Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-29 Thread paola cresti
Hi Lorrie, 
I've looked around and on ebay too, but I can't seem to find many bulk deals 
for 
cat collars.
The most I've seen was for 6 and they weren't break aways.
Where do you usually get them from? If you don't mind...





From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Wed, May 25, 2011 4:09:39 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

On 05-24, paola cresti wrote:

snipped..

 If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since
 they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil
 people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them.
 
 It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got
 themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do
 learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that
 I want people to know this cat is looked after!! 

My cats have gotten their paws thru the collar at times, but now
they've learned to get rid of the collars without getting caught.
This is why I buy collars  ID tags by the dozen.

Lorrie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-28 Thread dlgegg
Why not have fencing on concrete?  I would think that would prevent anything 
from digging under the fence.  I can see putting it below ground level so 
nothing digs under.  You also need to put a row of shingles over the wire.  
When the racons, etc start digging, they run into the shingles and stop digging.

I planned on using 1/4 hardware cloth.  That is what I use to keep possums and 
rcoons out of my vegie pots.  Chicken wire they just ly on and pull the 
tomatoes up so they can eat at their leisure.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 That's an excellent idea.  Just make sure that if the fence is placed on the
 ground and not a slab of concrete or decking, that the fence goes down at
 least 6 so nothing can dig under and into it.  Also, use turkey wire or
 1/4-1/2 hardware cloth - NOT chicken wire - it is much too weak for a
 mountain lion, coyote, etc.  Even some very determined cats can bend and rip
 through chicken wire!
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 12:35 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
 
 Forgot, I am hoping to fence in an area about 10' x 12' wit fencing over the
 top so they can stay out longer.  This last idea came as a result of the
 appearance of a mountain lion the last 2 years.  He hs never offered to
 attack me or the cats, but he usually had a deer carcass he was working on
 since he shows up around deer season and some of the hunters don't track
 down (more likely, too lazy to) their wounded deer and finish them.  So they
 run till they drop and the lion, coyotes, wolf and bear around here eat
 well.  The lion was only the distnce between 2 utility poles from my mailbox
 each time I saw him and he just looked at me and strolled across the road.
  Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
  On 05-25, MaiMaiPG wrote:
   How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs?
  
  We live in a private resort area, and all dogs must be inside
  or on a leash. I have never seen a coyote, but just in case I 
  always bring all our cats inside at night.  Believe it or not
  they dutifully come when I call them.
  
  Lorrie
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-28 Thread dlgegg
I just had a thought.  I was shredding som paper and realized tat someone could 
get their paw in it and be shredded.  I will now ALWAYS unplug it when not in 
use.


 MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I suspect that I will start having my little guys (and dog) scanned  
 when I have them at a vet's just to make sure the chip is where it s  
 supposed to be.
 On May 24, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Natalie wrote:
 
  My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have  
  canners,
  and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro
  chipped.
  I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost
  cat-escape-proof.
  Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage  
  for
  recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all  
  the way
  the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door,  
  the cat
  just flew out.  He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and extremely  
  cold in
  an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in  
  the next
  town).  This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around.   
  Who knows
  where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came  
  from.a
  microchip wouldn't have done any good with him.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
 
  I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far
  apart.
  That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip  
  was
  introduced.
  I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes
  outside
  when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart  
  little
  critter)
  so she's chipped but collarless.
 
  The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go  
  through the
  time
  when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have  
  a collar
 
  with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them  
  up they
  have
  the chip) that tells the neighbours I'm taken care of!!
  But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find  
  that he
  slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged)  
  another
  time
  he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get  
  himself rid of
  it.
  But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets  
  rid of
  them,
  but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten  
  himself
  stuf
  on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase  
  him
  because
  then he didn't want to be caught)
 
  This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten  
  himself
  stuck
  on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting  
  stuck
  anymore.
 
  If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since  
  they go
  out, I
  don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they  
  know that
  someone WILL be looking for them.
 
  It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves  
  stuck
  with
  the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and  
  there are so
 
  many strays/ferals around that I want people to know this cat is  
  looked
  after!!  (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those)
 
 
 
  
  From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
 
  Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.
 
  But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but  
  you
  can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/
 
  Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get
  tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.
 
  I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on  
  them in
  case they get lost.
 
  On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip
  migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet  
  discovered
  the
  chip
  I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may  
  be
  too
  big to be accepted by group address.
  Do they? Is there documentation on this?
 
  I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?
 
  On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat  
  from
  death
  row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
  Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning  
  stray
  animals that come through.
 
  On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net  
  wrote:
 
  I JUST wrote about

Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-28 Thread Bonnie Hogue
You sound like me!
Only, I was afraid someone would sit on the thing and get a tail suck into
it!  Yeowww!
So yes, unplugged.  Actually, it's best to leave appliances unplugged when
not in use.  Some of them use energy even when not turned on.
~Bonnie

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
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dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 10:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I just had a thought.  I was shredding som paper and realized tat someone
could get their paw in it and be shredded.  I will now ALWAYS unplug it when
not in use.


 MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I suspect that I will start having my little guys (and dog) scanned 
 when I have them at a vet's just to make sure the chip is where it s 
 supposed to be.
 On May 24, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Natalie wrote:
 
  My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have 
  canners, and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has 
  been micro chipped.
  I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost 
  cat-escape-proof.
  Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage 
  for recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage 
  all the way the night before...when the morning person opened the 
  garage door, the cat just flew out.  He was extremely shy, and it 
  was snowy and extremely cold in an area he didn't know (he was going 
  back to his feeding source in the next
  town).  This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around.   
  Who knows
  where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came 
  from.a microchip wouldn't have done any good with him.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola 
  cresti
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
 
  I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and 
  far apart.
  That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip 
  was introduced.
  I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only 
  (goes outside when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the 
  doorhadle - smart little
  critter)
  so she's chipped but collarless.
 
  The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go 
  through the time when they're missing and then I have to look for 
  them, so they have a collar
 
  with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them 
  up they have the chip) that tells the neighbours I'm taken care 
  of!!
  But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find 
  that he slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily 
  thre-legged) another time he got it stuck in his mouth or just that 
  he's managed to get himself rid of it.
  But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets 
  rid of them, but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, 
  he's gotten himself stuf on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I 
  had to get ladder and chase him because then he didn't want to be 
  caught)
 
  This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten 
  himself stuck on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars 
  without getting stuck anymore.
 
  If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since 
  they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil 
  people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them.
 
  It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves 
  stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty 
  fast, and there are so
 
  many strays/ferals around that I want people to know this cat is 
  looked after!!  (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those)
 
 
 
  
  From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
 
  Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.
 
  But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but 
  you can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/
 
  Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get 
  tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.
 
  I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on 
  them in case they get lost.
 
  On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
  Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's 
  chip migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet 
  discovered
  the
  chip
  I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may 
  be
  too
  big to be accepted by group address.
  Do they? Is there documentation on this?
 
  I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?
 
  On Tue

Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-27 Thread Natalie
The best times for your brood to be outside more safely from coyotes are
between 10 AM and 5 PM during the summer - more restrictive hours when days
are shorter.

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dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 12:29 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

i ALSO BRING MY PRIDE IN AT NIGHT.  Course, the coyotes are also out during
the day.  My guys only stay out an hour or so unless I am also outside and
then they stay close to me so they can aggrevate me while i m planting
flowers and moving rocks.  for 30 years now I have not lost one dog or cat
to coyotes.  I am not sure if it is just luck or what.  
 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 On 05-25, MaiMaiPG wrote:
  How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs?
 
 We live in a private resort area, and all dogs must be inside
 or on a leash. I have never seen a coyote, but just in case I 
 always bring all our cats inside at night.  Believe it or not
 they dutifully come when I call them.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-27 Thread Natalie
That's an excellent idea.  Just make sure that if the fence is placed on the
ground and not a slab of concrete or decking, that the fence goes down at
least 6 so nothing can dig under and into it.  Also, use turkey wire or
1/4-1/2 hardware cloth - NOT chicken wire - it is much too weak for a
mountain lion, coyote, etc.  Even some very determined cats can bend and rip
through chicken wire!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 12:35 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Forgot, I am hoping to fence in an area about 10' x 12' wit fencing over the
top so they can stay out longer.  This last idea came as a result of the
appearance of a mountain lion the last 2 years.  He hs never offered to
attack me or the cats, but he usually had a deer carcass he was working on
since he shows up around deer season and some of the hunters don't track
down (more likely, too lazy to) their wounded deer and finish them.  So they
run till they drop and the lion, coyotes, wolf and bear around here eat
well.  The lion was only the distnce between 2 utility poles from my mailbox
each time I saw him and he just looked at me and strolled across the road.
 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 On 05-25, MaiMaiPG wrote:
  How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs?
 
 We live in a private resort area, and all dogs must be inside
 or on a leash. I have never seen a coyote, but just in case I 
 always bring all our cats inside at night.  Believe it or not
 they dutifully come when I call them.
 
 Lorrie
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-27 Thread Natalie
But how would anyone know that a cat is micro chipped and has a home (except 
for someone with a scanner)?  There's nothing outward to indicate to anyone, 
like an evildoer, that there's a microchip and someone cares about the cat?

-Original Message-
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Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 12:46 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Wholesale buying is a good idea, but with 7 cats, that could get expensive.  I 
guess that I am lucky, my guys all stick pretty close to home and my neighbors 
are at least 6/10's of a mile from me.
 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 On 05-24, paola cresti wrote:
 
 snipped..
  
  If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since
  they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil
  people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them.
  
  It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got
  themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do
  learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that
  I want people to know this cat is looked after!! 
 
 My cats have gotten their paws thru the collar at times, but now
 they've learned to get rid of the collars without getting caught.
 This is why I buy collars  ID tags by the dozen.
 
