Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia

2008-10-30 Thread Sharyl
Sue, here is a link for a good overview of IMHA.
http://www.marvistavet.com/html/body_imha.html
Hope it helps explain things.
Sharyl

On Oct 28, 2008, at 8:02 PM, Sue  Frank Koren wrote:

 Jane,
 Thank you for your help.  Buzz is not doing too badly, we caught it  
 when his
 blood levels were in the twenties this time.  Last time he was down to
 eight. We have been testing his blood every other week and I  
 purchased a pet
 scale to monitor his weight more closely.
  I guess it is Leukeran that he will be on.  That is what the  
 pharmacies
 had.  The Chlorambucil must be the generic.  Dr. Tom gives me the  
 name of
 the medication and the dosage and lets me call around to the  
 pharmacies to
 find the best price.  For 15  2mg tablets of Leuctra the price  
 ranged from
 $49.44 to $77.99.
  Do you know if they can ever go off of the Leukeran once they are  
 on it?
 Is hemolytic anemia something they can beat for good or will it  
 keep coming
 back?
 Thanks again for your help,
 Sue
 - Original Message -
 From: Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia


 Sue
 I talked with Hideyo (former list member) who said that she has heard
 of people who have had good results
 with Leukeran. She also said to caution you to be patient when going
 back on the full strength Predinisole. It sometimes
 does not work right away.
 Something is wrong with her computer but if she gets up and running
 I'll try to connect you.

 Hope Buzz is having a good day.

 Jane
 On Oct 28, 2008, at 7:43 AM, Sue  Frank Koren wrote:

 Would it be better for him to just stay on the Prednesolone?  I
 have heard that also has side effects, though.

  Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Leukeran is a chemotherapy drug.  The problems we had with
Leukeran
 was that it helped his anemia, but brought his immune system  
 down so
 low that he got some sort of opportunistic infection.  AIHA is
 
 not a
 good diagnosis.

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Sue  Frank Koren
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My vet told me that the Chlorambucil is the generic for
Leukeran
 (or vise
 versa).  Is it a type of chemo?  Dr. Tom says it is not in
his
 marrow.

 - Original Message -
 From: Kelley Saveika
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia


 I lost a cat to AIHA last year.  If you do a search,
Hideyo had
 some
 suggestions.  We did not use Chlorambucil, we used
Leukeran.

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Sue  Frank Koren
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 My Buzz had anemia back in July and because of the
advise of
 this group
 and my vet who is very proactive his life was
saved.  We have
 been slowly
 weaning him off of the Prednisolone for the past
several
 months.  He was
 down to 1/2 of a 5mg tablet one time a day. 
Unfortunately his
 red blood
 cell count began to drop again.  He is back to his
full dose of
 Prednisolone - 30mg / day.  We will wait until the
red blood
 cell count
 stabilizes and then begin the weaning process
again.  This time
 he will
 also be on Chlorambucil.  Does anyone have any
experience with
 this drug
 or have any other suggestions that may help Buzz? 
I have an
 excellent
 vet who is very open to suggestions and will
research any
 possibilities
 thoroughly.
 Buzzy is the love of my life.  He snuggles up with
me every
 single night.
 I know the people in this group understand more
then anyone
 else what
 this is like.
 Thank you,
 Sue and Buzzy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia

2008-10-29 Thread Sue Frank Koren
Jane, 
Your bliss therapy does not sound nuts at all!  When Buzz was so sick in the 
summer time I used to take him out on my deck and give him Reiki treatments.  
Then I would just pet him and love him.  I am SURE that is part of what helped 
him so much at that time.  Unfortunately the deck is not such a pleasant place 
right now.  He probably would not have been able to relax if we were sitting 
out there in the middle of the sleet/rain/snow and wind storm we had last 
night.  I'm glad MeMe was able to be so happy after being so abused.  I just 
can't believe what some people will do.Buzzy was abused by some inner city 
Cleveland gangs before my brothers wife saved him.  He is still a very nervous 
cat.  The only times he will completely relax and purr are out on the deck and 
in bed at night.  Every time I pass him I reach down and give him a caress 
which he seems to enjoy, but he really dislikes being held.
I will look forward to hearing from Hideyo.  Thank you for all your help.
Sue


 Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Hi Sue
 I can ask Hideyo ...hopefully I can get an answer for you tomorrow.
 I hope it is something that can be put into remission, but I am not  
 sure.
 
