Re: Herpes virus - L-lysine

2008-03-22 Thread catatonya
are you asking? or are you telling me it's just lysine
  tonya.  too late at night to 'get' it!

MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  isn't it just the fancied-up, 
so-the-vet-and-companies-can-make-more-money-on-it version of lysine? in a 
palatable gel, or something, maybe with some vitamins thrown in?

asks the cynic.

  On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 4:40 PM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is Viralys? and/or where do you get it? dosage?  can I give it to all 
the cats like the lysine?
  thanks,
  tonya  

laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  I use Viralys and sprinkle it on a small amount of cannedfood so I am 
sure they get it all.Or crush a pill and sprinkle, again, on a small amount 
(Tablespoon) of canned food. Mine aren't great about being syringed. L-lysine 
is tasteless and since they eat canned, this is easing dosing for me (also I 
have 5 cats currently, so easier with those numbers). The Yahoo herpes group 
has suggestions about dosing, etc.
  L
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Re: Herpes virus - L-lysine in Viralys form

2008-03-22 Thread catatonya
thanks.  i'll keep crushing till I can get to the store and buy the plain old 
powder.  Sneaker (the one with the herpes) will rarely come and eat the food 
with the lysine in it anyway. :(
  t

laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I get it from my vet but have found online, too.
  It's more expensive than buying the tablets yoursefl and crushing them.
  It's powder form so easy to use for multiple cats and has chicken flavoring. 
I confess I use it sometimes to get my Coco to eat. She is an on again off 
again eater. Ingredients: L-lysine in a platable flavor base. 
  Laurie
- Original Message - 
  From: MaryChristine 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 3:28 PM
  Subject: Re: Herpes virus - L-lysine
  

isn't it just the fancied-up, 
so-the-vet-and-companies-can-make-more-money-on-it version of lysine? in a 
palatable gel, or something, maybe with some vitamins thrown in?

asks the cynic.

  On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 4:40 PM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is Viralys? and/or where do you get it? dosage?  can I give it to all 
the cats like the lysine?
  thanks,
  tonya   

laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


  I use Viralys and sprinkle it on a small amount of cannedfood so I am 
sure they get it all.Or crush a pill and sprinkle, again, on a small amount 
(Tablespoon) of canned food. Mine aren't great about being syringed. L-lysine 
is tasteless and since they eat canned, this is easing dosing for me (also I 
have 5 cats currently, so easier with those numbers). The Yahoo herpes group 
has suggestions about dosing, etc.
  L
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Re: Herpes virus - L-lysine

2008-03-22 Thread MaryChristine
a little bit of both, i'd guess. someone else answers it,
tho--chicken-flavoring

On Sat, Mar 22, 2008 at 3:11 AM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 are you asking? or are you telling me it's just lysine
 tonya.  too late at night to 'get' it!


 *MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 isn't it just the fancied-up,
 so-the-vet-and-companies-can-make-more-money-on-it version of lysine? in a
 palatable gel, or something, maybe with some vitamins thrown in?

 asks the cynic.

 On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 4:40 PM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  What is Viralys? and/or where do you get it? dosage?  can I give it to
  all the cats like the lysine?
  thanks,
  tonya
 
  *laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:
 
  I use Viralys and sprinkle it on a small amount of cannedfood so I am
  sure they get it all.Or crush a pill and sprinkle, again, on a small
  amount (Tablespoon) of canned food. Mine aren't great about being syringed.
  L-lysine is tasteless and since they eat canned, this is easing dosing for
  me (also I have 5 cats currently, so easier with those numbers). The Yahoo
  herpes group has suggestions about dosing, etc.
  L
 
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Re: Herpes virus - L-lysine

2008-03-16 Thread catatonya
What is Viralys? and/or where do you get it? dosage?  can I give it to all the 
cats like the lysine?
  thanks,
  tonya

laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I use Viralys and sprinkle it on a small amount of cannedfood so I am 
sure they get it all.Or crush a pill and sprinkle, again, on a small amount 
(Tablespoon) of canned food. Mine aren't great about being syringed. L-lysine 
is tasteless and since they eat canned, this is easing dosing for me (also I 
have 5 cats currently, so easier with those numbers). The Yahoo herpes group 
has suggestions about dosing, etc.
  L
- 



Re: Herpes virus - L-lysine

2008-03-16 Thread MaryChristine
isn't it just the fancied-up,
so-the-vet-and-companies-can-make-more-money-on-it version of lysine? in a
palatable gel, or something, maybe with some vitamins thrown in?

asks the cynic.

On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 4:40 PM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 What is Viralys? and/or where do you get it? dosage?  can I give it to all
 the cats like the lysine?
 thanks,
 tonya

 *laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED]* wrote:

 I use Viralys and sprinkle it on a small amount of cannedfood so I am sure
 they get it all.Or crush a pill and sprinkle, again, on a small amount
 (Tablespoon) of canned food. Mine aren't great about being syringed.
 L-lysine is tasteless and since they eat canned, this is easing dosing for
 me (also I have 5 cats currently, so easier with those numbers). The Yahoo
 herpes group has suggestions about dosing, etc.
 L

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Re: Herpes virus - L-lysine in Viralys form

2008-03-16 Thread laurieskatz
I get it from my vet but have found online, too.
It's more expensive than buying the tablets yoursefl and crushing them.
It's powder form so easy to use for multiple cats and has chicken flavoring. I 
confess I use it sometimes to get my Coco to eat. She is an on again off again 
eater. Ingredients: L-lysine in a platable flavor base. 
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: MaryChristine 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, March 16, 2008 3:28 PM
  Subject: Re: Herpes virus - L-lysine


  isn't it just the fancied-up, 
so-the-vet-and-companies-can-make-more-money-on-it version of lysine? in a 
palatable gel, or something, maybe with some vitamins thrown in?

  asks the cynic.


  On Sun, Mar 16, 2008 at 4:40 PM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

What is Viralys? and/or where do you get it? dosage?  can I give it to all 
the cats like the lysine?
thanks,
tonya


laurieskatz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I use Viralys and sprinkle it on a small amount of cannedfood so I am 
sure they get it all.Or crush a pill and sprinkle, again, on a small amount 
(Tablespoon) of canned food. Mine aren't great about being syringed. L-lysine 
is tasteless and since they eat canned, this is easing dosing for me (also I 
have 5 cats currently, so easier with those numbers). The Yahoo herpes group 
has suggestions about dosing, etc.
  L
- 





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Re: Herpes virus

2008-03-12 Thread MaryChristine
just do a search for l-lysine--it's readily available on-line, often at
better prices than at your local health-food store, if you have one. NOW
brand runs $14.99/pound retail in the powdered form.


On Mon, Mar 10, 2008 at 5:01 PM, Pat Kachur [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I am not sure about the ratio question--since I mix it with canned food.
 However, I purchase it at Whole Foods--but have seen it at most regular drug
 stores, too.