 Lorrie
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-27 Thread MaiMaiPG
I think they are supposed to wear a collar with a tag from Home Again  
or which ever company issued the microchip but you have the collar  
issue again.

On May 27, 2011, at 9:32 AM, Natalie wrote:

But how would anyone know that a cat is micro chipped and has a home  
(except for someone with a scanner)?  There's nothing outward to  
indicate to anyone, like an evildoer, that there's a microchip and  
someone cares about the cat?


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net

Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 12:46 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Wholesale buying is a good idea, but with 7 cats, that could get  
expensive.  I guess that I am lucky, my guys all stick pretty close  
to home and my neighbors are at least 6/10's of a mile from me.

 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

On 05-24, paola cresti wrote:

snipped..


If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since
they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil
people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them.

It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got
themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do
learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that
I want people to know this cat is looked after!!


My cats have gotten their paws thru the collar at times, but now
they've learned to get rid of the collars without getting caught.
This is why I buy collars  ID tags by the dozen.

Lorrie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-26 Thread dlgegg
i ALSO BRING MY PRIDE IN AT NIGHT.  Course, the coyotes are also out during the 
day.  My guys only stay out an hour or so unless I am also outside and then 
they stay close to me so they can aggrevate me while i m planting flowers and 
moving rocks.  for 30 years now I have not lost one dog or cat to coyotes.  I 
am not sure if it is just luck or what.  
 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 On 05-25, MaiMaiPG wrote:
  How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs?
 
 We live in a private resort area, and all dogs must be inside
 or on a leash. I have never seen a coyote, but just in case I 
 always bring all our cats inside at night.  Believe it or not
 they dutifully come when I call them.
 
 Lorrie
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-26 Thread dlgegg
Forgot, I am hoping to fence in an area about 10' x 12' wit fencing over the 
top so they can stay out longer.  This last idea came as a result of the 
appearance of a mountain lion the last 2 years.  He hs never offered to attack 
me or the cats, but he usually had a deer carcass he was working on since he 
shows up around deer season and some of the hunters don't track down (more 
likely, too lazy to) their wounded deer and finish them.  So they run till they 
drop and the lion, coyotes, wolf and bear around here eat well.  The lion was 
only the distnce between 2 utility poles from my mailbox each time I saw him 
and he just looked at me and strolled across the road.
 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 On 05-25, MaiMaiPG wrote:
  How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs?
 
 We live in a private resort area, and all dogs must be inside
 or on a leash. I have never seen a coyote, but just in case I 
 always bring all our cats inside at night.  Believe it or not
 they dutifully come when I call them.
 
 Lorrie
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-26 Thread dlgegg
RE;  MICROCHIPS
I was not aware the chips migrated.  I only have 1 cat chiped, Nitnoy.  She 
hasen't had any problems.  Got to check with my vet on that and the cancer.  On 
cancer, the University of Missouri if opening an Animal Cancer Care in 
Wentzville which is only 1/ 2 hour drive from me.  I am glad for that, driving 
to Columbia is hard to do and takes a lot more gas.

AS TO ANIMAL SHELTERS, IN LINCOLN COUNTY, THEY CALL IT ANIMAL CONTROL AND THEY 
JUST TAKE THEM OUT ALONG THE HIGHWAY AND SHOOT THEM.  fORTUNATELY, WE HAVE A NO 
KILL SHELTER IN tROY.  rIGHT NOW THEY AND OTHERS IN NEARBY COUNTIES ARE FULL UP 
WITH DOGS AND CATS AS PEOPLE ARE JUST TURNING THEIR ANIMALS LOOSE WHEN THEY 
LOOSE THEIR HOUSE AND JOB.  iT IS HARDER ON THE ANIMALS I THINK AS WE HAVE MADE 
THEM DEPENDENT ON US FOR FOOD AND SHELTER AND TAUGHT THEM TO OVE AND TRUST AND 
THN TURNED THEM OUT TO FEND FOR THEMSELVES.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 Easy - not a single cat goes outside - they have safe outdoor enclosures!
 
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 How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs?
 On May 25, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Lorrie wrote:
 
  On 05-24, Natalie wrote:
 
  But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat
  from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already
  migrated!
 
  Yes, and this is one of the reasons I don't microchip. The other
  reason is because we live in a very rural area, and our animal
  shelter has no microchip scanner... Cats are not worth
  dealing with at that awful place. They simply gas and incinerate
  them about as fast as they come in.  Which is why I now have my
  own sanctuary/shelter building in town, in addition to having 15
  cats at home.  My santuary cats do not go outside, but my cats at
  home do because we live on a dead end road in the middle of the
  woods. It's a very safe area.
 
  Lorrie
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-26 Thread dlgegg
Wholesale buying is a good idea, but with 7 cats, that could get expensive.  I 
guess that I am lucky, my guys all stick pretty close to home and my neighbors 
are at least 6/10's of a mile from me.
 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 On 05-24, paola cresti wrote:
 
 snipped..
  
