Re: [Felvtalk] (Fwd) Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat

2009-01-23 Thread catatonya
I'm sorry, Jennifer.
  tonya

James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net wrote:
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Date sent: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:45 -0500


Hello everyone,

I thought I'd let you know how the blood transfusion 
helped/didn't help my Felv+ cat, so that if you need to 
reach that decision, you can see my example.

The day before we did the blood transfusion, Mr. Darcy's 
hematocrit count was at 7 (I was told that 30 is the lowest 
you can be and still be healthy). He was extremely 
lethargic and as a result would eat. He lost 2 pounds in a 
month (even with us assist feeding him) and he was 
starting to catch a respiratory bug.

Right after the transfusion, which cost 800 dollars and 
took about 5 hours, his hematocrit was at 17. That's 
great, but I am upset. I was thinking he'd be brought up to 
a healthy level, not just a slightly better level. He had 
perked up and he is eating turkey baby food now, but he 
still is extremely tired and now he has balance troubles. 

What I am most upset with was the lack of information 
from my vet and the animal hospital. When told about the 
blood transfusion by my normal vet, she made it sound 
like he'd be back at a healthy level and that it could work 
for months and that it was perfectly safe. When we were 
handing him over to the vet at the hospital, he finally told 
me that Mr. Darcy could die during the procedure and that 
it may only last a few hours, days. I am furious. It makes 
me feel like money is more important then informing the 
owner.

I have decided to not do any more transfusions due to the 
fact that he's in the last stage of his illness and going to 
the vet really stresses him out. He won't eat for the rest of 
the day and since the transfusion may only give him days, 
I would rather have him enjoy his last days/weeks. So 
right now, we're at the point where the most we can do is 
get him to eat and sleep and to pet him and love him as 
much as we can.

Now, your cat may have a different experience, but I just 
wanted to tell my story.

Jennifer and Mr. Darcy
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Re: [Felvtalk] (Fwd) Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat

2009-01-23 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I don't know where you live, or the nature of the transfusion, it  
could be more involved that the usual.  But I've had transfusions for  
a couple of my FELV cats, and they did extend their lives a bit.  Just  
have to say that $800 sounds like an awfully expensive transfusion.


Gloria



On Jan 23, 2009, at 4:55 AM, catatonya wrote:


I'm sorry, Jennifer.
 tonya

James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net wrote:
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Subject: Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat
Date sent: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:45 -0500


Hello everyone,

I thought I'd let you know how the blood transfusion
helped/didn't help my Felv+ cat, so that if you need to
reach that decision, you can see my example.

The day before we did the blood transfusion, Mr. Darcy's
hematocrit count was at 7 (I was told that 30 is the lowest
you can be and still be healthy). He was extremely
lethargic and as a result would eat. He lost 2 pounds in a
month (even with us assist feeding him) and he was
starting to catch a respiratory bug.

Right after the transfusion, which cost 800 dollars and
took about 5 hours, his hematocrit was at 17. That's
great, but I am upset. I was thinking he'd be brought up to
a healthy level, not just a slightly better level. He had
perked up and he is eating turkey baby food now, but he
still is extremely tired and now he has balance troubles.

What I am most upset with was the lack of information
from my vet and the animal hospital. When told about the
blood transfusion by my normal vet, she made it sound
like he'd be back at a healthy level and that it could work
for months and that it was perfectly safe. When we were
handing him over to the vet at the hospital, he finally told
me that Mr. Darcy could die during the procedure and that
it may only last a few hours, days. I am furious. It makes
me feel like money is more important then informing the
owner.

I have decided to not do any more transfusions due to the
fact that he's in the last stage of his illness and going to
the vet really stresses him out. He won't eat for the rest of
the day and since the transfusion may only give him days,
I would rather have him enjoy his last days/weeks. So
right now, we're at the point where the most we can do is
get him to eat and sleep and to pet him and love him as
much as we can.

Now, your cat may have a different experience, but I just
wanted to tell my story.

