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same here Sharyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:I received your test and the one response. The 1st messages I have received in a couple of days. Sharyl --- On Sun, 7/13/08, Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Sherry DeHaan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: test To: Felvtalk felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Sunday, July 13, 2008, 5:44 PM i have gotten back the last 2 messages i sent telling me they could not be delivered. :( ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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well, I got this message. I have noticed that allot of the emails go directly to the junk box. My computer must think they are suspicious. alice - Original Message - From: Sherry DeHaanmailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalkmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, July 13, 2008 4:44 PM Subject: test i have gotten back the last 2 messages i sent telling me they could not be delivered. :( ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Sherry, I am new to your site, but you came through just fine!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Sun, 13 Jul 2008 14:44:09 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: testTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org i have gotten back the last 2 messages i sent telling me they could not be delivered. :( _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I just joined...and I got ya, too!Debbie (COL)You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:00:14 -0700From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Re: testTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I got ya Kelley--- On Tue, 6/17/08, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: testTo: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgDate: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 9:35 PM Is the list working? I miss all the kind and helpful people that populate it-- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.http://www.rescuties.orgVist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life!http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20Check out our Memsaic!http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*Please help with some of our kitties medical needs!http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expensesRather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org _ Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger http://imagine-msn.com/messenger/launch80/default.aspx?locale=en-ussource=wlmailtagline___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I'm still here too; just very sporadically. Trying to catch up today. Hope all of you are doing fantastic! :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Debbie Harrison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2008 7:56:42 AM Subject: RE: test I just joined...and I got ya, too! Debbie (COL) You gotta bloom where you're planted! Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:00:14 -0700 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: test To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I got ya Kelley --- On Tue, 6/17/08, Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: test To: felvtalk Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 9:35 PM Is the list working? I miss all the kind and helpful people that populate it -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org Connect to the next generation of MSN Messenger Get it now! ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I got ya Kelley --- On Tue, 6/17/08, Kelley Saveika lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; wrote: From: Kelley Saveika lt;[EMAIL PROTECTED]gt; Subject: test To: felvtalk lt;Felvtalk@felineleukemia.orggt; Date: Tuesday, June 17, 2008, 9:35 PM Is the list working?nbsp; I miss all the kind and helpful people that populate it -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help with some of our kitties medical needs! http://rescuties.chipin.com/kitties-medical-expenses Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I hit reply only on this on and it went to felvtalk... but other posts only go to the individual who posted--don't know why... Christiane Biagi 914-632-4672 Cell: 914-720-6888 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro Sent: Thursday, May 22, 2008 8:40 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Test Checking to see where the reply goes. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The reply came back to the list not to the respondee. In a message dated 5/22/2008 5:50:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Checking to see where the reply goes. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE _http://tazzys.org/_ (http://tazzys.org/index.html) _http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/_ (http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/) Terrie Mohr-Forker **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?NCID=aolfod000302) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The reply came back to the list not to the re spondee. In a message dated 5/22/2008 5:50:20 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Checking to see where the reply goes. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE _http://tazzys.org/_ (http://tazzys.org/index.html) _http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/_ (http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/) Terrie Mohr-Forker **Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch Cooking with Tyler Florence on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4?NCID=aolfod000302) ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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OK, I am just sending this using reply not reply all and it looks like it is going to the list. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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looks like it was fixed. thanks sally On 5/22/08, Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Checking to see where the reply goes. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: Test that wasn't
Sue, will keep our fingers, toes and paws crossed for Buzz next week. Sharyl Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took Buzz to the vet's and waited for about 20 minutes. The vet came out and told me she was overwhelmed with emergencies and would I reschedule. So the test is postponed until next Thursday. I would rather be rescheduled then be an emergency. One of the emergencies was a cat having a reaction to medication. I just hope he will be ok. This is the second time I've tried to post this. The first time it bounced back to me with a message that said Results: Ignoring non-text/plain MIME parts. I'm not sure what that means. The first post was not much different then this. Sue - Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
Re: Test that wasn't
i have to agree that i'd rather have a postponed test! good thoughts to the sick kitties... and sometimes, well, the internet is just out to get us. remember, the list told us all that we'd been unsubscribed earlier this week MC On Thu, Apr 24, 2008 at 8:35 PM, Sue Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I took Buzz to the vet's and waited for about 20 minutes. The vet came out and told me she was overwhelmed with emergencies and would I reschedule. So the test is postponed until next Thursday. I would rather be rescheduled then be an emergency. One of the emergencies was a cat having a reaction to medication. I just hope he will be ok. This is the second time I've tried to post this. The first time it bounced back to me with a message that said Results: Ignoring non-text/plain MIME parts. I'm not sure what that means. The first post was not much different then this. Sue -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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Me too, Tonya, both at home and at work. When I saw the one at home, I thought maybe it was because my inbox was nearly full -- but at work I usually have a maximum of 100 items. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya Sent: Monday, April 21, 2008 7:25 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: test i got a notice saying i was bounced off the list. i rejoined, or whatever.I don't know what would cause my account to bounce. t Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tonya, I never say a message about Bob's CRF, I did see a message asking me if I was around. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
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I sent a message to Belinda last week too. I just thought she was busy. I don't remember checking to see if it showed up. It was about Bob's crf. t Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Terrie, Got this but not the message from earlier, what was it?? Neither am Ias I sent a message to Belinda yesterday still hasn't shown up. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.comHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.comForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com
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Hi Tonya, I never say a message about Bob's CRF, I did see a message asking me if I was around. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com
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There is something wrong with this group. On Mon, Apr 21, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tonya, I never say a message about Bob's CRF, I did see a message asking me if I was around. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone.
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i got a notice saying i was bounced off the list. i rejoined, or whatever.I don't know what would cause my account to bounce. t Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tonya, I never say a message about Bob's CRF, I did see a message asking me if I was around. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com
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The exact same thing happened to me a few days ago. When I triedd to re-subscribe, it rejected that so I tried again at another addy which I have. We'll see what happens. Probably some kind of computer worm or virus or something. C. On Mon, 21 Apr 2008 17:24:35 -0700 (PDT), catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: i got a notice saying i was bounced off the list. i rejoined, or whatever.I don't know what would cause my account to bounce. t Belinda Sauro [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Tonya, I never say a message about Bob's CRF, I did see a message asking me if I was around. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com -- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- http://www.fastmail.fm - Does exactly what it says on the tin
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I didn't get anything about any of it..Just wondering if you all got the message that I posted about Angel Inky? Kerry Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.
