Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Amani Oakley
Everything we tested was positive, and Zander most certainly had FeLV. 
Interestingly enough, when I was able to successfully treat him with the 
Winstrol/Doxy/Prednisone protocol, later vets started musing that perhaps he 
never had FeLV. After all, they certainly couldn't admit that a drug they had 
discounted due to its supposed propensity to damage the liver, was an effective 
treatment for FeLV. When Zander began responding to the treatment, against all 
expectations, some of the vets preferred to question the diagnosis.

Amani

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: July-24-17 2:47 PM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

And The IFA test was also positive?  Skylar tested positive since he had him 
which is almost 2 years.   

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

We were sure all sorts of bad things were going to happen after we found out 
that Zander was FeLV+. Not only didn't any of the others contract it, but he 
was very close to several of them and would cuddle and mutually groom each 
other. At first, this made me very anxious and I would separate them, but 
again, as they had been doing this for months BEFORE the FeLV diagnosis, I 
figured if they were going to get the virus, they would have gotten it by then. 
Nothing happened. I had found one kitten, during the time we had Zander, so we 
kept her isolated in a bathroom until we could find a home for her. She was and 
still is just fine. We didn't use any particularly clever method to keep them 
apart - the kitten just stayed in my husband's bathroom until I lined up a home.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: July-24-17 2:40 PM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

Skylar seems to want to wrestle last time I let him out and I was afraid so I 
let him run and I run behind him.  I guess I could keep doing that and keep him 
away from the FIV one.  I feel so bad for him.  He is alone and he hates the 
dog so he has no one but me.  Thanks for telling me, I will try different 
things.  
-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

Sheila

I had a FeLV positive boy (Zander) for seven years with all my other cats. No 
one else got it. By the time we figured out he was FeLV positive, he had been 
with my other cats for more than a year, so I figured that any harm that was 
going to be done, had already been done. Since then, I have looked into this 
online, and from what I am reading, FeLV cats don't really pass the virus on to 
other adults all that readily, and the main risk is to young kittens. Even 
then, the virus is not a hardy one and doesn't survive long in a cat's 
environment. 

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: July-24-17 9:04 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

So you believe the vaccine does work then?  I thought about getting it for all 
13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated.  Thanks for the 
info 

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Marlene Snowman
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non.  The 7 year 
old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The 
Felv has no visual signs of illness.  I maintain separate litter boxes that get 
cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not 
affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play 
together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of 
life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work 
for them and my husband and I.  So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that 
this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make 
the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset.

My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.wresting with the 
decision to introduce or not is a tough one. 

M

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> 
> I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does anyone 
> have 

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
And The IFA test was also positive?  Skylar tested positive since he had him 
which is almost 2 years.   

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

We were sure all sorts of bad things were going to happen after we found out 
that Zander was FeLV+. Not only didn't any of the others contract it, but he 
was very close to several of them and would cuddle and mutually groom each 
other. At first, this made me very anxious and I would separate them, but 
again, as they had been doing this for months BEFORE the FeLV diagnosis, I 
figured if they were going to get the virus, they would have gotten it by then. 
Nothing happened. I had found one kitten, during the time we had Zander, so we 
kept her isolated in a bathroom until we could find a home for her. She was and 
still is just fine. We didn't use any particularly clever method to keep them 
apart - the kitten just stayed in my husband's bathroom until I lined up a home.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: July-24-17 2:40 PM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

Skylar seems to want to wrestle last time I let him out and I was afraid so I 
let him run and I run behind him.  I guess I could keep doing that and keep him 
away from the FIV one.  I feel so bad for him.  He is alone and he hates the 
dog so he has no one but me.  Thanks for telling me, I will try different 
things.  
-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

Sheila

I had a FeLV positive boy (Zander) for seven years with all my other cats. No 
one else got it. By the time we figured out he was FeLV positive, he had been 
with my other cats for more than a year, so I figured that any harm that was 
going to be done, had already been done. Since then, I have looked into this 
online, and from what I am reading, FeLV cats don't really pass the virus on to 
other adults all that readily, and the main risk is to young kittens. Even 
then, the virus is not a hardy one and doesn't survive long in a cat's 
environment. 

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: July-24-17 9:04 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

So you believe the vaccine does work then?  I thought about getting it for all 
13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated.  Thanks for the 
info 

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Marlene Snowman
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non.  The 7 year 
old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The 
Felv has no visual signs of illness.  I maintain separate litter boxes that get 
cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not 
affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play 
together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of 
life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work 
for them and my husband and I.  So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that 
this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make 
the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset.

My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.wresting with the 
decision to introduce or not is a tough one. 