 - Original Message -
 *From:* [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Monday, March 10, 2008 2:45 PM
 *Subject:* Re: Herpes virus

 Hi -- Could you give me a ratio of how much l-lysine added to how much
 water? And is it readily available in powdered form, and from where? Thank
 you so much!

 Diane




 - Original Message -
 From: MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 12:46:11 PM (GMT-0500) America/Bogota
 Subject: Re: Herpes virus

 l-lysine is a wondrous thing. tricks the herpes virus into not
 replicating, for some still-to-be-determined reasons. there is ongoing
 research to find out how and why, and the EXACT dosage to use in cats; many
 multi-cat facilities use is prophylatically (um, haven't had caffeine yet,
 is that spelled correctly?)--it's quite inexpensive when bought in the
 powdered form and we just added it to the water at the sanctuary. we saw a
 marked difference in both eye problems and the snifflies. one of the
 california vet associations years back said that all cats should be on it;
 and it's about the only thing i've ever come across that MDs, DOs, DVMs, and
 holistic practitioners all agree upon.

 On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  I just assume if cats have been in a shelter or rescue, that they've
  been exposed to Herpes, and of course have had quite a few.  I use Lysine
  orally - I start out with 500 mg(powder mixed with small amt of water) via
  syringe twice a day.  And of course clean the eyes.  If they have Herpes, it
  starts showing improvement within a few days, in my experience.  At some
  point I cut back to 250 MG twice daily, and eventually stop.  Lysine is
  what's used on humans who have Herpes mouth sores (but think that's a
  different strain of Herpes).
  I know some folks in the past, on this list, have used interferon alpha.
   Some have put it directly in the eyes, although I've never used it that
  way.
 
  My understanding is that once the stress is reduced and they start
  getting healthy, they seem to  do fine.  It's not nearly what FELV is.  I'd
  certainly encourage you to go for it.
 
  Gloria
 
 
   On Mar 8, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Lynne wrote:
 
   Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with the
  herpes virus in cats.  There is this young cat I saw a picture of who is in
  a rescue shelter at the moment . The poor little thing was a total wreck
  when this woman took her in and she is now in the process of getting her
  eyes cleaned up.  They look a whole lot better than they did before this
  woman got hold of her.  Apparently the vet who is taking care of the cat
  said her eyes would have to be cleaned at least twice a day and when and if
  she has flareups the appropriate treatment will have to be given.  She is
  being spayed very shortly and is going to be up for adoption fairly soon.  I
  said I would take her probably because she reminded me a lot of BooBoo.
  She's all white and from the picture looks like she may have persian in
  her.  She has that same flat little face that Boo did.  Would I be getting
  myself into something like I just went through with Boo or is there more
  hope for these animals. This kitty has tested negative for feline leukemia.
  I haven't even told my husband yet.  I just blurted out that I would take
  her.  I don't even know if I'll be chosen anyway.
 
  Lynne
 
 
 


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Re: Herpes virus--ferals

2008-03-10 Thread Gloria Lane

Think I buy a big bottle for about $8.

Gloria



On Mar 9, 2008, at 11:31 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote:

Isn't lysine odorless and tasteless?  I've got to admit to never  
having tasted it.


On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED]  
wrote:
Sort of on this subject...there is a feral who eats/hangs out at  
my mother's.  I suspect it has herpes.  There is no real way for me  
to be sure.  This cat, and most of the others who hang out there  
cannot be touched.  Does anyone have any ideas about what can be  
added to food that might help?  There is no other way to get meds/ 
suppements into them and they are very suspicious of anything added  
to the food...even smelly fishy food.


Lynne, follow your heart.  Booboo strengthen and enlarged it.  You  
must decide what to do with it.

On Mar 8, 2008, at 3:59 PM, laurieskatz wrote:

Lynne, there is a great herpes yahoo group that I belong to. You  
might look into it. My vet thinks 2 of my cats may have this virus.  
Stress causes it to flare. It can cause eye (and mouth?) problems.  
I give L-lysine twice a day during a flare up. I have never had to  
do more than that with mine whose symtoms are minor. Winston  
occasionally (about once a year) gets an unexplained high fever and  
quits eating. My vet thinks it's related to the herpes. He recovers  
with anti-biotics. I don't think herpes is a big deal in most cats.


I do think it can be spread, though if my 2 have it the other 5  
didn't get it. Also, my vet didn't warn me about contagion when he  
told me he thought Lucy may have herpes (cat number 5) or when he  
told me he thought Winston had it (cat number 7). Mine have not  
been tested for it so can't say for certain that they have this.  
Lucy's eyes run with clear tears when she is stressed and Winston  
winks his eyes and they get red rimmed when he is stressed.


You might ask the shelter/vet what they will do to reduce her  
stress during and after her spay. Getting her out of the shelter is  
a GREAT way to reduce her stress!


Congrats if you adopt her!
Laurie
- Original Message -
From: Lynne
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 2:53 PM
Subject: Herpes virus

Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with  
the herpes virus in cats.  There is this young cat I saw a picture  
of who is in a rescue shelter at the moment . The poor little thing  
was a total wreck when this woman took her in and she is now in the  
process of getting her eyes cleaned up.  They look a whole lot  
better than they did before this woman got hold of her.  Apparently  
the vet who is taking care of the cat said her eyes would have to  
be cleaned at least twice a day and when and if she has flareups  
the appropriate treatment will have to be given.  She is being  
spayed very shortly and is going to be up for adoption fairly  
soon.  I said I would take her probably because she reminded me a  
lot of BooBoo.  She's all white and from the picture looks like she  
may have persian in her.  She has that same flat little face that  
Boo did.  Would I be getting myself into something like I just went  
through with Boo or is there more hope for these animals. This  
kitty has tested negative for feline leukemia.  I haven't even told  
my husband yet.  I just blurted out that I would take her.  I don't  
even know if I'll be chosen anyway.


Lynne





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Re: Herpes virus--ferals

2008-03-10 Thread laurieskatz
yes
  - Original Message - 
  From: Kelley Saveika 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 10:31 PM
  Subject: Re: Herpes virus--ferals


  Isn't lysine odorless and tasteless?  I've got to admit to never having 
tasted it.


  On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Sort of on this subject...there is a feral who eats/hangs out at my 
mother's.  I suspect it has herpes.  There is no real way for me to be sure.  
This cat, and most of the others who hang out there cannot be touched.  Does 
anyone have any ideas about what can be added to food that might help?  There 
is no other way to get meds/suppements into them and they are very suspicious 
of anything added to the food...even smelly fishy food. 


Lynne, follow your heart.  Booboo strengthen and enlarged it.  You must 
decide what to do with it.

On Mar 8, 2008, at 3:59 PM, laurieskatz wrote:


  Lynne, there is a great herpes yahoo group that I belong to. You might 
look into it. My vet thinks 2 of my cats may have this virus. Stress causes it 
to flare. It can cause eye (and mouth?) problems. I give L-lysine twice a day 
during a flare up. I have never had to do more than that with mine whose 
symtoms are minor. Winston occasionally (about once a year) gets an unexplained 
high fever and quits eating. My vet thinks it's related to the herpes. He 
recovers with anti-biotics. I don't think herpes is a big deal in most cats.