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Maybe someone hacked the site. I did not use the link in the email to reactivate. I went directly to thw webpage. All seems well now. Sally -- Beth Gouldin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 940.395.5393 God Bless!!! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
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Sometimes the hosting companies get a lot of spam coming from them, for whatever reason. Like the company that felineleukemia.org resides on. If that possibly happens, they get on a black list, and other companies will bounce all the email. I dunno, but a possibility. It's happened to me in other settings. May be something else of course. Gloria On Apr 19, 2008, at 8:05 AM, Sally Davis wrote: Maybe someone hacked the site. I did not use the link in the email to reactivate. I went directly to thw webpage. All seems well now. Sally -- Beth Gouldin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 940.395.5393 God Bless!!! -- Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time. http://www.rescuties.org Vist the Rescuties store and save a kitty life! http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20 Check out our Memsaic! http://www.memsaic.com/app/launch.cfm?sid=08D2CAB2A6E9 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties* Please help Clarissa! http://rescuties.chipin.com/clarissasheart Rather than helping, it's easier to point fingers and say take them first as long as you leave me alone. -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
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Neither am Ias I sent a message to Belinda yesterday still hasn't shown up. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE _http://tazzys.org/_ (http://tazzys.org/index.html) _http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/_ (http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/) Terrie Mohr-Forker **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851)
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Hi Terrie, Got this but not the message from earlier, what was it?? Neither am Ias I sent a message to Belinda yesterday still hasn't shown up. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://www.bemikitties.com HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://www.hostdesign4u.com ForYouByUs.com [custom printing] http://www.foryoubyus.com
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I was dropped from the mailing list because my mail from FELVtalk to me was bouncingprobably a spam related thing... On Apr 18, 2008, at 4:14 PM, Sally Davis wrote: My Mail was bouncing. Sally -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
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I got it but I have been told mine was bouncing too. On Apr 18, 2008, at 4:14 PM, Sally Davis wrote: My Mail was bouncing. Sally -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
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On 18 Apr 2008 at 16:37, Marylyn wrote: I got it but I have been told mine was bouncing too. I'm the list administrator, and I received the same message earlier today. Not sure what the problem was. Let's hope that it's fixed now. Please let me know if anyone has any further problems with the list. Regards. James G. Wilson - [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.felineleukemia.org (FeLV Research Support) http://www.3partharmony.com (3PartHarmony Productions) http://www.myspace.com/wilsonjamesg (My Space Page) http://wx.3partharmony.com (Weather for Edwardsville, IL)
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I got this, so I am assuming everything is ok. Sally On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Mail was bouncing. Sally -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php?sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
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I do not think mine goes through On Apr 18, 2008, at 6:15 PM, Sally Davis wrote: I got this, so I am assuming everything is ok. Sally On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My Mail was bouncing. Sally -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php? sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3 -- Sally, Eric (not a cat),Junior(angel), Tiny(angel) Fluffy(soulmate angel), Speedy, Grey and White, Ittle Bitty, Little Black, Lily, Daisy, Pewter, Junior Junior (newest) I call him JJ , Silver, and Spike Please Visit my Message board for some pictures. You are welcome to sign up. http://www.k6az.com/ki4spk/index.php? sid=c57c00cf5804ef13853ed6e77a68eed3
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I got it toosays I'm bouncing! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE _http://tazzys.org/_ (http://tazzys.org/index.html) _http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/_ (http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/) Terrie Mohr-Forker **Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos. (http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851)
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maybe spring has sprung? (got the same message earlier today) On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 7:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got it toosays I'm bouncing! *TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE http://tazzys.org/ http://tazzys.org/index.html * http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/*** Terrie Mohr-Forker * -- Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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I also got the bounced message - said that it would de-activate my account if I didn't sign in, etc. On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 6:07 PM, MaryChristine [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: maybe spring has sprung? (got the same message earlier today) On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 7:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I got it toosays I'm bouncing! *TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS SIAMESE COLLIE RESCUE http://tazzys.org/ http://tazzys.org/index.html * http://www.hurricanepetsrescue.org/*** Terrie Mohr-Forker * -- Need a new ride? Check out the largest site for U.S. used car listings at AOL Autos http://autos.aol.com/used?NCID=aolcmp0030002851. -- Spay Neuter Your Neighbors! Maybe That'll Make The Difference MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892 -- Beth Gouldin [EMAIL PROTECTED] 940.395.5393 God Bless!!!
Re: test results your interpretation/your advice
It sounds like Gunnar is negative to me. If you want to be sure you could test one more time. But remember that some cats test positive and are just 'carriers' and never get sick themselves.. Congratulations! tonya Susan Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My baby boy, Gunnar, will celebrate his first anniversary with his two sisters, Kelly (17) and Meagan (8) and his better than a Dad Ricky on August 2. Can you help me interpret his initial test results from one year ago - we have decided that through our faith and prayers that he has thrown the virus (or never had it) and will NOT retest him (it doesn't matter, we love him). But...his initial test results were: Test FeLV Elisa Results Positive Reference Range Negative Units Antigen Test FIV Elisa Results Negative Reference Range Negative Units Elisa Can someone, in plain English, explain these FELV results, please. Your assistance in this is much appreciated. For the year that I have been a part of this list and reading your advice and stories, I TRUST YOU MORE THAN ANY VET THAT I COULD SPEAK WITH. You are brave people who sometimes take the worse and make it better, who through the worse adversity stand tall and proud and roll with the punches, who adopt kits who wouldn't normally be saved or given a home - I SAY MY PRAYERS AND GIVE MY THANKS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. In my hours of need, each of you and your words were there for me, and my family, giving us faith, giving us strength and giving us the best advice on Earth. I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU (especially Catatonya) FOR YOUR HOPE AND GUIDANCE. MAY GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. As for me and family family of Ricky, me (Sissy), Kelly (17), Meagan (8) and Gunnar (2), thank you all from the bottom of each of our hearts. When it was needed, you truly saved the day. Gunnar is now part of the family because we were given the hope that he could safely live with two negative Sisters. I don't know what we would do without him - I also thank God that He made it impossible to adopt Gunnar out - I now get to keep him for myself. Thanks for your help. Thank you for EVERYTHING. You guys are God's gift! Take care and keep the faith.
Re: test results your interpretation/your advice
Susan, Thank you for your sweet words. I feel strongly about this group too. I don't think I can answer your question very well, other than that those tests can be wrong. Either he was positive, and threw the virus. Or he wasn't positive at all and the first test was wrong. Or he is positive and the second test was wrong. No matter what, I feel as you do. It doesn't matter; you'll love him just the same. The only thing you have to keep in mind is if he IS positive, you might want to supplement him with immune boosters. I think there's a good chance he's not though. So happy things are going well for your brood! God bless, :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:36:59 PM Subject: test results your interpretation/your advice My baby boy, Gunnar, will celebrate his first anniversary with his two sisters, Kelly (17) and Meagan (8) and his better than a Dad Ricky on August 2. Can you help me interpret his initial test results from one year ago - we have decided that through our faith and prayers that he has thrown the virus (or never had it) and will NOT retest him (it doesn't matter, we love him). But...his initial test results were: Test FeLV Elisa Results Positive Reference Range Negative Units Antigen Test FIV Elisa Results Negative Reference Range Negative Units Elisa Can someone, in plain English, explain these FELV results, please. Your assistance in this is much appreciated. For the year that I have been a part of this list and reading your advice and stories, I TRUST YOU MORE THAN ANY VET THAT I COULD SPEAK WITH. You are brave people who sometimes take the worse and make it better, who through the worse adversity stand tall and proud and roll with the punches, who adopt kits who wouldn't normally be saved or given a home - I SAY MY PRAYERS AND GIVE MY THANKS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. In my hours of need, each of you and your words were there for me, and my family, giving us faith, giving us strength and giving us the best advice on Earth. I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU (especially Catatonya) FOR YOUR HOPE AND GUIDANCE. MAY GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. As for me and family family of Ricky, me (Sissy), Kelly (17), Meagan (8) and Gunnar (2), thank you all from the bottom of each of our hearts. When it was needed, you truly saved the day. Gunnar is now part of the family because we were given the hope that he could safely live with two negative Sisters. I don't know what we would do without him - I also thank God that He made it impossible to adopt Gunnar out - I now get to keep him for myself. Thanks for your help. Thank you for EVERYTHING. You guys are God's gift! Take care and keep the faith. Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? Ha! Play Monopoly Here and Now (it's updated for today's economy) at Yahoo! Games. http://get.games.yahoo.com/proddesc?gamekey=monopolyherenow