  If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since
  they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil
  people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them.
  
  It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got
  themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do
  learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that
  I want people to know this cat is looked after!! 
 
 My cats have gotten their paws thru the collar at times, but now
 they've learned to get rid of the collars without getting caught.
 This is why I buy collars  ID tags by the dozen.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-25 Thread Lorrie
On 05-24, paola cresti wrote:

snipped..
 
 If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since
 they go out, I don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil
 people, so they know that someone WILL be looking for them.
 
 It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got
 themselves stuck with the collar, but in my experience they do
 learn pretty fast, and there are so many strays/ferals around that
 I want people to know this cat is looked after!! 

My cats have gotten their paws thru the collar at times, but now
they've learned to get rid of the collars without getting caught.
This is why I buy collars  ID tags by the dozen.

Lorrie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-25 Thread Lorrie
On 05-24, Natalie wrote:

 But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat
 from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already
 migrated!

Yes, and this is one of the reasons I don't microchip. The other 
reason is because we live in a very rural area, and our animal
shelter has no microchip scanner... Cats are not worth
dealing with at that awful place. They simply gas and incinerate
them about as fast as they come in.  Which is why I now have my
own sanctuary/shelter building in town, in addition to having 15 
cats at home.  My santuary cats do not go outside, but my cats at 
home do because we live on a dead end road in the middle of the 
woods. It's a very safe area.

Lorrie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-25 Thread MaiMaiPG

How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs?
On May 25, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Lorrie wrote:


On 05-24, Natalie wrote:


But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat
from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already
migrated!


Yes, and this is one of the reasons I don't microchip. The other
reason is because we live in a very rural area, and our animal
shelter has no microchip scanner... Cats are not worth
dealing with at that awful place. They simply gas and incinerate
them about as fast as they come in.  Which is why I now have my
own sanctuary/shelter building in town, in addition to having 15
cats at home.  My santuary cats do not go outside, but my cats at
home do because we live on a dead end road in the middle of the
woods. It's a very safe area.

Lorrie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-25 Thread Natalie
Easy - not a single cat goes outside - they have safe outdoor enclosures!

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How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs?
On May 25, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Lorrie wrote:

 On 05-24, Natalie wrote:

 But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat
 from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already
 migrated!

 Yes, and this is one of the reasons I don't microchip. The other
 reason is because we live in a very rural area, and our animal
 shelter has no microchip scanner... Cats are not worth
 dealing with at that awful place. They simply gas and incinerate
 them about as fast as they come in.  Which is why I now have my
 own sanctuary/shelter building in town, in addition to having 15
 cats at home.  My santuary cats do not go outside, but my cats at
 home do because we live on a dead end road in the middle of the
 woods. It's a very safe area.

 Lorrie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-25 Thread Lorrie
On 05-25, MaiMaiPG wrote:
 How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs?

We live in a private resort area, and all dogs must be inside
or on a leash. I have never seen a coyote, but just in case I 
always bring all our cats inside at night.  Believe it or not
they dutifully come when I call them.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-25 Thread MaiMaiPG
Mine don't have authorized walks but Copper has been known to take an  
unauthorized one---and panic me.  Lorrie was taling about the safety  
of her area though.  I have a similar set up but .. and wonder how  
she deals with it.

On May 25, 2011, at 7:36 AM, Natalie wrote:

Easy - not a single cat goes outside - they have safe outdoor  
enclosures!


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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
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How do you deal with coyotes and dog packs?
On May 25, 2011, at 6:01 AM, Lorrie wrote:


On 05-24, Natalie wrote:


But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat
from death row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already
migrated!


Yes, and this is one of the reasons I don't microchip. The other
reason is because we live in a very rural area, and our animal
shelter has no microchip scanner... Cats are not worth
dealing with at that awful place. They simply gas and incinerate
them about as fast as they come in.  Which is why I now have my
own sanctuary/shelter building in town, in addition to having 15
cats at home.  My santuary cats do not go outside, but my cats at
home do because we live on a dead end road in the middle of the
woods. It's a very safe area.

Lorrie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread Beth
I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've seen 
several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their mouths 
trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center  luckily 
someone was there or who knows what would have happened.

Beth
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--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM

My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so 
now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
$19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.

Lorrie


On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

 Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
 rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
 when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
 right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
 so. Sigh. ~Bonnie
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread Natalie
I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've
seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their
mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center 
luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.

Beth
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From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM

My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so 
now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
$19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.

Lorrie


On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

 Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
 rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
 when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
 right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
 so. Sigh. ~Bonnie
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread Katy Doyle
I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets.
There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
animals that come through.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
 happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie

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 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

 I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've
 seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their
 mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center 
 luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.

 Beth
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/

 --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM

 My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
 now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
 $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
 my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
 and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
 it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.

