Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - rest in peace

2014-06-02 Thread Katherine K.
Lance,

I'm so, so sorry to hear about sweet, beautiful Ember. Sounds similar to
what my last 2 positive kittens had. I waited too long with the last one
and wished I hadn't. You gave Ember a wonderful life and I am sure she was
grateful for that. May the good times you shared together bring you some
comfort during this time of grief. Thank you for sharing her story with us.

Take care,
Katherine


On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:

 Oh Lance, I am so sorry to hear about Ember.  My heart goes out to you.
  May memories of happy times with Ember bring you some comfort.

 Marsha

 On 5/29/2014 6:19 PM, Lance wrote:

 What we thought was anorexia being caused by a FORL turned out to almost
 certainly be mediastinal lymphoma. The vet realized that Ember’s breathing
 was even more abnormal than the hernia had made it, and while her membranes
 were pale, her RBC was good. Radiography confirmed something in the area
 where mediastinal lymphoma (I don’t know anatomy, and the day has been a
 blur).

 There is no specialist care in this area. The closest specialist who
 could even remotely help is two hours away and is going on vacation for a
 week starting tomorrow. I could not take the risk that Ember’s condition
 would deteriorate over the weekend with no real help. I felt like she would
 either suffocate or be starved beyond good health by the time we could get
 diagnosed, staged, and chemo for her.

 I’ve always said that I wouldn’t let her suffer, and so I chose to let
 her go.

 I’ll remain subscribed, but I probably won’t be tuned in, particularly as
 I deal with the emotional process that lies ahead.

 Best to all of you and your cats,

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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - rest in peace

2014-06-02 Thread dlgegg
Lance, I understand what you are going through.  I blame myself and the vet for 
not picking up on the dehydratio and how serious it was.  I have learned, and 
the next time any cat exhibits those same symptoms I will act on my own and 
start water with a bit of sea salt to reestablish their electrolytes and start 
on raw turkey/chicken livers with a pat of butter added.  When I did this, she 
perked up and had I caught it in time, I do believe that the tonic would have 
taken care of the cancer as the tumor was dying and it was oozing just like my 
lymphoma did.  That is the only thing we can say in this situation, we have 
learned and can possibly prevent it from happening again.  Don't beat yourself 
up too much.  You acted on what you thought was the best treatment.  Second 
guessing only prolongs the agony.  Will keep you in my prayers.  And do 
remember, Ember is not in pain anymore and she did understand that you loved 
her and were trying your best.


 Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Lance,
 
 I'm so, so sorry to hear about sweet, beautiful Ember. Sounds similar to
 what my last 2 positive kittens had. I waited too long with the last one
 and wished I hadn't. You gave Ember a wonderful life and I am sure she was
 grateful for that. May the good times you shared together bring you some
 comfort during this time of grief. Thank you for sharing her story with us.
 
 Take care,
 Katherine
 
 
 On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 7:33 PM, Marsha mar...@lynxe.com wrote:
 
  Oh Lance, I am so sorry to hear about Ember.  My heart goes out to you.
   May memories of happy times with Ember bring you some comfort.
 
  Marsha
 
  On 5/29/2014 6:19 PM, Lance wrote:
 
  What we thought was anorexia being caused by a FORL turned out to almost
  certainly be mediastinal lymphoma. The vet realized that Ember’s breathing
  was even more abnormal than the hernia had made it, and while her membranes
  were pale, her RBC was good. Radiography confirmed something in the area
  where mediastinal lymphoma (I don’t know anatomy, and the day has been a
  blur).
 
  There is no specialist care in this area. The closest specialist who
  could even remotely help is two hours away and is going on vacation for a
  week starting tomorrow. I could not take the risk that Ember’s condition
  would deteriorate over the weekend with no real help. I felt like she would
  either suffocate or be starved beyond good health by the time we could get
  diagnosed, staged, and chemo for her.
 
  I’ve always said that I wouldn’t let her suffer, and so I chose to let
  her go.
 
  I’ll remain subscribed, but I probably won’t be tuned in, particularly as
  I deal with the emotional process that lies ahead.
 
  Best to all of you and your cats,
 
  Lance
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember-blood work concerns

2013-09-16 Thread Lance
Thanks, Shelley. I'll talk to the vet about diet changes. I'm looking up  
Weruva right now. 

Lance 

On Sep 15, 2013, at 11:33 AM, Shelley Theye ve...@bellsouth.net wrote:

 Hi Lance,
 
 I just wanted to mention that my cat Jack, who does not have FeLV but does 
 have heart disease and FLUTD, had high triglycerides a few years ago.  That 
 was when I was feeding grain free food with a high fat content.  The vet 
 wanted to do an abdominal ultrasound to check pancreas, etc., but I was 
 worried about the stress if he had to be on his back, etc, with his heart 
 disease, so even though I usually do whatever the vet suggests, I decided to 
 just wait and recheck blood work a month or so later, and they said I could 
 find a lower fat diet for him.  Anyway, after switching to a very low fat 
 grain free canned food, Weruva Paw-lickin Chicken, his triglycerides went 
 back to the normal range.  I think they were up in the 600's?  Can't recall 
 for sure and don't have the paperwork in front of me, and then went back to 
 somewhere in the mid normal range.  
 
 So don't really know what caused his elevated triglycerides, but guessing it 
 might have been diet related, at least for him, since they responded to the 
 diet change, unless was just coincidence.
 
 Shelley 
 
 
 On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Lance wrote:
 
 It's been a little while since I've posted about my 11 yro FeLV+ girl, 
 Ember. We did blood work for her in late May, and her BUN and lipase levels 
 were elevated. Creatinine was still within normal limits. Did a urine test, 
 and she was concentrating her urine just fine.
 
 Yesterday, I took her in for skin problems she's having, which the doc 
 thinks is dermatitis. We also ran blood work on her. Her BUN is now 45 (was 
 39), creatinine still normal, lipase high, and her triglycerides are now 
 high. I don't have numbers for everything, but the blood work results should 
 arrive this weekend. 
 
 I will probably collect urine next week to test specific gravity again. 
 Otherwise, I'm not sure of what to do. The doc says elevated lipase 
 indicates pancreatitis in dogs, but isn't quite as definitive in cats. I did 
 a little reading earlier, and I saw something about adding digestive enzymes 
 to food, and that this might help with the lipase and triglyceride levels. 
 Has anyone done this? Also, has anyone seen high BUN with normal creatinine 
 and good specific gravity? 
 
 Please let me know what you think.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember-blood work concerns

2013-09-15 Thread Shelley Theye
Hi Lance,

I just wanted to mention that my cat Jack, who does not have FeLV but does have 
heart disease and FLUTD, had high triglycerides a few years ago.  That was when 
I was feeding grain free food with a high fat content.  The vet wanted to do an 
abdominal ultrasound to check pancreas, etc., but I was worried about the 
stress if he had to be on his back, etc, with his heart disease, so even though 
I usually do whatever the vet suggests, I decided to just wait and recheck 
blood work a month or so later, and they said I could find a lower fat diet for 
him.  Anyway, after switching to a very low fat grain free canned food, Weruva 
Paw-lickin Chicken, his triglycerides went back to the normal range.  I think 
they were up in the 600's?  Can't recall for sure and don't have the paperwork 
in front of me, and then went back to somewhere in the mid normal range.  

So don't really know what caused his elevated triglycerides, but guessing it 
might have been diet related, at least for him, since they responded to the 
diet change, unless was just coincidence.

Shelley 


On Sep 13, 2013, at 9:58 PM, Lance wrote:

 It's been a little while since I've posted about my 11 yro FeLV+ girl, Ember. 
 We did blood work for her in late May, and her BUN and lipase levels were 
 elevated. Creatinine was still within normal limits. Did a urine test, and 
 she was concentrating her urine just fine.
 
 Yesterday, I took her in for skin problems she's having, which the doc thinks 
 is dermatitis. We also ran blood work on her. Her BUN is now 45 (was 39), 
 creatinine still normal, lipase high, and her triglycerides are now high. I 
 don't have numbers for everything, but the blood work results should arrive 
 this weekend. 
 
 I will probably collect urine next week to test specific gravity again. 
 Otherwise, I'm not sure of what to do. The doc says elevated lipase indicates 
 pancreatitis in dogs, but isn't quite as definitive in cats. I did a little 
 reading earlier, and I saw something about adding digestive enzymes to food, 
 and that this might help with the lipase and triglyceride levels. Has anyone 
 done this? Also, has anyone seen high BUN with normal creatinine and good 
 specific gravity? 
 
 Please let me know what you think.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Lance
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember-blood work concerns

2013-09-13 Thread dlgegg
dsHavven' done it for my cats for this reason, but added Forti flora for Csey 
and Homey who have reoccuring bouts of bladder infections.  It does help both 
of them.  Casey is 16 and Homey is 8 going on 9.

 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: 
 It's been a little while since I've posted about my 11 yro FeLV+ girl, Ember. 
 We did blood work for her in late May, and her BUN and lipase levels were 
 elevated. Creatinine was still within normal limits. Did a urine test, and 
 she was concentrating her urine just fine.
 
 Yesterday, I took her in for skin problems she's having, which the doc thinks 
 is dermatitis. We also ran blood work on her. Her BUN is now 45 (was 39), 
 creatinine still normal, lipase high, and her triglycerides are now high. I 
 don't have numbers for everything, but the blood work results should arrive 
 this weekend. 
 
 I will probably collect urine next week to test specific gravity again. 
 Otherwise, I'm not sure of what to do. The doc says elevated lipase indicates 
 pancreatitis in dogs, but isn't quite as definitive in cats. I did a little 
 reading earlier, and I saw something about adding digestive enzymes to food, 
 and that this might help with the lipase and triglyceride levels. Has anyone 
 done this? Also, has anyone seen high BUN with normal creatinine and good 
 specific gravity? 
 
 Please let me know what you think.
 
 Thanks,
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

2013-06-02 Thread Lance
Glad to hear that Gribble is doing well. It's amazing how easy it is to take 
normal for granted until we deal with FeLV, cancer, or any other problem. 
Then, normal becomes a victory and a treasure. I celebrate whenever Ember 
eats well.

The surgeon thinks that Ember has a diaphragmatic hernia, but a radiologist is 
going to confirm the results of the CT scan. I'd like to get her into surgery 
asap, as I'm concerned her symptoms are progressing. A person with a hernia is 
much easier, in that you can tell them to stop doing anything laborious or 
challenging. Cats just keep doing whatever they've always done.

Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers. I'll update when we know more.

Lance

On May 29, 2013, at 6:48 AM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:

 
 Hi Lance,
 
  They are both (knocking madly on wood) doing quite well. Better than 
 I'd expected for Gribble, he's back to normal at least for him G. Because 
 his catheterization seems to be what activated his (apparently) dormant 
 Leukemia, I'm hesitant to subject Mako to the stress of surgery. We're on a 
 watch and wait. It's possible his lump has been there for a while, so who 
 knows. His only symptoms (and what occasioned his testing) have been with 
 his eyes, and most of that is only apparent in hindsight.
 
