Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey

2011-04-11 Thread dlgegg
I am beginning to think that I have weird cats.  They DO NOT like salmon in 
canned or dry food.  Not even Blue Buffalo goes over with them.  Their all time 
favorite is Duck.  I wish they had a turkey food because they like that when I 
boil turkey thighs for them.


 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 It's available at PetSmart: 
 http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3159399 - I like that it
 comes in Wild Salmon flavor, cats definitely prefer that!
 I also heard that stomatitis may be related to rodent ulcers in cats.
 Natalie
 
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 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Tracey Shrout
 Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:29 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey
 
 Mary Lou, it's been a few days since you posted, but here's what I do for my
 negative with stomatitus. She is an older cat (Allie) who had it when I
 acquired her. The few times I've taken her to the vet, she was given an oral
 antibiotic (because I can't pill her at all) to help with the bacteria and a
 steroid shot. The antibiotic was Convenia. The steroid shot helps
 tremendously with their appetite. I also hate to give them any steroids, but
 the dr. let me know how much pain she may have been in, so I let him give it
 to her. I have read a possible relationship with it compromising the immune
 system, so I probably wouldn't give it to a + cat.
 
 Now what I do personally for her is give her Petzlife Oral Gel. It is only
 when I stop giving her the gel that she has problems with the stomatitus. If
 I stop for a while, thinking she is fine, she will suddenly stop eating and
 sometimes throwup a yellow or green liquid. So, I have learned to keep up
 with the gel, and currently I am giving it to her every night, putting a
 little on my finger and rubbing it on her top front teeth. I am just amazed
 how this stuff works! It has grapefruit seed extract in it that helps keep
 the bacteria down. I buy it online, just google it. It is less than $20, and
 lasts a long long time. This stuff also helped my felv+ kitty who had a
 terrible mouth when I got her.
 
 I didn't know lysine would be good for stomatitus, have doubts about that,
 but I have heard of the bovine lactoferrin. Actually my vet is currently
 looking into that for me as far as cost goes and as a last resort in case
 the oral gel stops working for her in the future. So please try the
 Petzlife, it works for Allie!
 
 Good luck,
 Tracey
 
 On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Mary Lou jerseydevil1...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Okay guys we need your help big time.  Abbey is felu and fel imun
 positive.
  She has stomatitis. Had 14 teeth, roots and all removed 2 wks ago. Mouth
  greatly improved but not all - in the back between upper and lower still
  red.  Not on any meds for now. She will not lick lysine. Am going to try
 to
  water down lysine and get it in her or spread pill powder and mix in food.
  Would mixing bovine interferon maybe help? I am frantic to help her. She
  does not deserve this. Cannot pill. Feeding watered down a/d or baby food
 or
  fancy feast. She has a great appetite until she hits her sore area with a
  piece of food.  She has 10 days til she goes back to the vet. He is
 thinking
  about steriods.  Any ideas of what to do? I really don't want to put her
 on
  steriods unless nothing else to do.  She is the baby that was dumped by my
  great neighbors and they moved leaving her outside with no food or water
 or
  anywhere to sleep unless she crawled under the slab of their house.
   Abbey is the sweetest loving black cat. We apreciate any help you can
  offer. Thank you.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey

2011-04-07 Thread Natalie
It's available at PetSmart: 
http://www.petsmart.com/product/index.jsp?productId=3159399 - I like that it
comes in Wild Salmon flavor, cats definitely prefer that!
I also heard that stomatitis may be related to rodent ulcers in cats.
Natalie

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Tracey Shrout
Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2011 8:29 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey

Mary Lou, it's been a few days since you posted, but here's what I do for my
negative with stomatitus. She is an older cat (Allie) who had it when I
acquired her. The few times I've taken her to the vet, she was given an oral
antibiotic (because I can't pill her at all) to help with the bacteria and a
steroid shot. The antibiotic was Convenia. The steroid shot helps
tremendously with their appetite. I also hate to give them any steroids, but
the dr. let me know how much pain she may have been in, so I let him give it
to her. I have read a possible relationship with it compromising the immune
system, so I probably wouldn't give it to a + cat.

Now what I do personally for her is give her Petzlife Oral Gel. It is only
when I stop giving her the gel that she has problems with the stomatitus. If
I stop for a while, thinking she is fine, she will suddenly stop eating and
sometimes throwup a yellow or green liquid. So, I have learned to keep up
with the gel, and currently I am giving it to her every night, putting a
little on my finger and rubbing it on her top front teeth. I am just amazed
how this stuff works! It has grapefruit seed extract in it that helps keep
the bacteria down. I buy it online, just google it. It is less than $20, and
lasts a long long time. This stuff also helped my felv+ kitty who had a
terrible mouth when I got her.