Jennifer and Mr. Darcy
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Re: [Felvtalk] (Fwd) Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat

2009-01-23 Thread dlgegg
transfusions work and they don't work.  when my red count got to 3.4, the 
doctor ordered transfusions in addition to procrit.  they did not work because 
the Gemzar was wiping out my bone marrow and it could not produce cells faster 
than the Gemzar was killing them off.  the only solution was to stop the chemo. 
 i then bounced back and didn't look like a ghost.  if meds are not causing the 
low count, then i would ask a lot of questions before i would do this to my 
baby.  sometimes the cure is worse than the illness.  it is hard, you want them 
to hang on because you do not want to lose them.  that is the way it was with 
my father.  i wanted so for him to live and i think he kept trying to for me.  
finally, he just could not go on anymore.  he kept asking me if i was getting 
tired of taking care of him.  cats can't ask us if we are tired of taking care 
of them, we just have to pay attention to them and read their body language.  
dorlis
 catatonya catato...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 I'm sorry, Jennifer.
   tonya
 
 James G Wilson phaed...@charter.net wrote:
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 From: Jennifer Dykhouse 
 
 To: 
 Subject: Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat
 Date sent: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:45 -0500
 
 
 Hello everyone,
 
 I thought I'd let you know how the blood transfusion 
 helped/didn't help my Felv+ cat, so that if you need to 
 reach that decision, you can see my example.
 
 The day before we did the blood transfusion, Mr. Darcy's 
 hematocrit count was at 7 (I was told that 30 is the lowest 
 you can be and still be healthy). He was extremely 
 lethargic and as a result would eat. He lost 2 pounds in a 
 month (even with us assist feeding him) and he was 
 starting to catch a respiratory bug.
 
 Right after the transfusion, which cost 800 dollars and 
 took about 5 hours, his hematocrit was at 17. That's 
 great, but I am upset. I was thinking he'd be brought up to 
 a healthy level, not just a slightly better level. He had 
 perked up and he is eating turkey baby food now, but he 
 still is extremely tired and now he has balance troubles. 
 
 What I am most upset with was the lack of information 
 from my vet and the animal hospital. When told about the 
 blood transfusion by my normal vet, she made it sound 
 like he'd be back at a healthy level and that it could work 
 for months and that it was perfectly safe. When we were 
 handing him over to the vet at the hospital, he finally told 
 me that Mr. Darcy could die during the procedure and that 
 it may only last a few hours, days. I am furious. It makes 
 me feel like money is more important then informing the 
 owner.
 
 I have decided to not do any more transfusions due to the 
 fact that he's in the last stage of his illness and going to 
 the vet really stresses him out. He won't eat for the rest of 
 the day and since the transfusion may only give him days, 
 I would rather have him enjoy his last days/weeks. So 
 right now, we're at the point where the most we can do is 
 get him to eat and sleep and to pet him and love him as 
 much as we can.
 
 Now, your cat may have a different experience, but I just 
 wanted to tell my story.
 
 Jennifer and Mr. Darcy
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Re: [Felvtalk] (Fwd) Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat

2009-01-23 Thread dlgegg
hi, i think that would be the way i would go.  sometimes, we want to do all we 
can for them and all we are really doing is causing more suffering.   have 5 
new babies (that is all i can afford financially and physically to support), 1 
felv+.  so far, all is well, Annie shows no signs of illness.  there has been 
some stress for her when the others came home since she is an alpha female and 
so is Casey, but we are down to a low growl when we pass one another.  dorlis
 MacKenzie wrote: 
 I am very sorry that you had such a bad experience, Jennifer. It's
 really unforgivable that a vet should be so unclear about what to expect
 from a transfusion for a kitty with nonregenerative anemia. I had my
 FeLV kitty, Flavia, given a transfusion after she was diagnosed with
 nonregenerative anemia and her hematocrit dropped to 7.5. Unlike
 Jennifer's careless (unethical?) vet, mine did tell me it would give her
 (only) an extra couple of weeks at most. I wanted those extra weeks to
 try to find a way to prolong her life significantly. I obtained
 immunoregulin for her but too late, so I didn't get a chance to try it.
 Nonetheless, in the same circumstances, I would not do a transfusion
 again. It was tremendously stressful for Flavia, it was very expensive
 ($1000 total for transfusion plus drawing my healthy cat's blood) and it
 gave her only 10 days extra (her HCT went up to 23), when her HCT
 plummeted again to 13. Like Jennifer, I would much rather concentrate on
 doing everything possible to ensure my cat enjoys every moment of the
 rest of her time, however long that may be, in the comfort of her own
 home.
 Kerry M.
 