I do tend to look to surgery even for cats with a mass that's 
 likely to re-occur, if it will add to quality of life. My Pattern had oral 
 SCC, and the growth was interfering with her eating. So it was debulked, and 
 she was able to spend another 10 months with only minor hitches. We didn't 
 use any kind of chemo, only because it has not been shown to have much effect 
 on this disease.
 
Hoping everything goes wonderfully, we're crossing fingers, toes, 
 paws and whiskers,
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

2013-06-02 Thread Margo


Hi Lance,

That's a much better diagnosis! Not a happy thing, certainly, but 
at least it is something manageable, and unrelated (I would think) to the FeLV.

I'll keep positive thoughts and best wishes heading your way.

Crossing fingers, toes, paws and whiskers, as well.

All the best to Ember, and to you.

Margo




-Original Message-
From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm
Sent: Jun 2, 2013 10:42 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

Glad to hear that Gribble is doing well. It's amazing how easy it is to take 
normal for granted until we deal with FeLV, cancer, or any other problem. 
Then, normal becomes a victory and a treasure. I celebrate whenever Ember 
eats well.

The surgeon thinks that Ember has a diaphragmatic hernia, but a radiologist is 
going to confirm the results of the CT scan. I'd like to get her into surgery 
asap, as I'm concerned her symptoms are progressing. A person with a hernia is 
much easier, in that you can tell them to stop doing anything laborious or 
challenging. Cats just keep doing whatever they've always done.

Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers. I'll update when we know more.

Lance

On May 29, 2013, at 6:48 AM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:

 
 Hi Lance,
 
  They are both (knocking madly on wood) doing quite well. Better 
 than I'd expected for Gribble, he's back to normal at least for him G. 
 Because his catheterization seems to be what activated his (apparently) 
 dormant Leukemia, I'm hesitant to subject Mako to the stress of surgery. 
 We're on a watch and wait. It's possible his lump has been there for a 
 while, so who knows. His only symptoms (and what occasioned his testing) 
 have been with his eyes, and most of that is only apparent in hindsight.
 
I do tend to look to surgery even for cats with a mass that's 
 likely to re-occur, if it will add to quality of life. My Pattern had oral 
 SCC, and the growth was interfering with her eating. So it was debulked, and 
 she was able to spend another 10 months with only minor hitches. We didn't 
 use any kind of chemo, only because it has not been shown to have much 
 effect on this disease.
 
Hoping everything goes wonderfully, we're crossing fingers, toes, 
 paws and whiskers,
 
 Margo and the Kids
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

2013-06-02 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Thanks for the update, Lance
Still holding a good thought for you and your little Ember!
Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lance
Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2013 7:43 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

Glad to hear that Gribble is doing well. It's amazing how easy it is to take
normal for granted until we deal with FeLV, cancer, or any other problem.
Then, normal becomes a victory and a treasure. I celebrate whenever Ember
eats well.

The surgeon thinks that Ember has a diaphragmatic hernia, but a radiologist
is going to confirm the results of the CT scan. I'd like to get her into
surgery asap, as I'm concerned her symptoms are progressing. A person with a
hernia is much easier, in that you can tell them to stop doing anything
laborious or challenging. Cats just keep doing whatever they've always done.

Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers. I'll update when we know more.

Lance

On May 29, 2013, at 6:48 AM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:

 
 Hi Lance,
 
  They are both (knocking madly on wood) doing quite well. Better
than I'd expected for Gribble, he's back to normal at least for him G.
Because his catheterization seems to be what activated his (apparently)
dormant Leukemia, I'm hesitant to subject Mako to the stress of surgery.
We're on a watch and wait. It's possible his lump has been there for a
while, so who knows. His only symptoms (and what occasioned his testing)
have been with his eyes, and most of that is only apparent in hindsight.
 
I do tend to look to surgery even for cats with a mass that's
likely to re-occur, if it will add to quality of life. My Pattern had oral
SCC, and the growth was interfering with her eating. So it was debulked, and
she was able to spend another 10 months with only minor hitches. We didn't
use any kind of chemo, only because it has not been shown to have much
effect on this disease.
 
Hoping everything goes wonderfully, we're crossing fingers,
toes, paws and whiskers,
 
 Margo and the Kids
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

2013-05-29 Thread Margo


Hi Lance,

  They are both (knocking madly on wood) doing quite well. Better than 
I'd expected for Gribble, he's back to normal at least for him G. Because 
his catheterization seems to be what activated his (apparently) dormant 
Leukemia, I'm hesitant to subject Mako to the stress of surgery. We're on a 
watch and wait. It's possible his lump has been there for a while, so who 
knows. His only symptoms (and what occasioned his testing) have been with his 
eyes, and most of that is only apparent in hindsight.

I do tend to look to surgery even for cats with a mass that's 
likely to re-occur, if it will add to quality of life. My Pattern had oral SCC, 
and the growth was interfering with her eating. So it was debulked, and she was 
able to spend another 10 months with only minor hitches. We didn't use any kind 
of chemo, only because it has not been shown to have much effect on this 
disease.

Hoping everything goes wonderfully, we're crossing fingers, toes, 
paws and whiskers,

Margo and the Kids


-Original Message-
From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm
Sent: May 28, 2013 6:26 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

Thank you everyone for your thoughts and prayers. I really appreciate them.

Margo, it's so hard to know what to do. In Ember's case, I feel like the 
surgeon will probably want to go ahead with surgery, unless it's obvious that 
something (other than the lung mass) is very wrong. I've seen articles online 
that indicate that a thoracotomy might be performed even when the disease has 
metastasized out of the lungs. I don't understand why one would put a cat 
through that if he or she is only going to have to deal with another cancer 
not long after recovering from the surgery.

How is Gribble doing now?

Lance

On May 28, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:

 
 
 Dear Lance,
 
   I hope that you will find something treatable. My Mako also has a 
 mass, and we keep going back and forth with how to proceed.
 
   My thoughts will be with you and Ember, hoping for a good result.
 
   Please let us know how it goes...
 
 Margo, Mako and Gribble.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

2013-05-28 Thread Margo


Dear Lance,

   I hope that you will find something treatable. My Mako also has a 
mass, and we keep going back and forth with how to proceed.

   My thoughts will be with you and Ember, hoping for a good result.

   Please let us know how it goes...

Margo, Mako and Gribble.


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From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm
Sent: May 28, 2013 12:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

We're taking Ember to a veterinary surgeon in another town tomorrow. The main 
reason for going is to get diagnostics and finally know for sure what the lung 
mass is. I should have done this a month ago, and I'm kicking myself for not 
having been aggressive. 

Depending on what the vet says, he might be opening Ember up tomorrow to 
remove the tumor. I have big reservations about this, which is why I didn't 
pursue things more previously. But as I watched Ember eat last Thursday night, 
it occurred to me that I should at least find out what this is and give Ember 
the possibility of more time. She's been such a wonderful cat, and I'd love to 
have more time with her, if that's possible.

Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

2013-05-28 Thread Amanda K. Payne
Lance,

I'm definitely keeping you and Ember in my thoughts!  I hope her procedure
tomorrow goes well and you get some good news.

Best,
-Amanda


On Tue, May 28, 2013 at 9:05 AM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 We're taking Ember to a veterinary surgeon in another town tomorrow. The
 main reason for going is to get diagnostics and finally know for sure what
 the lung mass is. I should have done this a month ago, and I'm kicking
 myself for not having been aggressive.

 Depending on what the vet says, he might be opening Ember up tomorrow to
 remove the tumor. I have big reservations about this, which is why I didn't
 pursue things more previously. But as I watched Ember eat last Thursday
 night, it occurred to me that I should at least find out what this is and
 give Ember the possibility of more time. She's been such a wonderful cat,
 and I'd love to have more time with her, if that's possible.

 Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers.

 Lance
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

2013-05-28 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Lance, you and Ember are in my thoughts and prayers.  May all go well!
Hugs
Bonnie

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Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:06 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

We're taking Ember to a veterinary surgeon in another town tomorrow. The
main reason for going is to get diagnostics and finally know for sure what
the lung mass is. I should have done this a month ago, and I'm kicking
myself for not having been aggressive. 

Depending on what the vet says, he might be opening Ember up tomorrow to
remove the tumor. I have big reservations about this, which is why I didn't
pursue things more previously. But as I watched Ember eat last Thursday
night, it occurred to me that I should at least find out what this is and
give Ember the possibility of more time. She's been such a wonderful cat,
and I'd love to have more time with her, if that's possible.

Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

2013-05-28 Thread Maryam Ulomi
You are all in my thoughts and prayers

Sent from my iPhone.

On May 28, 2013, at 13:51, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:

 Lance, you and Ember are in my thoughts and prayers.  May all go well!
 Hugs
 Bonnie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 Lance
 Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 9:06 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember exam
 
 We're taking Ember to a veterinary surgeon in another town tomorrow. The
 main reason for going is to get diagnostics and finally know for sure what
 the lung mass is. I should have done this a month ago, and I'm kicking
 myself for not having been aggressive. 
 
 Depending on what the vet says, he might be opening Ember up tomorrow to
 remove the tumor. I have big reservations about this, which is why I didn't
 pursue things more previously. But as I watched Ember eat last Thursday
 night, it occurred to me that I should at least find out what this is and
 give Ember the possibility of more time. She's been such a wonderful cat,
 and I'd love to have more time with her, if that's possible.
 
 Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

2013-05-28 Thread Beth
Good luck Lance. You  Ember are in my thoughts.

Beth


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 From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, May 28, 2013 12:05 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember exam
 

We're taking Ember to a veterinary surgeon in another town tomorrow. The main 
reason for going is to get diagnostics and finally know for sure what the lung 
mass is. I should have done this a month ago, and I'm kicking myself for not 
having been aggressive. 

Depending on what the vet says, he might be opening Ember up tomorrow to remove 
the tumor. I have big reservations about this, which is why I didn't pursue 
things more previously. But as I watched Ember eat last Thursday night, it 
occurred to me that I should at least find out what this is and give Ember the 
possibility of more time. She's been such a wonderful cat, and I'd love to have 
more time with her, if that's possible.

Please keep us in your thoughts and prayers.

Lance
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember exam

2013-05-28 Thread Lance
Thank you everyone for your thoughts and prayers. I really appreciate them.

Margo, it's so hard to know what to do. In Ember's case, I feel like the 
surgeon will probably want to go ahead with surgery, unless it's obvious that 
something (other than the lung mass) is very wrong. I've seen articles online 
that indicate that a thoracotomy might be performed even when the disease has 
metastasized out of the lungs. I don't understand why one would put a cat 
through that if he or she is only going to have to deal with another cancer not 
long after recovering from the surgery.

How is Gribble doing now?

Lance

On May 28, 2013, at 11:19 AM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:

 
 
 Dear Lance,
 
   I hope that you will find something treatable. My Mako also has a 
 mass, and we keep going back and forth with how to proceed.
 
   My thoughts will be with you and Ember, hoping for a good result.
 
   Please let us know how it goes...
 