 Lorrie


 On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

  Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
  rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
  when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
  right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
  so. Sigh. ~Bonnie
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread Lynda Wilson
I agree Katy. I get those notices all the time through my email from Home 
Again (the microchip company) that notifies lost pets in your area. My vet 
scans stray animals often as well. It's a great thing to have! It costs $16 
a year for the membership.


Lynda
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I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets.
There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
animals that come through.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:


I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. 
I've

seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their
mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center 


luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.

Beth
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--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM

My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
$19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.

Lorrie


On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

 Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
 rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
 when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
 right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
 so. Sigh. ~Bonnie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread MaiMaiPG
I have both for the dog because people are more likely to catch and  
check on a dog's person here.  The cats are microchipped even though  
they are technically indoors only.  Copper and Thomas travel with me  
and it offers protection in case of a wreckor in case Copper takes  
an unauthorized walk...again.  People don't seem overly concerned  
about cats (shame).


I had a problem with a break-away on Mi Tu.  She hung her paw in it  
and it did not allow her to escape it.  In fact, had I not been home,  
she could have strangled herself.  No more collars for my cats.

On May 24, 2011, at 8:09 AM, Katy Doyle wrote:

I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my  
furry pets.

There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning  
stray

animals that come through.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:


I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats  
outside. I've
seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in  
their
mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption  
center 

luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.

Beth
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From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM

My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
$19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.

Lorrie


On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
so. Sigh. ~Bonnie



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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread Natalie
But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from death
row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets.
There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
animals that come through.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
 happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie

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 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

 I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside. I've
 seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their
 mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center

 luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.

 Beth
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/

 --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM

 My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
 now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
 $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
 my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
 and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
 it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.

 Lorrie


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  Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
  rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
  when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
  right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
  so. Sigh. ~Bonnie
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread Katy Doyle
Do they? Is there documentation on this?

I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
 death
 row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

 I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets.
 There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

 Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
 animals that come through.

 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

  I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
  happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
 
  I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside.
 I've
  seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their
  mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption center
 
  luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.
 
  Beth
  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/
 http://www.furkids.org/
  
  --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 
  From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM
 
  My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
  now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
  $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
  my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
  and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
  it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.
 
  Lorrie
 
 
  On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
 
   Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
   rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
   when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
   right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
   so. Sigh. ~Bonnie
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread Natalie
Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip
migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the
chip
I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be too
big to be accepted by group address.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Do they? Is there documentation on this?

I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
 death
 row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

 I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry
pets.
 There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

 Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
 animals that come through.

 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

  I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
  happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
 
  I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside.
 I've
  seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their
  mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption
center
 
  luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.
 
  Beth
  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/
 http://www.furkids.org/
  
  --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 
  From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM
 
  My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
  now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
  $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
  my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
  and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
  it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.
 
  Lorrie
 
 
  On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
 
   Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
   rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
   when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
   right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
   so. Sigh. ~Bonnie
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread Katy Doyle
Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.

But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you
can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/

Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get
tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.

I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in
case they get lost.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip
 migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the
 chip
 I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be too
 big to be accepted by group address.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

 Do they? Is there documentation on this?

 I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

  But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
  death
  row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
 
  I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry
 pets.
  There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.
 
  Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
  animals that come through.
 
  On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
   I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
   happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
  
   -Original Message-
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
   Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
  
   I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside.
  I've
   seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in
 their
   mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption
 center
  
   luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.
  
   Beth
   Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
 www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/http://www.furkids.org/
  http://www.furkids.org/
   
   --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
  
   From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM
  
   My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
   now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
   $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
   my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
   and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
   it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.
  
   Lorrie
  
  
   On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
  
Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
so. Sigh. ~Bonnie
   
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread Natalie
Here's an article in Washington Post, but I also have info from a holistic
veterinarian on microchips.  I will send later when I have time to look
through my files...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/08/AR2007090800
997_pf.html 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Do they? Is there documentation on this?

I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
 death
 row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

 I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry
pets.
 There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

 Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
 animals that come through.

 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

  I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
  happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
 
  I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside.
 I've
  seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their
  mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption
center
 
  luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.
 
  Beth
  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/
 http://www.furkids.org/
  
  --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 
  From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM
 
  My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
  now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
  $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
  my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
  and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
  it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.
 
  Lorrie
 
 
  On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
 
   Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
   rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
   when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
   right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
   so. Sigh. ~Bonnie
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread Natalie
One of my rescues got a tattoo on the inside of the ear - 04, meaning the
year that he was done.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.

But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you
can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/

Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get
tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.

I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in
case they get lost.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip
 migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered
the
 chip
 I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be
too
 big to be accepted by group address.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

 Do they? Is there documentation on this?

 I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

  But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
  death
  row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
 
  I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry
 pets.
  There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.
 
  Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
  animals that come through.
 
  On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
   I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
   happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
  
   -Original Message-
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
   Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
  
   I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside.
  I've
   seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in
 their
   mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption
 center
  
   luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.
  