M

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> 
> I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does anyone 
> have their FELV cat around non-felv cats?  I thought about letting Skylar out 
> only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats.  But I have a 
> FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs 
> and cause more harm.  My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him 
> indoor.I don't think he can be near the FIV cat.  Thanks for any info 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
> 
> Hi Sheila...
> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) 
> that

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Amani Oakley
We were sure all sorts of bad things were going to happen after we found out 
that Zander was FeLV+. Not only didn't any of the others contract it, but he 
was very close to several of them and would cuddle and mutually groom each 
other. At first, this made me very anxious and I would separate them, but 
again, as they had been doing this for months BEFORE the FeLV diagnosis, I 
figured if they were going to get the virus, they would have gotten it by then. 
Nothing happened. I had found one kitten, during the time we had Zander, so we 
kept her isolated in a bathroom until we could find a home for her. She was and 
still is just fine. We didn't use any particularly clever method to keep them 
apart - the kitten just stayed in my husband's bathroom until I lined up a home.

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: July-24-17 2:40 PM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

Skylar seems to want to wrestle last time I let him out and I was afraid so I 
let him run and I run behind him.  I guess I could keep doing that and keep him 
away from the FIV one.  I feel so bad for him.  He is alone and he hates the 
dog so he has no one but me.  Thanks for telling me, I will try different 
things.  
-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

Sheila

I had a FeLV positive boy (Zander) for seven years with all my other cats. No 
one else got it. By the time we figured out he was FeLV positive, he had been 
with my other cats for more than a year, so I figured that any harm that was 
going to be done, had already been done. Since then, I have looked into this 
online, and from what I am reading, FeLV cats don't really pass the virus on to 
other adults all that readily, and the main risk is to young kittens. Even 
then, the virus is not a hardy one and doesn't survive long in a cat's 
environment. 

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: July-24-17 9:04 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

So you believe the vaccine does work then?  I thought about getting it for all 
13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated.  Thanks for the 
info 

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Marlene Snowman
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non.  The 7 year 
old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The 
Felv has no visual signs of illness.  I maintain separate litter boxes that get 
cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not 
affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play 
together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of 
life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work 
for them and my husband and I.  So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that 
this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make 
the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset.

My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.wresting with the 
decision to introduce or not is a tough one. 

M

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> 
> I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does anyone 
> have their FELV cat around non-felv cats?  I thought about letting Skylar out 
> only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats.  But I have a 
> FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs 
> and cause more harm.  My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him 
> indoor.I don't think he can be near the FIV cat.  Thanks for any info 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
> 
> Hi Sheila...
> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) 
> that is a lot of cats to look after
> and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them fosters???
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
> wrote:
> 
>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to
>>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Skylar seems to want to wrestle last time I let him out and I was afraid so I 
let him run and I run behind him.  I guess I could keep doing that and keep him 
away from the FIV one.  I feel so bad for him.  He is alone and he hates the 
dog so he has no one but me.  Thanks for telling me, I will try different 
things.  
-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Amani 
Oakley
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 2:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

Sheila

I had a FeLV positive boy (Zander) for seven years with all my other cats. No 
one else got it. By the time we figured out he was FeLV positive, he had been 
with my other cats for more than a year, so I figured that any harm that was 
going to be done, had already been done. Since then, I have looked into this 
online, and from what I am reading, FeLV cats don't really pass the virus on to 
other adults all that readily, and the main risk is to young kittens. Even 
then, the virus is not a hardy one and doesn't survive long in a cat's 
environment. 

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: July-24-17 9:04 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

So you believe the vaccine does work then?  I thought about getting it for all 
13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated.  Thanks for the 
info 

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Marlene Snowman
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non.  The 7 year 
old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The 
Felv has no visual signs of illness.  I maintain separate litter boxes that get 
cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not 
affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play 
together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of 
life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work 
for them and my husband and I.  So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that 
this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make 
the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset.

My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.wresting with the 
decision to introduce or not is a tough one. 

M

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> 
> I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does anyone 
> have their FELV cat around non-felv cats?  I thought about letting Skylar out 
> only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats.  But I have a 
> FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs 
> and cause more harm.  My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him 
> indoor.I don't think he can be near the FIV cat.  Thanks for any info 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
> 
> Hi Sheila...
> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) 
> that is a lot of cats to look after
> and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them fosters???
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
> wrote:
> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Amani Oakley
Sheila

I had a FeLV positive boy (Zander) for seven years with all my other cats. No 
one else got it. By the time we figured out he was FeLV positive, he had been 
with my other cats for more than a year, so I figured that any harm that was 
going to be done, had already been done. Since then, I have looked into this 
online, and from what I am reading, FeLV cats don't really pass the virus on to 
other adults all that readily, and the main risk is to young kittens. Even 
then, the virus is not a hardy one and doesn't survive long in a cat's 
environment. 

Amani

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: July-24-17 9:04 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

So you believe the vaccine does work then?  I thought about getting it for all 
13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated.  Thanks for the 
info 

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Marlene Snowman
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non.  The 7 year 
old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The 
Felv has no visual signs of illness.  I maintain separate litter boxes that get 
cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not 
affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play 
together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of 
life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work 
for them and my husband and I.  So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that 
this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make 
the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset.

My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.wresting with the 
decision to introduce or not is a tough one. 