 
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 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of James G Wilson
 Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:05 PM
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 From: Jennifer Dykhouse 
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 To:   felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org
 Subject:  Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat
 Date sent:Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:45 -0500
 
 
 Hello everyone,
  
 I thought I'd let you know how the blood transfusion 
 helped/didn't help my Felv+ cat, so that if you need to 
 reach that decision, you can see my example.
  
 The day before we did the blood transfusion, Mr. Darcy's 
 hematocrit count was at 7 (I was told that 30 is the lowest 
 you can be and still be healthy).  He was extremely 
 lethargic and as a result would eat. He lost 2 pounds in a 
 month (even with us assist feeding him) and he was 
 starting to catch a respiratory bug.
  
 Right after the transfusion, which cost 800 dollars and 
 took about 5 hours, his hematocrit was at 17.  That's 
 great, but I am upset. I was thinking he'd be brought up to 
 a healthy level, not just a slightly better level.  He had 
 perked up and he is eating turkey baby food now, but he 
 still is extremely tired and now he has balance troubles. 
  
 What I am most upset with was the lack of information 
 from my vet and the animal hospital. When told about the 
 blood transfusion by my normal vet, she made it sound 
 like he'd be back at a healthy level and that it could work 
 for months and that it was perfectly safe. When we were 
 handing him over to the vet at the hospital, he finally told 
 me that Mr. Darcy could die during the procedure and that 
 it may only last a few hours, days. I am furious. It makes 
 me feel like money is more important then informing the 
 owner.
  
 I have decided to not do any more transfusions due to the 
 fact that he's in the last stage of his illness and going to 
 the vet really stresses him out. He won't eat for the rest of 
 the day and since the transfusion may only give him days, 
 I would rather have him enjoy his last days/weeks.  So 
 right now, we're at the point where the most we can do is 
 get him to eat and sleep and to pet him and love him as 
 much as we can.
  
 Now, your cat may have a different experience, but I just 
 wanted to tell my story.
  
 Jennifer and Mr. Darcy
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Re: [Felvtalk] (Fwd) Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat

2009-01-23 Thread Laurieskatz
Jennifer, you and Mr. Darcy are in my thoughts and prayers. I think you are
doing the best thing for your precious boy.
God bless,
Laurie

 From: Jennifer Dykhouse 
 
 To: 
 Subject: Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat
 Date sent: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:45 -0500
 
 
 
 I have decided to not do any more transfusions due to the 
 fact that he's in the last stage of his illness and going to 
 the vet really stresses him out. He won't eat for the rest of 
 the day and since the transfusion may only give him days, 
 I would rather have him enjoy his last days/weeks. So 
 right now, we're at the point where the most we can do is 
 get him to eat and sleep and to pet him and love him as 
 much as we can.
 
 Now, your cat may have a different experience, but I just 
 wanted to tell my story.
 
 Jennifer and Mr. Darcy
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Re: [Felvtalk] (Fwd) Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat

2009-01-22 Thread Cougar Clan
My vets and I made the decision not to transfuse Dixie Louise for the  
reasons you gave.  I am very grateful that my vets were very up front  
about the situation and, while they made it an option and assured me  
they would arrange it, they would not put their own cats thru it  
(given Dixie's condition and total dislike of vets).  She spent quite  
a bit of time with her holistic vet (to whom my regular vets had  
referred me years before with a little beagle and who saw all m  
critters since) but that did not seem to stress her the way a  
transfusion at a strange place wold have.  All my vets let me stay  
with my friends no matter what is going on.  Many specialists won't.   
Another reason we didn't do the transfusions.


You did what you thought was best and Mr. Darcy loves you for that.   
However, I am sure he approves of your decision to let him wind down  
without the added stress.