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Susan, I agree w/ Wendy. I would supplement his diet regardless w/ some immune boosters like the ones we have been discussing on list, as well as the other 2 kitties. It can't hurt to take precautions. Susan J. DuBose ^..^ www.PetGirlsPetsitting.com www.Tx.SiameseRescue.org www.shadowcats.net As Cleopatra lay in state, Faithful Bast at her side did wait, Purring welcomes of soft applause, Ever guarding with sharpened claws. Trajan Tennent - Original Message - From: wendy To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 8:57 PM Subject: Re: test results your interpretation/your advice Susan, Thank you for your sweet words. I feel strongly about this group too. I don't think I can answer your question very well, other than that those tests can be wrong. Either he was positive, and threw the virus. Or he wasn't positive at all and the first test was wrong. Or he is positive and the second test was wrong. No matter what, I feel as you do. It doesn't matter; you'll love him just the same. The only thing you have to keep in mind is if he IS positive, you might want to supplement him with immune boosters. I think there's a good chance he's not though. So happy things are going well for your brood! God bless, :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~
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it's hard to know for sure what really happened as we cannot re-test the blood from a year ago obviously.. but I would not be surprised at al he was exposed to the virus a year ago, and threw the virus off - again, it's not that uncommon for an older kitty -- either way, it's a great news!! congratulations!! - Original Message - From: wendymailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgmailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:57 PM Subject: Re: test results your interpretation/your advice Susan, Thank you for your sweet words. I feel strongly about this group too. I don't think I can answer your question very well, other than that those tests can be wrong. Either he was positive, and threw the virus. Or he wasn't positive at all and the first test was wrong. Or he is positive and the second test was wrong. No matter what, I feel as you do. It doesn't matter; you'll love him just the same. The only thing you have to keep in mind is if he IS positive, you might want to supplement him with immune boosters. I think there's a good chance he's not though. So happy things are going well for your brood! God bless, :) Wendy Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful committed citizens can change the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade ~~~ - Original Message From: Susan Franklin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2007 7:36:59 PM Subject: test results your interpretation/your advice My baby boy, Gunnar, will celebrate his first anniversary with his two sisters, Kelly (17) and Meagan (8) and his better than a Dad Ricky on August 2. Can you help me interpret his initial test results from one year ago - we have decided that through our faith and prayers that he has thrown the virus (or never had it) and will NOT retest him (it doesn't matter, we love him). But...his initial test results were: Test FeLV Elisa Results Positive Reference Range Negative Units Antigen Test FIV Elisa Results Negative Reference Range Negative Units Elisa Can someone, in plain English, explain these FELV results, please. Your assistance in this is much appreciated. For the year that I have been a part of this list and reading your advice and stories, I TRUST YOU MORE THAN ANY VET THAT I COULD SPEAK WITH. You are brave people who sometimes take the worse and make it better, who through the worse adversity stand tall and proud and roll with the punches, who adopt kits who wouldn't normally be saved or given a home - I SAY MY PRAYERS AND GIVE MY THANKS TO EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. In my hours of need, each of you and your words were there for me, and my family, giving us faith, giving us strength and giving us the best advice on Earth. I WANT TO THANK EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU (especially Catatonya) FOR YOUR HOPE AND GUIDANCE. MAY GOD BLESS EACH AND EVERY ONE OF YOU. As for me and family family of Ricky, me (Sissy), Kelly (17), Meagan (8) and Gunnar (2), thank you all from the bottom of each of our hearts. When it was needed, you truly saved the day. Gunnar is now part of the family because we were given the hope that he could safely live with two negative Sisters. I don't know what we would do without him - I also thank God that He made it impossible to adopt Gunnar out - I now get to keep him for myself. Thanks for your help. Thank you for EVERYTHING. You guys are God's gift! Take care and keep the faith. -- Ready for the edge of your seat? Check out tonight's top pickshttp://us.rd.yahoo.com/evt=48220/*http://tv.yahoo.com/ on Yahoo! TV.
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I guess the thing is that if she's feeding them but not having them S/N, in her well-meaning way she's adding to the problem. Well-fed cats multiply. Diane R. From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Sally Davis Sent: Friday, January 12, 2007 9:20 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Fwd: test/junior/ferals Sorry about the test email. I sent one last night from my new address and I don't see that it posted. I am getting emails. Just in case my previous email does not show up. Junior got his meds while I was away at the vet's office. I hated to subject him to the ride 2 days in a row, and Eric almost fell with the cat in his carrier. Eric would not have been able to get up if he had fallen. I never thought about thsi until I saw the posting in the archives about the cats being left at the horse boarding place. Maybe someone can help my sister who is disabled and lives in Manteca, CA. Apparently in these rural bedroom type communities the is no help for feral kitties. At least not that she or I have been able to come up with. SHe is aslo not in a position to trap them, There are no clincis or shelter that we can find who do not euthanize cats. SHe had a colony, not sure how big living under a shed in her back yard. SHe does feed them, bit that is all she can do for them due to her health. Anyone out there in CA who might have ideas. Too many cats too few people who can help. Thanks Sally This electronic mail transmission and any attachments are confidential and may be privileged. They should be read or retained only by the intended recipient. If you have received this transmission in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the transmission from your system. In addition, in order to comply with Treasury Circular 230, we are required to inform you that unless we have specifically stated to the contrary in writing, any advice we provide in this email or any attachment concerning federal tax issues or submissions is not intended or written to be used, and cannot be used, to avoid federal tax penalties.
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She needs to contact alley cat allies: http://alleycat.org Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight
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HI Phaewryn, I don't think my sister has email. I did not see a phone number on their website. Am I missing it? Sally On 1/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: She needs to contact alley cat allies: http://alleycat.org Phaewryn http://ucat.us The easy way out has a bad reputation. Why would anyone take the hard way out? The door? No thanks, that would be the easy way out. I'm jumping out the window. Quote by: Les U. Knight
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They do have a very big website. The contact info is on this page, and I pasted it in below as well. http://alleycat.org/contact.html Alley Cat Allies 7920 Norfolk Avenue Suite 600 Bethesda, MD 20814-2525 Phone: 240-482-1980 Fax: 240-482-1990 ACA office hours are between 9:00 AM and 6:00 PM Eastern Standard Time. When leaving a message on our voicemail be sure to include your name, street address, and your daytime and evening phone numbers. To contact us via e-mail please fill out our E-mail Form. Here you will have an opportunity to provide us all the relevant information we need to help you quickly and accurately. Thank you. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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Wow I must have missed the phone number, I think I even went to the contact page, maybe not. I live about three hours from where Alley Cat allies is headquartered. Of course my sister lives about 2500 miles from there. Again thanks Sally On 1/12/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: They do have a very big website. The contact info is on this page, and I pasted it in below as well. http://alleycat.org/contact.html Alley Cat Allies 7920 Norfolk Avenue Suite 600 Bethesda, MD 20814-2525 Phone*:* 240-482-1980 Fax: 240-482-1990 ACA office hours are between 9:00 AM and 6:00 PM Eastern Standard Time. When leaving a message on our voicemail be sure to include your name, street address, and your daytime and evening phone numbers. To contact us via e-mail please fill out our E-mail Formhttp://alleycat.org/response.html. Here you will have an opportunity to provide us all the relevant information we need to help you quickly and accurately. Thank you. Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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They have a national network all across the USA, so they will be able to help her no matter of her location. My family all lives about 2000 miles away. I like it that way, LOL! My mom recently sent me a refrigerator magnet with a big oak tree on it with lots of acorns, it says My family tree is full of nuts LOL! Boy, she got that right! Phaewryn http://ucat.us Adopt a New England FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/FIVadopt.html Special Needs Cat Links (and feline info library): http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html
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I received it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 8:26 PM Subject: Test I haven't been receiving any mail from the list -- just testing to see if this goes through. elizabeth Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
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Thanks! My AOL address was giving me problems so I signed up with a new email adddress. Things are starting to come through now. elizabeth On 12/20/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I received it. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Tue, 19 Dec 2006 8:26 PM Subject: Test I haven't been receiving any mail from the list -- just testing to see if this goes through. elizabeth -- *Check out the new AOL*http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/1615326657x4311227241x4298082137/aol?redir=http%3A%2F%2Fwww%2Eaol%2Ecom%2Fnewaol. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.
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Got through.