   Beth
   Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
 www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/http://www.furkids.org/
  http://www.furkids.org/
   
   --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
  
   From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM
  
   My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
   now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
   $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
   my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
   and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
   it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.
  
   Lorrie
  
  
   On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
  
Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
so. Sigh. ~Bonnie
   
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread Beth
I would stay with the chip, not a tattoo. AC scan for chips, but someone would 
really have to be looking to see a tattoo on a cat.

Beth
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--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com wrote:

From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 3:47 PM

Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.

But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you
can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/

Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get
tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.

I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in
case they get lost.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip
 migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the
 chip
 I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be too
 big to be accepted by group address.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

 Do they? Is there documentation on this?

 I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

  But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
  death
  row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
 
  I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry
 pets.
  There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.
 
  Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
  animals that come through.
 
  On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
   I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
   happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
  
   -Original Message-
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
   Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
  
   I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside.
  I've
   seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in
 their
   mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption
 center
  
   luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.
  
   Beth
   Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
 www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/http://www.furkids.org/
  http://www.furkids.org/
   
   --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
  
   From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM
  
   My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
   now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
   $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
   my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
   and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
   it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.
  
   Lorrie
  
  
   On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
  
Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
so. Sigh. ~Bonnie
   
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread Beth
Our shelter microchips all our cats. It allowed us 2 recover 2 that had bee=
n turned in as strays to AC. With out the chips they would have been 2 more=
 dead black cats at AC.

Beth

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--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 3:26 PM

But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from death
row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry pets.
There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
animals that come through.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread Lynda Wilson
I'll keep the chip too. I think the benefits out weigh the risks. There are 
risks in vaccinations as well.
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 2:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars



Do they? Is there documentation on this?

I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:


But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
death
row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry 
pets.

There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
animals that come through.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
 happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

 I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside.
I've
 seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in 
 their
 mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption 
 center


 luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.

 Beth
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! 
 www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/

http://www.furkids.org/
 
 --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM

 My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
 now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
 $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
 my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
 and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
 it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.

 Lorrie


 On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

  Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
  rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
  when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
  right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
  so. Sigh. ~Bonnie
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread paola cresti
I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far apart.
That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip was 
introduced.
I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes outside 
when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart little 
critter) 
so she's chipped but collarless.

The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go through the 
time 
when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have a collar 
with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them up they have 
the chip) that tells the neighbours I'm taken care of!!
But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find that he 
slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged) another time 
he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get himself rid of it.
But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets rid of 
them, 
but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten himself stuf 
on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase him 
because 
then he didn't want to be caught)

This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten himself 
stuck 
on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting stuck 
anymore.

If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since they go out, 
I 
don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they know that 
someone WILL be looking for them.

It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves stuck with 
the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and there are so 
many strays/ferals around that I want people to know this cat is looked 
after!!  (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those)




From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.

But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you
can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/

Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get
tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.

I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in
case they get lost.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip
 migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered the
 chip
 I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be too
 big to be accepted by group address.
 Do they? Is there documentation on this?

 I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

  But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
  death
  row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
  Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
  animals that come through.
 
  On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
   I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
   happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
  
  
   On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
  
Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
so. Sigh. ~Bonnie
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread MaiMaiPG
That is my fear.  Cats are rarely bothered with here.  They are pests  
to be ignored or shot.  But there are areas between here and  
Louisville where Copper and Thomas might be cared about.  There is a  
particular concern about wrecks.  They and the dog ride in carriers  
but they can be thrown out of first responders could need information  
if I was unable to provide it.  Same concerns re: fires, tornadoes,  
etc.  I've witnessed too much and these little guys (and the dog) are  
my life.


Re tags on a collar.  Bob, the dog, has a metal plate bradded to his  
collar.  I know people with hunting dogs routinely use this instead of  
tags.  I don't know if something similar is available for cat collars  
or not.  Bet one could be altered.

On May 24, 2011, at 4:02 PM, Beth wrote:

Our shelter microchips all our cats. It allowed us 2 recover 2 that  
had bee=
n turned in as strays to AC. With out the chips they would have been  
2 more=

dead black cats at AC.

Beth

Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org

--- On Tue, 5/24/11, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 3:26 PM

But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat  
from death

row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my  
furry pets.

There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning  
stray

animals that come through.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread Natalie
My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have canners,
and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro
chipped.
I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost
cat-escape-proof.  
Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage for
recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all the way
the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door, the cat
just flew out.  He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and extremely cold in
an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in the next
town).  This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around.  Who knows
where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came from.a
microchip wouldn't have done any good with him.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far
apart.
That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip was 
introduced.
I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes
outside 
when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart little
critter) 
so she's chipped but collarless.