Blessings to you.
On Jan 21, 2009, at 9:04 PM, James G Wilson wrote:


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Subject:Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat
Date sent:  Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:45 -0500


Hello everyone,

I thought I'd let you know how the blood transfusion
helped/didn't help my Felv+ cat, so that if you need to
reach that decision, you can see my example.

The day before we did the blood transfusion, Mr. Darcy's
hematocrit count was at 7 (I was told that 30 is the lowest
you can be and still be healthy).  He was extremely
lethargic and as a result would eat. He lost 2 pounds in a
month (even with us assist feeding him) and he was
starting to catch a respiratory bug.

Right after the transfusion, which cost 800 dollars and
took about 5 hours, his hematocrit was at 17.  That's
great, but I am upset. I was thinking he'd be brought up to
a healthy level, not just a slightly better level.  He had
perked up and he is eating turkey baby food now, but he
still is extremely tired and now he has balance troubles.

What I am most upset with was the lack of information
from my vet and the animal hospital. When told about the
blood transfusion by my normal vet, she made it sound
like he'd be back at a healthy level and that it could work
for months and that it was perfectly safe. When we were
handing him over to the vet at the hospital, he finally told
me that Mr. Darcy could die during the procedure and that
it may only last a few hours, days. I am furious. It makes
me feel like money is more important then informing the
owner.

I have decided to not do any more transfusions due to the
fact that he's in the last stage of his illness and going to
the vet really stresses him out. He won't eat for the rest of
the day and since the transfusion may only give him days,
I would rather have him enjoy his last days/weeks.  So
right now, we're at the point where the most we can do is
get him to eat and sleep and to pet him and love him as
much as we can.

Now, your cat may have a different experience, but I just
wanted to tell my story.

Jennifer and Mr. Darcy
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Re: [Felvtalk] (Fwd) Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat

2009-01-22 Thread MacKenzie, Kerry N.
I am very sorry that you had such a bad experience, Jennifer. It's
really unforgivable that a vet should be so unclear about what to expect
from a transfusion for a kitty with nonregenerative anemia. I had my
FeLV kitty, Flavia, given a transfusion after she was diagnosed with
nonregenerative anemia and her hematocrit dropped to 7.5. Unlike
Jennifer's careless (unethical?) vet, mine did tell me it would give her
(only) an extra couple of weeks at most. I wanted those extra weeks to
try to find a way to prolong her life significantly. I obtained
immunoregulin for her but too late, so I didn't get a chance to try it.
Nonetheless, in the same circumstances, I would not do a transfusion
again. It was tremendously stressful for Flavia, it was very expensive
($1000 total for transfusion plus drawing my healthy cat's blood) and it
gave her only 10 days extra (her HCT went up to 23), when her HCT
plummeted again to 13. Like Jennifer, I would much rather concentrate on
doing everything possible to ensure my cat enjoys every moment of the
rest of her time, however long that may be, in the comfort of her own
home.
Kerry M.


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Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 9:05 PM
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Subject: [Felvtalk] (Fwd) Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat

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From:   Jennifer Dykhouse 
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To: felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org
Subject:Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat
Date sent:  Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:45 -0500


Hello everyone,
 
I thought I'd let you know how the blood transfusion 
helped/didn't help my Felv+ cat, so that if you need to 
reach that decision, you can see my example.
 
The day before we did the blood transfusion, Mr. Darcy's 
hematocrit count was at 7 (I was told that 30 is the lowest 
you can be and still be healthy).  He was extremely 
lethargic and as a result would eat. He lost 2 pounds in a 
month (even with us assist feeding him) and he was 
starting to catch a respiratory bug.
 
Right after the transfusion, which cost 800 dollars and 
took about 5 hours, his hematocrit was at 17.  That's 
great, but I am upset. I was thinking he'd be brought up to 
a healthy level, not just a slightly better level.  He had 
perked up and he is eating turkey baby food now, but he 
still is extremely tired and now he has balance troubles. 
 