 I know how much you care for Buzz and I am sure that he knows that ...
   a great immune system booster. When Me Me was in the throes of  
 fighting
 a terrible upper respiratory, we used to do 15 minute intervals of  
 bliss therapy
 throughout the day. She loved being combed and she would roll and  
 around and purr
 deeply almost vibrate. I know this sounds nuts, but I am sure the  
 sheer pleasure
 of being loved and cared for (she had been thrown from a car window  
 onto the porch of
 a 'shelter' as a kitten) helped her immune system.
 
 We do everything we can to help them fight this virus. We know that  
 ultimately they are on their
 own path, and that they will let us know when they want to let go.
 
 Hopefully Hideyo will be able to answer your questions.
 Give Buzz a buzz from us.
 
 Jane
 
 
 
 
 On Oct 28, 2008, at 8:02 PM, Sue  Frank Koren wrote:
 
  Jane,
  Thank you for your help.  Buzz is not doing too badly, we caught it  
  when his
  blood levels were in the twenties this time.  Last time he was down to
  eight. We have been testing his blood every other week and I  
  purchased a pet
  scale to monitor his weight more closely.
   I guess it is Leukeran that he will be on.  That is what the  
  pharmacies
  had.  The Chlorambucil must be the generic.  Dr. Tom gives me the  
  name of
  the medication and the dosage and lets me call around to the  
  pharmacies to
  find the best price.  For 15  2mg tablets of Leuctra the price  
  ranged from
  $49.44 to $77.99.
   Do you know if they can ever go off of the Leukeran once they are  
  on it?
  Is hemolytic anemia something they can beat for good or will it  
  keep coming
  back?
  Thanks again for your help,
  Sue
  - Original Message -
  From: Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:29 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia
 
 
  Sue
  I talked with Hideyo (former list member) who said that she has heard
  of people who have had good results
  with Leukeran. She also said to caution you to be patient when going
  back on the full strength Predinisole. It sometimes
  does not work right away.
  Something is wrong with her computer but if she gets up and running
  I'll try to connect you.
 
  Hope Buzz is having a good day.
 
  Jane

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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia

2008-10-29 Thread dlgegg
question:  what is reiki?  
since your deck isn't nice now, what about a sunny window.  Buzz could lay in 
your lap, soak up the sun.  i know what you mean about the weather.  it is 
getting cold here in Missouri and we have the rain, sleet, snow and hail to 
look forwrd to.  this is the hard part of the year for my cats.  they want to 
go out and can't, even the neg ones.  i don't want them getting wet and cold, 
just asking for problems.  Homie refuses to come in, waits until she is half 
frozen and cannot deny that she is cold anymore.  Annie is smart, you open the 
door, she feels one cold breeze and she backs up into her nice warm house.  
dorlis
 Sue  Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Jane, 
 Your bliss therapy does not sound nuts at all!  When Buzz was so sick in the 
 summer time I used to take him out on my deck and give him Reiki treatments.  
 Then I would just pet him and love him.  I am SURE that is part of what 
 helped him so much at that time.  Unfortunately the deck is not such a 
 pleasant place right now.  He probably would not have been able to relax if 
 we were sitting out there in the middle of the sleet/rain/snow and wind storm 
 we had last night.  I'm glad MeMe was able to be so happy after being so 
 abused.  I just can't believe what some people will do.Buzzy was abused 
 by some inner city Cleveland gangs before my brothers wife saved him.  He is 
 still a very nervous cat.  The only times he will completely relax and purr 
 are out on the deck and in bed at night.  Every time I pass him I reach down 
 and give him a caress which he seems to enjoy, but he really dislikes being 
 held.
 I will look forward to hearing from Hideyo.  Thank you for all your help.
 Sue
 
 
  Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
  Hi Sue
  I can ask Hideyo ...hopefully I can get an answer for you tomorrow.
  I hope it is something that can be put into remission, but I am not  
  sure.
  