 Margo, Mako and Gribble.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-05-14 Thread kellymachado
-pet Original Message -
From: Margo lt;toomanykitti...@earthlink.netgt;
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sun, 12 May 2013 20:30:18 - (UTC)
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
I've seen it listed at Chewy.com;
http://www.chewy.com/cat/wet-food-389/tiki-cat
and at Wags;
http://www.wag.com/cat/p/tiki-cat-king-kamehameha-luau-variety-pack-146352



Pet Supplies Plus carries many varieties and will order any they dont routinely 
have in stock.
Too much fish for my FLUTD guys.
^..^
-Original Message-
From: dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: May 12, 2013 3:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

Where do you get Tiki Cat? I have never seen it at Petsmart.
,
 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: 
 I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF. Tiki Cat 
 has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm feeding her a 
 2.8 oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different brand of food 
 as she'll eat. 
 
 On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
  Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a 
  little, though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL


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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-05-14 Thread I-Chun C. C. Chang
I have been using petflow for small brand and prescription food, including
tiki cat:
http://www.petflow.com/
Petflow ships quickly and has pretty good deals.


On Tue, May 14, 2013 at 5:22 PM, kellymach...@comcast.net wrote:

 -pet Original Message -
 From: Margo lt;toomanykitti...@earthlink.netgt;
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Sun, 12 May 2013 20:30:18 - (UTC)
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
 I've seen it listed at Chewy.com;
 http://www.chewy.com/cat/wet-food-389/tiki-cat
 and at Wags;
 http://www.wag.com/cat/p/tiki-cat-king-kamehameha-luau-variety-pack-146352



 Pet Supplies Plus carries many varieties and will order any they dont
 routinely have in stock.
 Too much fish for my FLUTD guys.
 ^..^
 -Original Message-
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: May 12, 2013 3:22 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
 
 Where do you get Tiki Cat? I have never seen it at Petsmart.
 ,
  Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:
  I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF.
 Tiki Cat has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm
 feeding her a 2.8 oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different
 brand of food as she'll eat.
 
  On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com
 wrote:
 
   Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a
 little, though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-05-12 Thread dlgegg
Where do you get Tiki Cat?  I have never seen it at Petsmart.

 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: 
 I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF. Tiki Cat 
 has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm feeding her a 2.8 
 oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different brand of food as 
 she'll eat. 
 
 On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
  Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a 
  little, though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL


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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-05-12 Thread Margo
I've seen it listed at Chewy.com;

http://www.chewy.com/cat/wet-food-389/tiki-cat

and at Wags;

http://www.wag.com/cat/p/tiki-cat-king-kamehameha-luau-variety-pack-146352

Too much fish for my FLUTD guys.

^..^


-Original Message-
From: dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: May 12, 2013 3:22 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

Where do you get Tiki Cat?  I have never seen it at Petsmart.
,
 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: 
 I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF. Tiki Cat 
 has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm feeding her a 
 2.8 oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different brand of food 
 as she'll eat. 
 
 On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
  Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a 
  little, though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL


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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-05-12 Thread Lance
http://wholepetsholistic.com/store/

I order from those folks.

On May 12, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:

 I've seen it listed at Chewy.com;
 
 http://www.chewy.com/cat/wet-food-389/tiki-cat
 
 and at Wags;
 
 http://www.wag.com/cat/p/tiki-cat-king-kamehameha-luau-variety-pack-146352
 
 Too much fish for my FLUTD guys.
 
 ^..^
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: May 12, 2013 3:22 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
 
 Where do you get Tiki Cat?  I have never seen it at Petsmart.
 ,
  Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: 
 I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF. Tiki 
 Cat has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm feeding her 
 a 2.8 oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different brand of 
 food as she'll eat. 
 
 On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
 Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a 
 little, though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-05-12 Thread cerwin
Smaller pet stores, not chain stores, tend to have it too.

Chris C.


From: Lance 
Sent: Sunday, May 12, 2013 3:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

http://wholepetsholistic.com/store/

I order from those folks.

On May 12, 2013, at 3:30 PM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:


  I've seen it listed at Chewy.com;

  http://www.chewy.com/cat/wet-food-389/tiki-cat

  and at Wags;

  http://www.wag.com/cat/p/tiki-cat-king-kamehameha-luau-variety-pack-146352

  Too much fish for my FLUTD guys.


^..^



  -Original Message-

From: dlg...@windstream.net

Sent: May 12, 2013 3:22 PM

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember



Where do you get Tiki Cat?  I have never seen it at Petsmart.

,

 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: 

  I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF. Tiki 
Cat has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm feeding her a 
2.8 oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different brand of food as 
she'll eat. 



  On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com 
wrote:



Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a 
little, though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL





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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-05-09 Thread Heather
Sending good thoughts to Ember and to you.  My Shiiva (not felv+) is just
turning 18 and I know we are at the end of her 2+ year battle with tracheal
cancer--however, the past 2+ years have been a pure miracle since we
initially nearly lost her to the cancer in November of 2013, and there is
very little data on cats with this sort of cancer being successfully
treated.

A couple of small things that of course won't cure cancer, but I think have
helped her appetite and keeping her feeling well are B-12 shots  fluids
weekly.  There is a supplement often mentioned on the Feline Cancer group
called ES Clear, it was available on the Pet Wellbeing site but I don't see
it available now, though there is another product:
http://www.petwellbeing.com/products/cat-cancer#ingredients

We like to sometimes take the juice from Fancy Feast Fish  Shrimp feast
and add it to other foods to make them extra tasty.

Best wishes,

Heather

On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

  I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF. Tiki
 Cat has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm feeding her
 a 2.8 oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different brand of
 food as she'll eat.

  On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com
 wrote:

   Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a
 little, though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL


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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-05-09 Thread Lance
Thank you, Heather. We need all the thoughts, prayers, good vibes, etc. that we 
can get. We're looking at possible metastasized cancer. Still monitoring a 
likely mass in her lungs, and her extreme anisocoria may be caused by a small 
tumor. That's an unknown right now. 

I'm glad that you've gotten such a good amount of time with Shiiva, and that 
she has been one of the exceptional cases that defies what is generally 
expected with cancer. I read about these cases, and while I know they're not 
the norm, they do give me hope. 

I'm considering a B-12 shot for Ember. We did one about six weeks ago, and 
while I'm not sure that it helped, I'm willing to give it another try. I've 
been looking at Life Gold, which is the current cancer supplement made by Pet 
Wellbeing. I've seen it mentioned on the Yahoo! feline cancer list. I'm waiting 
to talk to the holistic vet about it before I order. I might try the juice 
trick you mentioned. I hear tuna water works for that, too.

Best to you and Shiiva,

Lance

On May 9, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sending good thoughts to Ember and to you.  My Shiiva (not felv+) is just 
 turning 18 and I know we are at the end of her 2+ year battle with tracheal 
 cancer--however, the past 2+ years have been a pure miracle since we 
 initially nearly lost her to the cancer in November of 2013, and there is 
 very little data on cats with this sort of cancer being successfully treated.
  
 A couple of small things that of course won't cure cancer, but I think have 
 helped her appetite and keeping her feeling well are B-12 shots  fluids 
 weekly.  There is a supplement often mentioned on the Feline Cancer group 
 called ES Clear, it was available on the Pet Wellbeing site but I don't see 
 it available now, though there is another product:  
 http://www.petwellbeing.com/products/cat-cancer#ingredients
  
 We like to sometimes take the juice from Fancy Feast Fish  Shrimp feast and 
 add it to other foods to make them extra tasty.
  
 Best wishes,
  
 Heather
 
 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF. Tiki Cat 
 has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm feeding her a 2.8 
 oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different brand of food as 
 she'll eat. 
 
 On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
 Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a little, 
 though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-05-09 Thread Beth
Glad to hear the update on Ember, Lance!


 
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 From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:16 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
 


Thank you, Heather. We need all the thoughts, prayers, good vibes, etc. that we 
can get. We're looking at possible metastasized cancer. Still monitoring a 
likely mass in her lungs, and her extreme anisocoria may be caused by a small 
tumor. That's an unknown right now. 

I'm glad that you've gotten such a good amount of time with Shiiva, and that 
she has been one of the exceptional cases that defies what is generally 
expected with cancer. I read about these cases, and while I know they're not 
the norm, they do give me hope. 

I'm considering a B-12 shot for Ember. We did one about six weeks ago, and 
while I'm not sure that it helped, I'm willing to give it another try. I've 
been looking at Life Gold, which is the current cancer supplement made by Pet 
Wellbeing. I've seen it mentioned on the Yahoo! feline cancer list. I'm waiting 
to talk to the holistic vet about it before I order. I might try the juice 
trick you mentioned. I hear tuna water works for that, too.

Best to you and Shiiva,

Lance

On May 9, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote:

Sending good thoughts to Ember and to you.  My Shiiva (not felv+) is just 
turning 18 and I know we are at the end of her 2+ year battle with tracheal 
cancer--however, the past 2+ years have been a pure miracle since we initially 
nearly lost her to the cancer in November of 2013, and there is very little 
data on cats with this sort of cancer being successfully treated.
 
A couple of small things that of course won't cure cancer, but I think have 
helped her appetite and keeping her feeling well are B-12 shots  fluids 
weekly.  There is a supplement often mentioned on the Feline Cancer group 
called ES Clear, it was available on the Pet Wellbeing site but I don't see it 
available now, though there is another product:  
http://www.petwellbeing.com/products/cat-cancer#ingredients
 
We like to sometimes take the juice from Fancy Feast Fish  Shrimp feast and 
add it to other foods to make them extra tasty.
 
Best wishes,
 
Heather


On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF. Tiki Cat 
has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm feeding her a 2.8 
oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different brand of food as 
she'll eat. 


On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote:

Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a little, 
though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-05-09 Thread Maryam Ulomi
Keeping you in our prayers!
God bless you for all you do for them!

Sent from my iPad

On May 9, 2013, at 17:17, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Glad to hear the update on Ember, Lance!
 
  
 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
  
 
 From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 5:16 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
 
 Thank you, Heather. We need all the thoughts, prayers, good vibes, etc. that 
 we can get. We're looking at possible metastasized cancer. Still monitoring a 
 likely mass in her lungs, and her extreme anisocoria may be caused by a small 
 tumor. That's an unknown right now. 
 
 I'm glad that you've gotten such a good amount of time with Shiiva, and that 
 she has been one of the exceptional cases that defies what is generally 
 expected with cancer. I read about these cases, and while I know they're not 
 the norm, they do give me hope. 
 
 I'm considering a B-12 shot for Ember. We did one about six weeks ago, and 
 while I'm not sure that it helped, I'm willing to give it another try. I've 
 been looking at Life Gold, which is the current cancer supplement made by Pet 
 Wellbeing. I've seen it mentioned on the Yahoo! feline cancer list. I'm 
 waiting to talk to the holistic vet about it before I order. I might try the 
 juice trick you mentioned. I hear tuna water works for that, too.
 
 Best to you and Shiiva,
 
 Lance
 
 On May 9, 2013, at 2:34 PM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Sending good thoughts to Ember and to you.  My Shiiva (not felv+) is just 
 turning 18 and I know we are at the end of her 2+ year battle with tracheal 
 cancer--however, the past 2+ years have been a pure miracle since we 
 initially nearly lost her to the cancer in November of 2013, and there is 
 very little data on cats with this sort of cancer being successfully treated.
  