  I do think it can be spread, though if my 2 have it the other 5 didn't 
get it. Also, my vet didn't warn me about contagion when he told me he thought 
Lucy may have herpes (cat number 5) or when he told me he thought Winston had 
it (cat number 7). Mine have not been tested for it so can't say for certain 
that they have this. Lucy's eyes run with clear tears when she is stressed and 
Winston winks his eyes and they get red rimmed when he is stressed.

  You might ask the shelter/vet what they will do to reduce her stress 
during and after her spay. Getting her out of the shelter is a GREAT way to 
reduce her stress!

  Congrats if you adopt her!
  Laurie
- Original Message -
From: Lynne
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 2:53 PM
Subject: Herpes virus


Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with the 
herpes virus in cats.  There is this young cat I saw a picture of who is in a 
rescue shelter at the moment . The poor little thing was a total wreck when 
this woman took her in and she is now in the process of getting her eyes 
cleaned up.  They look a whole lot better than they did before this woman got 
hold of her.  Apparently the vet who is taking care of the cat said her eyes 
would have to be cleaned at least twice a day and when and if she has flareups 
the appropriate treatment will have to be given.  She is being spayed very 
shortly and is going to be up for adoption fairly soon.  I said I would take 
her probably because she reminded me a lot of BooBoo.  She's all white and from 
the picture looks like she may have persian in her.  She has that same flat 
little face that Boo did.  Would I be getting myself into something like I just 
went through with Boo or is there more hope for these animals. This kitty has 
tested negative for feline leukemia.  I haven't even told my husband yet.  I 
just blurted out that I would take her.  I don't even know if I'll be chosen 
anyway. 

Lynne





  -- 
  Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

  http://www.rescuties.org

  Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

  Check out our Memsaic!
  http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 

  http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

  Please help Clarissa!

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  http://www.change.org/rescuties 

Re: Herpes virus--ferals

2008-03-10 Thread laurieskatz

  Crush L-lysine tablets (500mg) and sprinkle the powder on top of, or mix the 
powder into, a little bit of canned food (or more canned food if that is more 
convenient).  I add to a small amount to my cats' food to make sure they get it 
all but a feral will likely eat all the food anyway. Maintenance dose is 250 mg 
two times a day (total of 500 mg in a day). If you see symptoms, many people 
increase that to 500mg two times a day (total of 1000 mg). 

  I bought a pill crusher from Walgreens. I can crush the pill and sprinkle 1/2 
in AM, store the rest of the powder in the crusher and use the rest of the 
crushed pill at dinner time. Works slick. Takes less than a minute to crush!

  L

On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  Sort of on this subject...there is a feral who eats/hangs out at my 
mother's.  I suspect it has herpes.  There is no real way for me to be sure.  
This cat, and most of the others who hang out there cannot be touched.  Does 
anyone have any ideas about what can be added to food that might help?  There 
is no other way to get meds/suppements into them and they are very suspicious 
of anything added to the food...even smelly fishy food. 


  Lynne, follow your heart.  Booboo strengthen and enlarged it.  You must 
decide what to do with it.

  On Mar 8, 2008, at 3:59 PM, laurieskatz wrote:


Lynne, there is a great herpes yahoo group that I belong to. You might 
look into it. My vet thinks 2 of my cats may have this virus. Stress causes it 
to flare. It can cause eye (and mouth?) problems. I give L-lysine twice a day 
during a flare up. I have never had to do more than that with mine whose 
symtoms are minor. Winston occasionally (about once a year) gets an unexplained 
high fever and quits eating. My vet thinks it's related to the herpes. He 
recovers with anti-biotics. I don't think herpes is a big deal in most cats.

I do think it can be spread, though if my 2 have it the other 5 didn't 
get it. Also, my vet didn't warn me about contagion when he told me he thought 
Lucy may have herpes (cat number 5) or when he told me he thought Winston had 
it (cat number 7). Mine have not been tested for it so can't say for certain 
that they have this. Lucy's eyes run with clear tears when she is stressed and 
Winston winks his eyes and they get red rimmed when he is stressed.

You might ask the shelter/vet what they will do to reduce her stress 
during and after her spay. Getting her out of the shelter is a GREAT way to 
reduce her stress!

Congrats if you adopt her!
Laurie
  - Original Message -
  From: Lynne
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 2:53 PM
  Subject: Herpes virus


  Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with the 
herpes virus in cats.  There is this young cat I saw a picture of who is in a 
rescue shelter at the moment . The poor little thing was a total wreck when 
this woman took her in and she is now in the process of getting her eyes 
cleaned up.  They look a whole lot better than they did before this woman got 
hold of her.  Apparently the vet who is taking care of the cat said her eyes 
would have to be cleaned at least twice a day and when and if she has flareups 
the appropriate treatment will have to be given.  She is being spayed very 
shortly and is going to be up for adoption fairly soon.  I said I would take 
her probably because she reminded me a lot of BooBoo.  She's all white and from 
the picture looks like she may have persian in her.  She has that same flat 
little face that Boo did.  Would I be getting myself into something like I just 
went through with Boo or is there more hope for these animals. This kitty has 
tested negative for feline leukemia.  I haven't even told my husband yet.  I 
just blurted out that I would take her.  I don't even know if I'll be chosen 
anyway. 

  Lynne





-- 
Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

http://www.rescuties.org

Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20

Check out our Memsaic!
http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 

http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Please help Clarissa!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart

http://www.change.org/rescuties



Re: Herpes virus

2008-03-10 Thread MaryChristine
l-lysine is a wondrous thing. tricks the herpes virus into not replicating,
for some still-to-be-determined reasons. there is ongoing research to find
out how and why, and the EXACT dosage to use in cats; many multi-cat
facilities use is prophylatically (um, haven't had caffeine yet, is that
spelled correctly?)--it's quite inexpensive when bought in the powdered form
and we just added it to the water at the sanctuary. we saw a marked
difference in both eye problems and the snifflies. one of the california vet
associations years back said that all cats should be on it; and it's about
the only thing i've ever come across that MDs, DOs, DVMs, and holistic
practitioners all agree upon.

On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I just assume if cats have been in a shelter or rescue, that they've been
 exposed to Herpes, and of course have had quite a few.  I use Lysine orally
 - I start out with 500 mg(powder mixed with small amt of water) via syringe
 twice a day.  And of course clean the eyes.  If they have Herpes, it starts
 showing improvement within a few days, in my experience.  At some point I
 cut back to 250 MG twice daily, and eventually stop.  Lysine is what's used
 on humans who have Herpes mouth sores (but think that's a different strain
 of Herpes).
 I know some folks in the past, on this list, have used interferon alpha.
  Some have put it directly in the eyes, although I've never used it that
 way.

 My understanding is that once the stress is reduced and they start getting
 healthy, they seem to  do fine.  It's not nearly what FELV is.  I'd
 certainly encourage you to go for it.