I didn't know lysine would be good for stomatitus, have doubts about that,
but I have heard of the bovine lactoferrin. Actually my vet is currently
looking into that for me as far as cost goes and as a last resort in case
the oral gel stops working for her in the future. So please try the
Petzlife, it works for Allie!

Good luck,
Tracey

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Mary Lou jerseydevil1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Okay guys we need your help big time.  Abbey is felu and fel imun
positive.
 She has stomatitis. Had 14 teeth, roots and all removed 2 wks ago. Mouth
 greatly improved but not all - in the back between upper and lower still
 red.  Not on any meds for now. She will not lick lysine. Am going to try
to
 water down lysine and get it in her or spread pill powder and mix in food.
 Would mixing bovine interferon maybe help? I am frantic to help her. She
 does not deserve this. Cannot pill. Feeding watered down a/d or baby food
or
 fancy feast. She has a great appetite until she hits her sore area with a
 piece of food.  She has 10 days til she goes back to the vet. He is
thinking
 about steriods.  Any ideas of what to do? I really don't want to put her
on
 steriods unless nothing else to do.  She is the baby that was dumped by my
 great neighbors and they moved leaving her outside with no food or water
or
 anywhere to sleep unless she crawled under the slab of their house.
  Abbey is the sweetest loving black cat. We apreciate any help you can
 offer. Thank you.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey

2011-04-06 Thread Beth
Didn't someone say they had good luck using LCTI (I think that's what it was)
I had great luck with my stomatitis kitty for awhile just using the L-Lysine 
gel. No inflammation for several months.
There is also a Yahoo group just for Stomatitis. They may be better help to you.

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Mon, 4/4/11, Mary Lou jerseydevil1...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Mary Lou jerseydevil1...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Abbey
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, April 4, 2011, 2:11 PM

Okay guys we need your help big time.  Abbey is felu and fel imun positive. She 
has stomatitis. Had 14 teeth, roots and all removed 2 wks ago. Mouth greatly 
improved but not all - in the back between upper and lower still red.  Not on 
any meds for now. She will not lick lysine. Am going to try to water down 
lysine and get it in her or spread pill powder and mix in food. Would mixing 
bovine interferon maybe help? I am frantic to help her. She does not deserve 
this. Cannot pill. Feeding watered down a/d or baby food or fancy feast. She 
has a great appetite until she hits her sore area with a piece of food.  She 
has 10 days til she goes back to the vet. He is thinking about steriods.  Any 
ideas of what to do? I really don't want to put her on steriods unless nothing 
else to do.  She is the baby that was dumped by my great neighbors and they 
moved leaving her outside with no food or water or anywhere to sleep unless she 
crawled under the slab of their
 house.
 Abbey is the sweetest loving black cat. We apreciate any help you can offer. 
Thank you.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey

2011-04-06 Thread Tracey Shrout
Mary Lou, it's been a few days since you posted, but here's what I do for my
negative with stomatitus. She is an older cat (Allie) who had it when I
acquired her. The few times I've taken her to the vet, she was given an oral
antibiotic (because I can't pill her at all) to help with the bacteria and a
steroid shot. The antibiotic was Convenia. The steroid shot helps
tremendously with their appetite. I also hate to give them any steroids, but
the dr. let me know how much pain she may have been in, so I let him give it
to her. I have read a possible relationship with it compromising the immune
system, so I probably wouldn't give it to a + cat.

Now what I do personally for her is give her Petzlife Oral Gel. It is only
when I stop giving her the gel that she has problems with the stomatitus. If
I stop for a while, thinking she is fine, she will suddenly stop eating and
sometimes throwup a yellow or green liquid. So, I have learned to keep up
with the gel, and currently I am giving it to her every night, putting a
little on my finger and rubbing it on her top front teeth. I am just amazed
how this stuff works! It has grapefruit seed extract in it that helps keep
the bacteria down. I buy it online, just google it. It is less than $20, and
lasts a long long time. This stuff also helped my felv+ kitty who had a
terrible mouth when I got her.

I didn't know lysine would be good for stomatitus, have doubts about that,
but I have heard of the bovine lactoferrin. Actually my vet is currently
looking into that for me as far as cost goes and as a last resort in case
the oral gel stops working for her in the future. So please try the
Petzlife, it works for Allie!