 A couple of small things that of course won't cure cancer, but I think have 
 helped her appetite and keeping her feeling well are B-12 shots  fluids 
 weekly.  There is a supplement often mentioned on the Feline Cancer group 
 called ES Clear, it was available on the Pet Wellbeing site but I don't see 
 it available now, though there is another product:  
 http://www.petwellbeing.com/products/cat-cancer#ingredients
  
 We like to sometimes take the juice from Fancy Feast Fish  Shrimp feast and 
 add it to other foods to make them extra tasty.
  
 Best wishes,
  
 Heather
 
 On Wed, May 8, 2013 at 6:48 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF. Tiki Cat 
 has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm feeding her a 
 2.8 oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different brand of food 
 as she'll eat. 
 
 On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote:
 
 Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a 
 little, though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-05-08 Thread Lance
I may have discovered something that Ember likes even more than FF. Tiki Cat 
has two chicken formulas, and she adores both of those. I'm feeding her a 2.8 
oz can a day, along with as much of a can of a different brand of food as 
she'll eat. 

On Apr 23, 2013, at 11:07 AM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote:

 Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a little, 
 though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-04-23 Thread Lance
Thank you for thinking of Ember, Cheri and El. 

She seems to be doing okay today. I got her to eat last night by feeding Fancy 
Feast Classic Chicken Feast. In another post, Christiane had suggested this as 
being like chocolate cake to cats, and Ember agrees. Unfortunately, the 
ingredients aren't the best, but at this point, just keeping her eating and 
well-fed seems like the main thing to do.

She also likes Prescription Diet t/d, which she thinks is a treat. Before she 
tested positive, that's the only food she ate. I didn't know any better, but 
she was fine with it. 

On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Cheri Le cheri...@comcast.net wrote:

 Thinking and praying 4 ember!!!
 
 CHERI
 
 On Apr 22, 2013, at 9:42 PM, designercats cats designerc...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 
 Lance, you and Ember are in my thoughts and prayers. 
 El
  
  From: lini...@fastmail.fm
  Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:35:42 -0500
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
  
  Thank you, Beth, Sharyl, and Bonnie for thinking about my girl. She has a 
  vet visit tomorrow. We’ll see how the lung mass has changed, and we’ll get 
  a new cbc. Ember isn’t eating as well as I would like, but she sure loves 
  her treats (Prescription Diet t/d – it could be worse). I've also caught 
  her sitting in a slightly unusual position, and that makes me really hope 
  that she's not in any pain or even mild discomfort.
  
  
  On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
  
   You've got it, Lance! You and Ember are in loving/healing thoughts and
   prayers.
   Bonnie
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
   Lance
   Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:59 AM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember
   
   Please pray for or send good vibes to my sweet FeLV+ girl Ember. She has 
   a
   mass in her lungs and possibly eye cancer. She has been breathing faster
   than usual, though it doesn't sound labored. She was very restless last
   night, too, which makes me concerned that she's in pain or at least
   uncomfortable. She ate fairly well this morning, and she's itching to 
   leave
   our room and go to another one. Anyway, please keep us in your thoughts.
   
   Lance
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-04-23 Thread Lee Evans
There is relatively new treatment for tumors and cancers. It's called 
Neoplasene. There is a Yahoo group called Neoplasene for Cancer. See if you can 
go there and get some information. I'm currently dealing with a former colony 
cat (tame) who has bone cancer on her right hind thigh. Although the ointment 
didn't do much for it - big ugly mess of a tumor broke through the skin, she is 
eating like a trooper and acting happy. I'm going to try the internal Neo to 
see if it will reduce the tumor. There is a wonderful holistic vet in San 
Antonio. He has saved several of my cats with magic formulas. Look up 
Neoplasene on Google and you'll find a lot of info.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!






 From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
 


Thank you for thinking of Ember, Cheri and El. 


She seems to be doing okay today. I got her to eat last night by feeding Fancy 
Feast Classic Chicken Feast. In another post, Christiane had suggested this as 
being like chocolate cake to cats, and Ember agrees. Unfortunately, the 
ingredients aren't the best, but at this point, just keeping her eating and 
well-fed seems like the main thing to do.


She also likes Prescription Diet t/d, which she thinks is a treat. Before she 
tested positive, that's the only food she ate. I didn't know any better, but 
she was fine with it. 


On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Cheri Le cheri...@comcast.net wrote:

Thinking and praying 4 ember!!!

CHERI

On Apr 22, 2013, at 9:42 PM, designercats cats designerc...@hotmail.com 
wrote:


 
Lance, you and Ember are in my thoughts and prayers. 
El
 

 From: lini...@fastmail.fm
 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:35:42 -0500
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
 
 Thank you, Beth, Sharyl, and Bonnie for thinking about my girl. She has a 
 vet visit tomorrow. We’ll see how the lung mass has changed, and we’ll get 
 a new cbc. Ember isn’t eating as well as I would like, but she sure loves 
 her treats (Prescription Diet t/d – it could be worse). I've also caught 
 her sitting in a slightly unusual position, and that makes me really hope 
 that she's not in any pain or even mild discomfort.
 
 
 On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
 
  You've got it, Lance!  You and Ember are in loving/healing thoughts and
  prayers.
  Bonnie
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
  Lance
  Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:59 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember
  
  Please pray for or send good vibes to my sweet FeLV+ girl Ember. She has 
  a
  mass in her lungs and possibly eye cancer. She has been breathing faster
  than usual, though it doesn't sound labored. She was very restless last
  night, too, which makes me concerned that she's in pain or at least
  uncomfortable. She ate fairly well this morning, and she's itching to 
  leave
  our room and go to another one. Anyway, please keep us in your thoughts.
  
  Lance
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-04-23 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Glad to hear she had a good night.  Good luck with everything at the vet today. 
 Best wishes  positive vibes to both of you!  We know how hard these times can 
be…

Bonnie

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lance
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 5:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

 

Thank you for thinking of Ember, Cheri and El. 

 

She seems to be doing okay today. I got her to eat last night by feeding Fancy 
Feast Classic Chicken Feast. In another post, Christiane had suggested this as 
being like chocolate cake to cats, and Ember agrees. Unfortunately, the 
ingredients aren't the best, but at this point, just keeping her eating and 
well-fed seems like the main thing to do.

 

She also likes Prescription Diet t/d, which she thinks is a treat. Before she 
tested positive, that's the only food she ate. I didn't know any better, but 
she was fine with it. 

 

On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Cheri Le cheri...@comcast.net wrote:





Thinking and praying 4 ember!!!

CHERI


On Apr 22, 2013, at 9:42 PM, designercats cats designerc...@hotmail.com wrote:

Lance, you and Ember are in my thoughts and prayers. 
El
 

 From: lini...@fastmail.fm
 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:35:42 -0500
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
 
 Thank you, Beth, Sharyl, and Bonnie for thinking about my girl. She has a vet 
 visit tomorrow. We’ll see how the lung mass has changed, and we’ll get a new 
 cbc. Ember isn’t eating as well as I would like, but she sure loves her 
 treats (Prescription Diet t/d – it could be worse). I've also caught her 
 sitting in a slightly unusual position, and that makes me really hope that 
 she's not in any pain or even mild discomfort.
 
 
 On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
 
  You've got it, Lance! You and Ember are in loving/healing thoughts and
  prayers.
  Bonnie
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
  Lance
  Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:59 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember
  
  Please pray for or send good vibes to my sweet FeLV+ girl Ember. She has a
  mass in her lungs and possibly eye cancer. She has been breathing faster
  than usual, though it doesn't sound labored. She was very restless last
  night, too, which makes me concerned that she's in pain or at least
  uncomfortable. She ate fairly well this morning, and she's itching to leave
  our room and go to another one. Anyway, please keep us in your thoughts.
  
  Lance
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-04-23 Thread Christiane Biagi
Sometimes, you can mix in a little of another food w. the FF… Just a little, 
though—they figure it out and then turn up their noses! LOL

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lance
Sent: Tuesday, April 23, 2013 8:38 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

 

Thank you for thinking of Ember, Cheri and El. 

 

She seems to be doing okay today. I got her to eat last night by feeding Fancy 
Feast Classic Chicken Feast. In another post, Christiane had suggested this as 
being like chocolate cake to cats, and Ember agrees. Unfortunately, the 
ingredients aren't the best, but at this point, just keeping her eating and 
well-fed seems like the main thing to do.

 

She also likes Prescription Diet t/d, which she thinks is a treat. Before she 
tested positive, that's the only food she ate. I didn't know any better, but 
she was fine with it. 

 

On Apr 22, 2013, at 8:52 PM, Cheri Le cheri...@comcast.net wrote:





Thinking and praying 4 ember!!!

CHERI


On Apr 22, 2013, at 9:42 PM, designercats cats designerc...@hotmail.com wrote:

Lance, you and Ember are in my thoughts and prayers. 
El
 

 From: lini...@fastmail.fm
 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:35:42 -0500
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
 
 Thank you, Beth, Sharyl, and Bonnie for thinking about my girl. She has a vet 
 visit tomorrow. We’ll see how the lung mass has changed, and we’ll get a new 
 cbc. Ember isn’t eating as well as I would like, but she sure loves her 
 treats (Prescription Diet t/d – it could be worse). I've also caught her 
 sitting in a slightly unusual position, and that makes me really hope that 
 she's not in any pain or even mild discomfort.
 
 
 On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
 
  You've got it, Lance! You and Ember are in loving/healing thoughts and
  prayers.
  Bonnie
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
  Lance
  Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:59 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember
  
  Please pray for or send good vibes to my sweet FeLV+ girl Ember. She has a
  mass in her lungs and possibly eye cancer. She has been breathing faster
  than usual, though it doesn't sound labored. She was very restless last
  night, too, which makes me concerned that she's in pain or at least
  uncomfortable. She ate fairly well this morning, and she's itching to leave
  our room and go to another one. Anyway, please keep us in your thoughts.
  
  Lance
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-04-22 Thread Beth
Thinking of you  Ember, Lance.

Beth


Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



 From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:59 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember
 

Please pray for or send good vibes to my sweet FeLV+ girl Ember. She has a mass 
in her lungs and possibly eye cancer. She has been breathing faster than usual, 
though it doesn't sound labored. She was very restless last night, too, which 
makes me concerned that she's in pain or at least uncomfortable. She ate fairly 
well this morning, and she's itching to leave our room and go to another one. 
Anyway, please keep us in your thoughts.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-04-22 Thread Sharyl
You both are in my thoughts and prayers
Sharyl
 


 From: Lance lini...@fastmail.fm
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 8:59 AM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember
  

Please pray for or send good vibes to my sweet FeLV+ girl Ember. She has a mass 
in her lungs and possibly eye cancer. She has been breathing faster than usual, 
though it doesn't sound labored. She was very restless last night, too, which 
makes me concerned that she's in pain or at least uncomfortable. She ate fairly 
well this morning, and she's itching to leave our room and go to another one. 
Anyway, please keep us in your thoughts.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-04-22 Thread Bonnie Hogue
You've got it, Lance!  You and Ember are in loving/healing thoughts and
prayers.
Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lance
Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember

Please pray for or send good vibes to my sweet FeLV+ girl Ember. She has a
mass in her lungs and possibly eye cancer. She has been breathing faster
than usual, though it doesn't sound labored. She was very restless last
night, too, which makes me concerned that she's in pain or at least
uncomfortable. She ate fairly well this morning, and she's itching to leave
our room and go to another one. Anyway, please keep us in your thoughts.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-04-22 Thread Lance
Thank you, Beth, Sharyl, and Bonnie for thinking about my girl. She has a vet 
visit tomorrow. We’ll see how the lung mass has changed, and we’ll get a new 
cbc. Ember isn’t eating as well as I would like, but she sure loves her treats 
(Prescription Diet t/d – it could be worse). I've also caught her sitting in a 
slightly unusual position, and that makes me really hope that she's not in any 
pain or even mild discomfort.