 Gloria


 On Mar 8, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Lynne wrote:

 Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with the
 herpes virus in cats.  There is this young cat I saw a picture of who is in
 a rescue shelter at the moment . The poor little thing was a total wreck
 when this woman took her in and she is now in the process of getting her
 eyes cleaned up.  They look a whole lot better than they did before this
 woman got hold of her.  Apparently the vet who is taking care of the cat
 said her eyes would have to be cleaned at least twice a day and when and if
 she has flareups the appropriate treatment will have to be given.  She is
 being spayed very shortly and is going to be up for adoption fairly soon.  I
 said I would take her probably because she reminded me a lot of BooBoo.
 She's all white and from the picture looks like she may have persian in
 her.  She has that same flat little face that Boo did.  Would I be getting
 myself into something like I just went through with Boo or is there more
 hope for these animals. This kitty has tested negative for feline leukemia.
 I haven't even told my husband yet.  I just blurted out that I would take
 her.  I don't even know if I'll be chosen anyway.

 Lynne





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Maybe That'll Make The Difference

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Re: Herpes virus

2008-03-10 Thread dagrau


Hi -- Could you give me a ratio of how much l-lysine added to how much water? 
And is it readily available in powdered form, and from where? Thank you so 
much! 

Diane 




- Original Message - 
From: MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 12:46:11 PM (GMT-0500) America/Bogota 
Subject: Re: Herpes virus 

l-lysine is a wondrous thing. tricks the herpes virus into not replicating, for 
some still-to-be-determined reasons. there is ongoing research to find out how 
and why, and the EXACT dosage to use in cats; many multi-cat facilities use is 
prophylatically (um, haven't had caffeine yet, is that spelled 
correctly?)--it's quite inexpensive when bought in the powdered form and we 
just added it to the water at the sanctuary. we saw a marked difference in both 
eye problems and the snifflies. one of the california vet associations years 
back said that all cats should be on it; and it's about the only thing i've 
ever come across that MDs, DOs, DVMs, and holistic practitioners all agree 
upon. 


On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Gloria Lane  [EMAIL PROTECTED]  wrote: 



I just assume if cats have been in a shelter or rescue, that they've been 
exposed to Herpes, and of course have had quite a few.  I use Lysine orally - I 
start out with 500 mg(powder mixed with small amt of water) via syringe twice a 
day.  And of course clean the eyes.  If they have Herpes, it starts showing 
improvement within a few days, in my experience.  At some point I cut back to 
250 MG twice daily, and eventually stop.  Lysine is what's used on humans who 
have Herpes mouth sores (but think that's a different strain of Herpes). 


I know some folks in the past, on this list, have used interferon alpha.  Some 
have put it directly in the eyes, although I've never used it that way. 



My understanding is that once the stress is reduced and they start getting 
healthy, they seem to  do fine.  It's not nearly what FELV is.  I'd certainly 
encourage you to go for it.   


Gloria 






On Mar 8, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Lynne wrote: 




Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with the herpes 
virus in cats.  There is this young cat I saw a picture of who is in a rescue 
shelter at the moment . The poor little thing was a total wreck when this woman 
took her in and she is now in the process of getting her eyes cleaned up.  They 
look a whole lot better than they did before this woman got hold of her.  
Apparently the vet who is taking care of the cat said her eyes would have to be 
cleaned at least twice a day and when and if she has flareups the appropriate 
treatment will have to be given.  She is being spayed very shortly and is going 
to be up for adoption fairly soon.  I said I would take her probably because 
she reminded me a lot of BooBoo.  She's all white and from the picture looks 
like she may have persian in her.  She has that same flat little face that Boo 
did.  Would I be getting myself into something like I just went through with 
Boo or is there more hope for these animals. This kitty has tested negative for 
feline leukemia.  I haven't even told my husband yet.  I just blurted out that 
I would take her.  I don't even know if I'll be chosen anyway.  

Lynne 



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Maybe That'll Make The Difference 

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Re: Herpes virus

2008-03-10 Thread Pat Kachur
I am not sure about the ratio question--since I mix it with canned food.  
However, I purchase it at Whole Foods--but have seen it at most regular drug 
stores, too.
  - Original Message - 
  From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 2:45 PM
  Subject: Re: Herpes virus


  Hi -- Could you give me a ratio of how much l-lysine added to how much water? 
And is it readily available in powdered form, and from where? Thank you so 
much! 

  Diane




  - Original Message -
  From: MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 12:46:11 PM (GMT-0500) America/Bogota
  Subject: Re: Herpes virus

  l-lysine is a wondrous thing. tricks the herpes virus into not replicating, 
for some still-to-be-determined reasons. there is ongoing research to find out 
how and why, and the EXACT dosage to use in cats; many multi-cat facilities use 
is prophylatically (um, haven't had caffeine yet, is that spelled 
correctly?)--it's quite inexpensive when bought in the powdered form and we 
just added it to the water at the sanctuary. we saw a marked difference in both 
eye problems and the snifflies. one of the california vet associations years 
back said that all cats should be on it; and it's about the only thing i've 
ever come across that MDs, DOs, DVMs, and holistic practitioners all agree 
upon. 



  On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 12:20 AM, Gloria Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

I just assume if cats have been in a shelter or rescue, that they've been 
exposed to Herpes, and of course have had quite a few.  I use Lysine orally - I 
start out with 500 mg(powder mixed with small amt of water) via syringe twice a 
day.  And of course clean the eyes.  If they have Herpes, it starts showing 
improvement within a few days, in my experience.  At some point I cut back to 
250 MG twice daily, and eventually stop.  Lysine is what's used on humans who 
have Herpes mouth sores (but think that's a different strain of Herpes). 


I know some folks in the past, on this list, have used interferon alpha.  
Some have put it directly in the eyes, although I've never used it that way.



My understanding is that once the stress is reduced and they start getting 
healthy, they seem to  do fine.  It's not nearly what FELV is.  I'd certainly 
encourage you to go for it.  


Gloria




On Mar 8, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Lynne wrote:


  Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with the 
herpes virus in cats.  There is this young cat I saw a picture of who is in a 
rescue shelter at the moment . The poor little thing was a total wreck when 
this woman took her in and she is now in the process of getting her eyes 
cleaned up.  They look a whole lot better than they did before this woman got 
hold of her.  Apparently the vet who is taking care of the cat said her eyes 
would have to be cleaned at least twice a day and when and if she has flareups 
the appropriate treatment will have to be given.  She is being spayed very 
shortly and is going to be up for adoption fairly soon.  I said I would take 
her probably because she reminded me a lot of BooBoo.  She's all white and from 
the picture looks like she may have persian in her.  She has that same flat 
little face that Boo did.  Would I be getting myself into something like I just 
went through with Boo or is there more hope for these animals. This kitty has 
tested negative for feline leukemia.  I haven't even told my husband yet.  I 
just blurted out that I would take her.  I don't even know if I'll be chosen 
anyway. 