M

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> 
> I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does anyone 
> have their FELV cat around non-felv cats?  I thought about letting Skylar out 
> only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats.  But I have a 
> FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs 
> and cause more harm.  My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him 
> indoor.I don't think he can be near the FIV cat.  Thanks for any info 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
> 
> Hi Sheila...
> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) 
> that is a lot of cats to look after
> and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them fosters???
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
> wrote:
> 
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>> 
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>> 
>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her 
>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus 
>> I took another
>> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too
>> :).
>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < 
>> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>> 
>

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
My 2nd job at the vet gives me a break on all the medicines and neutered and if 
we find kittens, he will take them and we adopt them out.  it's a full time job 
with all these animals.  My husband takes care of them when I work my long days 
 

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 1:16 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

I am lucky, found a vet who goes along with me especially re:  felv treatment.
 Sandy <swacht1...@comcast.net> wrote: 
> 
> It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet 
> seems to have a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in school 
> and unless they seek to know more and better info continue with the 
> same practices and opinions- such as the "yearly" vaccine protocol. I 
> guess it's like each one has to do for our own health care - be 
> informed and take charge. And, it's not easy
> 
> Sandy
> - Original Message -
> 
> From: "Marlene Snowman" <tessie1...@icloud.com>
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:46:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. 
> 
> My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 percent 
> effective and that an older cat with an established immune system has more 
> chances. Who really knows 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> > <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote: 
> > 
> > So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting 
> > it for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV 
> > separated. Thanks for the info
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
> > Behalf Of Marlene Snowman
> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. 
> > 
> > I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 
> > year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains 
> > negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate 
> > litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also 
> > cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each 
> > other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 
> > 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, 
> > you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So far 
> > I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing 
> > what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would 
> > have been sicker at the onset. 
> > 
> > My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.wresting with the 
> > decision to introduce or not is a tough one. 
> > 
> > M
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone
> > 
> >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> >> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does 
> >> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about 
> >> letting Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with 
> >> the regular cats. But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats 
> >> and not sure if they would pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv 
> >> has no signs of illness since he was moved him indoor. I don't 
> >> think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info
> >> 
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
> >> Behalf Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. 
> >> 
> >> Hi Sheila... 
> >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) 
> >> that is a lot of cats to look after and the expense could get 
> >> rather overwhelming. are some of them fosters???
> >> 
> >> Bob
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, 
> >> felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
> >> wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to 
> >>> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>> 
> >>> To subscribe or unsub

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread dlgegg
I am lucky, found a vet who goes along with me especially re:  felv treatment.
 Sandy <swacht1...@comcast.net> wrote: 
> 
> It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet seems to 
> have a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in school and unless they 
> seek to know more and better info continue with the same practices and 
> opinions- such as the "yearly" vaccine protocol. I guess it's like each one 
> has to do for our own health care - be informed and take charge. And, it's 
> not easy 
> 
> Sandy 
> - Original Message -
> 
> From: "Marlene Snowman" <tessie1...@icloud.com> 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:46:04 AM 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. 
> 
> My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 percent 
> effective and that an older cat with an established immune system has more 
> chances. Who really knows 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
> > On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> > <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote: 
> > 
> > So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it for 
> > all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated. Thanks 
> > for the info 
> > 
> > -Original Message- 
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> > Marlene Snowman 
> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM 
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. 
> > 
> > I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 
> > year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains 
> > negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate 
> > litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also 
> > cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each 
> > other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 
> > 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, 
> > you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I. So far 
> > I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing 
> > what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would 
> > have been sicker at the onset. 
> > 
> > My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.wresting with the 
> > decision to introduce or not is a tough one. 
> > 
> > M 
> > 
> > Sent from my iPhone 
> > 
> >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> >> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote: 
> >> 
> >> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone 
> >> have their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar 
> >> out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I 
> >> have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would 
> >> pass germs and cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he 
> >> was moved him indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for 
> >> any info 
> >> 
> >> -Original Message- 
> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL 
> >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM 
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. 
> >> 
> >> Hi Sheila... 
> >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) 
> >> that is a lot of cats to look after 
> >> and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them 
> >> fosters??? 
> >> 
> >> Bob 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org 
> >> wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to 
> >>> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> >>> 
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> >>> 
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> >>> g 
> >>> 
> >>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to 
> >>> felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org 
> >>> 
> >>> You can reach the person managing the list at 
> >>> felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org 
> >>> 
> >>> 