Re: test results
I think vets 'have' to say there is a risk involved to cover themselves against lawsuits. Just like if you get put to sleep to have a tooth removal you have to sign that youare aware you could die but how many people really die from that Well since a few and far between have... you have to sign the form. I think that's what it is more than a vet seriously thinking the disease will be transmitted to a negative cat.tTenHouseCats [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:belinda, have you ever seen any research about a VACCINATED negative ever turning positive from living with a positive? i have not--and the experiences of folks on this list as well as friends with positives and vaccinated negatives seems to bear this out i've come to think that, when they say the vaccine is only 85% effective, they're not talking about the whole cat population, but only the highly compromised parts--the very young and very old who are most at risk to start with. otherwise, how could 70% of unvaccinated, adult cats manage to throw the virus off consistently? friend is a BIG black cat at the sanctuary, who lived for years in the FeLV compound. he'd been a feral, and obviously tested positive before he came into our care. four years or so ago, he became very ill, to the daily fluids and force-feeding level. he pulled through that, and tho he's had a couple of bouts of other major uris and things, he's been very healthy for the last year and a half or so. for some reason, about a year ago, he was retested--something that isn't regularly done with the FeLVs. guess what--this little brat, who's been quite sickly at least 3 times that i know of, and who has been living exclusively with FeLVs, is NEGATIVE on the ifa he's now a huge, spoiled-rotten housecat, and his story really makes me wonder about how contagious this virus is, whether or not initial exposure immunizes them against subsequent--and in his case, constant--exposure, and such-like issues On 7/12/06, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:As you said no test is 100% accurate, the IFA is the better test. The hard part, is your almost certainly not going to know when a cat was exposed so the accuracy of the test is always going to be questionable. A cat that tests positive may still be in the stage of trying to fight the virus off and may very well test negative at a later date. The way I look at it is that a healthy, vaccinated negative cat is very unlikely to get the virus from a positive, and if they did their own healthy immune system would most likely successfully fight it off. Not to say it couldn't happen, but I personally believe the chances are almost zero. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com-- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
Re: test results
As you said no test is 100% accurate, the IFA is the better test. The hard part, is your almost certainly not going to know when a cat was exposed so the accuracy of the test is always going to be questionable. A cat that tests positive may still be in the stage of trying to fight the virus off and may very well test negative at a later date. The way I look at it is that a healthy, vaccinated negative cat is very unlikely to get the virus from a positive, and if they did their own healthy immune system would most likely successfully fight it off. Not to say it couldn't happen, but I personally believe the chances are almost zero. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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belinda, have you ever seen any research about a VACCINATED negative ever turning positive from living with a positive? i have not--and the experiences of folks on this list as well as friends with positives and vaccinated negatives seems to bear this out i've come to think that, when they say the vaccine is only 85% effective, they're not talking about the whole cat population, but only the highly compromised parts--the very young and very old who are most at risk to start with. otherwise, how could 70% of unvaccinated, adult cats manage to throw the virus off consistently? friend is a BIG black cat at the sanctuary, who lived for years in the FeLV compound. he'd been a feral, and obviously tested positive before he came into our care. four years or so ago, he became very ill, to the daily fluids and force-feeding level. he pulled through that, and tho he's had a couple of bouts of other major uris and things, he's been very healthy for the last year and a half or so. for some reason, about a year ago, he was retested--something that isn't regularly done with the FeLVs. guess what--this little brat, who's been quite sickly at least 3 times that i know of, and who has been living exclusively with FeLVs, is NEGATIVE on the ifa he's now a huge, spoiled-rotten housecat, and his story really makes me wonder about how contagious this virus is, whether or not initial exposure immunizes them against subsequent--and in his case, constant--exposure, and such-like issues On 7/12/06, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you said no test is 100% accurate, the IFA is the better test. The hard part, is your almost certainly not going to know when a cat was exposed so the accuracy of the test is always going to be questionable. A cat that tests positive may still be in the stage of trying to fight the virus off and may very well test negative at a later date. The way I look at it is that a healthy, vaccinated negative cat is very unlikely to get the virus from a positive, and if they did their own healthy immune system would most likely successfully fight it off. Not to say it couldn't happen, but I personally believe the chances are almost zero. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com-- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCatsMSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED]ICQ: 289856892
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MC, The way I look at it is that a healthy, vaccinated negative cat is very unlikely to get the virus from a positive, and if they did their own healthy immune system would most likely successfully fight it off. Not to say it couldn't happen, but I personally believe the chances are almost zero. I personally have never seen it but I know there has been one or two people on the list in the past that were sure this is what happened to them. That's why I said what I did. I personally think that it's more likely the cat was positive all along but gave a false negative when originally tested and then when sick and retested the cat came up positive then. Of course their vet would tell them the cat just got it and if they have another known positive, guess who gets blamed. Though the possibility exists, I personally am comfortable in mixing my cats because from my own experience and so many others I know of, I don't think it's very likely. -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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You know, Ive often wondered whether its worth retesting a pos. Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of TenHouseCats Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:47 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: test results belinda, have you ever seen any research about a VACCINATED negative ever turning positive from living with a positive? i have not--and the experiences of folks on this list as well as friends with positives and vaccinated negatives seems to bear this out i've come to think that, when they say the vaccine is only 85% effective, they're not talking about the whole cat population, but only the highly compromised parts--the very young and very old who are most at risk to start with. otherwise, how could 70% of unvaccinated, adult cats manage to throw the virus off consistently? friend is a BIG black cat at the sanctuary, who lived for years in the FeLV compound. he'd been a feral, and obviously tested positive before he came into our care. four years or so ago, he became very ill, to the daily fluids and force-feeding level. he pulled through that, and tho he's had a couple of bouts of other major uris and things, he's been very healthy for the last year and a half or so. for some reason, about a year ago, he was retested--something that isn't regularly done with the FeLVs. guess what--this little brat, who's been quite sickly at least 3 times that i know of, and who has been living exclusively with FeLVs, is NEGATIVE on the ifa he's now a huge, spoiled-rotten housecat, and his story really makes me wonder about how contagious this virus is, whether or not initial exposure immunizes them against subsequent--and in his case, constant--exposure, and such-like issues On 7/12/06, Belinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As you said no test is 100% accurate, the IFA is the better test. The hard part, is your almost certainly not going to know when a cat was exposed so the accuracy of the test is always going to be questionable. A cat that tests positive may still be in the stage of trying to fight the virus off and may very well test negative at a later date. The way I look at it is that a healthy, vaccinated negative cat is very unlikely to get the virus from a positive, and if they did their own healthy immune system would most likely successfully fight it off. Not to say it couldn't happen, but I personally believe the chances are almost zero. -- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]http://bmk.bemikitties.com -- MaryChristine AIM / YAHOO: TenHouseCats MSN: [EMAIL PROTECTED] ICQ: 289856892
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I have 5 cats: the first came in as a 5 month old; the next three came in as very young kittens found all alone outside. All were tested at their first vet visit. Four years later one of the ones that came in as a 2 month old tested positive. She'd never been outside in four years. Two vets told me that you can get a false neg on the tests depending at what stage its in. Also, you can get a pos that then becomes neg if cat throws off the virus. Bottom line, I became convinced that it's a gamble either way. Now all the cats all lived together, sharing bowls, litter boxes, grooming, etc. The other 3 all tested negative! So chances of spread--not as high as everybody says it is. By the way, my 5th cat came in as an adult stray who I had been feeding daily for two years. He'd never been sick in all that time and when I got him tested--he was pos. I just think that there are a whole more cats who do test pos for FELV--we just don't know about it Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, July 11, 2006 11:55 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: test results As a lifelong cat lover and owner of seven, I was just wondering how we can ever know when we are truly adopting a negative kitten. Years ago I wouldn't think twice about finding a homeless cat, falling in love with it, and bringing it straight home with me. Now, after having experience with finding positive kittens(strays from the neighborhood), i've found myself becoming overly afraid of this disease and accidentally bringing it to my negatives. I'm not trying to adopt a cat at this time, but for future reference, I was wondering if the test that they send out to the lab(always forget the name of it) is a pretty accurate indicator. I was browing a petsmart adoption event and saw young cats and was wondering if they had the lab test done, at what age can it ever be considered accurate. I've read enough on this web site to know that it seems no test is really 100%, but was wondering if the sent to the lab test was negative on a young cat if it would then be about as safe as it gets. I know this sounds silly, but as much as I love cats, I know in the future I will find a kitty needing a home and I was just looking for reassurance in a more comprehensive lab test. Thanks for listening.