  Lynne





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  Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors!
  Maybe That'll Make The Difference

  MaryChristine

  AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats
  MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  ICQ: 289856892 

Re: Herpes virus - L-lysine

2008-03-09 Thread laurieskatz
I use Viralys and sprinkle it on a small amount of cannedfood so I am sure they 
get it all.Or crush a pill and sprinkle, again, on a small amount (Tablespoon) 
of canned food. Mine aren't great about being syringed. L-lysine is tasteless 
and since they eat canned, this is easing dosing for me (also I have 5 cats 
currently, so easier with those numbers). The Yahoo herpes group has 
suggestions about dosing, etc.
L
  - 

Re: Herpes virus--ferals

2008-03-09 Thread Marylyn
Sort of on this subject...there is a feral who eats/hangs out at  
my mother's.  I suspect it has herpes.  There is no real way for me to  
be sure.  This cat, and most of the others who hang out there cannot  
be touched.  Does anyone have any ideas about what can be added to  
food that might help?  There is no other way to get meds/suppements  
into them and they are very suspicious of anything added to the  
food...even smelly fishy food.


Lynne, follow your heart.  Booboo strengthen and enlarged it.  You  
must decide what to do with it.

On Mar 8, 2008, at 3:59 PM, laurieskatz wrote:

Lynne, there is a great herpes yahoo group that I belong to. You  
might look into it. My vet thinks 2 of my cats may have this virus.  
Stress causes it to flare. It can cause eye (and mouth?) problems. I  
give L-lysine twice a day during a flare up. I have never had to do  
more than that with mine whose symtoms are minor. Winston  
occasionally (about once a year) gets an unexplained high fever and  
quits eating. My vet thinks it's related to the herpes. He recovers  
with anti-biotics. I don't think herpes is a big deal in most cats.


I do think it can be spread, though if my 2 have it the other 5  
didn't get it. Also, my vet didn't warn me about contagion when he  
told me he thought Lucy may have herpes (cat number 5) or when he  
told me he thought Winston had it (cat number 7). Mine have not been  
tested for it so can't say for certain that they have this. Lucy's  
eyes run with clear tears when she is stressed and Winston winks his  
eyes and they get red rimmed when he is stressed.


You might ask the shelter/vet what they will do to reduce her stress  
during and after her spay. Getting her out of the shelter is a GREAT  
way to reduce her stress!


Congrats if you adopt her!
Laurie
- Original Message -
From: Lynne
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 2:53 PM
Subject: Herpes virus

Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with  
the herpes virus in cats.  There is this young cat I saw a picture  
of who is in a rescue shelter at the moment . The poor little thing  
was a total wreck when this woman took her in and she is now in the  
process of getting her eyes cleaned up.  They look a whole lot  
better than they did before this woman got hold of her.  Apparently  
the vet who is taking care of the cat said her eyes would have to be  
cleaned at least twice a day and when and if she has flareups the  
appropriate treatment will have to be given.  She is being spayed  
very shortly and is going to be up for adoption fairly soon.  I said  
I would take her probably because she reminded me a lot of BooBoo.   
She's all white and from the picture looks like she may have persian  
in her.  She has that same flat little face that Boo did.  Would I  
be getting myself into something like I just went through with Boo  
or is there more hope for these animals. This kitty has tested  
negative for feline leukemia.  I haven't even told my husband yet.   
I just blurted out that I would take her.  I don't even know if I'll  
be chosen anyway.


Lynne




Re: Herpes virus--ferals

2008-03-09 Thread Kelley Saveika
Isn't lysine odorless and tasteless?  I've got to admit to never having
tasted it.

On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 2:41 PM, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Sort of on this subject...there is a feral who eats/hangs out at my
 mother's.  I suspect it has herpes.  There is no real way for me to be sure.
  This cat, and most of the others who hang out there cannot be touched.
  Does anyone have any ideas about what can be added to food that might help?
  There is no other way to get meds/suppements into them and they are very
 suspicious of anything added to the food...even smelly fishy food.
 Lynne, follow your heart.  Booboo strengthen and enlarged it.  You must
 decide what to do with it.
 On Mar 8, 2008, at 3:59 PM, laurieskatz wrote:

 Lynne, there is a great herpes yahoo group that I belong to. You might
 look into it. My vet thinks 2 of my cats may have this virus. Stress causes
 it to flare. It can cause eye (and mouth?) problems. I give L-lysine twice a
 day during a flare up. I have never had to do more than that with mine whose
 symtoms are minor. Winston occasionally (about once a year) gets an
 unexplained high fever and quits eating. My vet thinks it's related to the
 herpes. He recovers with anti-biotics. I don't think herpes is a big deal in
 most cats.

 I do think it can be spread, though if my 2 have it the other 5 didn't get
 it. Also, my vet didn't warn me about contagion when he told me he thought
 Lucy may have herpes (cat number 5) or when he told me he thought Winston
 had it (cat number 7). Mine have not been tested for it so can't say for
 certain that they have this. Lucy's eyes run with clear tears when she is
 stressed and Winston winks his eyes and they get red rimmed when he is
 stressed.

 You might ask the shelter/vet what they will do to reduce her stress
 during and after her spay. Getting her out of the shelter is a GREAT way to
 reduce her stress!

 Congrats if you adopt her!
 Laurie

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Saturday, March 08, 2008 2:53 PM
 *Subject:* Herpes virus

 Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with the
 herpes virus in cats.  There is this young cat I saw a picture of who is in
 a rescue shelter at the moment . The poor little thing was a total wreck
 when this woman took her in and she is now in the process of getting her
 eyes cleaned up.  They look a whole lot better than they did before this
 woman got hold of her.  Apparently the vet who is taking care of the cat
 said her eyes would have to be cleaned at least twice a day and when and if
 she has flareups the appropriate treatment will have to be given.  She is
 being spayed very shortly and is going to be up for adoption fairly soon.  I
 said I would take her probably because she reminded me a lot of BooBoo.
 She's all white and from the picture looks like she may have persian in
 her.  She has that same flat little face that Boo did.  Would I be getting
 myself into something like I just went through with Boo or is there more
 hope for these animals. This kitty has tested negative for feline leukemia.
 I haven't even told my husband yet.  I just blurted out that I would take
 her.  I don't even know if I'll be chosen anyway.

 Lynne





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Herpes virus

2008-03-08 Thread Lynne
Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with the herpes 
virus in cats.  There is this young cat I saw a picture of who is in a rescue 
shelter at the moment . The poor little thing was a total wreck when this woman 
took her in and she is now in the process of getting her eyes cleaned up.  They 
look a whole lot better than they did before this woman got hold of her.  
Apparently the vet who is taking care of the cat said her eyes would have to be 
cleaned at least twice a day and when and if she has flareups the appropriate 
treatment will have to be given.  She is being spayed very shortly and is going 
to be up for adoption fairly soon.  I said I would take her probably because 
she reminded me a lot of BooBoo.  She's all white and from the picture looks 
like she may have persian in her.  She has that same flat little face that Boo 
did.  Would I be getting myself into something like I just went through with 
Boo or is there more hope for these animals. This kitty has tested negative for 
feline leukemia.  I haven't even told my husband yet.  I just blurted out that 
I would take her.  I don't even know if I'll be chosen anyway.  