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread dlgegg
I get a lot of drop offs too.  People seem to think that left in a farming 
area, they can fend for themselves, even the de clawed ones.  
 "Armstrong-Brown wrote: 
> No one helps me Bob.  I started a 2nd job at an animal hospital so I can get 
> the discount on all the cats.  It's still very expensive.  No fosters, they 
> stray in to the farm and people drop off sickly animals and all the humane 
> society would say is that if I turned the cats in to them, they would be put 
> down.  So until I can't afford to eat, I just get them spayed, neutered and 
> healthy again and I just keep them.  14 are indoors.  The sickly and sweet 
> ones I always bring in .  Glad I have a big house.   
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
> 
> Hi Sheila...
> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) 
> that is a lot of cats to look after
> and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them fosters???
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
> wrote:
> 
> > Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to
> > felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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> >
> > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> > felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
> >
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> >
> > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific 
> > than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..."
> >
> >
> > Today's Topics:
> >
> >1. Re: Checking in. (Pam Doore)
> >2. Re: Checking in. (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila   DDS Timonium)
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Message: 1
> > Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400
> > From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
> > Message-ID:
> > 
> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >
> > I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her 
> > kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I 
> > took another
> > FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too
> > :).
> > On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < 
> > sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> >
> >> No, he said it was no big deal at all.  I just worry.  This is my 
> >> first FELV cat.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On 
> >> Behalf
> >> Of *Pam Doore
> >> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM
> >> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol?
> >>
> >> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <
> >> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> >>
> >> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him.  I get bloodwork 
> >> every 6
> >> months and I thought it was odd too.
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> >> Of
> >> dlg...@windstream.net
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
> >>
> >> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested.
> >> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard
> >> anything.
> >>
> >>  Amani Oakley  wrote:
> >>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in 
> >>> cats
> >> (and being called into question in humans too).
> >>>
> >>> Amani
> >>>
> >>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
> >>> Behalf
> >>> Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
> >>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM
> >>> To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
> &g

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread dlgegg
I have mixed positive and negative cats for years and no negatives have 
contracted the disease.  They share beds (mine) bowls and boxes.  At first when 
the negatives were young, I had them vacinnated, now I do not they are all at 
least 13 years old.

 Marlene Snowman <tessie1...@icloud.com> wrote: 
> I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non.  The 7 
> year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains 
> negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness.  I maintain separate 
> litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned 
> daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, 
> although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year 
> old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 
> 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I.  So far I've been 
> lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now 
> know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would have been 
> sicker at the onset.
> 
> My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.wresting with the 
> decision to introduce or not is a tough one. 
> 
> M
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> > On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> > <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> > 
> > I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does anyone 
> > have their FELV cat around non-felv cats?  I thought about letting Skylar 
> > out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats.  But I 
> > have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass 
> > germs and cause more harm.  My Felv has no signs of illness since he was 
> > moved him indoor.I don't think he can be near the FIV cat.  Thanks for 
> > any info 
> > 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> > ROBERT CHAPEL
> > Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
> > 
> > Hi Sheila...
> > Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) 
> > that is a lot of cats to look after
> > and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them 
> > fosters???
> > 
> > Bob
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
> > wrote:
> > 
> >> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to
> >>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> 
> >> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit
> >> 
> >> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
> >> 
> >> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
> >>felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
> >> 
> >> You can reach the person managing the list at
> >>felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org
> >> 
> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific 
> >> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..."
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Today's Topics:
> >> 
> >>   1. Re: Checking in. (Pam Doore)
> >>   2. Re: Checking in. (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila   DDS Timonium)
> >> 
> >> 
> >> --
> >> 
> >> Message: 1
> >> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400
> >> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
> >> Message-ID:
> >>
> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
> >> 
> >> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her 
> >> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I 
> >> took another
> >> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too
> >> :).
> >> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < 
> >> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> >> 
> >>> No, he said it was no big deal at all.  I just worry.  This is my 
> >>> first FELV cat.
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> 
> >>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On 
> >>> Behalf
> >>> Of *Pam Doore
> >>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM
> >>> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>> *Su

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Sandy

It seems to me, each one of us has a different vet - and each vet seems to have 
a differing opinion - it's what they "learned" in school and unless they seek 
to know more and better info continue with the same practices and opinions- 
such as the "yearly" vaccine protocol. I guess it's like each one has to do for 
our own health care - be informed and take charge. And, it's not easy 

Sandy 
- Original Message -

From: "Marlene Snowman" <tessie1...@icloud.com> 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 9:46:04 AM 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. 

My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 percent 
effective and that an older cat with an established immune system has more 
chances. Who really knows 

Sent from my iPhone 

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote: 
> 
> So you believe the vaccine does work then? I thought about getting it for all 
> 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated. Thanks for 
> the info 
> 
> -Original Message- 
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Marlene Snowman 
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM 
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. 
> 
> I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non. The 7 year 
> old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. 
> The Felv has no visual signs of illness. I maintain separate litter boxes 
> that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They 
> are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do 
> play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting 
> quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need 
> this to work for them and my husband and I. So far I've been lucky and I am 
> grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not 
> sure I would make the same decision if one would have been sicker at the 
> onset. 
> 
> My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.wresting with the 
> decision to introduce or not is a tough one. 
> 
> M 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
>> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote: 
>> 
>> I heard the leukemia vaccine carries a high risk of cancer. Does anyone have 
>> their FELV cat around non-felv cats? I thought about letting Skylar out only 
>> while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats. But I have a FIV 
>> cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and 
>> cause more harm. My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him 
>> indoor. I don't think he can be near the FIV cat. Thanks for any info 
>> 
>> -----Original Message- 
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL 
>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM 
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats.. 
>> 
>> Hi Sheila... 
>> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) 
>> that is a lot of cats to look after 
>> and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them 
>> fosters??? 
>> 
>> Bob 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org 
>> wrote: 
>> 
>>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to 
>>> felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>>> 
>>> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit 
>>> 
>>> http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.or 
>>> g 
>>> 
>>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to 
>>> felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org 
>>> 
>>> You can reach the person managing the list at 
>>> felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org 
>>> 
>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific 
>>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Today's Topics: 
>>> 
>>> 1. Re: Checking in. (Pam Doore) 
>>> 2. Re: Checking in. (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium) 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> - 
>>> - 
>>> 
>>> Message: 1 
>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400 
>>> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
>>> S