  I know how much you care for Buzz and I am sure that he knows that ...
a great immune system booster. When Me Me was in the throes of  
  fighting
  a terrible upper respiratory, we used to do 15 minute intervals of  
  bliss therapy
  throughout the day. She loved being combed and she would roll and  
  around and purr
  deeply almost vibrate. I know this sounds nuts, but I am sure the  
  sheer pleasure
  of being loved and cared for (she had been thrown from a car window  
  onto the porch of
  a 'shelter' as a kitten) helped her immune system.
  
  We do everything we can to help them fight this virus. We know that  
  ultimately they are on their
  own path, and that they will let us know when they want to let go.
  
  Hopefully Hideyo will be able to answer your questions.
  Give Buzz a buzz from us.
  
  Jane
  
  
  
  
  On Oct 28, 2008, at 8:02 PM, Sue  Frank Koren wrote:
  
   Jane,
   Thank you for your help.  Buzz is not doing too badly, we caught it  
   when his
   blood levels were in the twenties this time.  Last time he was down to
   eight. We have been testing his blood every other week and I  
   purchased a pet
   scale to monitor his weight more closely.
I guess it is Leukeran that he will be on.  That is what the  
   pharmacies
   had.  The Chlorambucil must be the generic.  Dr. Tom gives me the  
   name of
   the medication and the dosage and lets me call around to the  
   pharmacies to
   find the best price.  For 15  2mg tablets of Leuctra the price  
   ranged from
   $49.44 to $77.99.
Do you know if they can ever go off of the Leukeran once they are  
   on it?
   Is hemolytic anemia something they can beat for good or will it  
   keep coming
   back?
   Thanks again for your help,
   Sue
   - Original Message -
   From: Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:29 PM
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia
  
  
   Sue
   I talked with Hideyo (former list member) who said that she has heard
   of people who have had good results
   with Leukeran. She also said to caution you to be patient when going
   back on the full strength Predinisole. It sometimes
   does not work right away.
   Something is wrong with her computer but if she gets up and running
   I'll try to connect you.
  
   Hope Buzz is having a good day.
  
   Jane
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia

2008-10-29 Thread wendy
Hi Sue,

I am sorry to hear that Buzz has to go back on the Prednisolone.  I wish I 
could help you out with the new drug, but this is the first time I've ever 
heard about it.  Please keep us posted on his progress.  I hope his rbc goes up 
soon!

:)
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From: Sue  Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 6:22:43 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia

My Buzz had anemia back in July and because of the advise of this group and my 
vet who is very proactive his life was saved.  We have been slowly weaning him 
off of the Prednisolone for the past several months.  He was down to 1/2 of a 
5mg tablet one time a day.  Unfortunately his red blood cell count began to 
drop again.  He is back to his full dose of Prednisolone - 30mg / day.  We will 
wait until the red blood cell count stabilizes and then begin the weaning 
process again.  This time he will also be on Chlorambucil.  Does anyone have 
any experience with this drug or have any other suggestions that may help 
Buzz?  I have an excellent vet who is very open to suggestions and will 
research any possibilities thoroughly.
Buzzy is the love of my life.  He snuggles up with me every single night.  I 
know the people in this group understand more then anyone else what this is 
like.
Thank you,
Sue and Buzzy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia

2008-10-28 Thread Sue Frank Koren
Would it be better for him to just stay on the Prednesolone?  I have heard that 
also has side effects, though.

 Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 Leukeran is a chemotherapy drug.  The problems we had with Leukeran
 was that it helped his anemia, but brought his immune system down so
 low that he got some sort of opportunistic infection.  AIHA is not a
 good diagnosis.
 
 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Sue  Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  My vet told me that the Chlorambucil is the generic for Leukeran (or vise
  versa).  Is it a type of chemo?  Dr. Tom says it is not in his marrow.
 
  - Original Message -
  From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:25 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia
 
 
 I lost a cat to AIHA last year.  If you do a search, Hideyo had some
  suggestions.  We did not use Chlorambucil, we used Leukeran.
 