Lynne


Re: Herpes virus

2008-03-08 Thread Pat Kachur
Lynne - I have direct experience with a cat with herpes eye problems.  It was a 
long time ago but I adopted a lovely white young cat (not kitten) and shortly 
thereafter her eyes looked bad.  After going to regular vet, I was referred to 
a kitty ophthamologist who told me Katie would have to have two types of eye 
drops 3x per day for 8 weeks.  She also said that flare-ups were less likely as 
the cat got older.  After those 8 weeks (which were not fun), Katie's eyes were 
fine.  She never had another flare-up and lived to be 16 years old.  My vote is 
go for it.

Pat
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 3:53 PM
  Subject: Herpes virus


  Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with the herpes 
virus in cats.  There is this young cat I saw a picture of who is in a rescue 
shelter at the moment . The poor little thing was a total wreck when this woman 
took her in and she is now in the process of getting her eyes cleaned up.  They 
look a whole lot better than they did before this woman got hold of her.  
Apparently the vet who is taking care of the cat said her eyes would have to be 
cleaned at least twice a day and when and if she has flareups the appropriate 
treatment will have to be given.  She is being spayed very shortly and is going 
to be up for adoption fairly soon.  I said I would take her probably because 
she reminded me a lot of BooBoo.  She's all white and from the picture looks 
like she may have persian in her.  She has that same flat little face that Boo 
did.  Would I be getting myself into something like I just went through with 
Boo or is there more hope for these animals. This kitty has tested negative for 
feline leukemia.  I haven't even told my husband yet.  I just blurted out that 
I would take her.  I don't even know if I'll be chosen anyway.  

  Lynne

Re: Herpes virus

2008-03-08 Thread laurieskatz
Lynne, there is a great herpes yahoo group that I belong to. You might look 
into it. My vet thinks 2 of my cats may have this virus. Stress causes it to 
flare. It can cause eye (and mouth?) problems. I give L-lysine twice a day 
during a flare up. I have never had to do more than that with mine whose 
symtoms are minor. Winston occasionally (about once a year) gets an unexplained 
high fever and quits eating. My vet thinks it's related to the herpes. He 
recovers with anti-biotics. I don't think herpes is a big deal in most cats.

I do think it can be spread, though if my 2 have it the other 5 didn't get it. 
Also, my vet didn't warn me about contagion when he told me he thought Lucy may 
have herpes (cat number 5) or when he told me he thought Winston had it (cat 
number 7). Mine have not been tested for it so can't say for certain that they 
have this. Lucy's eyes run with clear tears when she is stressed and Winston 
winks his eyes and they get red rimmed when he is stressed. 

You might ask the shelter/vet what they will do to reduce her stress during and 
after her spay. Getting her out of the shelter is a GREAT way to reduce her 
stress!

Congrats if you adopt her!
Laurie
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lynne 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 2:53 PM
  Subject: Herpes virus


  Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with the herpes 
virus in cats.  There is this young cat I saw a picture of who is in a rescue 
shelter at the moment . The poor little thing was a total wreck when this woman 
took her in and she is now in the process of getting her eyes cleaned up.  They 
look a whole lot better than they did before this woman got hold of her.  
Apparently the vet who is taking care of the cat said her eyes would have to be 
cleaned at least twice a day and when and if she has flareups the appropriate 
treatment will have to be given.  She is being spayed very shortly and is going 
to be up for adoption fairly soon.  I said I would take her probably because 
she reminded me a lot of BooBoo.  She's all white and from the picture looks 
like she may have persian in her.  She has that same flat little face that Boo 
did.  Would I be getting myself into something like I just went through with 
Boo or is there more hope for these animals. This kitty has tested negative for 
feline leukemia.  I haven't even told my husband yet.  I just blurted out that 
I would take her.  I don't even know if I'll be chosen anyway.  

  Lynne

Re: Herpes virus

2008-03-08 Thread Lynne
Thanks for that encouraging news Pat.  If it's just a matter of treating her 
with eye drops every now and then that would not concern me at all.  This cat 
is an adorable all white cat and looks fairly young from her picture.  If I'm 
so lucky to get the call I will definitely take her.
Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: Pat Kachur 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 4:34 PM
  Subject: Re: Herpes virus


  Lynne - I have direct experience with a cat with herpes eye problems.  It was 
a long time ago but I adopted a lovely white young cat (not kitten) and shortly 
thereafter her eyes looked bad.  After going to regular vet, I was referred to 
a kitty ophthamologist who told me Katie would have to have two types of eye 
drops 3x per day for 8 weeks.  She also said that flare-ups were less likely as 
the cat got older.  After those 8 weeks (which were not fun), Katie's eyes were 
fine.  She never had another flare-up and lived to be 16 years old.  My vote is 
go for it.

  Pat
- Original Message - 
From: Lynne 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 3:53 PM
Subject: Herpes virus


Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with the 
herpes virus in cats.  There is this young cat I saw a picture of who is in a 
rescue shelter at the moment . The poor little thing was a total wreck when 
this woman took her in and she is now in the process of getting her eyes 
cleaned up.  They look a whole lot better than they did before this woman got 
hold of her.  Apparently the vet who is taking care of the cat said her eyes 
would have to be cleaned at least twice a day and when and if she has flareups 
the appropriate treatment will have to be given.  She is being spayed very 
shortly and is going to be up for adoption fairly soon.  I said I would take 
her probably because she reminded me a lot of BooBoo.  She's all white and from 
the picture looks like she may have persian in her.  She has that same flat 
little face that Boo did.  Would I be getting myself into something like I just 
went through with Boo or is there more hope for these animals. This kitty has 
tested negative for feline leukemia.  I haven't even told my husband yet.  I 
just blurted out that I would take her.  I don't even know if I'll be chosen 
anyway.  

Lynne


Re: Herpes virus

2008-03-08 Thread Lynne
Laurie, I think she's being treated very well by this foster woman.  She has 
cared for her day and night since she was taken from this so called shelter.  
There was a before and after picture of Snowball and her eyes were swollen 
completely shut.  Now her eyes are open.  The woman said they don't let the 
females go until the staples or sutures are out so I think she will be well 
cared flooked after following her spaying.  This lady did say she wanted 
Snowball to go to a family where she would have no stress and preferably no 
kids.  I don't know why no kids but the only kid I have is grown up and married 
so I think that makes us qualified.  I can only wait and see now. AND hope my 
husband is agreable if she calls us.  

Lynne
  - Original Message - 
  From: laurieskatz 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 4:59 PM
  Subject: Re: Herpes virus


  Lynne, there is a great herpes yahoo group that I belong to. You might look 
into it. My vet thinks 2 of my cats may have this virus. Stress causes it to 
flare. It can cause eye (and mouth?) problems. I give L-lysine twice a day 
during a flare up. I have never had to do more than that with mine whose 
symtoms are minor. Winston occasionally (about once a year) gets an unexplained 
high fever and quits eating. My vet thinks it's related to the herpes. He 
recovers with anti-biotics. I don't think herpes is a big deal in most cats.