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- Original Message - From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:43 am Subject: Re: Test results and an OT question To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org OMG Kelley, that's fabulous news about the neg results!! It must be what I said about false positive results, there's no other way to explain it. They were pretty shocked she tested neg after testing pos 3 days ago. I was very happy until I heard about the heart murmur. As far as the heart murmur kitty... What grade murmur did your vet say it was? Many kittens and puppies have slight heart murmurs that resolve themselves as they grow. How old is she? If it's a serious one, there are surgical options that you could consider. My ex-husband adopted an 5 week old kitten that had serious heart problems. They did open heart surgery on this little tiny girl and the vet has assured him that she's going to be fine now. I don't know about neg cats and different size pupils, but I know it's something that does occur with felv kitties and doesn't seem to cause any trouble. Does the vet think that her teeth are curved enough to cause her problems? Well, first of all this was not my vet. This was a vet at the city subsidized shot/combo test/spay/neuter place. I got there 10 minutes before they opened and it was a 4.5 hour wait. I hated to do that to them but since it was 5 tests, I couldn't really afford to go to my vet and have it done (he gives me huge discounts and I love him, but not that huge). This vet listened to her heart, said This cat has a heart murmur and we can't inoculate it here. She didn't tell me what grade it was, nor offer me any opinion on her teeth other than that they were genetically abnormal. She couldn't believe Missy had been to the vet before, or that she had gotten spayed at Emancipet(I know heart murmur kitties are supposed to have gas anasthesia.) Take another deep breath. You had a terrible fright with the felv test and that turned out, (at least it appears to have), been nothing to worry about. I'm praying that your special love's problems will work themselves out too. What's her name? My babies name is Missy. She's a tiny little girl, and they remarked on her thinness, though I have been feeding her extra fattening stuff and kitten milk and managed to get her to 5.5 pounds. Her immune system seems abnormal, and she gets URI a lot and has to be syringe fed, and then we lose the progress we have gained. That's one reason I had her re-tested, but she has 2 negative results now, one in November and one Saturday. I kept holding her up to my ear all weekend to see if I could hear anything, I know that is silly. She's spoiled rotten, even with the dozens of cats in my house. She spends most of her time in my lap if I am at home and sitting, or following me around if I am not sitting. She gives me kisses if I am really sad...I say she saves them for when I really need them, but I realistically she probably just likes the salt in my tears. Here's a link to her pic: http://www.moonvine.net/missy.jpg She's 8 months now. I have an appointment for her with my real vet on Saturday. I don't want her left all day at the vet feeling abandoned, nor being dragged around in the heat, unless it is a real emergency. Kelley
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One of my older negatives has had a heart murmur for years. We had it checked out by a specialist. It's never caused a problem so far...Great news about the negative tests!tonya[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cats can develop heart murmurs JUST from the stress of being at the vet's office (onethey don't actually have normally). Try to find a vet that can come to your home andexamine her without the stress of a car ride and the vet's office.You might get some good support from the Handicats2 yahoogroup... they have all kindsof disabilities there.http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HANDICATS2/ is the URL.PhaewrynPLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!!http://ucat.us/adopt.htmlDONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (forpictures) and HOMES for CATS!-- No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006
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Oh Kelley! Stop it with that picture of Missy! She's just too cute for words, no wonder she's stolen your heart. Don't the tiny, needy ones seem to worm their way into a special place in our lives? I think it's fine to wait and bring Missy to your regular vet. Just tell Missy you're bringing her to show her off, that they will want to pet her and tell her how beautiful she is. This doesn't sound like it should be a traumatic visit, just an exam, right? Why don't you ask your vet about supplements, like CoQ10 for her heart, and maybe Interferon A for immune support. A woman I know has had remarkable results with CoQ10, but she did say that you shouldn't start and stop that sup, you might want to ask him if he knows anything about that too. Maybe someone else on the list knows more about it and will let us know. What have you done for her URIs? Do they ever resolve themselves completely? I know there have been list members that have had success with URIs and anemia using something called Immuno-Regulin. You can look it up on our archives for more info, we have discussed it a lot. Personally, I'd hesitate in using it unless the situation were getting desperate, but I thought I'd throw it out there for you to discuss with your vet. Hugs to you, Missy and all your babies, Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Original Message - From: Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:43 am Subject: Re: Test results and an OT question To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org OMG Kelley, that's fabulous news about the neg results!! It must be what I said about false positive results, there's no other way to explain it. They were pretty shocked she tested neg after testing pos 3 days ago. I was very happy until I heard about the heart murmur. As far as the heart murmur kitty... What grade murmur did your vet say it was? Many kittens and puppies have slight heart murmurs that resolve themselves as they grow. How old is she? If it's a serious one, there are surgical options that you could consider. My ex-husband adopted an 5 week old kitten that had serious heart problems. They did open heart surgery on this little tiny girl and the vet has assured him that she's going to be fine now. I don't know about neg cats and different size pupils, but I know it's something that does occur with felv kitties and doesn't seem to cause any trouble. Does the vet think that her teeth are curved enough to cause her problems? Well, first of all this was not my vet. This was a vet at the city subsidized shot/combo test/spay/neuter place. I got there 10 minutes before they opened and it was a 4.5 hour wait. I hated to do that to them but since it was 5 tests, I couldn't really afford to go to my vet and have it done (he gives me huge discounts and I love him, but not that huge). This vet listened to her heart, said "This cat has a heart murmur and we can't inoculate it here." She didn't tell me what grade it was, nor offer me any opinion on her teeth other than that they were genetically abnormal. She couldn't believe Missy had been to the vet before, or that she had gotten spayed at Emancipet(I know heart murmur kitties are supposed to have gas anasthesia.) Take another deep breath. You had a terrible fright with the felv test and that turned out, (at least it appears to have), been nothing to worry about. I'm praying that your special love's problems will work themselves out too. What's her name? My babies name is Missy. She's a tiny little girl, and they remarked on her thinness, though I have been feeding her extra fattening stuff and kitten milk and managed to get her to 5.5 pounds. Her immune system seems abnormal, and she gets URI a lot and has to be syringe fed, and then we lose the progress we have gained. That's one reason I had her re-tested, but she has 2 negative results now, one in November and one Saturday. I kept holding her up to my ear all weekend to see if I could hear anything, I know that is silly. She's spoiled rotten, even with the dozens of cats in my house. She spends most of her time in my lap if I am at home and sitting, or following me around if I am not sitting. She gives me kisses if I am really sad...I say she saves them for when I really need them, but I realistically she probably just likes the salt in my tears. Here's a link to her pic: http://www.moonvine.net/missy.jpg She's 8 months now. I have an appointment for her with my real vet on Saturday. I don't want her left all day at the vet feeling abandoned, nor being dragged around in the heat, unless it is a real emergency. Kelley
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Oh Kelley! Stop it with that picture of Missy! She's just too cute for words, no wonder she's stolen your heart. Don't the tiny, needy ones seem to worm their way into a special place in our lives? She is my baby girl! It is very scary to love another living thing this much. I am single and have no children, and Missy is very special to me. I think it's fine to wait and bring Missy to your regular vet. Just tell Missy you're bringing her to show her off, that they will want to pet her and tell her how beautiful she is. This doesn't sound like it should be a traumatic visit, just an exam, right? I think it will be ok. If he says she can be vaccinated, she will be vaccinated, but my regular vet is so good at vaccinations that my cats don't even notice they have been stuck. Why don't you ask your vet about supplements, like CoQ10 for her heart, and maybe Interferon A for immune support. A woman I know has had remarkable results with CoQ10, but she did say that you shouldn't start and stop that sup, you might want to ask him if he knows anything about that too. Maybe someone else on the list knows more about it and will let us know. I am making a list of stuff to ask him, thanks! What have you done for her URIs? Do they ever resolve themselves completely? She had URI when she came from the shelter (I've had her since she was less than 3 months). She was on Zithro. It resolved completely. By the time I went to get her and her littermates spayed/neutered, she was 4 months and was 4 lb. Her sister was 4.5 and her brother 6. She had no problems with the spay. I took her to my personal vet because she developed conjunctivitis. I expressed concern over her thinness and he told me she was ok, but to feed her fattening stuff to try to get some weight on her. I got her over the conjunctivitis and she got URI again. She was on zithro again, and it resolved. She got it again, and pretty badly, lost a lot of weight and I had to syringe her. She scared me pretty badly this last time. I think she lost probably a whole pound. Now she seems to have it again, but it isn't as bad a case. This is another reason I had her retested. Her immune system just does not seem right at all. I have 4 litters of kittens in my house right no w, and they all had URI, but she was the only older cat I have that got it.
