ran across this article updating Cornell's stance on this subject. According to cornell the FELV virus can still survive 5-7 days in a dry environment. http://www.vet.cornell.edu/fhc/askDr/FeLVEnvironment.pdf -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