  I do think it can be spread, though if my 2 have it the other 5 didn't get 
it. Also, my vet didn't warn me about contagion when he told me he thought Lucy 
may have herpes (cat number 5) or when he told me he thought Winston had it 
(cat number 7). Mine have not been tested for it so can't say for certain that 
they have this. Lucy's eyes run with clear tears when she is stressed and 
Winston winks his eyes and they get red rimmed when he is stressed. 

  You might ask the shelter/vet what they will do to reduce her stress during 
and after her spay. Getting her out of the shelter is a GREAT way to reduce her 
stress!

  Congrats if you adopt her!
  Laurie
- Original Message - 
From: Lynne 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 2:53 PM
Subject: Herpes virus


Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with the 
herpes virus in cats.  There is this young cat I saw a picture of who is in a 
rescue shelter at the moment . The poor little thing was a total wreck when 
this woman took her in and she is now in the process of getting her eyes 
cleaned up.  They look a whole lot better than they did before this woman got 
hold of her.  Apparently the vet who is taking care of the cat said her eyes 
would have to be cleaned at least twice a day and when and if she has flareups 
the appropriate treatment will have to be given.  She is being spayed very 
shortly and is going to be up for adoption fairly soon.  I said I would take 
her probably because she reminded me a lot of BooBoo.  She's all white and from 
the picture looks like she may have persian in her.  She has that same flat 
little face that Boo did.  Would I be getting myself into something like I just 
went through with Boo or is there more hope for these animals. This kitty has 
tested negative for feline leukemia.  I haven't even told my husband yet.  I 
just blurted out that I would take her.  I don't even know if I'll be chosen 
anyway.  

Lynne


Re: Herpes virus

2008-03-08 Thread Gloria Lane
I just assume if cats have been in a shelter or rescue, that they've  
been exposed to Herpes, and of course have had quite a few.  I use  
Lysine orally - I start out with 500 mg(powder mixed with small amt of  
water) via syringe twice a day.  And of course clean the eyes.  If  
they have Herpes, it starts showing improvement within a few days, in  
my experience.  At some point I cut back to 250 MG twice daily, and  
eventually stop.  Lysine is what's used on humans who have Herpes  
mouth sores (but think that's a different strain of Herpes).


I know some folks in the past, on this list, have used interferon  
alpha.  Some have put it directly in the eyes, although I've never  
used it that way.


My understanding is that once the stress is reduced and they start  
getting healthy, they seem to  do fine.  It's not nearly what FELV  
is.  I'd certainly encourage you to go for it.


Gloria


On Mar 8, 2008, at 2:53 PM, Lynne wrote:

Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with  
the herpes virus in cats.  There is this young cat I saw a picture  
of who is in a rescue shelter at the moment . The poor little thing  
was a total wreck when this woman took her in and she is now in the  
process of getting her eyes cleaned up.  They look a whole lot  
better than they did before this woman got hold of her.  Apparently  
the vet who is taking care of the cat said her eyes would have to be  
cleaned at least twice a day and when and if she has flareups the  
appropriate treatment will have to be given.  She is being spayed  
very shortly and is going to be up for adoption fairly soon.  I said  
I would take her probably because she reminded me a lot of BooBoo.   
She's all white and from the picture looks like she may have persian  
in her.  She has that same flat little face that Boo did.  Would I  
be getting myself into something like I just went through with Boo  
or is there more hope for these animals. This kitty has tested  
negative for feline leukemia.  I haven't even told my husband yet.   
I just blurted out that I would take her.  I don't even know if I'll  
be chosen anyway.


Lynne




Re: Herpes virus

2008-03-08 Thread wendy
Hi Lynne,

One of the things that helped me get through grieving for Cricket was adopting 
Smookie, who also has herpes.  Smookie is FeLV negative.  Herpes in cats is 
just like herpes in humans.  Just an aggravating virus that can flare up.  
However, I am pretty sure that Smookie lost her eye because she developed an 
eye ulcer, due to herpes, that was left untreated.  But eye issues caused by 
herpes are treatable and since we adopted Smookie two years ago, and treated 
her one eye, we've never had any issues since.  You have to follow your heart.  
Only you can know whether taking this furbaby in is right for you.

:)
Wendy

 
Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the 
world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~



- Original Message 
From: Lynne [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, March 8, 2008 2:53:54 PM
Subject: Herpes virus


Could any of you give me some first hand info and experience with the herpes 
virus in cats.  There is this young cat I saw a picture of who is in a rescue 
shelter at the moment . The poor little thing was a total wreck when this woman 
took her in and she is now in the process of getting her eyes cleaned up.  They 
look a whole lot better than they did before this woman got hold of her.  
Apparently the vet who is taking care of the cat said her eyes would have to be 
cleaned at least twice a day and when and if she has flareups the appropriate 
treatment will have to be given.  She is being spayed very shortly and is going 
to be up for adoption fairly soon.  I said I would take her probably because 
she reminded me a lot of BooBoo.  She's all white and from the picture looks 
like she may have persian in her.  She has that same flat little face that Boo 
did.  Would I be getting myself into something like I just went through with 
Boo or is there more hope for
 these animals. This kitty has tested negative for feline leukemia.  I haven't 
even told my husband yet.  I just blurted out that I would take her.  I don't 
even know if I'll be chosen anyway.  
 
Lynne


  

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Re: Herpes virus in the eyes.

2005-10-04 Thread gblane

Hey Karen,

You're absolutely right - we have had people on the list who've used 
Interferon in the eyes. May have been Tally, who knows a lot about interferon.


But I'm forwarding an old email to the list,  related to this.  Keep in 
mind also, that interferon is mixed with saline, which is an eye-friendly 
substance.


Gloria


At 02:43 PM 10/3/2005, you wrote:
Hello list. I have been gone a long time. Since my baby c and nitro and 
phantom passed.


But you guys are the smartest people I know. And I need your help.
I have two kittens that have not been tested yet...they are katrina 
kittens. Whisper and willow
They had rhino, chlamydia. ringworm earmites and both had very bad 
infection in the eyes.
after weeks of treatment everything is healed but one eye. My vet has 
given up.
But if I remember from back in the day...didn't we used to put the 
interferon in the eyes?
Nitro...my felv siamese had it cured that way. but I am trying to think 
doesn't it have to be mixed a certain way Do most of you still buy it 
from island pharmacy?
any help you can give this tired rescue lady I would appreciate it. I just 
want to make sure that I explore every option before removing the eye

God Bless
Karen





Re: Herpes virus in the eyes.

2005-10-04 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



yes yes yes I knew itGloria you are wonderful ! Do you remember 
anything else? 

I dont remember any Tally.


Re: Herpes virus in the eyes.

2005-10-04 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



Gloria,
so I dont need to have it mixed a certain way?
Do you remember?