On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:

 You've got it, Lance!  You and Ember are in loving/healing thoughts and
 prayers.
 Bonnie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 Lance
 Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:59 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember
 
 Please pray for or send good vibes to my sweet FeLV+ girl Ember. She has a
 mass in her lungs and possibly eye cancer. She has been breathing faster
 than usual, though it doesn't sound labored. She was very restless last
 night, too, which makes me concerned that she's in pain or at least
 uncomfortable. She ate fairly well this morning, and she's itching to leave
 our room and go to another one. Anyway, please keep us in your thoughts.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-04-22 Thread designercats cats
Lance, you and Ember are in my thoughts and prayers. El
  From: lini...@fastmail.fm
 Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:35:42 -0500
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
 
 Thank you, Beth, Sharyl, and Bonnie for thinking about my girl. She has a vet 
 visit tomorrow. We’ll see how the lung mass has changed, and we’ll get a new 
 cbc. Ember isn’t eating as well as I would like, but she sure loves her 
 treats (Prescription Diet t/d – it could be worse). I've also caught her 
 sitting in a slightly unusual position, and that makes me really hope that 
 she's not in any pain or even mild discomfort.
 
 
 On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
 
  You've got it, Lance!  You and Ember are in loving/healing thoughts and
  prayers.
  Bonnie
  
  -Original Message-
  From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
  Lance
  Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:59 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember
  
  Please pray for or send good vibes to my sweet FeLV+ girl Ember. She has a
  mass in her lungs and possibly eye cancer. She has been breathing faster
  than usual, though it doesn't sound labored. She was very restless last
  night, too, which makes me concerned that she's in pain or at least
  uncomfortable. She ate fairly well this morning, and she's itching to leave
  our room and go to another one. Anyway, please keep us in your thoughts.
  
  Lance
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember

2013-04-22 Thread Cheri Le
Thinking and praying 4 ember!!!

CHERI

On Apr 22, 2013, at 9:42 PM, designercats cats designerc...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Lance, you and Ember are in my thoughts and prayers. 
 El
  
  From: lini...@fastmail.fm
  Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 20:35:42 -0500
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember
  
  Thank you, Beth, Sharyl, and Bonnie for thinking about my girl. She has a 
  vet visit tomorrow. We’ll see how the lung mass has changed, and we’ll get 
  a new cbc. Ember isn’t eating as well as I would like, but she sure loves 
  her treats (Prescription Diet t/d – it could be worse). I've also caught 
  her sitting in a slightly unusual position, and that makes me really hope 
  that she's not in any pain or even mild discomfort.
  
  
  On Apr 22, 2013, at 5:52 PM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
  
   You've got it, Lance! You and Ember are in loving/healing thoughts and
   prayers.
   Bonnie
   
   -Original Message-
   From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
   Lance
   Sent: Monday, April 22, 2013 5:59 AM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: [Felvtalk] Ember
   
   Please pray for or send good vibes to my sweet FeLV+ girl Ember. She has a
   mass in her lungs and possibly eye cancer. She has been breathing faster
   than usual, though it doesn't sound labored. She was very restless last
   night, too, which makes me concerned that she's in pain or at least
   uncomfortable. She ate fairly well this morning, and she's itching to 
   leave
   our room and go to another one. Anyway, please keep us in your thoughts.
   
   Lance
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-31 Thread Lance
We tested Ember again, and her wbc had gone back up to ~3.85, which is 
normal. Unfortunately, two other symptoms have manifested. Ember's left 
pupil, which has been abnormally large due to anisocoria likely caused by FeLV, 
is now fully open. We don't know why this is, but the vet thinks this could 
indicate cancer. 

In addition to that, the vet x-rayed Ember to see if she might have a fungal 
infection, and she found a mass in Ember's lungs. Ember doesn't have breathing 
difficulties, but the mass is such that there isn't a good way to access it. I 
really don't want to subject her to a thoracotomy. A urine test turned up no 
antigen for a fungal infection.

I'm not sure what to do next. The vet said that another vet could do a CT scan. 
The same clinic (about an hour and a half away) could also do a test of Ember's 
left eye to see if cancer is involved. I don't know what that information would 
get us, however.

Does anyone have experience with eye cancer or lung cancer in cats? I've been 
reading about Agaricus blazeii thanks to KG BarnCats, and I'm hoping that might 
slow the progress of whatever it is we're dealing with. I'm going to post to 
the feline cancer list on Yahoo!, but I'm wondering what people here might 
think.

Thanks,

Lance
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-31 Thread designercats cats
Hi LanceEmber may have lymphoma.  Several of the FeLV+ cats I've had stay 
extremely healthy for about 4 1/2 - 5 years and then develop lymphoma. I've had 
one with cns lymphoma, another with mediastinal lymphoma, and now also Mattie.  
Her tumours couldn't be removed but went away with iv chemo within the first 
month. One of them took up most of her bladder so it was inoperable.To 
determine what it is, and if you choose to treat it, you need biopsies taken at 
a good radiologist. They can be done using ultrasound and fna.  Mattie has done 
extremely well on chemo and went into remission after a month. Only one week 
did she have a bit low wbc but that went up. I have her on a supplement called 
Onco Support by Rx Vitamins and now the Agaricus blazei. Hope this helps,El 
  From: lini...@fastmaail.fm
 Date: Sun, 31 Mar 2013 17:52:39 -0500
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc
 
 We tested Ember again, and her wbc had gone back up to ~3.85, which is 
 normal. Unfortunately, two other symptoms have manifested. Ember's left 
 pupil, which has been abnormally large due to anisocoria likely caused by 
 FeLV, is now fully open. We don't know why this is, but the vet thinks this 
 could indicate cancer. 
 
 In addition to that, the vet x-rayed Ember to see if she might have a fungal 
 infection, and she found a mass in Ember's lungs. Ember doesn't have 
 breathing difficulties, but the mass is such that there isn't a good way to 
 access it. I really don't want to subject her to a thoracotomy. A urine test 
 turned up no antigen for a fungal infection.
 
 I'm not sure what to do next. The vet said that another vet could do a CT 
 scan. The same clinic (about an hour and a half away) could also do a test of 
 Ember's left eye to see if cancer is involved. I don't know what that 
 information would get us, however.
 
 Does anyone have experience with eye cancer or lung cancer in cats? I've been 
 reading about Agaricus blazeii thanks to KG BarnCats, and I'm hoping that 
 might slow the progress of whatever it is we're dealing with. I'm going to 
 post to the feline cancer list on Yahoo!, but I'm wondering what people here 
 might think.
 
 Thanks,
 
 Lance
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-31 Thread Lance
Hi El,

Thanks so much for your input. I really need to read up on lymphoma. I know 
that it happens not infrequently in FeLV+ cats. I will see if there's another 
way to get a biopsy. To get something from the mass in her lungs, they would 
have to open Ember up, and I'm very concerned about the ramifications that 
could have on her health and comfort. The mass is in a hard-to-reach place, and 
a straight FNA doesn't appear to be possible with it. 

My vet is going to talk to a holistic vet regarding Agaricus blazei. I'd just 
like to make sure we're all on the same page. I suspect it will be okay, as 
Ember is already on Transfer Factor and a DMG/Lysine supplement that's a 
treat.

Glad to hear that Mattie has done so well. Best wishes for you both.

Lance

On Mar 31, 2013, at 7:20 PM, designercats cats designerc...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Hi Lance
 Ember may have lymphoma.  Several of the FeLV+ cats I've had stay extremely 
 healthy for about 4 1/2 - 5 years and then develop lymphoma. I've had one 
 with cns lymphoma, another with mediastinal lymphoma, and now also Mattie.  
 Her tumours couldn't be removed but went away with iv chemo within the first 
 month. One of them took up most of her bladder so it was inoperable.
 To determine what it is, and if you choose to treat it, you need biopsies 
 taken at a good radiologist. They can be done using ultrasound and fna.  
 Mattie has done extremely well on chemo and went into remission after a 
 month. Only one week did she have a bit low wbc but that went up. I have her 
 on a supplement called Onco Support by Rx Vitamins and now the Agaricus 
 blazei. 
 Hope this helps,
 El
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-03 Thread Lance
Thanks for relating your experience, Sally. That link might come in handy, too. 
I wish we had more to go on than anecdotes, though. It seems like there haven't 
been that many studies done to confirm what treatments work best. I'm 
considering:

ImmunoRegulin
Virbagen Omega
LTCI
Neupogen

I don't know if I can afford Neupogen, and when I talked to my vet about it, 
she seemed uncertain. It has a reputation for causing bone pain, and if I can 
help it, I don't want to give Ember something that makes her miserable. 

Virbagen Omega is expensive, but I know (roughly) how much it costs, and it's 
worth it to me if it can help Ember. There seems to have been some success in 
its use. Unfortunately, it still doesn't seem to be available here, and 
shipping is a good chunk of its cost.

LTCI and ImmunoRegulin seem affordable and potentially useful. When I was last 
looking into these options, there wasn't much evidence to support LTCI's 
benefits. It seems to have become more accepted over the last few years, but 
I'm still feeling cautious about it.

I'll do a more thorough scan of the list's archives soon, and I'm going to call 
a few vets tomorrow. 

Lance

On Mar 3, 2013, at 12:25 AM, Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lance,
  
 Two of my cats got this. Junior went from being anemic to borderline low and 
 his fevers which had been as high as 106.5 went away. Now As I am reading 
 more I wish I had kept him on it.  Tiny wasa asymptomatic but he was 
 positive. He actually passed 4 mos after testing positive. The felv probably 
 played a part. He most likely threw a clot  I was with him and was too 
 sudden. There was no emergency vet visit. The worst part was he died on 
 Chstmas day. I miss them all.I ordered the IR from Revival Pet supply. I 
 ordered mine direct does not require a presciption. 
 http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.html It was more if my vet 
 ordered it. I took the vial in to the vet's office and a tech  gave him the 
 injection IV.
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-03 Thread KG BarnCats
consider adding Agaricus blazeii for white cell stimulation, obtaining from
atlasworldusa.com .  It worked great for my felv- boy when he was going
thru chemo for multi site lymphoma, the vets were astonished how great his
bloodwork was. Normally the white count would drop dramatically but his
stayed normal.  I get the human capsules then mix it in the wet food.  He
is super fussy but ate it without problem.  It is not very expensive, about
$1 a day.

the agaricus blazeii is a standard support recommended by Dr Alice Villa
Lobos, one of the top feline cancer speciaiists in the US.  Google immuno
nutrition villa lobos to find out more.

another thing to consider is transfer factor, more expensive but it is the
stuff in mother's milk that stimulates, trains and regulates the immune
system.  It works for any mammal.  There are several versions, the more
expensive one with tri-factor is supposed to tune up the immune system over
400 per cent.  I used to use it but had to give up due to the cost.  Can be
bought on Amazon.

good luck
KG



On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 Thanks for relating your experience, Sally. That link might come in handy,
 too. I wish we had more to go on than anecdotes, though. It seems like
 there haven't been that many studies done to confirm what treatments work
 best. I'm considering:

 ImmunoRegulin
 Virbagen Omega
 LTCI
 Neupogen

 I don't know if I can afford Neupogen, and when I talked to my vet about
 it, she seemed uncertain. It has a reputation for causing bone pain, and if
 I can help it, I don't want to give Ember something that makes her
 miserable.