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
I have the same set up,  a door with plexi so he can see the other animals.  He 
has a bed and tv and 2 big rooms to run around, I just feel bad that he is 
alone most of the time until I get home and we watch TV together for acouple.  
I am scared of that vaccines b/c of the dangers I hear about.   

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 11:43 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

Sheila, my 2 cents- 
- for me -  it's not just spreading the FeLV to others, it the autoimmune 
problem of not being able to fight off viruses or diseases that they could get 
from other cats.
I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we replaced the 
door with another re-engineered door. The replacement door bottom panel we 
replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the other cats in the house, and 
the top panel with a screen door screen guard panel for air and to get house 
sounds. He uses the plexiglas as a drum-especially when he wants attention!

I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 years- have my 
own easy chair and large screen tv :)

That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and entertainment- 
he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I have inside!

•Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a variety of 
brands- and fresh water
•Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by law
•Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if life & 
death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on retirement funds 
•Pray: a lot
Will be praying for Robert too!




-g 
Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> 
> I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does anyone 
> have their FELV cat around non-felv cats?  I thought about letting Skylar out 
> only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats.  But I have a 
> FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs 
> and cause more harm.  My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him 
> indoor.I don't think he can be near the FIV cat.  Thanks for any info 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
> 
> Hi Sheila...
> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) 
> that is a lot of cats to look after
> and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them fosters???
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
> wrote:
> 
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>> 
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>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..."
>> 
>> 
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>> 
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Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Gloria
Sheila, my 2 cents- 
- for me -  it's not just spreading the FeLV to others, it the autoimmune 
problem of not being able to fight off viruses or diseases that they could get 
from other cats.
I have Buddy in our guest room - in a controlled environment- we replaced the 
door with another re-engineered door. The replacement door bottom panel we 
replaced with clear plexiglas so he can see the other cats in the house, and 
the top panel with a screen door screen guard panel for air and to get house 
sounds. He uses the plexiglas as a drum-especially when he wants attention!

I have spent at least 2 hours with him each night for the last 5 years- have my 
own easy chair and large screen tv :)

That's the remedy I came up with so he gets plenty of loving and entertainment- 
he's probably the healthiest of all the other 14 I have inside!

•Food: no junk food, both wet and no-grain kibble -that includes a variety of 
brands- and fresh water
•Vaccine: wouldn't touch it - I don't use vaccines unless required by law
•Stress: I keep it as low as possible, that means only vet trips if life & 
death- can't afford routine visits because we're living on retirement funds 
•Pray: a lot
Will be praying for Robert too!




-g 
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> On Jul 24, 2017, at 5:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> 
> I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does anyone 
> have their FELV cat around non-felv cats?  I thought about letting Skylar out 
> only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats.  But I have a 
> FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs 
> and cause more harm.  My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him 
> indoor.I don't think he can be near the FIV cat.  Thanks for any info 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
> 
> Hi Sheila...
> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) 
> that is a lot of cats to look after
> and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them fosters???
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
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> wrote:
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Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Thank you . I love them all but a vacation one year might be nice.  Too many 
animals to leave and go away.  I don’t trust many to actually be able to 
medicine the ones that need it.  Just the soft food is $60 a week.  Besides the 
25 pounds of dry food.

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sheri 
Burbridge
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 10:27 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..


Sheila, in my (completely unprofessional) opinion, the vaccine is a good idea 
for your cats that are currently healthy.

If it were me, I'd keep the FIV and FeLV separated just because they already 
have compromised immune systems and any illness they come in contact with could 
really be devastating. Also, the less stressed your FeLV cat is, the better off 
they will be.

Thank you for taking in so many sick and unwanted animals, they are certainly 
lucky to have found their way to your home!