Re: Herpes virus in the eyes.

2005-10-04 Thread gblane
Wow, the message I was forwarding didn't get thru - I'll try again - 
Tally's web site, btw, is at 
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Pointe/9352/stomatitis.html - scroll 
down and look for interferon.


Tally was on this list for a long while, seems like I got on in 2001  - 
anyhow she has so much info.


Gloria


At 10:41 PM 10/4/2005, you wrote:

Gloria,
so I dont need to have it mixed a certain way?
Do you remember?





Re: Herpes virus in the eyes.

2005-10-04 Thread gblane

OK - let me try to get this thru again... Gloria

I did cut the last part of this message, inculding only the data below... 
Gloria



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OK - re interferon in the eye, I think there's a bit mention of it at 
http://www.holisticat.com/eyearch2.html, and other things worth reading about.


Also, there's mention in www.eyevet.com/herpes.html about 'topically 
applied interferon' to treat herpes:


Other strategies to assist in the treatment of herpetic keratitis 
reported in the last few years include topically applied interferon, oral 
administration of l - lysine and oral administration of cimetidine. 
Interferon is reported to stimulate the local immunity to viral 
infection. A 20 to 50 IU/ml solution in artificial tear is administered 
topically twice daily. Orally administered l - lysine has been reported 
to inhibit herpesvirus growth by competitive inhibition of the uptake of 
arginine which is required for viral multiplication. It is given to cats 
at a dosage of 125 mg twice daily. Cimetidine has been shown to generally 
stimulate cell mediated immunity. It is given at a dosage of 50 mg once 
daily. Anecdotal reports suggest that maintenance of cats on one or more 
of these medications during periods of quiescence, will result in a 
longer period of time before recrudescence of infection occurs, and that 
when recrudescence occurs, the infection in milder and of shorter duration.


Ohio State Univ. has this:

Acute viral respiratory infections are generally self-limiting after 5 
to 10 days in most cats. There is no treatment that will eliminate a 
viral infection. Treatment is mainly supportive and consists of a 
combination of the following that are most applicable to the patient's 
manifestations: antibiotics (e.g., amoxicillin) to control secondary 
bacterial complications, topical ophthalmic antibiotics, nasal 
decongestants, measures to support nutritional and fluid intake, rest, 
warmth, and cleaning discharges away from the face. For chlamydia, 
doxycycline is an effective antibiotic. For severe herpetic corneal 
ulcers, antiviral agents (e.g., idoxuridine, trifluridine, or vidarabine) 
can be applied topically in the eyes, but these are expensive.


Vetinfo.com has stuff on Herpes too 
(http://www.vetinfo.com/cherpes.html#Herpes) - they don't regularly 
recommend the anti-viral eye drops (but not interferon) because...


...We tend to hold off on these drops due to the cost, irritating 
properties and the need for frequent administration of the medications 
but they probably would help more if we used them earlier. Many of our 
clients won't continue the drops in their cats due to the cat's reaction 
to the drops, though. So that discourages us from recommending them quickly. 


Gloria


...





Herpes virus in the eyes.

2005-10-03 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



Hello list. I have been gone a long time. Since my baby c and nitro and 
phantom passed.

But you guys are the smartest people I know. And I need your help.
I have two kittens that have not been tested yet...they are katrina 
kittens. Whisper and willow
They had rhino, chlamydia. ringworm earmites and both had very bad 
infection in the eyes.
after weeks of treatment everything is healed but one eye. My vet has given 
up.
But if I remember from back in the day...didn't we used to put the 
interferon in the eyes?
Nitro...my felv siamese had it cured that way. but I am trying to think 
doesn't it have to be mixed a certain way Do most of you still buy it from 
island pharmacy?
any help you can give this tired rescue lady I would appreciate it. I just 
want to make sure that I explore every option before removing the eye
God Bless
Karen


Re: Herpes virus in the eyes.

2005-10-03 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



I think it was pamor Jamie
this list knows more than most vets. I asked my vet and he looked at me 
with very strange lookshe is in shock they are aliveZithromax is my new 
best friend.


Re: Herpes virus in the eyes.

2005-10-03 Thread PEC2851



Dr. Glickstein, out of Philly, comes to Lancaster area and does pro bono 
for our shelter.
He is a vet. opth.
For our Felv+ and FIV+ guys who had a HORRIBLE time w/ the Herpes virus in 
the eyes, he Rx'd Zithromax and used that in conjunction w/ the 
intranasal/intraocular FVRCP.
I am trying to remember the exact protocol, it's been awhile.
I remember, initially administering intraocular drops, then cats went on 
"Z" SIDfor 28 days, then re-administered intraocular.
I had the treatment charts on my PC, unfortunately, that got a "virus" and 
I still have not recovered my files...
I just remembered it worked, and we used ONLY triple AB opth. drops W/OUT 
steroids BID.
Sorry I can't be more help.
Patti


Re: Herpes virus in the eyes.

2005-10-03 Thread FORGETMENOTPETS



NO patti that was a big help. At least I feel confident they are on the 
right antibiotics.
they get lysine in the food too. Terri if you remember jamies or Pam's 
email address I would appreciate it . I will dig through the archives. must be 
2000 or 2001.
I am running out of time she seems like she is getting in more pain.



Re: Herpes virus in the eyes.

2005-10-03 Thread PEC2851



Yes, this was "Pre" Lysine days
Now, Lysine is a regular part of the regiment, especially w/ the cats that 
seem to have "chronic" problems.
Good Luck w/ your babies.
Patti


Re: Herpes virus in the eyes.

2005-10-03 Thread BONNIE J KALMBACH

My Siamese kitty mitou and her daughter Sylvie have chronic mild herpes 
infections in their eyes. I give them Lysine and a triple opthalmic 
anti-biotic. It clears up right away. 

Bonnie

- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Monday, October 3, 2005 3:38 pm
Subject: Re: Herpes virus in the eyes.

 Yes, this was Pre Lysine days
 Now, Lysine is a regular part of the regiment, especially w/ the 
 cats that  
 seem to have chronic problems.
 Good Luck w/ your babies.
 Patti
 



Re: Herpes virus in the eyes.

2005-10-03 Thread catatonya
If it's herpes they have to have viroptic. I think I remember someone putting interferon drops in the nose, but not the eyes? Either way, I don't think it will help without the viroptic

t[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Hello list. I have been gone a long time. Since my baby c and nitro and phantom passed.

But you guys are the smartest people I know. And I need your help.
I have two kittens that have not been tested yet...they are katrina kittens. Whisper and willow
They had rhino, chlamydia. ringworm earmites and both had very bad infection in the eyes.
after weeks of treatment everything is healed but one eye. My vet has given up.
But if I remember from back in the day...didn't we used to put the interferon in the eyes?
Nitro...my felv siamese had it cured that way. but I am trying to think doesn't it have to be mixed a certain way Do most of you still buy it from island pharmacy?
any help you can give this tired rescue lady I would appreciate it. I just want to make sure that I explore every option before removing the eye
God Bless
Karen