 Virbagen Omega is expensive, but I know (roughly) how much it costs, and
 it's worth it to me if it can help Ember. There seems to have been some
 success in its use. Unfortunately, it still doesn't seem to be available
 here, and shipping is a good chunk of its cost.

 LTCI and ImmunoRegulin seem affordable and potentially useful. When I was
 last looking into these options, there wasn't much evidence to support
 LTCI's benefits. It seems to have become more accepted over the last few
 years, but I'm still feeling cautious about it.

 I'll do a more thorough scan of the list's archives soon, and I'm going to
 call a few vets tomorrow.

 Lance

 On Mar 3, 2013, at 12:25 AM, Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lance,

 Two of my cats got this. Junior went from being anemic to borderline low
 and his fevers which had been as high as 106.5 went away. Now As I am
 reading more I wish I had kept him on it.  Tiny wasa asymptomatic but he
 was positive. He actually passed 4 mos after testing positive. The felv
 probably played a part. He most likely threw a clot  I was with him and was
 too sudden. There was no emergency vet visit. The worst part was he died on
 Chstmas day. I miss them all.I ordered the IR from Revival Pet supply. I
 ordered mine direct does not require a presciption.
 http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.html It was more if my
 vet ordered it. I took the vial in to the vet's office and a tech  gave him
 the injection IV.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-03 Thread designercats cats
Thank you for this timely info! One of my FeLV+ cats, Mattie was diagnosed with 
high grade lymphoma on Dec. 22nd. I've had her for 5 years now and she's done 
well. Her only symptoms were those of a bladder infection.  Her bloodwork was 
great.  She's been undergoing chemo since Dec. 27th and this last week, her 
lymphocyte count was a bit too low.After 4 weeks, she went into complete 
remission, and is doing well other than the slightly low wbc.  She weighs 13 
lbs, eats well, etc.. I'm also giving her onco support by rx vitamins, but no 
transfer factor. I was looking for something specifically to raise the wbc. 
I'll order this tomorrow and hopefully will get it quickly. How much did you 
give you cat undergoing chemo?Thank you so much again!El
 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:13:36 -0500
From: kgbarnc...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

consider adding Agaricus blazeii for white cell stimulation, obtaining from 
atlasworldusa.com .  It worked great for my felv- boy when he was going thru 
chemo for multi site lymphoma, the vets were astonished how great his bloodwork 
was. Normally the white count would drop dramatically but his stayed normal.  I 
get the human capsules then mix it in the wet food.  He is super fussy but ate 
it without problem.  It is not very expensive, about $1 a day.  


the agaricus blazeii is a standard support recommended by Dr Alice Villa Lobos, 
one of the top feline cancer speciaiists in the US.  Google immuno nutrition 
villa lobos to find out more.

another thing to consider is transfer factor, more expensive but it is the 
stuff in mother's milk that stimulates, trains and regulates the immune system. 
 It works for any mammal.  There are several versions, the more expensive one 
with tri-factor is supposed to tune up the immune system over 400 per cent.  I 
used to use it but had to give up due to the cost.  Can be bought on Amazon.


good luck
KG



On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

Thanks for relating your experience, Sally. That link might come in handy, too. 
I wish we had more to go on than anecdotes, though. It seems like there haven't 
been that many studies done to confirm what treatments work best. I'm 
considering:


ImmunoRegulinVirbagen OmegaLTCINeupogen
I don't know if I can afford Neupogen, and when I talked to my vet about it, 
she seemed uncertain. It has a reputation for causing bone pain, and if I can 
help it, I don't want to give Ember something that makes her miserable. 

Virbagen Omega is expensive, but I know (roughly) how much it costs, and it's 
worth it to me if it can help Ember. There seems to have been some success in 
its use. Unfortunately, it still doesn't seem to be available here, and 
shipping is a good chunk of its cost.

LTCI and ImmunoRegulin seem affordable and potentially useful. When I was last 
looking into these options, there wasn't much evidence to support LTCI's 
benefits. It seems to have become more accepted over the last few years, but 
I'm still feeling cautious about it.

I'll do a more thorough scan of the list's archives soon, and I'm going to call 
a few vets tomorrow. 
Lance

On Mar 3, 2013, at 12:25 AM, Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote:
Lance, 
Two of my cats got this. Junior went from being anemic to borderline low and 
his fevers which had been as high as 106.5 went away. Now As I am reading more 
I wish I had kept him on it.  Tiny wasa asymptomatic but he was positive. He 
actually passed 4 mos after testing positive. The felv probably played a part. 
He most likely threw a clot  I was with him and was too sudden. There was no 
emergency vet visit. The worst part was he died on Chstmas day. I miss them 
all.I ordered the IR from Revival Pet supply. I ordered mine direct does not 
require a presciption. 


http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.html It was more if my vet 
ordered it. I took the vial in to the vet's office and a tech  gave him the 
injection IV.

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-03 Thread KG BarnCats
I gave 1/2 agaricus blazeii human capsule twice a day, so he got 600
mg/day.  recommended on the pet bottle was 45 mg/lb so my dose was a little
more than that.  Danny went into remission in month and is still cancer
free 6 years later.  :)

KG



On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:25 PM, designercats cats
designerc...@hotmail.comwrote:

 Thank you for this timely info! One of my FeLV+ cats, Mattie was diagnosed
 with high grade lymphoma on Dec. 22nd. I've had her for 5 years now and
 she's done well. Her only symptoms were those of a bladder infection.  Her
 bloodwork was great.  She's been undergoing chemo since Dec. 27th and this
 last week, her lymphocyte count was a bit too low.After 4 weeks, she went
 into complete remission, and is doing well other than the slightly low wbc.
  She weighs 13 lbs, eats well, etc.. I'm also giving her onco support by rx
 vitamins, but no transfer factor. I was looking for something specifically
 to raise the wbc. I'll order this tomorrow and hopefully will get
 it quickly. How much did you give you cat undergoing chemo?
 Thank you so much again!
 El

 --
 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:13:36 -0500
 From: kgbarnc...@gmail.com

 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

 consider adding Agaricus blazeii for white cell stimulation, obtaining
 from atlasworldusa.com .  It worked great for my felv- boy when he was
 going thru chemo for multi site lymphoma, the vets were astonished how
 great his bloodwork was. Normally the white count would drop dramatically
 but his stayed normal.  I get the human capsules then mix it in the wet
 food.  He is super fussy but ate it without problem.  It is not very
 expensive, about $1 a day.

 the agaricus blazeii is a standard support recommended by Dr Alice Villa
 Lobos, one of the top feline cancer speciaiists in the US.  Google immuno
 nutrition villa lobos to find out more.

 another thing to consider is transfer factor, more expensive but it is the
 stuff in mother's milk that stimulates, trains and regulates the immune
 system.  It works for any mammal.  There are several versions, the more
 expensive one with tri-factor is supposed to tune up the immune system over
 400 per cent.  I used to use it but had to give up due to the cost.  Can be
 bought on Amazon.

 good luck
 KG



 On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 Thanks for relating your experience, Sally. That link might come in handy,
 too. I wish we had more to go on than anecdotes, though. It seems like
 there haven't been that many studies done to confirm what treatments work
 best. I'm considering:

 ImmunoRegulin
 Virbagen Omega
 LTCI
 Neupogen

 I don't know if I can afford Neupogen, and when I talked to my vet about
 it, she seemed uncertain. It has a reputation for causing bone pain, and if
 I can help it, I don't want to give Ember something that makes her
 miserable.

 Virbagen Omega is expensive, but I know (roughly) how much it costs, and
 it's worth it to me if it can help Ember. There seems to have been some
 success in its use. Unfortunately, it still doesn't seem to be available
 here, and shipping is a good chunk of its cost.

 LTCI and ImmunoRegulin seem affordable and potentially useful. When I was
 last looking into these options, there wasn't much evidence to support
 LTCI's benefits. It seems to have become more accepted over the last few
 years, but I'm still feeling cautious about it.

 I'll do a more thorough scan of the list's archives soon, and I'm going to
 call a few vets tomorrow.

 Lance

 On Mar 3, 2013, at 12:25 AM, Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote:

 Lance,

 Two of my cats got this. Junior went from being anemic to borderline low
 and his fevers which had been as high as 106.5 went away. Now As I am
 reading more I wish I had kept him on it.  Tiny wasa asymptomatic but he
 was positive. He actually passed 4 mos after testing positive. The felv
 probably played a part. He most likely threw a clot  I was with him and was
 too sudden. There was no emergency vet visit. The worst part was he died on
 Chstmas day. I miss them all.I ordered the IR from Revival Pet supply. I
 ordered mine direct does not require a presciption.
 http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.html It was more if my
 vet ordered it. I took the vial in to the vet's office and a tech  gave him
 the injection IV.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-03 Thread Maryam Ulomi
Do you give this to FeLv cats who are cancer symptoms or can it be given to any 
FeLV cats? 