What I am most upset with was the lack of information 
from my vet and the animal hospital. When told about the 
blood transfusion by my normal vet, she made it sound 
like he'd be back at a healthy level and that it could work 
for months and that it was perfectly safe. When we were 
handing him over to the vet at the hospital, he finally told 
me that Mr. Darcy could die during the procedure and that 
it may only last a few hours, days. I am furious. It makes 
me feel like money is more important then informing the 
owner.
 
I have decided to not do any more transfusions due to the 
fact that he's in the last stage of his illness and going to 
the vet really stresses him out. He won't eat for the rest of 
the day and since the transfusion may only give him days, 
I would rather have him enjoy his last days/weeks.  So 
right now, we're at the point where the most we can do is 
get him to eat and sleep and to pet him and love him as 
much as we can.
 
Now, your cat may have a different experience, but I just 
wanted to tell my story.
 
Jennifer and Mr. Darcy
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Re: [Felvtalk] (Fwd) Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat

2009-01-22 Thread Belinda Sauro
  Wow, that is an extremely high cost for a transfusion, they are 
rip offs, where do you live?   I have gotten transfusions for under 
$200.00.  You may ask your vet about trying epogen, procrit or arsnap 
all help with anemia.  Bailey my positive was on epogen and prednisolone 
when he was anemic.  His HCT went from a low of 15 to 40 in 6 weeks.   
He remained in the mid 30's the rest of his life.  He died from 
undiagnosed pancreatic cancer.


Do they know what is causing the anemia?  Has he ever been on 
doxycycline for 4 weeks minimum?  Hemobartonella is almost impossible to 
test for and many cats have been saved by being put on doxy even thought 
they tested negative for hemo.  From other lists I'm on I know of 
several cats tested 4 or 5 times testing negative being put on doxy and 
recovering ... obviously they had hemo but were testing negative.  There 
are other drugs in the tetroclycline family if Darcy can't tolerate 
doxy, doxy is just thought to work the best.


Prayers coming to little Darcy and your family.

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Re: [Felvtalk] (Fwd) Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat

2009-01-22 Thread Christy Buchin

We transfused our cat Gray Kitty twice now.  The lowest his hematocrit ever 
went was 9.  After each transfusion he went up to around 30-35 which is in the 
normal range, then dipped down to 18-20 where he remains.   From: 
phaed...@charter.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 
21:04:36 -0600 Subject: [Felvtalk] (Fwd) Blood transfusion on Felv+ cat  
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transfusion on Felv+ cat Date sent: Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:17:45 -0500   Hello 
everyone,  I thought I'd let you know how the blood transfusion  
helped/didn't help my Felv+ cat, so that if you need to  reach that decision, 
you can see my example.  The day before we did the blood transfusion, Mr. 
Darcy's  hematocrit count was at 7 (I was told that 30 is the lowest  you can 
be and still be healthy). He was extremely  lethargic and as a result would 
eat. He lost 2 pounds in a  month (even with us assist feeding him) and he was 
 starting to catch a respiratory bug.  Right after the transfusion, which 
cost 800 dollars and  took about 5 hours, his hematocrit was at 17. That's  
great, but I am upset. I was thinking he'd be brought up to  a healthy level, 
not just a slightly better level. He had  perked up and he is eating turkey 
baby food now, but he  still is extremely tired and now he has balance 
troubles.   What I am most upset with was the lack of information  from my 
vet and the animal hospital. When told about the  blood transfusion by my 
normal vet, she made it sound  like he'd be back at a healthy level and that 
it could work  for months and that it was perfectly safe. When we were  
handing him over to the vet at the hospital, he finally told  me that Mr. 
Darcy could die during the procedure and that  it may only last a few hours, 
days. I am furious. It makes  me feel like money is more important then 
informing the  owner.  I have decided to not do any more transfusions due to 
the  fact that he's in the last stage of his illness and going to  the vet 
really stresses him out. He won't eat for the rest of  the day and since the 
transfusion may only give him days,  I would rather have him enjoy his last 
days/weeks. So  right now, we're at the point where the most we can do is  
get him to eat and sleep and to pet him and love him as  much as we can.  
Now, your cat may have a different experience, but I just  wanted to tell my 
story.  Jennifer and Mr. Darcy 
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