Sheri

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 9:46 AM Marlene Snowman 
<tessie1...@icloud.com<mailto:tessie1...@icloud.com>> wrote:
My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 percent 
effective and that an older cat with an established immune system has more 
chances. Who really knows

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov<mailto:sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov>> wrote:
>
> So you believe the vaccine does work then?  I thought about getting it for 
> all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated.  Thanks 
> for the info
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk 
> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
>  On Behalf Of Marlene Snowman
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
>
> I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non.  The 7 
> year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains 
> negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness.  I maintain separate 
> litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned 
> daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, 
> although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year 
> old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 
> 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I.  So far I've been 
> lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now 
> know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would have been 
> sicker at the onset.
>
> My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.wresting with the 
> decision to introduce or not is a tough one.
>
> M
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
>> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov<mailto:sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>> I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does anyone 
>> have their FELV cat around non-felv cats?  I thought about letting Skylar 
>> out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats.  But I 
>> have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass 
>> germs and cause more harm.  My Felv has no signs of illness since he was 
>> moved him indoor.I don't think he can be near the FIV cat.  Thanks for 
>> any info
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Felvtalk 
>> [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org>]
>>  On Behalf
>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk@felineleukemia.org>
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
>>
>> Hi Sheila...
>> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses)
>> that is a lot of cats to look after
>> and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them 
>> fosters???
>>
>> Bob
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, 
>> felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org<mailto:felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org>
>> wrote:
>>
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Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Sheri Burbridge
Sheila, in my (completely unprofessional) opinion, the vaccine is a good
idea for your cats that are currently healthy.

If it were me, I'd keep the FIV and FeLV separated just because they
already have compromised immune systems and any illness they come in
contact with could really be devastating. Also, the less stressed your FeLV
cat is, the better off they will be.

Thank you for taking in so many sick and unwanted animals, they are
certainly lucky to have found their way to your home!

Sheri

On Mon, Jul 24, 2017, 9:46 AM Marlene Snowman <tessie1...@icloud.com> wrote:

> My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100
> percent effective and that an older cat with an established immune system
> has more chances. Who really knows
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium <
> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> >
> > So you believe the vaccine does work then?  I thought about getting it
> for all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated.
> Thanks for the info
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> Of Marlene Snowman
> > Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
> >
> > I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non.  The
> 7 year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains
> negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness.  I maintain separate
> litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also
> cleaned daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each
> other, although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the
> 2 year old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said,
> you have 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I.  So
> far I've been lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them.
> Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one
> would have been sicker at the onset.
> >
> > My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.wresting with the
> decision to introduce or not is a tough one.
> >
> > M
> >
> > Sent from my iPhone
> >
> >> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium <
> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> >>
> >> I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does
> anyone have their FELV cat around non-felv cats?  I thought about letting
> Skylar out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats.
> But I have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they
> would pass germs and cause more harm.  My Felv has no signs of illness
> since he was moved him indoor.I don't think he can be near the FIV
> cat.  Thanks for any info
> >>
> >> -Original Message-
> >> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf
> >> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> >> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
> >>
> >> Hi Sheila...
> >> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses)
> >> that is a lot of cats to look after
> >> and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them
> fosters???
> >>
> >> Bob
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
> >> wrote:
> >>
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> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>>  2. Re: Checking in. (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila   DDS Timonium)
> >>>
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Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Marlene Snowman
My vet believes so although has made it clear that no vaccine is 100 percent 
effective and that an older cat with an established immune system has more 
chances. Who really knows

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 10:03 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> 
> So you believe the vaccine does work then?  I thought about getting it for 
> all 13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated.  Thanks 
> for the info 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> Marlene Snowman
> Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
> 
> I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non.  The 7 
> year old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains 
> negative. The Felv has no visual signs of illness.  I maintain separate 
> litter boxes that get cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned 
> daily. They are not affectionate with one another or groom each other, 
> although they do play together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year 
> old is getting quality of life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 
> 2 cats and need this to work for them and my husband and I.  So far I've been 
> lucky and I am grateful that this is going well for them. Knowing what I now 
> know, I'm not sure I would make the same decision if one would have been 
> sicker at the onset.
> 
> My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.wresting with the 
> decision to introduce or not is a tough one. 
> 
> M
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
>> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>> 
>> I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does anyone 
>> have their FELV cat around non-felv cats?  I thought about letting Skylar 
>> out only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats.  But I 
>> have a FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass 
>> germs and cause more harm.  My Felv has no signs of illness since he was 
>> moved him indoor.I don't think he can be near the FIV cat.  Thanks for 
>> any info 
>> 
>> -Original Message-----
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
>> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
>> 
>> Hi Sheila...
>> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) 
>> that is a lot of cats to look after
>> and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them 
>> fosters???
>> 
>> Bob
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to
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>>> g
>>> 
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>>>   felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
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>>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific 
>>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..."
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>>> 
>>> Today's Topics:
>>> 
>>>  1. Re: Checking in. (Pam Doore)
>>>  2. Re: Checking in. (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila   DDS Timonium)
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -
>>> -
>>> 
>>> Message: 1
>>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400
>>> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>>> Message-ID:
>>> 
>>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>>> 
>>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her 
>>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus 
>>> I took another
>>> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too
>>> :).
>>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < 
>>> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> No, he said it was 

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
So you believe the vaccine does work then?  I thought about getting it for all 
13 indoors but I want to still keep the FIV and FELV separated.  Thanks for the 
info 

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Marlene Snowman
Sent: Monday, July 24, 2017 8:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non.  The 7 year 
old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The 
Felv has no visual signs of illness.  I maintain separate litter boxes that get 
cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not 
affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play 
together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of 
life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work 
for them and my husband and I.  So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that 
this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make 
the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset.