  On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Sue  Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  wrote:
  My Buzz had anemia back in July and because of the advise of this group
  and my vet who is very proactive his life was saved.  We have been slowly
  weaning him off of the Prednisolone for the past several months.  He was
  down to 1/2 of a 5mg tablet one time a day.  Unfortunately his red blood
  cell count began to drop again.  He is back to his full dose of
  Prednisolone - 30mg / day.  We will wait until the red blood cell count
  stabilizes and then begin the weaning process again.  This time he will
  also be on Chlorambucil.  Does anyone have any experience with this drug
  or have any other suggestions that may help Buzz?  I have an excellent
  vet who is very open to suggestions and will research any possibilities
  thoroughly.
  Buzzy is the love of my life.  He snuggles up with me every single night.
  I know the people in this group understand more then anyone else what
  this is like.
  Thank you,
  Sue and Buzzy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia

2008-10-28 Thread Jane Lyons
Sue
I talked with Hideyo (former list member) who said that she has heard  
of people who have had good results
with Leukeran. She also said to caution you to be patient when going  
back on the full strength Predinisole. It sometimes
does not work right away.
Something is wrong with her computer but if she gets up and running  
I'll try to connect you.

Hope Buzz is having a good day.

Jane
On Oct 28, 2008, at 7:43 AM, Sue  Frank Koren wrote:

 Would it be better for him to just stay on the Prednesolone?  I  
 have heard that also has side effects, though.

  Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Leukeran is a chemotherapy drug.  The problems we had with Leukeran
 was that it helped his anemia, but brought his immune system down so
 low that he got some sort of opportunistic infection.  AIHA is not a
 good diagnosis.

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Sue  Frank Koren  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My vet told me that the Chlorambucil is the generic for Leukeran  
 (or vise
 versa).  Is it a type of chemo?  Dr. Tom says it is not in his  
 marrow.

 - Original Message -
 From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia


 I lost a cat to AIHA last year.  If you do a search, Hideyo had  
 some
 suggestions.  We did not use Chlorambucil, we used Leukeran.

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Sue  Frank Koren  
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 My Buzz had anemia back in July and because of the advise of  
 this group
 and my vet who is very proactive his life was saved.  We have  
 been slowly
 weaning him off of the Prednisolone for the past several  
 months.  He was
 down to 1/2 of a 5mg tablet one time a day.  Unfortunately his  
 red blood
 cell count began to drop again.  He is back to his full dose of
 Prednisolone - 30mg / day.  We will wait until the red blood  
 cell count
 stabilizes and then begin the weaning process again.  This time  
 he will
 also be on Chlorambucil.  Does anyone have any experience with  
 this drug
 or have any other suggestions that may help Buzz?  I have an  
 excellent
 vet who is very open to suggestions and will research any  
 possibilities
 thoroughly.
 Buzzy is the love of my life.  He snuggles up with me every  
 single night.
 I know the people in this group understand more then anyone  
 else what
 this is like.
 Thank you,
 Sue and Buzzy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia

2008-10-28 Thread Sue Frank Koren
Jane,
Thank you for your help.  Buzz is not doing too badly, we caught it when his 
blood levels were in the twenties this time.  Last time he was down to 
eight. We have been testing his blood every other week and I purchased a pet 
scale to monitor his weight more closely.
 I guess it is Leukeran that he will be on.  That is what the pharmacies 
had.  The Chlorambucil must be the generic.  Dr. Tom gives me the name of 
the medication and the dosage and lets me call around to the pharmacies to 
find the best price.  For 15  2mg tablets of Leuctra the price ranged from 
$49.44 to $77.99.
 Do you know if they can ever go off of the Leukeran once they are on it? 
Is hemolytic anemia something they can beat for good or will it keep coming 
back?
Thanks again for your help,
Sue
- Original Message - 
From: Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia


 Sue
 I talked with Hideyo (former list member) who said that she has heard
 of people who have had good results
 with Leukeran. She also said to caution you to be patient when going
 back on the full strength Predinisole. It sometimes
 does not work right away.
 Something is wrong with her computer but if she gets up and running
 I'll try to connect you.