Sent from my iPad

On Mar 3, 2013, at 21:50, KG BarnCats kgbarnc...@gmail.com wrote:

 I gave 1/2 agaricus blazeii human capsule twice a day, so he got 600 mg/day.  
 recommended on the pet bottle was 45 mg/lb so my dose was a little more than 
 that.  Danny went into remission in month and is still cancer free 6 years 
 later.  :)
 
 KG
 
 
 
 On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:25 PM, designercats cats designerc...@hotmail.com 
 wrote:
 Thank you for this timely info! One of my FeLV+ cats, Mattie was diagnosed 
 with high grade lymphoma on Dec. 22nd. I've had her for 5 years now and 
 she's done well. Her only symptoms were those of a bladder infection.  Her 
 bloodwork was great.  She's been undergoing chemo since Dec. 27th and this 
 last week, her lymphocyte count was a bit too low.After 4 weeks, she went 
 into complete remission, and is doing well other than the slightly low wbc.  
 She weighs 13 lbs, eats well, etc.. I'm also giving her onco support by rx 
 vitamins, but no transfer factor. I was looking for something specifically 
 to raise the wbc. I'll order this tomorrow and hopefully will get it 
 quickly. How much did you give you cat undergoing chemo?
 Thank you so much again!
 El
  
 Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:13:36 -0500
 From: kgbarnc...@gmail.com
 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc
 
 consider adding Agaricus blazeii for white cell stimulation, obtaining from 
 atlasworldusa.com .  It worked great for my felv- boy when he was going thru 
 chemo for multi site lymphoma, the vets were astonished how great his 
 bloodwork was. Normally the white count would drop dramatically but his 
 stayed normal.  I get the human capsules then mix it in the wet food.  He is 
 super fussy but ate it without problem.  It is not very expensive, about $1 
 a day.  
 
 the agaricus blazeii is a standard support recommended by Dr Alice Villa 
 Lobos, one of the top feline cancer speciaiists in the US.  Google immuno 
 nutrition villa lobos to find out more.
 
 another thing to consider is transfer factor, more expensive but it is the 
 stuff in mother's milk that stimulates, trains and regulates the immune 
 system.  It works for any mammal.  There are several versions, the more 
 expensive one with tri-factor is supposed to tune up the immune system over 
 400 per cent.  I used to use it but had to give up due to the cost.  Can be 
 bought on Amazon.
 
 good luck
 KG
 
 
 
 On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 Thanks for relating your experience, Sally. That link might come in handy, 
 too. I wish we had more to go on than anecdotes, though. It seems like there 
 haven't been that many studies done to confirm what treatments work best. 
 I'm considering:
 
 ImmunoRegulin
 Virbagen Omega
 LTCI
 Neupogen
 
 I don't know if I can afford Neupogen, and when I talked to my vet about it, 
 she seemed uncertain. It has a reputation for causing bone pain, and if I 
 can help it, I don't want to give Ember something that makes her miserable. 
 
 Virbagen Omega is expensive, but I know (roughly) how much it costs, and 
 it's worth it to me if it can help Ember. There seems to have been some 
 success in its use. Unfortunately, it still doesn't seem to be available 
 here, and shipping is a good chunk of its cost.
 
 LTCI and ImmunoRegulin seem affordable and potentially useful. When I was 
 last looking into these options, there wasn't much evidence to support 
 LTCI's benefits. It seems to have become more accepted over the last few 
 years, but I'm still feeling cautious about it.
 
 I'll do a more thorough scan of the list's archives soon, and I'm going to 
 call a few vets tomorrow. 
 
 Lance
 
 On Mar 3, 2013, at 12:25 AM, Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Lance,
  
 Two of my cats got this. Junior went from being anemic to borderline low and 
 his fevers which had been as high as 106.5 went away. Now As I am reading 
 more I wish I had kept him on it.  Tiny wasa asymptomatic but he was 
 positive. He actually passed 4 mos after testing positive. The felv probably 
 played a part. He most likely threw a clot  I was with him and was too 
 sudden. There was no emergency vet visit. The worst part was he died on 
 Chstmas day. I miss them all.I ordered the IR from Revival Pet supply. I 
 ordered mine direct does not require a presciption. 
 http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.html It was more if my vet 
 ordered it. I took the vial in to the vet's office and a tech  gave him the 
 injection IV.
  
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-03 Thread designercats cats
That's great news about Danny! I hope he continues to do well.  It gives me 
hope. Thanks! El Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:50:18 -0500
From: kgbarnc...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

I gave 1/2 agaricus blazeii human capsule twice a day, so he got 600 mg/day.  
recommended on the pet bottle was 45 mg/lb so my dose was a little more than 
that.  Danny went into remission in month and is still cancer free 6 years 
later.  :)


KG



On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 9:25 PM, designercats cats designerc...@hotmail.com 
wrote:




Thank you for this timely info! One of my FeLV+ cats, Mattie was diagnosed with 
high grade lymphoma on Dec. 22nd. I've had her for 5 years now and she's done 
well. Her only symptoms were those of a bladder infection.  Her bloodwork was 
great.  She's been undergoing chemo since Dec. 27th and this last week, her 
lymphocyte count was a bit too low.After 4 weeks, she went into complete 
remission, and is doing well other than the slightly low wbc.  She weighs 13 
lbs, eats well, etc.. I'm also giving her onco support by rx vitamins, but no 
transfer factor. I was looking for something specifically to raise the wbc. 
I'll order this tomorrow and hopefully will get it quickly. How much did you 
give you cat undergoing chemo?

Thank you so much again!
El
 
Date: Sun, 3 Mar 2013 21:13:36 -0500
From: kgbarnc...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

consider adding Agaricus blazeii for white cell stimulation, obtaining from 
atlasworldusa.com .  It worked great for my felv- boy when he was going thru 
chemo for multi site lymphoma, the vets were astonished how great his bloodwork 
was. Normally the white count would drop dramatically but his stayed normal.  I 
get the human capsules then mix it in the wet food.  He is super fussy but ate 
it without problem.  It is not very expensive, about $1 a day.  



the agaricus blazeii is a standard support recommended by Dr Alice Villa Lobos, 
one of the top feline cancer speciaiists in the US.  Google immuno nutrition 
villa lobos to find out more.

another thing to consider is transfer factor, more expensive but it is the 
stuff in mother's milk that stimulates, trains and regulates the immune system. 
 It works for any mammal.  There are several versions, the more expensive one 
with tri-factor is supposed to tune up the immune system over 400 per cent.  I 
used to use it but had to give up due to the cost.  Can be bought on Amazon.



good luck
KG



On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:


Thanks for relating your experience, Sally. That link might come in handy, too. 
I wish we had more to go on than anecdotes, though. It seems like there haven't 
been that many studies done to confirm what treatments work best. I'm 
considering:



ImmunoRegulinVirbagen OmegaLTCINeupogen
I don't know if I can afford Neupogen, and when I talked to my vet about it, 
she seemed uncertain. It has a reputation for causing bone pain, and if I can 
help it, I don't want to give Ember something that makes her miserable. 


Virbagen Omega is expensive, but I know (roughly) how much it costs, and it's 
worth it to me if it can help Ember. There seems to have been some success in 
its use. Unfortunately, it still doesn't seem to be available here, and 
shipping is a good chunk of its cost.


LTCI and ImmunoRegulin seem affordable and potentially useful. When I was last 
looking into these options, there wasn't much evidence to support LTCI's 
benefits. It seems to have become more accepted over the last few years, but 
I'm still feeling cautious about it.


I'll do a more thorough scan of the list's archives soon, and I'm going to call 
a few vets tomorrow. 
Lance

On Mar 3, 2013, at 12:25 AM, Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote:
Lance, 
Two of my cats got this. Junior went from being anemic to borderline low and 
his fevers which had been as high as 106.5 went away. Now As I am reading more 
I wish I had kept him on it.  Tiny wasa asymptomatic but he was positive. He 
actually passed 4 mos after testing positive. The felv probably played a part. 
He most likely threw a clot  I was with him and was too sudden. There was no 
emergency vet visit. The worst part was he died on Chstmas day. I miss them 
all.I ordered the IR from Revival Pet supply. I ordered mine direct does not 
require a presciption. 



http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.html It was more if my vet 
ordered it. I took the vial in to the vet's office and a tech  gave him the 
injection IV.


 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-03 Thread Lance
Thanks for the info, KG. Agaricus blazeii looks very interesting. I might call 
the homeopathic vet we use to get her recommendation for using it. 

Ember has been given Transfer Factor on and off since she tested positive, and 
her most recent time on it has been for about two years now. It might be part 
of the reason that she's done so well. 

Best regards,

Lance

On Mar 3, 2013, at 8:13 PM, KG BarnCats kgbarnc...@gmail.com wrote:

 consider adding Agaricus blazeii for white cell stimulation, obtaining from 
 atlasworldusa.com .  It worked great for my felv- boy when he was going thru 
 chemo for multi site lymphoma, the vets were astonished how great his 
 bloodwork was. Normally the white count would drop dramatically but his 
 stayed normal.  I get the human capsules then mix it in the wet food.  He is 
 super fussy but ate it without problem.  It is not very expensive, about $1 a 
 day.  
 
 the agaricus blazeii is a standard support recommended by Dr Alice Villa 
 Lobos, one of the top feline cancer speciaiists in the US.  Google immuno 
 nutrition villa lobos to find out more.
 
 another thing to consider is transfer factor, more expensive but it is the 
 stuff in mother's milk that stimulates, trains and regulates the immune 
 system.  It works for any mammal.  There are several versions, the more 
 expensive one with tri-factor is supposed to tune up the immune system over 
 400 per cent.  I used to use it but had to give up due to the cost.  Can be 
 bought on Amazon.
 
 good luck
 KG
 
 
 
 On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:30 AM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 Thanks for relating your experience, Sally. That link might come in handy, 
 too. I wish we had more to go on than anecdotes, though. It seems like there 
 haven't been that many studies done to confirm what treatments work best. I'm 
 considering:
 
 ImmunoRegulin
 Virbagen Omega
 LTCI
 Neupogen
 
 I don't know if I can afford Neupogen, and when I talked to my vet about it, 
 she seemed uncertain. It has a reputation for causing bone pain, and if I can 
 help it, I don't want to give Ember something that makes her miserable. 
 
 Virbagen Omega is expensive, but I know (roughly) how much it costs, and it's 
 worth it to me if it can help Ember. There seems to have been some success in 
 its use. Unfortunately, it still doesn't seem to be available here, and 
 shipping is a good chunk of its cost.
 
 LTCI and ImmunoRegulin seem affordable and potentially useful. When I was 
 last looking into these options, there wasn't much evidence to support LTCI's 
 benefits. It seems to have become more accepted over the last few years, but 
 I'm still feeling cautious about it.
 
 I'll do a more thorough scan of the list's archives soon, and I'm going to 
 call a few vets tomorrow. 
 
 Lance
 
 On Mar 3, 2013, at 12:25 AM, Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Lance,
  
 Two of my cats got this. Junior went from being anemic to borderline low and 
 his fevers which had been as high as 106.5 went away. Now As I am reading 
 more I wish I had kept him on it.  Tiny wasa asymptomatic but he was 
 positive. He actually passed 4 mos after testing positive. The felv probably 
 played a part. He most likely threw a clot  I was with him and was too 
 sudden. There was no emergency vet visit. The worst part was he died on 
 Chstmas day. I miss them all.I ordered the IR from Revival Pet supply. I 
 ordered mine direct does not require a presciption. 
 http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.html It was more if my vet 
 ordered it. I took the vial in to the vet's office and a tech  gave him the 
 injection IV.
  
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-02 Thread Lance
Hi Sally,

Thank you for thinking of Ember and I. I'm so sorry to read that all your FeLV+ 
cats have gone. I remind myself that the time I've had with Ember has been 
wonderful, and that she may have more time. I want to have hope, but I'm 
feeling really down right now. I appreciate your prayers. Take care.

Lance

On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:52 AM, Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote:

 
 Hi Lance,
  
  I have thought of you recently. I remember you kindness when I was dealing 
 with this awful disease. All infected cats are at the Rainbow's Bridge. I 
 will keep Ember in my prayers.
  
 Sally
 On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 A few of you may remember me from years ago. My Ember tested positive for 
 FeLV almost exactly seven years ago, in 2006. She was four years old then. 
 There have been a few minor illnesses since that wouldn't have been unusual 
 for a non-FeLV cat, but she's otherwise been very healthy.
 