Good luck,
Tracey

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Mary Lou jerseydevil1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Okay guys we need your help big time.  Abbey is felu and fel imun positive.
 She has stomatitis. Had 14 teeth, roots and all removed 2 wks ago. Mouth
 greatly improved but not all - in the back between upper and lower still
 red.  Not on any meds for now. She will not lick lysine. Am going to try to
 water down lysine and get it in her or spread pill powder and mix in food.
 Would mixing bovine interferon maybe help? I am frantic to help her. She
 does not deserve this. Cannot pill. Feeding watered down a/d or baby food or
 fancy feast. She has a great appetite until she hits her sore area with a
 piece of food.  She has 10 days til she goes back to the vet. He is thinking
 about steriods.  Any ideas of what to do? I really don't want to put her on
 steriods unless nothing else to do.  She is the baby that was dumped by my
 great neighbors and they moved leaving her outside with no food or water or
 anywhere to sleep unless she crawled under the slab of their house.
  Abbey is the sweetest loving black cat. We apreciate any help you can
 offer. Thank you.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey

2011-04-05 Thread czadna sacarawicz

colostrum?are you meaning powdered milk replacer which is reconstituted for 
baby calves?  comes in a 40 pound bag?
 
thank you.
 
czadna
 
 
 


m


 
 From: maima...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 13:40:26 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey
 
 Have you tried colostrum? I'm a big believer in it...powder, mixes 
 into soft food, buy at the feed/livestock stores.
 On Apr 4, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Mary Lou wrote:
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey

2011-04-05 Thread MaiMaiPG
The first milk replacer to raise immunity usually given to a calf who  
doesn't nurse immediatelynot the regular milk replacer.  They were  
puting it in First Born for cats and dogs but seem to have stopped.   
The bags are maybe a pound or two.  I don't have one here to look at.

On Apr 5, 2011, at 4:30 PM, czadna sacarawicz wrote:



colostrum?are you meaning powdered milk replacer which is  
reconstituted for baby calves?  comes in a 40 pound bag?


thank you.

czadna





m




From: maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Mon, 4 Apr 2011 13:40:26 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey

Have you tried colostrum? I'm a big believer in it...powder, mixes
into soft food, buy at the feed/livestock stores.
On Apr 4, 2011, at 1:11 PM, Mary Lou wrote:



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Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey

2011-04-05 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
She sounds like a lovely, loving girl. I'm sure she's in a lot less pain
from the stomatitis now, and hopefully her mouth will feel better very
shortly. Best of luck to both of you.

Diane R. 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou
Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2011 1:32 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Abbey

Have to wait until 16th. Rick is off on 9th.  He saw her on 2nd- ten days
after 14 teeth pulled.  I can only get her to eat watered down food such as
kitten food, baby food, a/d, some fancy feast.  She sits on my lap and eats
usually.  I got her to eat with a 500 mg lysine mixed in with food twice
now. Will add bovine inteferon also tonight.  She has a good appetite. Rick
said she gained a pound.  I have printed your suggestions and will give them
to him to read.  Thank you so much. Any thing else will be greated
appreciated.  I have only been her human companion a few weeks, but have
gotten very close with her.  She rubs noses and jowls now. She is so soft
and pretty. Thank you again.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey

2011-04-04 Thread Christiane Biagi
Does vet think she might need antibiotics?  I'd keep giving her soft of
liquefied food--anything that she'll eat.  Stuff she can lick up and not
have to chew.  

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 2:12 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Abbey

Okay guys we need your help big time.  Abbey is felu and fel imun positive.
She has stomatitis. Had 14 teeth, roots and all removed 2 wks ago. Mouth
greatly improved but not all - in the back between upper and lower still
red.  Not on any meds for now. She will not lick lysine. Am going to try to
water down lysine and get it in her or spread pill powder and mix in food.
Would mixing bovine interferon maybe help? I am frantic to help her. She
does not deserve this. Cannot pill. Feeding watered down a/d or baby food or
fancy feast. She has a great appetite until she hits her sore area with a
piece of food.  She has 10 days til she goes back to the vet. He is thinking
about steriods.  Any ideas of what to do? I really don't want to put her on
steriods unless nothing else to do.  She is the baby that was dumped by my
great neighbors and they moved leaving her outside with no food or water or
anywhere to sleep unless she crawled under the slab of their house.
 Abbey is the sweetest loving black cat. We apreciate any help you can
offer. Thank you.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey

2011-04-04 Thread Natalie
An absolute MUST: CoQ10 - get the powdered version that is Vegetarian at
GNC, or I've been told Whole Foods also carries the capsules in powder form.
Open capsule, mix 1/2 of 100mg into food daily! Vitamin C would also help,
and Echinacea drops would be great - in fact, it should be given to all
FIV/FeLV+ cats to boost immune system.