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Missy is absolutely beautiful and I can see why she's your love![EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh Kelley! Stop it with that picture of Missy! She's just too cute for words, no wonder she's stolen your heart. Don't the tiny, needy ones seem to worm their way into a special place in our lives? She is my baby girl! It is very scary to love another living thing this much. I am single and have no children, and Missy is very special to me.I think it's fine to wait and bring Missy to your regular vet. Just tell Missy you're bringing her to show her off, that they will want to pet her and tell her how beautiful she is. This doesn't sound like it should be a traumatic visit, just an exam, right? I think it will be ok. If he says she can be vaccinated, she will be vaccinated, but my regular vet is so good at vaccinations that my cats don't even notice they have been stuck.Why don't you ask your vet about supplements, like CoQ10 for her heart, and maybe Interferon A for immune support. A woman I know has had remarkable results with CoQ10, but she did say that you shouldn't start and stop that sup, you might want to ask him if he knows anything about that too. Maybe someone else on the list knows more about it and will let us know. I am making a list of stuff to ask him, thanks!What have you done for her URIs? Do they ever resolve themselves completely? She had URI when she came from the shelter (I've had her since she was less than 3 months). She was on Zithro. It resolved completely. By the time I went to get her and her littermates spayed/neutered, she was 4 months and was 4 lb. Her sister was 4.5 and her brother 6. She had no problems with the spay. I took her to my personal vet because she developed conjunctivitis. I expressed concern over her thinness and he told me she was ok, but to feed her fattening stuff to try to get some weight on her. I got her over the conjunctivitis and she got URI again. She was on zithro again, and it resolved. She got it again, and pretty badly, lost a lot of weight and I had to syringe her. She scared me pretty badly this last time. I think she lost probably a whole pound. Now she seems to have it again, but it isn't as bad a case. This is another reason I had her retested. Her immune system just does not seem right at all. I have 4 litters of kittens in my house right now, and they all had URI, but she was the only older cat I have that got it. Barb+Smoky the House Puma+El Bandito Malito"My cat the clown: paying no mind to whom he should impress. Merely living his life, doing what pleases him, and making me smile."- Anonymous __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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OMG Kelley, that's fabulous news about the neg results!! It must be what I said about false positive results, there's no other way to explain it. As far as retesting your other previously tested neg cats, your vet is probably right. You seem to have never really had felv in the house. My goodness girl, way to dodge the bullet! You are truly blessed. If it will put your mind at ease, go ahead and have them tested again. They can get some base line cbc results to keep on file at the same time, if you like. As far as the heart murmur kitty... What grade murmur did your vet say it was? Many kittens and puppies have slight heart murmurs that resolve themselves as they grow. How old is she? If it's a serious one, there are surgical options that you could consider. My ex-husband adopted an 5 week old kitten that had serious heart problems. They did open heart surgery on this little tiny girl and the vet has assured him that she's going to be fine now. I don't know about neg cats and different size pupils, but I know it's something that does occur with felv kitties and doesn't seem to cause any trouble. Does the vet think that her teeth are curved enough to cause her problems? Take another deep breath. You had a terrible fright with the felv test and that turned out, (at least it appears to have), been nothing to worry about. I'm praying that your special love's problems will work themselves out too. What's her name? You've obviously got a very powerful Angel on your shoulder, keep the faith that they won't let you down. Nina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi guys, I took 5 kittens/cats in to be tested today. The little girl who previously tested pos tested negative today. So did all her littermates and the unrelated cat. Very, very good news. I still don't understand how one who tested positive 3 days ago tested negative today, but she did. The vet at the clinic feels it is unnecessary at this point to have cats in my home who have previously tested negative re-tested. Do you agree? Also, unfortunately, one little girl I took in was diagnosed with a heart murmur, so they would not inoculate her. The vet also stated she had some genetic abnormalities - asymmetric pupils and teeth that curve in instead of going straight downI'm very worried about her now as she is the love of my life. Do any of yall know of any good web resources on heart murmurs? I'm taking her in for a second opinion next weekend. I wanted to thank everyone for being there for me the last few days. You are an awesome group of people. I learned a lot about this disease, too. Thanks so much, Kelley
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Awesome news! Though I have to say I'm not surprised she retested negative! ;) I found it a little odd that her littermate was negative as kittens are very susceptible to the virus...I suspected a false positive, like Nina, but didn't want to put the cart before the horse, so-to-speak! I'm so glad to hear that that was the case! Unfortunately, I don't know much about the genetic abnormalities that you mentioned! I did have one cat who had a murmur...but it never affected him as far as I know...I used to give him 30 mg of CoQ10 every day as it is supposed to be good for the heart muscle. But I definitely second the second opinion for your little one! :) Jen But if you tame me, then we shall need each other. To me, you will be unique in all the world. To you, I shall be unique in all the world; You become responsible, forever, for what you have tamed... --Antoine de Saint-Exupéry If you talk to the animals they will talk with you and you will know each other. If you do not talk to them you will not know them, and what you do not know you will fear. What one fears one destroys. --Chief Dan George The flame that burns twice as bright burns half as long... --Blade Runner - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Saturday, June 10, 2006 2:12 pm Subject: Test results and an OT question To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi guys, I took 5 kittens/cats in to be tested today. The little girl who previously tested pos tested negative today. So did all her littermates and the unrelated cat. Very, very good news. I still don't understand how one who tested positive 3 days ago tested negative today, but she did. The vet at the clinic feels it is unnecessary at this point to have cats in my home who have previously tested negative re-tested. Do you agree? Also, unfortunately, one little girl I took in was diagnosed with a heart murmur, so they would not inoculate her. The vet also stated she had some genetic abnormalities - asymmetric pupils and teeth that curve in instead of going straight downI'm very worried about her now as she is the love of my life. Do any of yall know of any good web resources on heart murmurs? I'm taking her in for a second opinion next weekend. I wanted to thank everyone for being there for me the last few days. You are an awesome group of people. I learned a lot about this disease, too. Thanks so much, Kelley
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Cats can develop heart murmurs JUST from the stress of being at the vet's office (one they don't actually have normally). Try to find a vet that can come to your home and examine her without the stress of a car ride and the vet's office. You might get some good support from the Handicats2 yahoogroup... they have all kinds of disabilities there. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HANDICATS2/ is the URL. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006
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I haven't followed this closely but I have a question: Is it possible to give the cat some sort of mild sedative before taking it to the vet's to avoid the stress reaction? I try to give mine Rescue Remedy just because she absolutely hates vets. I don't know what happened to her before she came to live with me but she is the only critter (dog or cat) that starts trembling at the thought of going to the vet. Her current vets have given her no reason to be so frightened. Like I said, just a thought. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Test results and an OT question Cats can develop heart murmurs JUST from the stress of being at the vet's office (one they don't actually have normally). Try to find a vet that can come to your home and examine her without the stress of a car ride and the vet's office. You might get some good support from the Handicats2 yahoogroup... they have all kinds of disabilities there. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HANDICATS2/ is the URL. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006
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The only thing I know is Acepromazine, but I don't know if it would interfere with getting accurate readings, etc. Also, personally, I cannot see that it made any difference in the two cats I have used it on. My cat Spaz will run and hide at the mere sound of the carrier, but it is only because she has spent so much time at the vet's being poked on (blood drawings, mostly). Also, my four other former ferals are afraid of the carrier, but that's more understandable. Is your cat nervous when you try to get her to take her to the vet, or does she get nervous once there in the presence of the techs/vet? Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 6:25 PM Subject: Re: Test results and an OT question I haven't followed this closely but I have a question: Is it possible to give the cat some sort of mild sedative before taking it to the vet's to avoid the stress reaction? I try to give mine Rescue Remedy just because she absolutely hates vets. I don't know what happened to her before she came to live with me but she is the only critter (dog or cat) that starts trembling at the thought of going to the vet. Her current vets have given her no reason to be so frightened. Like I said, just a thought. If you have men who will exclude any of God's creatures from the shelter of compassion and pity, you will have men who will deal likewise with their fellow man. St. Francis - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 3:37 PM Subject: Re: Test results and an OT question Cats can develop heart murmurs JUST from the stress of being at the vet's office (one they don't actually have normally). Try to find a vet that can come to your home and examine her without the stress of a car ride and the vet's office. You might get some good support from the Handicats2 yahoogroup... they have all kinds of disabilities there. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/HANDICATS2/ is the URL. Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006