 Ember's white blood cell count has been persistently low. Other than when 
 she's had a few colds (when it shot up to around 7 to 7.5), it's been around 
 3.75 to 4.15. She went to the vet two days ago for a regular checkup, and her 
 count is only a bit over 3. Ember's vet prescribed Clavamox, I assume, as a 
 prophylactic against infection.
 
 Needless to say, this is scary news. Ember is almost 11, and we're probably 
 heading toward a time when any cat's immune system would cease to be as 
 efficient as it once was. For a FeLV+ cat, that's obviously dangerous. I'm 
 wondering if anyone has had recent experience with any treatments that help 
 stimulate white blood cell production. Please let me know what you think.
 
 Best wishes to all of you and your cats,
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-02 Thread Christiane Biagi
Lance-when my Tucson had real low wbc a number of years ago, my vet gave her
a series of immune-regulin injections.  Whether it was that or something
else, the wbc went back up in a few weeks.  

 

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Lance
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:14 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

 

Hi Sally,

 

Thank you for thinking of Ember and I. I'm so sorry to read that all your
FeLV+ cats have gone. I remind myself that the time I've had with Ember has
been wonderful, and that she may have more time. I want to have hope, but
I'm feeling really down right now. I appreciate your prayers. Take care.

 

Lance

 

On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:52 AM, Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote:






Hi Lance,

 

 I have thought of you recently. I remember you kindness when I was dealing
with this awful disease. All infected cats are at the Rainbow's Bridge. I
will keep Ember in my prayers.

 

Sally

On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

Hi everyone,

A few of you may remember me from years ago. My Ember tested positive for
FeLV almost exactly seven years ago, in 2006. She was four years old then.
There have been a few minor illnesses since that wouldn't have been unusual
for a non-FeLV cat, but she's otherwise been very healthy.

Ember's white blood cell count has been persistently low. Other than when
she's had a few colds (when it shot up to around 7 to 7.5), it's been around
3.75 to 4.15. She went to the vet two days ago for a regular checkup, and
her count is only a bit over 3. Ember's vet prescribed Clavamox, I assume,
as a prophylactic against infection.

Needless to say, this is scary news. Ember is almost 11, and we're probably
heading toward a time when any cat's immune system would cease to be as
efficient as it once was. For a FeLV+ cat, that's obviously dangerous. I'm
wondering if anyone has had recent experience with any treatments that help
stimulate white blood cell production. Please let me know what you think.

Best wishes to all of you and your cats,

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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-02 Thread Lance
Thanks for the information, Christiane. I'm glad that Tuscon was helped by 
ImmunoRegulin. I remembered this morning that about five years ago, I got into 
contact with a vet who had a lot of success using it with cats. Don't remember 
much more than that, but I think my vet might have talked to them. Virbagen 
Omega is another option I'm considering. I don't see many recent posts about it 
on the list. It's expensive, but it has a fairly good reputation.

Ember goes back to the vet in two weeks, so I'll probably make some treatment 
choices based on what her cbc looks like then. For now, I have her on Transfer 
Factor, low-dose interferon alpha, and those Vetriscience lysine/DMG treats. 
This has been  her regimen for the last year or so.

Lance


On Mar 2, 2013, at 10:08 AM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote:

 Lance—when my Tucson had real low wbc a number of years ago, my vet gave her 
 a series of immune-regulin injections.  Whether it was that or something 
 else, the wbc went back up in a few weeks. 
  
 From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lance
 Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2013 10:14 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc
  
 Hi Sally,
  
 Thank you for thinking of Ember and I. I'm so sorry to read that all your 
 FeLV+ cats have gone. I remind myself that the time I've had with Ember has 
 been wonderful, and that she may have more time. I want to have hope, but I'm 
 feeling really down right now. I appreciate your prayers. Take care.
  
 Lance
  
 On Mar 2, 2013, at 12:52 AM, Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
 
 Hi Lance,
  
  I have thought of you recently. I remember you kindness when I was dealing 
 with this awful disease. All infected cats are at the Rainbow's Bridge. I 
 will keep Ember in my prayers.
  
 Sally
 On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 A few of you may remember me from years ago. My Ember tested positive for 
 FeLV almost exactly seven years ago, in 2006. She was four years old then. 
 There have been a few minor illnesses since that wouldn't have been unusual 
 for a non-FeLV cat, but she's otherwise been very healthy.
 
 Ember's white blood cell count has been persistently low. Other than when 
 she's had a few colds (when it shot up to around 7 to 7.5), it's been around 
 3.75 to 4.15. She went to the vet two days ago for a regular checkup, and her 
 count is only a bit over 3. Ember's vet prescribed Clavamox, I assume, as a 
 prophylactic against infection.
 
 Needless to say, this is scary news. Ember is almost 11, and we're probably 
 heading toward a time when any cat's immune system would cease to be as 
 efficient as it once was. For a FeLV+ cat, that's obviously dangerous. I'm 
 wondering if anyone has had recent experience with any treatments that help 
 stimulate white blood cell production. Please let me know what you think.
 
 Best wishes to all of you and your cats,
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-02 Thread Sally Davis
That being said I have 7 cats that were all exposed that are still with me.
And one that passed lat summer unrelated to FeLV she was 10.

 A long time ago before we knew much about Felv I had a can named Black
Jack. He lived to be 11. He was always somewhat sickly. In the end he had a
wound infection that would not heal. My dad took him to the vet which would
be his last visit. I cherish all the time I had with him The vet said it
was Felv. He had been treated with antibiotcs several tmes. He was so very
special.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-02 Thread dlgegg
Had you euthanized him when you first found out, he and you would hve missed 
all that love and happy memories

 Sally Davis putty...@gmail.com wrote: 
 That being said I have 7 cats that were all exposed that are still with me.
 And one that passed lat summer unrelated to FeLV she was 10.
 
  A long time ago before we knew much about Felv I had a can named Black
 Jack. He lived to be 11. He was always somewhat sickly. In the end he had a
 wound infection that would not heal. My dad took him to the vet which would
 be his last visit. I cherish all the time I had with him The vet said it
 was Felv. He had been treated with antibiotcs several tmes. He was so very
 special.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-02 Thread Lorrie
Hi Lance
How fortunate you are that Ember has lived so long with FelV.
You must be taking excellent care of her.  Most of my FelV cats
have died at less than a year old, but two of them are now five
years old. Most of my FelV cats died of anemia with low red blood
counts not low white count.

Lorrie


On 03-01, Lance wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 A few of you may remember me from years ago. My Ember tested positive for
 FeLV almost exactly seven years ago, in 2006. She was four years old then.
 There have been a few minor illnesses since that wouldn't have been
 unusual for a non-FeLV cat, but she's otherwise been very healthy.
 
 Ember's white blood cell count has been persistently low. Other than when
 she's had a few colds (when it shot up to around 7 to 7.5), it's been
 around 3.75 to 4.15. She went to the vet two days ago for a regular
 checkup, and her count is only a bit over 3. Ember's vet prescribed
 Clavamox, I assume, as a prophylactic against infection.
 
 Needless to say, this is scary news. Ember is almost 11, and we're
 probably heading toward a time when any cat's immune system would cease to
 be as efficient as it once was. For a FeLV+ cat, that's obviously
 dangerous. I'm wondering if anyone has had recent experience with any
 treatments that help stimulate white blood cell production. Please let me
 know what you think.
 
 Best wishes to all of you and your cats,
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-02 Thread Lance
Hi Lorrie,

I'm very grateful for the time I've had with Ember. Given the initial 
information I found, I expected her to be gone within months of the positive 
test. There have been a few minor illnesses that have concerned me, but they 
have passed. I'm hopeful that Ember's very low wbc will bounce back up to her 
(low) normal, but I'm going to discuss treatment options with her vet on Monday.

I've read that anemia is not unheard of with FeLV+ cats, and I'm sorry to hear 
that the ones you lost were affected that way. I hope the five-year-olds have 
many happy years ahead with you. 

Lance

On Mar 2, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

 Hi Lance
 How fortunate you are that Ember has lived so long with FelV.
 You must be taking excellent care of her.  Most of my FelV cats
 have died at less than a year old, but two of them are now five
 years old. Most of my FelV cats died of anemia with low red blood
 counts not low white count.
 
 Lorrie
 
 
 On 03-01, Lance wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 A few of you may remember me from years ago. My Ember tested positive for
 FeLV almost exactly seven years ago, in 2006. She was four years old then.
 There have been a few minor illnesses since that wouldn't have been
 unusual for a non-FeLV cat, but she's otherwise been very healthy.
 
 Ember's white blood cell count has been persistently low. Other than when
 she's had a few colds (when it shot up to around 7 to 7.5), it's been
 around 3.75 to 4.15. She went to the vet two days ago for a regular
 checkup, and her count is only a bit over 3. Ember's vet prescribed
 Clavamox, I assume, as a prophylactic against infection.
 
 Needless to say, this is scary news. Ember is almost 11, and we're
 probably heading toward a time when any cat's immune system would cease to
 be as efficient as it once was. For a FeLV+ cat, that's obviously
 dangerous. I'm wondering if anyone has had recent experience with any
 treatments that help stimulate white blood cell production. Please let me
 know what you think.
 
 Best wishes to all of you and your cats,
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-02 Thread Sally Davis
Lance,

Two of my cats got this. Junior went from being anemic to borderline low
and his fevers which had been as high as 106.5 went away. Now As I am
reading more I wish I had kept him on it.  Tiny wasa asymptomatic but he
was positive. He actually passed 4 mos after testing positive. The felv
probably played a part. He most likely threw a clot  I was with him and was
too sudden. There was no emergency vet visit. The worst part was he died on
Chstmas day. I miss them all.I ordered the IR from Revival Pet supply. I
ordered mine direct does not require a presciption.
http://www.revivalanimal.com/ImmunoRegulin-EqStim.html It was more if my
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Re: [Felvtalk] Ember - low wbc

2013-03-01 Thread Sally Davis
Hi Lance,

 I have thought of you recently. I remember you kindness when I was dealing
with this awful disease. All infected cats are at the Rainbow's Bridge. I
will keep Ember in my prayers.

Sally
On Fri, Mar 1, 2013 at 10:08 PM, Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 A few of you may remember me from years ago. My Ember tested positive for
 FeLV almost exactly seven years ago, in 2006. She was four years old then.
 There have been a few minor illnesses since that wouldn't have been unusual
 for a non-FeLV cat, but she's otherwise been very healthy.

 Ember's white blood cell count has been persistently low. Other than when
 she's had a few colds (when it shot up to around 7 to 7.5), it's been
 around 3.75 to 4.15. She went to the vet two days ago for a regular
 checkup, and her count is only a bit over 3. Ember's vet prescribed
 Clavamox, I assume, as a prophylactic against infection.

 Needless to say, this is scary news. Ember is almost 11, and we're
 probably heading toward a time when any cat's immune system would cease to
 be as efficient as it once was. For a FeLV+ cat, that's obviously
 dangerous. I'm wondering if anyone has had recent experience with any
 treatments that help stimulate white blood cell production. Please let me
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