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Mary Lou
Sent: Monday, April 04, 2011 2:12 PM
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Abbey

Okay guys we need your help big time.  Abbey is felu and fel imun positive.
She has stomatitis. Had 14 teeth, roots and all removed 2 wks ago. Mouth
greatly improved but not all - in the back between upper and lower still
red.  Not on any meds for now. She will not lick lysine. Am going to try to
water down lysine and get it in her or spread pill powder and mix in food.
Would mixing bovine interferon maybe help? I am frantic to help her. She
does not deserve this. Cannot pill. Feeding watered down a/d or baby food or
fancy feast. She has a great appetite until she hits her sore area with a
piece of food.  She has 10 days til she goes back to the vet. He is thinking
about steriods.  Any ideas of what to do? I really don't want to put her on
steriods unless nothing else to do.  She is the baby that was dumped by my
great neighbors and they moved leaving her outside with no food or water or
anywhere to sleep unless she crawled under the slab of their house.
 Abbey is the sweetest loving black cat. We apreciate any help you can
offer. Thank you.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey

2011-04-04 Thread Heather
I was just reading about bovine lactoferrin for the same reason--seems worth
a try to me.

I've also seen flagyl/metronidazole mentioned (used in conjunction with
antibiotics, I think)perhaps you could ask your vet about this?

Trental is another thing I read about helping a difficult case.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Mary Lou jerseydevil1...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Okay guys we need your help big time.  Abbey is felu and fel imun positive.
 She has stomatitis. Had 14 teeth, roots and all removed 2 wks ago. Mouth
 greatly improved but not all - in the back between upper and lower still
 red.  Not on any meds for now. She will not lick lysine. Am going to try to
 water down lysine and get it in her or spread pill powder and mix in food.
 Would mixing bovine interferon maybe help? I am frantic to help her. She
 does not deserve this. Cannot pill. Feeding watered down a/d or baby food or
 fancy feast. She has a great appetite until she hits her sore area with a
 piece of food.  She has 10 days til she goes back to the vet. He is thinking
 about steriods.  Any ideas of what to do? I really don't want to put her on
 steriods unless nothing else to do.  She is the baby that was dumped by my
 great neighbors and they moved leaving her outside with no food or water or
 anywhere to sleep unless she crawled under the slab of their house.
  Abbey is the sweetest loving black cat. We apreciate any help you can
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Re: [Felvtalk] Abbey

2011-04-04 Thread MaiMaiPG
I don't think I would wait 10 days to get her seen.  Two weeks is  
enough for me to go nuts.

On Apr 4, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Heather wrote:

I was just reading about bovine lactoferrin for the same reason-- 
seems worth

a try to me.

I've also seen flagyl/metronidazole mentioned (used in conjunction  
with

antibiotics, I think)perhaps you could ask your vet about this?

Trental is another thing I read about helping a difficult case.

On Mon, Apr 4, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Mary Lou jerseydevil1...@yahoo.com  
wrote:


Okay guys we need your help big time.  Abbey is felu and fel imun  
positive.
She has stomatitis. Had 14 teeth, roots and all removed 2 wks ago.  
Mouth
greatly improved but not all - in the back between upper and lower  
still
red.  Not on any meds for now. She will not lick lysine. Am going  
to try to
water down lysine and get it in her or spread pill powder and mix  
in food.
Would mixing bovine interferon maybe help? I am frantic to help  
her. She
does not deserve this. Cannot pill. Feeding watered down a/d or  
baby food or
fancy feast. She has a great appetite until she hits her sore area  
with a
piece of food.  She has 10 days til she goes back to the vet. He is  
thinking
about steriods.  Any ideas of what to do? I really don't want to  
put her on
steriods unless nothing else to do.  She is the baby that was  
dumped by my
great neighbors and they moved leaving her outside with no food or  
water or

anywhere to sleep unless she crawled under the slab of their house.
Abbey is the sweetest loving black cat. We apreciate any help you can
offer. Thank you.

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