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So glad your little one retested neg! I agree with your vet about retesting your other cats, but personally, I would still have them vaccinated. I don't know anything about heart murmurs, but as far as the teeth go, does the vet feel it will be detrimental to her oral health or ability to eat, etc. The reason I ask is because I am a dental lab technician and I know of cases where labs, vets, and dentists have worked together to restore feline/canine teeth. Kris http://www.spazstory.zoomshare.com - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2006 3:11 PM Subject: Test results and an OT question Hi guys, I took 5 kittens/cats in to be tested today. The little girl who previously tested pos tested negative today. So did all her littermates and the unrelated cat. Very, very good news. I still don't understand how one who tested positive 3 days ago tested negative today, but she did. The vet at the clinic feels it is unnecessary at this point to have cats in my home who have previously tested negative re-tested. Do you agree? Also, unfortunately, one little girl I took in was diagnosed with a heart murmur, so they would not inoculate her. The vet also stated she had some genetic abnormalities - asymmetric pupils and teeth that curve in instead of going straight downI'm very worried about her now as she is the love of my life. Do any of yall know of any good web resources on heart murmurs? I'm taking her in for a second opinion next weekend. I wanted to thank everyone for being there for me the last few days. You are an awesome group of people. I learned a lot about this disease, too. Thanks so much, Kelley
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Ace is a dangerous drug used in cats but not one I would ever recommend. Especially for a cat with heart issues, I would NOT ever use any tranquilizers. We recently discussed the use of ACE in cats on one of the lists I am on... must not have been this one though. The consensus was to NOT use it though (and this was for a healthy cat just for a trip). http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_acepromazine.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Acepromazine http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phenothiazine (oh, did I mention it's MADE out of a pesticide?) http://a1272.g.akamai.net/7/1272/1121/20050919193122/www.drsfostersmith.com/Rx_Info_Sheets/rx_acepromazine.pdf (this is the patient info sheet, just like you get when you pick up a prescription for yourself, most vets do NOT provide these for meds prescribed to your pets... makes you wonder why, doesn't it?) http://www.wedgewoodpharmacy.com/monographs/AcepromazineMaleate.asp Phaewryn PLEASE Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah Cat Rescue!!! http://ucat.us/adopt.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures) and HOMES for CATS! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.3/360 - Release Date: 6/9/2006
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In a message dated 6/5/2006 4:37:46 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I cannot understand how an animal that licks its hindquarters refuses to eat Mega C. Go figure . . LOL...I never thought about it that way before. Good point!! :) When my cats won't take something, at my vet's suggestion, I either cover the pill itself w/ butter, or crush it put it into any empty gel cap cover that w/ butter. Then freeze it. It slides right down without the butter coming off. Worked like a charm when I had to give nasty metronidazole to 4 of mine at the same time. Yvonne
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Don't know if anyone answered you but yes the test results could definitely change in several months. The in house test is not 100% accurate, if you get a positive in house test I would wait atleast 3 months and retest using an IFA or PCR test, they are better tests. Also in the meantime while your waiting to retest, get them on the best food you can afford, and interferon if you can. There are other supplements like Mega C plus I would use also, you can find that here: http://www.belfield.com/products.html Here is an article he wrote that you may find interesting: http://www.belfield.com/article2.html -- Belinda happiness is being owned by cats ... Be-Mi-Kitties http://bemikitties.com Post Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittens http://adopt.bemikitties.com FeLV Candlelight Service http://bemikitties.com/cls HostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design] http://HostDesign4U.com BMK Designs [non-profit animals websites] http://bmk.bemikitties.com
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About Belfield's Mega C . . .I ordered some, but Bella will not touch it! I've tried mixing minuscule amountb in both canned Felidae and dry California Naturals. If she detects the faintest amount, she will not eay it. (We had a battle of wills in which that was all I offered her for 2 1/2 days. She won. She never ate it. I finally relented since I don't think fasting can be all that good for her . . .)Do any of you have tricks to get a cat to eat the Mega C? (I've thougth about mixing it with water and putting it on her coats, but I haven't done that yet.) I cannot understand how an animal that licks its hindquarters refuses to eat Mega C. Go figure . . .~AshleighBelinda [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know if anyone answered you but yes the test results could definitely change in several months. The in house test is not 100% accurate, if you get a positive in house test I would wait atleast 3 months and retest using an IFA or PCR test, they are better tests. Also in the meantime while your waiting to retest, get them on the best food you can afford, and interferon if you can. There are other supplements like Mega C plus I would use also, you can find that here:http://www.belfield.com/products.htmlHere is an article he wrote that you may find interesting:http://www.belfield.com/article2.html-- Belindahappiness is being owned by cats ...Be-Mi-Kittieshttp://bemikitties.comPost Adoptable FeLV/FIV/FIP Cats/Kittenshttp://adopt.bemikitties.comFeLV Candlelight Servicehttp://bemikitties.com/clsHostDesign4U.com [affordable hosting web design]http://HostDesign4U.comBMK Designs [non-profit animals websites]http://bmk.bemikitties.com __Do You Yahoo!?Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
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I don't know what the recommended dosage is, but maybe you could get some empty gel caps at the health food store and pill her? Have you had to give her pills before? Some cats are easy and some, uh, not so easy to pill. Just a thought. I was supplementing with vita C too, but it didn't have a pronounced taste and nobody refused it mixed in food. Nina Ashleigh Smith wrote: About Belfield's Mega C . . . I ordered some, but Bella will not touch it! I've tried mixing minuscule amountb in both canned Felidae and dry California Naturals. If she detects the faintest amount, she will not eay it. (We had a battle of wills in which that was all I offered her for 2 1/2 days. She won. She never ate it. I finally relented since I don't think fasting can be all that good for her . . .) Do any of you have tricks to get a cat to eat the Mega C? (I've thougth about mixing it with water and putting it on her coats, but I haven't done that yet.) I cannot understand how an animal that licks its hindquarters refuses to eat Mega C. Go figure . . . ~Ashleigh
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Hi Ashleigh, Maybe you could syringe dose her, mixing the Mega C in with broth or spring water? I know nothing about the particulars. Hopefully someone on the list has used this method before. Good luck to you and Bella. Lance
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I've mixed it with gruel and dosed it with a syringe in the batch of FeLV kittens I have in rescue right now. Works like a charm. I probably won't bother even trying to mix with wet food and offer it to them free choice as I hate the idea of them refusing and seeing it go to waste. Good luck! Rachel On 6/5/06, Lance Linimon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Ashleigh,Maybe you could syringe dose her, mixing the Mega C in with broth orspring water? I know nothing about the particulars. Hopefully someone on the list has used this method before. Good luck to you and Bella.Lance
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I mix the mega C in wet food and no rescue has ever refused it Karen
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NO, in house tests are commonly wrong to begin with.. and for true test results on kittens from a positive momma, they need to be at least 6 months old when tested. Then retest at 9 months and at one year before making any decisions. Confirm all tests with IFA if you can afford it, but at least confirm the 9 month test with IFA. Phaewryn (was Jenn, changed name) http://ucat.us http://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.html Adopt a cat from Little Cheetah (UCAT) Cat Rescue: http://ucat.us/adopt.html PLEASE DONATE TO THE TANGLE FUND: Tangle is a cat in Greece that was severely injured when someone wrapped wire around his neck to strangle him, Little Cheetah Cat Rescue is raising funds to bring Tangle to Vermont to find him a good home! http://ucat.us/tangle-fund.html DONATE: We could really use a power saw (for construction), a digital camera (for pictures), and more towels! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.8.1/354 - Release Date: 6/1/2006