My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.wresting with the 
decision to introduce or not is a tough one. 

M

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> 
> I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does anyone 
> have their FELV cat around non-felv cats?  I thought about letting Skylar out 
> only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats.  But I have a 
> FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs 
> and cause more harm.  My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him 
> indoor.I don't think he can be near the FIV cat.  Thanks for any info 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
> 
> Hi Sheila...
> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) 
> that is a lot of cats to look after
> and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them fosters???
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
> wrote:
> 
>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to
>>felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> 
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>> g
>> 
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
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>> 
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>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..."
>> 
>> 
>> Today's Topics:
>> 
>>   1. Re: Checking in. (Pam Doore)
>>   2. Re: Checking in. (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila   DDS Timonium)
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> -
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400
>> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her 
>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus 
>> I took another
>> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too
>> :).
>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < 
>> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>> 
>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all.  I just worry.  This is my 
>>> first FELV cat.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On 
>>> Behalf Of *Pam Doore
>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM
>>> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol?
>>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < 
>>> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him.  I get bloodwork 
>>&

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Marlene Snowman
I have a Felv 2 year old who I did introduce to my 7 year old non.  The 7 year 
old has been vaccinated and retested over the 2 years and remains negative. The 
Felv has no visual signs of illness.  I maintain separate litter boxes that get 
cleaned daily and separate dishes that are also cleaned daily. They are not 
affectionate with one another or groom each other, although they do play 
together. It warms my heart to think that the 2 year old is getting quality of 
life despite the illness. As my vet said, you have 2 cats and need this to work 
for them and my husband and I.  So far I've been lucky and I am grateful that 
this is going well for them. Knowing what I now know, I'm not sure I would make 
the same decision if one would have been sicker at the onset.

My experience and these 2 may just be lucky so far.wresting with the 
decision to introduce or not is a tough one. 

M

Sent from my iPhone

> On Jul 24, 2017, at 9:12 AM, Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium 
> <sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
> 
> I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does anyone 
> have their FELV cat around non-felv cats?  I thought about letting Skylar out 
> only while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats.  But I have a 
> FIV cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs 
> and cause more harm.  My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him 
> indoor.I don't think he can be near the FIV cat.  Thanks for any info 
> 
> -Original Message-
> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
> ROBERT CHAPEL
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..
> 
> Hi Sheila...
> Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) 
> that is a lot of cats to look after
> and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them fosters???
> 
> Bob
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 21, 2017 at 10:06 AM, felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
> wrote:
> 
>> Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to
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>> 
>> or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to
>>felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org
>> 
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>> 
>> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific 
>> than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..."
>> 
>> 
>> Today's Topics:
>> 
>>   1. Re: Checking in. (Pam Doore)
>>   2. Re: Checking in. (Armstrong-Brown, Sheila   DDS Timonium)
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> 
>> Message: 1
>> Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400
>> From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>> Message-ID:
>>
>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>> 
>> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her 
>> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I 
>> took another
>> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too
>> :).
>> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < 
>> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>> 
>>> No, he said it was no big deal at all.  I just worry.  This is my 
>>> first FELV cat.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of *Pam Doore
>>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM
>>> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol?
>>> 
>>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <
>>> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>>> 
>>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him.  I get bloodwork 
>>> every 6
>>> months and I thought it was odd too.
>>> 
>>> -Original Message-
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Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
I heard the leukemia  vaccine carries a high risk of cancer.  Does anyone have 
their FELV cat around non-felv cats?  I thought about letting Skylar out only 
while I am home and see how it goes with the regular cats.  But I have a FIV 
cat in the mix of the other cats and not sure if they would pass germs and 
cause more harm.  My Felv has no signs of illness since he was moved him 
indoor.I don't think he can be near the FIV cat.  Thanks for any info 

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT 
CHAPEL
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

Hi Sheila...
Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) 
that is a lot of cats to look after
and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them fosters???

Bob


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> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her 
> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I 
> took another
> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too
> :).
> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < 
> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>
>> No, he said it was no big deal at all.  I just worry.  This is my 
>> first FELV cat.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On 
>> Behalf
>> Of *Pam Doore
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM
>> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol?
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <
>> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>>
>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him.  I get bloodwork 
>> every 6
>> months and I thought it was odd too.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of
>> dlg...@windstream.net
>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>>
>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested.
>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard
>> anything.
>>
>>  Amani Oakley  wrote:
>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in 
>>> cats
>> (and being called into question in humans too).
>>>
>>> Amani
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM
>>> To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>>>
>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back 
>>> great.
>> High cholesterol is all.  No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 
>> years
>> old, I hope he is around a long time.
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>>>
>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once 
>>> again
>> not getting group mail
>>> Has there been activity I've missed??
>>&g

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-24 Thread Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
No one helps me Bob.  I started a 2nd job at an animal hospital so I can get 
the discount on all the cats.  It's still very expensive.  No fosters, they 
stray in to the farm and people drop off sickly animals and all the humane 
society would say is that if I turned the cats in to them, they would be put 
down.  So until I can't afford to eat, I just get them spayed, neutered and 
healthy again and I just keep them.  14 are indoors.  The sickly and sweet ones 
I always bring in .  Glad I have a big house.   