 Hope Buzz is having a good day.

 Jane
 On Oct 28, 2008, at 7:43 AM, Sue  Frank Koren wrote:

 Would it be better for him to just stay on the Prednesolone?  I
 have heard that also has side effects, though.

  Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Leukeran is a chemotherapy drug.  The problems we had with Leukeran
 was that it helped his anemia, but brought his immune system down so
 low that he got some sort of opportunistic infection.  AIHA is not a
 good diagnosis.

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Sue  Frank Koren
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My vet told me that the Chlorambucil is the generic for Leukeran
 (or vise
 versa).  Is it a type of chemo?  Dr. Tom says it is not in his
 marrow.

 - Original Message -
 From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia


 I lost a cat to AIHA last year.  If you do a search, Hideyo had
 some
 suggestions.  We did not use Chlorambucil, we used Leukeran.

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Sue  Frank Koren
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 My Buzz had anemia back in July and because of the advise of
 this group
 and my vet who is very proactive his life was saved.  We have
 been slowly
 weaning him off of the Prednisolone for the past several
 months.  He was
 down to 1/2 of a 5mg tablet one time a day.  Unfortunately his
 red blood
 cell count began to drop again.  He is back to his full dose of
 Prednisolone - 30mg / day.  We will wait until the red blood
 cell count
 stabilizes and then begin the weaning process again.  This time
 he will
 also be on Chlorambucil.  Does anyone have any experience with
 this drug
 or have any other suggestions that may help Buzz?  I have an
 excellent
 vet who is very open to suggestions and will research any
 possibilities
 thoroughly.
 Buzzy is the love of my life.  He snuggles up with me every
 single night.
 I know the people in this group understand more then anyone
 else what
 this is like.
 Thank you,
 Sue and Buzzy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia

2008-10-28 Thread Jane Lyons
Hi Sue
I can ask Hideyo ...hopefully I can get an answer for you tomorrow.
I hope it is something that can be put into remission, but I am not  
sure.

I know how much you care for Buzz and I am sure that he knows that ...
  a great immune system booster. When Me Me was in the throes of  
fighting
a terrible upper respiratory, we used to do 15 minute intervals of  
bliss therapy
throughout the day. She loved being combed and she would roll and  
around and purr
deeply almost vibrate. I know this sounds nuts, but I am sure the  
sheer pleasure
of being loved and cared for (she had been thrown from a car window  
onto the porch of
a 'shelter' as a kitten) helped her immune system.

We do everything we can to help them fight this virus. We know that  
ultimately they are on their
own path, and that they will let us know when they want to let go.

Hopefully Hideyo will be able to answer your questions.
Give Buzz a buzz from us.

Jane




On Oct 28, 2008, at 8:02 PM, Sue  Frank Koren wrote:

 Jane,
 Thank you for your help.  Buzz is not doing too badly, we caught it  
 when his
 blood levels were in the twenties this time.  Last time he was down to
 eight. We have been testing his blood every other week and I  
 purchased a pet
 scale to monitor his weight more closely.
  I guess it is Leukeran that he will be on.  That is what the  
 pharmacies
 had.  The Chlorambucil must be the generic.  Dr. Tom gives me the  
 name of
 the medication and the dosage and lets me call around to the  
 pharmacies to
 find the best price.  For 15  2mg tablets of Leuctra the price  
 ranged from
 $49.44 to $77.99.
  Do you know if they can ever go off of the Leukeran once they are  
 on it?
 Is hemolytic anemia something they can beat for good or will it  
 keep coming
 back?
 Thanks again for your help,
 Sue
 - Original Message -
 From: Jane Lyons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Tuesday, October 28, 2008 5:29 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia


 Sue
 I talked with Hideyo (former list member) who said that she has heard
 of people who have had good results
 with Leukeran. She also said to caution you to be patient when going
 back on the full strength Predinisole. It sometimes
 does not work right away.
 Something is wrong with her computer but if she gets up and running
 I'll try to connect you.

 Hope Buzz is having a good day.

 Jane
 On Oct 28, 2008, at 7:43 AM, Sue  Frank Koren wrote:

 Would it be better for him to just stay on the Prednesolone?  I
 have heard that also has side effects, though.

  Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Leukeran is a chemotherapy drug.  The problems we had with Leukeran
 was that it helped his anemia, but brought his immune system  
 down so
 low that he got some sort of opportunistic infection.  AIHA is  
 not a
 good diagnosis.

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Sue  Frank Koren
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My vet told me that the Chlorambucil is the generic for Leukeran
 (or vise
 versa).  Is it a type of chemo?  Dr. Tom says it is not in his
 marrow.

 - Original Message -
 From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia


 I lost a cat to AIHA last year.  If you do a search, Hideyo had
 some
 suggestions.  We did not use Chlorambucil, we used Leukeran.

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Sue  Frank Koren
 [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 My Buzz had anemia back in July and because of the advise of
 this group
 and my vet who is very proactive his life was saved.  We have
 been slowly
 weaning him off of the Prednisolone for the past several
 months.  He was
 down to 1/2 of a 5mg tablet one time a day.  Unfortunately his
 red blood
 cell count began to drop again.  He is back to his full dose of
 Prednisolone - 30mg / day.  We will wait until the red blood
 cell count
 stabilizes and then begin the weaning process again.  This time
 he will
 also be on Chlorambucil.  Does anyone have any experience with
 this drug
 or have any other suggestions that may help Buzz?  I have an
 excellent
 vet who is very open to suggestions and will research any
 possibilities
 thoroughly.
 Buzzy is the love of my life.  He snuggles up with me every
 single night.
 I know the people in this group understand more then anyone
 else what
 this is like.
 Thank you,
 Sue and Buzzy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia

2008-10-28 Thread dlgegg
hi, glad you have a vet who will listen to all suggestions.  you say Buzz 
snuggles with you, by any chance does he prefer legs?   curious.  my cats have 
always preferred to lay on top of my ankles or between my legs.  hard to get 
out of bed in a hurry with 2 or 3 cats laying all over you.  hope Buzz gets 
better soon.  sorry i don't have anything on this new med.  you might enter the 
name on search and see what comes up.  dorlis 
 Sue  Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 
 My Buzz had anemia back in July and because of the advise of this group and 
 my vet who is very proactive his life was saved.  We have been slowly weaning 
 him off of the Prednisolone for the past several months.  He was down to 1/2 
 of a 5mg tablet one time a day.  Unfortunately his red blood cell count began 
 to drop again.  He is back to his full dose of Prednisolone - 30mg / day.  We 
 will wait until the red blood cell count stabilizes and then begin the 
 weaning process again.  This time he will also be on Chlorambucil.  Does 
 anyone have any experience with this drug or have any other suggestions that 
 may help Buzz?  I have an excellent vet who is very open to suggestions and 
 will research any possibilities thoroughly.
 Buzzy is the love of my life.  He snuggles up with me every single night.  I 
 know the people in this group understand more then anyone else what this is 
 like.
 Thank you,
 Sue and Buzzy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia

2008-10-27 Thread Kelley Saveika
I lost a cat to AIHA last year.  If you do a search, Hideyo had some
suggestions.  We did not use Chlorambucil, we used Leukeran.

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Sue  Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My Buzz had anemia back in July and because of the advise of this group and 
 my vet who is very proactive his life was saved.  We have been slowly weaning 
 him off of the Prednisolone for the past several months.  He was down to 1/2 
 of a 5mg tablet one time a day.  Unfortunately his red blood cell count began 
 to drop again.  He is back to his full dose of Prednisolone - 30mg / day.  We 
 will wait until the red blood cell count stabilizes and then begin the 
 weaning process again.  This time he will also be on Chlorambucil.  Does 
 anyone have any experience with this drug or have any other suggestions that 
 may help Buzz?  I have an excellent vet who is very open to suggestions and 
 will research any possibilities thoroughly.
 Buzzy is the love of my life.  He snuggles up with me every single night.  I 
 know the people in this group understand more then anyone else what this is 
 like.
 Thank you,
 Sue and Buzzy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia

2008-10-27 Thread Jane Lyons
Hi Sue
I sent your post to some former list members who might be able to  
give you some help.