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Thanks, Wendy!! Helene -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of wendy Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 3:42 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: test i see you helen --- Helene Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seeing if I am still on the list before I re-subscribe. Helene __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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Lynne, At 2.5 yrs and after living with the positives for such a long time, my bet is that another test will turn up negative as well. I'm not sure what the exact gestation period is for felv, I'm not sure anyone knows, please members, if you know... Anyway, it wouldn't hurt to have them retested for peace of mind. I'd wait at least three months, unless you intend to add to the household and want to make sure these guys did not become infected. I'm sorry to hear of your loss. Many of us have gone through the heartache of losing one after another to this terrible disease. My sympathies to you and yours, Nina Lynne Moquin wrote: Advice appreciated for when or if we need to test our two cats again : Our third cat died of FeLV cancer on Nov.2nd. The three cats all had fairly close associated during the last month as in, being in same room and some physical contact. The other two cats had blood drawn on Nov.5 and both Elisa and IFA were negative. Should we test them again and if so when ? One vet said to be absolutely sure test again but he was convinced himself they are okay. Another vet was all for vaccines no matter what. These two are 2 1/2. they had one single vacc. at age 12 weeks and as of age 14 1/2 weeks were in VERY close contact - grooming, sleeping, eating - up to late Sept. early Oct. Thanks so much Lynne __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
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When I read your post again, I misunderstood you. I thought you had three pos that died. Let me see if I have this straight, you had 3 cats, one of which was positive. They all lived together for how long? One month? What was that about being in very close contact since they were 14.5 weeks? I'm sorry, I'm a bit confused. Nina Nina wrote: Lynne, At 2.5 yrs and after living with the positives for such a long time, my bet is that another test will turn up negative as well. I'm not sure what the exact gestation period is for felv, I'm not sure anyone knows, please members, if you know... Anyway, it wouldn't hurt to have them retested for peace of mind. I'd wait at least three months, unless you intend to add to the household and want to make sure these guys did not become infected. I'm sorry to hear of your loss. Many of us have gone through the heartache of losing one after another to this terrible disease. My sympathies to you and yours, Nina Lynne Moquin wrote: Advice appreciated for when or if we need to test our two cats again : Our third cat died of FeLV cancer on Nov.2nd. The three cats all had fairly close associated during the last month as in, being in same room and some physical contact. The other two cats had blood drawn on Nov.5 and both Elisa and IFA were negative. Should we test them again and if so when ? One vet said to be absolutely sure test again but he was convinced himself they are okay. Another vet was all for vaccines no matter what. These two are 2 1/2. they had one single vacc. at age 12 weeks and as of age 14 1/2 weeks were in VERY close contact - grooming, sleeping, eating - up to late Sept. early Oct. Thanks so much Lynne __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca
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Lynne, first, I'm so sorry for the loss of your kitty. That's so hard. If it were me I would test the others once again, to be on the safe side. It can't harm. And the advice usually is, test twice, just in case it was too early for the latent virus to be picked up by the first test (that happened with one of mine--she tested neg, then positive 3 months later tho nothing in her environment/situation had changed) Re retesting timelag--my vet told me to retest in 1 month; someone else with authority (it may have been Anitra Frazier in her book The Natural Cat) said 3 months. (I re-tested after 3 months.) If the cats are indoors and have NO chance of coming into contact with another unknown cat I would not vaccinate against FeLVthe vaccine carries its own risk. Definitely do not vaccinate a positive--it's not just pointless; it could also affect them adversely given their already weak immune system. Incidentally, if one tests pos and one neg I would not separate them: the exposure has already taken place, the neg has proven not to have been infected, and separation would just upset them. Knowing the status means you would be able to take steps to support the positive's immune system (as Jenn rightly pointed out a couple of weeke ago. best wishes for the continuing health of your 2 kitties. Kerry -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Lynne Moquin Sent: Thursday, December 01, 2005 11:29 AM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Test protocol question Advice appreciated for when or if we need to test our two cats again : Our third cat died of FeLV cancer on Nov.2nd. The three cats all had fairly close associated during the last month as in, being in same room and some physical contact. The other two cats had blood drawn on Nov.5 and both Elisa and IFA were negative. Should we test them again and if so when ? One vet said to be absolutely sure test again but he was convinced himself they are okay. Another vet was all for vaccines no matter what. These two are 2 1/2. they had one single vacc. at age 12 weeks and as of age 14 1/2 weeks were in VERY close contact - grooming, sleeping, eating - up to late Sept. early Oct. Thanks so much Lynne __ Find your next car at http://autos.yahoo.ca hr IRS CIRCULAR 230 NOTICE. Any advice expressed above as to tax matters was neither written nor intended by the sender or Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP to be used and cannot be used by any taxpayer for the purpose of avoiding tax penalties that may be imposed under U.S. tax law. If any person uses or refers to any such tax advice in promoting, marketing or recommending a partnership or other entity, investment plan or arrangement to any taxpayer, then (i) the advice was written to support the promotion or marketing (by a person other than Mayer, Brown, Rowe Maw LLP) of that transaction or matter, and (ii) such taxpayer should seek advice based on the taxpayers particular circumstances from an independent tax advisor hr This email and any files transmitted with it are intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail.
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i see you helen --- Helene Hand [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: seeing if I am still on the list before I re-subscribe. Helene __ Start your day with Yahoo! - Make it your home page! http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
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WOW!!! Hi Helene! Long time no see! Like I should talk -- I'm a lurker myself these days. Nice to see you! =^..^= Terri, Siggie the Tomato Vampire, Guinevere, Sammi, Travis, and 6 furangels: RuthieGirl, Samantha, Arielle, Gareth, Alec Salome' =^..^= Furkid Photos! http://mysite.verizon.net/vze7sgqa/My Personal Page: http://www.geocities.com/ruthiegirl1/terrispage.html?1083970447350 - Original Message - From: Helene Hand To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, November 30, 2005 3:33 PM Subject: test seeing if I am still on the list before I re-subscribe. Helene
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like michelle I would like to know also.
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me too, I'm clueless on everything except hemocrit, which I know needs to be above 7 or soto live. I think that's the one abbr as HCT. Jennhttp://ucat.ushttp://ucat.us/domesticcatlinks.htmlAdopt a cat from UCAT rescue:http://ucat.us/adopt.html Adopt a FIV+ cat: http://ucat.us/AWrescue/FIV/Adopt a FELV+ cat:http://ucat.us/FELVadopt.html~~~I collect KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil, a 3 yr old special needs cat who must live on a liquid diet for the rest of his life.Bazil's caretaker collects labels and sends them to KMR, where they add up until she earns a free can of formula!PLEASE save your KMR kitten formula labels for Bazil!If you use KMR, even just one can, please email me for the NEW address to send them to!~Does your cat have chronic diarrhea that does not respond to treatment, or has your cat been loosely diagnosed as IBD? Have you tested for Tritrichomonosis? The test is new, the new drug makes it curable. Ask me today how you can test for Trich! No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.362 / Virus Database: 267.13.7/182 - Release Date: 11/24/2005
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I think this site may be helpful in reading test results. http://home.gci.net/~divs/disease/lab_tests.html Gary - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 3:30 AM Subject: Test Results I have never gone into blood test results too much before but am intrgued from the ones recently put up by Carrie (if I remember correctly). Please could someone be so kind as to educate me as to what they all mean and what is normal and abnormal - send privately if it is too long for group mail but it would be better on group as I'm sure other people here would benefit too. I've listed Carries results below Thanks Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy Angel Bramble
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Here are a couple of more links on tests. http://www.thepetcenter.com/pha/cp.html http://www.peteducation.com/article.cfm?cls=0cat=1474articleid=989 Gary - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, November 25, 2005 3:30 AM Subject: Test Results I have never gone into blood test results too much before but am intrgued from the ones recently put up by Carrie (if I remember correctly). Please could someone be so kind as to educate me as to what they all mean and what is normal and abnormal - send privately if it is too long for group mail but it would be better on group as I'm sure other people here would benefit too. I've listed Carries results below Thanks Michelle, Minstrel, Buddy Angel Bramble