The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go through the
time 
when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have a collar

with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them up they
have 
the chip) that tells the neighbours I'm taken care of!!
But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find that he 
slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged) another
time 
he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get himself rid of
it.
But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets rid of
them, 
but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten himself
stuf 
on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase him
because 
then he didn't want to be caught)

This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten himself
stuck 
on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting stuck 
anymore.

If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since they go
out, I 
don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they know that 
someone WILL be looking for them.

It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves stuck
with 
the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and there are so

many strays/ferals around that I want people to know this cat is looked 
after!!  (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those)




From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.

But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you
can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/

Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get
tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.

I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in
case they get lost.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip
 migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered
the
 chip
 I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be
too
 big to be accepted by group address.
 Do they? Is there documentation on this?

 I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

  But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
  death
  row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
  Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
  animals that come through.
 
  On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
   I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
   happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
  
  
   On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
  
Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
so. Sigh. ~Bonnie
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread MaiMaiPG
I suspect that I will start having my little guys (and dog) scanned  
when I have them at a vet's just to make sure the chip is where it s  
supposed to be.

On May 24, 2011, at 4:51 PM, Natalie wrote:

My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have  
canners,

and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro
chipped.
I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost
cat-escape-proof.
Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage  
for
recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all  
the way
the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door,  
the cat
just flew out.  He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and extremely  
cold in
an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in  
the next
town).  This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around.   
Who knows
where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came  
from.a

microchip wouldn't have done any good with him.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far
apart.
That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip  
was

introduced.
I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes
outside
when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart  
little

critter)
so she's chipped but collarless.

The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go  
through the

time
when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have  
a collar


with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them  
up they

have
the chip) that tells the neighbours I'm taken care of!!
But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find  
that he
slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged)  
another

time
he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get  
himself rid of

it.
But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets  
rid of

them,
but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten  
himself

stuf
on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase  
him

because
then he didn't want to be caught)

This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten  
himself

stuck
on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting  
stuck

anymore.

If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since  
they go

out, I
don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they  
know that

someone WILL be looking for them.

It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves  
stuck

with
the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and  
there are so


many strays/ferals around that I want people to know this cat is  
looked

after!!  (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those)




From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.

But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but  
you

can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/

Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get
tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.

I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on  
them in

case they get lost.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:


Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip
migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet  
discovered

the

chip
I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may  
be

too

big to be accepted by group address.
Do they? Is there documentation on this?

I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat  
from

death
row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning  
stray

animals that come through.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net  
wrote:


I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that  
this

happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie


On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every  
day
when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was  
sitting

right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
so. Sigh. ~Bonnie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread Beth
the ACs here do scan thank goodness.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have canners,
and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro
chipped.
I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost
cat-escape-proof.  
Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the garage for
recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all the way
the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door, the cat
just flew out.  He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and extremely cold in
an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in the next
town).  This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around.  Who knows
where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came from.a
microchip wouldn't have done any good with him.

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and far
apart.
That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the chip was 
introduced.
I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes
outside 
when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart little
critter) 
so she's chipped but collarless.

The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go through the
time 
when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have a collar

with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them up they
have 
the chip) that tells the neighbours I'm taken care of!!
But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find that he 
slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged) another
time 
he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get himself rid of
it.
But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets rid of
them, 
but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten himself
stuf 
on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and chase him
because 
then he didn't want to be caught)

This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten himself
stuck 
on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting stuck 
anymore.

If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since they go
out, I 
don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they know that 
someone WILL be looking for them.

It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got themselves stuck
with 
the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and there are so

many strays/ferals around that I want people to know this cat is looked 
after!!  (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those)




From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.

But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but you
can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/

Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get
tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.

I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on them in
case they get lost.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's chip
 migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet discovered
the
 chip
 I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it may be
too
 big to be accepted by group address.
 Do they? Is there documentation on this?

 I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

  But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
  death
  row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
  Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
  animals that come through.
 
  On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
   I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
   happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
  
  
   On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
  
Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
so. Sigh. ~Bonnie
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread MaiMaiPG
They are supposed to here and Louisville and I know a lot of vets have  
scanners (looking for the person of a lost dog who made the mistake of  
going off the farm).  I can hopeand pray that the chps will help  
but I think I will make sure of their locations in the future.

On May 24, 2011, at 6:28 PM, Beth wrote:


the ACs here do scan thank goodness.

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

My problem with chips is that not ALL vets or municipal pounds have  
canners,

and there's no way of knowing outwardly that an animal has been micro
chipped.
I have NEVER had a real escape - our house and cat condos are almost
cat-escape-proof.
Only one new cat that had just been neutered and caged in the  
garage for
recuperation escaped - a helper didn't shut the top of the cage all  
the way
the night before...when the morning person opened the garage door,  
the cat
just flew out.  He was extremely shy, and it was snowy and  
extremely cold in
an area he didn't know (he was going back to his feeding source in  
the next
town).  This was a few years ago and I still look and ask around.   
Who knows
where he went, he may have tried to go back to where he came  
from.a

microchip wouldn't have done any good with him.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola  
cresti

Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 5:31 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

I believe I read about it that the cancer cases were still few and  
far

apart.
That being said monitor your cat, espceially the area where the  
chip was

introduced.
I have one that can't climb my patio fence so she's inside only (goes
outside
when I'm there, runs back in when I jiggle the doorhadle - smart  
little

critter)
so she's chipped but collarless.