I know how scary it is. Hopefully they will contact you and will be  
able to share their
experience with anemia or maybe someone on the list will.

Hang in there ...we're rooting for Buzz.

Jane





On Oct 27, 2008, at 7:22 PM, Sue  Frank Koren wrote:

 My Buzz had anemia back in July and because of the advise of this  
 group and my vet who is very proactive his life was saved.  We have  
 been slowly weaning him off of the Prednisolone for the past  
 several months.  He was down to 1/2 of a 5mg tablet one time a  
 day.  Unfortunately his red blood cell count began to drop again.   
 He is back to his full dose of Prednisolone - 30mg / day.  We will  
 wait until the red blood cell count stabilizes and then begin the  
 weaning process again.  This time he will also be on Chlorambucil.   
 Does anyone have any experience with this drug or have any other  
 suggestions that may help Buzz?  I have an excellent vet who is  
 very open to suggestions and will research any possibilities  
 thoroughly.
 Buzzy is the love of my life.  He snuggles up with me every single  
 night.  I know the people in this group understand more then anyone  
 else what this is like.
 Thank you,
 Sue and Buzzy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia

2008-10-27 Thread Sue Frank Koren
My vet told me that the Chlorambucil is the generic for Leukeran (or vise 
versa).  Is it a type of chemo?  Dr. Tom says it is not in his marrow.

- Original Message - 
From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:25 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia


I lost a cat to AIHA last year.  If you do a search, Hideyo had some
 suggestions.  We did not use Chlorambucil, we used Leukeran.

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Sue  Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 wrote:
 My Buzz had anemia back in July and because of the advise of this group 
 and my vet who is very proactive his life was saved.  We have been slowly 
 weaning him off of the Prednisolone for the past several months.  He was 
 down to 1/2 of a 5mg tablet one time a day.  Unfortunately his red blood 
 cell count began to drop again.  He is back to his full dose of 
 Prednisolone - 30mg / day.  We will wait until the red blood cell count 
 stabilizes and then begin the weaning process again.  This time he will 
 also be on Chlorambucil.  Does anyone have any experience with this drug 
 or have any other suggestions that may help Buzz?  I have an excellent 
 vet who is very open to suggestions and will research any possibilities 
 thoroughly.
 Buzzy is the love of my life.  He snuggles up with me every single night. 
 I know the people in this group understand more then anyone else what 
 this is like.
 Thank you,
 Sue and Buzzy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia

2008-10-27 Thread Kelley Saveika
Leukeran is a chemotherapy drug.  The problems we had with Leukeran
was that it helped his anemia, but brought his immune system down so
low that he got some sort of opportunistic infection.  AIHA is not a
good diagnosis.

On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 7:57 PM, Sue  Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 My vet told me that the Chlorambucil is the generic for Leukeran (or vise
 versa).  Is it a type of chemo?  Dr. Tom says it is not in his marrow.

 - Original Message -
 From: Kelley Saveika [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Monday, October 27, 2008 7:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Buzzy still has hemolytic anemia


I lost a cat to AIHA last year.  If you do a search, Hideyo had some
 suggestions.  We did not use Chlorambucil, we used Leukeran.

 On Mon, Oct 27, 2008 at 6:22 PM, Sue  Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 wrote:
 My Buzz had anemia back in July and because of the advise of this group
 and my vet who is very proactive his life was saved.  We have been slowly
 weaning him off of the Prednisolone for the past several months.  He was
 down to 1/2 of a 5mg tablet one time a day.  Unfortunately his red blood
 cell count began to drop again.  He is back to his full dose of
 Prednisolone - 30mg / day.  We will wait until the red blood cell count
 stabilizes and then begin the weaning process again.  This time he will
 also be on Chlorambucil.  Does anyone have any experience with this drug
 or have any other suggestions that may help Buzz?  I have an excellent
 vet who is very open to suggestions and will research any possibilities
 thoroughly.
 Buzzy is the love of my life.  He snuggles up with me every single night.
 I know the people in this group understand more then anyone else what
 this is like.
 Thank you,
 Sue and Buzzy
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