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of ROBERT 
CHAPEL
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2017 3:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

Hi Sheila...
Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) 
that is a lot of cats to look after
and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them fosters???

Bob


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> I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her 
> kittens. One kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I 
> took another
> FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too
> :).
> On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" < 
> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>
>> No, he said it was no big deal at all.  I just worry.  This is my 
>> first FELV cat.
>>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On 
>> Behalf
>> Of *Pam Doore
>> *Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM
>> *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol?
>>
>> On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <
>> sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:
>>
>> It was part of a blood panel I had done on him.  I get bloodwork 
>> every 6
>> months and I thought it was odd too.
>>
>> -Original Message-
>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
>> Of
>> dlg...@windstream.net
>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM
>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>>
>> I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested.
>> i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard
>> anything.
>>
>>  Amani Oakley  wrote:
>>> It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in 
>>> cats
>> (and being called into question in humans too).
>>>
>>> Amani
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
>>> Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM
>>> To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
>>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>>>
>>> My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back 
>>> great.
>> High cholesterol is all.  No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 
>> years
>> old, I hope he is around a long time.
>>>
>>> From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
>>> Behalf
>>> Of ROBERT CHAPEL
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM
>>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
>>> Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
>>>
>>> Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once 
>>> again
>> not getting group mail
>

Re: [Felvtalk] 28 Cats..

2017-07-21 Thread ROBERT CHAPEL

Hi Sheila...
Wonder if you have anyone helping you with Cat Care ( or expenses) 
that is a lot of cats to look after
and the expense could get rather overwhelming. are some of them 
fosters???


Bob


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Date: Fri, 21 Jul 2017 09:38:42 -0400
From: Pam Doore To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"

I understand Sheila! I have my first too, actually Mom and her 
kittens. One

kitten passed away.and the other is 15 months old. Plus I took another
FeLv+ cat from out shelter. I will probably end up adopting her too 
:).

On Jul 21, 2017 8:34 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <
sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:

No, he said it was no big deal at all.  I just worry.  This is my 
first

FELV cat.



*From:* Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On 
Behalf

Of *Pam Doore
*Sent:* Friday, July 21, 2017 8:21 AM
*To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
*Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.



Sheila did your vet seem concerned about the higher cholesterol?

On Jul 21, 2017 7:44 AM, "Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium" <
sheila.armstrong-br...@ssa.gov> wrote:

It was part of a blood panel I had done on him.  I get bloodwork 
every 6

months and I thought it was odd too.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
Of

dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 6:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.

I have never had anyone tell me my cats needed cholesterol tested.
i was beginning to wonder if the list was still there, had not heard
anything.

 Amani Oakley  wrote:
It if were me, I would ignore the cholesterol. It is nonsensical in 
cats

(and being called into question in humans too).


Amani

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
Behalf

Of Armstrong-Brown, Sheila DDS Timonium
Sent: July-20-17 10:37 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Checking in.

My son Skylar is doing well and his 6 month bloodwork came back 
great.
High cholesterol is all.  No idea why that would be. He is now 2 1/2 
years

old, I hope he is around a long time.


From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On 
Behalf

Of ROBERT CHAPEL
Sent: Thursday, July 20, 2017 10:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Checking in.

Things have been very quiet on the group lately...OR... I am once 
again

not getting group mail

Has there been activity I've missed??
My Hospice Boy ( Gilbert) is doing quite well for the moment but ( 
as we
all know with such things it could change any minute...so I'll just 
enjoy
it while it's happening)Wondering if any of you have 
experience
with Higher dose Prednisolone administered chronically ( say above 
7.5 mg
QD)...  When I agreed to Foster Gilbert it came with the proviso that 
I
would follow their directions ( Which I will hold to unless I feel 
they are

killing him unnecessarily quickly)  His Tumor does not appear to have
gotten any larger and his pain appears to be pretty well 
controlled
Just wish I knew specifically what is helping the most so I could cut 
down
on superfluous drugscurrently he's on Gabapentin( .4 cc BID if 
pain is
up.. QD if doing OK).. for pain, prednisolone ( 10 mg QD administered 
via

syringe dissolved in milk, Venus Fly Trap SubQ BID ( interesting
substance... bears closer scrutiny...  supposed to have anti tumor
activity) Two other " alternative " medications !
 which I h
 ave suspended only because the poor boy screams bloody murder every 
time
I have to give him something. with a tumor invading his oral 
cavity I

want to keep anything PO to a minimum
Seems that the cats I've had that are _ supposed_ to ( clincally) 
die

don't and the ones that that aren't ..do Hope everyones buddies are

doing reasonably well ( as reasonably well as FeLV Kitties can do)...
Gilbert, as I mentioned, had a traumatic brain injury which has left 
him
with poor balance... but lately he's been insistent on expanding his 
range
and even tried running this