The others are in and out and though chipped I don't want to go  
through the

time
when they're missing and then I have to look for them, so they have  
a collar


with no tag (the tags can get stuck, and if someone does pick them  
up they

have
the chip) that tells the neighbours I'm taken care of!!
But one cat in particular, in the beginning I've come home to find  
that he
slipped his paw in the collar (and is now temporarily thre-legged)  
another

time
he got it stuck in his mouth or just that he's managed to get  
himself rid of

it.
But they learn, he hasn't gotten his paw stuck in it again. He gets  
rid of

them,
but not stuck anymore. This one cat's a pickle though, he's gotten  
himself

stuf
on rneighbour's rooftops twice before (I had to get ladder and  
chase him

because
then he didn't want to be caught)

This was all the first couple of years I had him, he hasn't gotten  
himself

stuck
on a roof in the last 4 years, and he loses collars without getting  
stuck

anymore.

If they were indoor only I wouldn't worry with collars, but since  
they go

out, I
don't want them trapped/nabbed or harmed by evil people, so they  
know that

someone WILL be looking for them.

It's scary to see them in trouble that time that they got  
themselves stuck

with
the collar, but in my experience they do learn pretty fast, and  
there are so


many strays/ferals around that I want people to know this cat is  
looked

after!!  (the ferals are too, but I can't touch those)




From: Katy Doyle athenapities...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Tue, May 24, 2011 12:47:08 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Thanks Natalie. Knowledge is definitely power.

But I think I would rather keep the chip. You can treat cancer, but  
you

can't treat euthanasia at a kill shelter... :-/

Has anyone heard about tattooing cats? I know AKC dogs sometimes get
tattoos, but I have never heard of it in cats.

I want my animal to have some form of permanent identification on  
them in

case they get lost.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:40 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

Yes, there is substantiation - my vet had a few cases; one dog's  
chip
migrated and aggravated a nerve, couldn't walk until the vet  
discovered

the

chip
I have the info somewhere; will send to you directly because it  
may be

too

big to be accepted by group address.
Do they? Is there documentation on this?

I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net  
wrote:


But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat  
from

death
row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!
Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about  
scanning stray

animals that come through.

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net  
wrote:


I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that  
this

happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie


On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny

Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

2011-05-24 Thread Beth
there's pluses minuses to everythging. you have to choose what's best for your 
situation. I don't let most of my cats out so I don't collar or chip, but for 
our shelter with over 300 cats to keep track of chips are a godsend

Sent from my Verizon Wireless Phone

Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

Here's an article in Washington Post, but I also have info from a holistic
veterinarian on microchips.  I will send later when I have time to look
through my files...
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/09/08/AR2007090800
997_pf.html 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 3:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

Do they? Is there documentation on this?

I mean, what doesn't cause cancer these days?

On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 3:26 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 But were you aware that microchips can cause cancer?  I got a cat from
 death
 row in NYC, and will have chip removed...it has already migrated!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
 Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 9:09 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars

 I never bothered with collars, I went ahead and microchipped my furry
pets.
 There is a microchip clinic once a year in town that does it for $20.

 Shelters and vets around me have gotten much better about scanning stray
 animals that come through.

 On Tue, May 24, 2011 at 9:00 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

  I JUST wrote about that, too!  I thought I was the only one that this
  happened to - nobody's ever mentioned it before!  Natalie
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
  Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2011 8:54 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Collars
 
  I don't like collars on cats period. But I don't let my cats outside.
 I've
  seen several cats get those so-called break-away collars caught in their
  mouths trying to get them off. We had one at the Petsmart adoption
center
 
  luckily someone was there or who knows what would have happened.
 
  Beth
  Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!
www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/
 http://www.furkids.org/
  
  --- On Tue, 5/24/11, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 
  From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Soft Paws
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Tuesday, May 24, 2011, 6:44 AM
 
  My 15 cats lose their collars quite often and it gets expensive, so
  now I buy beautiful breakaway collars on eBay, a dozen at a time for
  $19.00 and free shipping.  I also buy ID tags that all say REWARD and
  my phone number, nothing else.  This way they are all interchangable
  and I always have a new collar ready to put on a cat who has lost
  it's collar.  Some are very clever about getting them off.
 
  Lorrie
 
 
  On 05-23, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
 
   Reminds me of the time I got Stormy a red collar with shiny
   rhinestones. Oh, it looked so pretty on her grey fur! But every day
   when I came home from work, the collar, still fastened, was sitting
   right on the front step.  Cat's way of saying, I don't even think
   so. Sigh. ~Bonnie
  
 
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