Re: [Felvtalk] FIP/RAW DIET

2012-02-22 Thread dot winkler
Hi, Can you explain what the raw diet is? Is it your own concoction of food?  
I feed my FELV the Science Diet dry food.  She seems to be doing very well on 
it.  I also supplement with one pouch of Whiskas Gravy Sensations.  I have 
heard of the Lysine.  Where do I get it for the cats and the name?  Thanks.  
Dotty - Freehold.


 From: Tracey Shrout dtshr...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2012 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP
 

Vicky,

I can't tell you much about the FIP, but as for the FELV, I can tell you the 
most important thing you can do for them is give them a good 
species-appropriate diet. I recommend a homemade or commercial raw diet. My 
felv+ (Abbey) has been on it for over 3 years and is doing remarkably well. She 
was dying when I got her as a stray. All her symptoms practically disappeared 
when I started feeding her the raw diet -- it was nothing short of amazing.  I 
also supplement her diet with 250mg of l-lysine in her food daily, and I also 
give her 1/2 capsule of Transfer Factor tri-factor Plus everyday. I may be just 
one of the lucky ones, but I doubt it. I tribute her good health to her 
diet. This diet will keep their immune system functioning at its fullest. Feed 
it to all your cats. See catinfo.org and catnutrition.org. Low stress is also 
key to good health. 
 
As for the vomiting, I would almost guarantee this diet will cure that. 5 or 6 
years of vomiting can wreak havoc on a cats health. You didn't mention what you 
were feeding them. Dry food? That may be the culprit with the vomiting. Could 
be he is allergic to something in the food, or if it contains grains, that 
could be the culprit. Cats cannot digest grains...period. That is why lots 
of cats vomit on a regular basis. Yes, get your negative vaccinated every year 
as long as he doesn't have a reaction to it. I would definitely keep him after 
being re-homed so many times. Just my 2 cents...Good luck with your kitties!
 
Tracey (in Indiana)
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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-22 Thread czadna sacarawicz



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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-22 Thread GRAS
Must be a problem on your end because I am receiving and posting!

 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 22, 2012 4:43 PM
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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-20 Thread jbero tds.net
Dear Vicky,

I haven't been involved in the felvtalk emails for awhile and I really do
not know the history of your cat or why you are considering FIP.

I do know that FIP is often fatal and relatively rapidly so.  If you are
truely dealing with FIP, I have known only one individual who has
successfullly treated the disease.

She used high dose IV Vitamin C.  If you really believe it's FIP you need
to treat aggressively, and now.  There are tests that can be done to
support your suspicions.

FIP is generally believed to be an over active immune response to a
particular mutated virus.  The virus can be tested for, but not the mutated
type.  Additionally, elevated levels of total protein and globulins
can suggest FIP.

If you have other cats in the house and you suspect FIP, separate them.
The virus is intestinal and easily transmitted in multicat homes.  You
never know who will get the mutated type though.

If you're intestered in trying IV vitamin C, you will have to commit to
finding a vet to administer it, be okay with putting in an IV catheter for
three days a week for four weeks, and be able to get a hold of the Vitamin
C.  I know a pharmacy that supplies it.  It costs about ten dollars a vial
and the vial should last you for one week so total about thirty or forty
dollars for the treatment.  The vet bills would be additional.

Things your vet would need to watch for during the infusion are
hypoglycemia (feed the cat during the infusion, it takes about an hour,
maybe two depending on how slowly you want to infuse) and hypocalcemia
(this is really really rare but it is always better to be prepared than
not) - they should have calcium gluconate on hand.  Additionally it helps
to give oral vitamin C after the infusion to avoid withdrawl issues.  I can
give you more specifics if you're interested

Hope this helps.

Jenny

On Sat, Feb 18, 2012 at 5:12 AM, Tracey Shrout dtshr...@gmail.com wrote:

  Vicky,

 I can't tell you much about the FIP, but as for the FELV, I can tell you
 the most important thing you can do for them is give them a good
 species-appropriate diet. I recommend a homemade or commercial raw diet. My
 felv+ (Abbey) has been on it for over 3 years and is doing remarkably well.
 She was dying when I got her as a stray. All her symptoms practically
 disappeared when I started feeding her the raw diet -- it was nothing short
 of amazing.  I also supplement her diet with 250mg of l-lysine in her food
 daily, and I also give her 1/2 capsule of Transfer Factor tri-factor Plus
 everyday. I may be just one of the lucky ones, but I doubt it. I tribute
 her good health to her diet. This diet will keep their immune
 system functioning at its fullest. Feed it to all your cats. See
 catinfo.org and catnutrition.org. Low stress is also key to good health.

 As for the vomiting, I would almost guarantee this diet will cure that. 5
 or 6 years of vomiting can wreak havoc on a cats health. You didn't mention
 what you were feeding them. Dry food? That may be the culprit with the
 vomiting. Could be he is allergic to something in the food, or if it
 contains grains, that could be the culprit. Cats cannot digest
 grains...period. That is why lots of cats vomit on a regular basis. Yes,
 get your negative vaccinated every year as long as he doesn't have a
 reaction to it. I would definitely keep him after being re-homed so many
 times. Just my 2 cents...Good luck with your kitties!

 Tracey (in Indiana)

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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-18 Thread Tracey Shrout

 Vicky,

I can't tell you much about the FIP, but as for the FELV, I can tell you
the most important thing you can do for them is give them a good
species-appropriate diet. I recommend a homemade or commercial raw diet. My
felv+ (Abbey) has been on it for over 3 years and is doing remarkably well.
She was dying when I got her as a stray. All her symptoms practically
disappeared when I started feeding her the raw diet -- it was nothing short
of amazing.  I also supplement her diet with 250mg of l-lysine in her food
daily, and I also give her 1/2 capsule of Transfer Factor tri-factor Plus
everyday. I may be just one of the lucky ones, but I doubt it. I tribute
her good health to her diet. This diet will keep their immune
system functioning at its fullest. Feed it to all your cats. See
catinfo.org and
catnutrition.org. Low stress is also key to good health.

As for the vomiting, I would almost guarantee this diet will cure that. 5
or 6 years of vomiting can wreak havoc on a cats health. You didn't mention
what you were feeding them. Dry food? That may be the culprit with the
vomiting. Could be he is allergic to something in the food, or if it
contains grains, that could be the culprit. Cats cannot digest
grains...period. That is why lots of cats vomit on a regular basis. Yes,
get your negative vaccinated every year as long as he doesn't have a
reaction to it. I would definitely keep him after being re-homed so many
times. Just my 2 cents...Good luck with your kitties!

Tracey (in Indiana)

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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-16 Thread GRAS
Both vaccines, FIV and FIP, will make cats test POSITIVE forever!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

Think u r referring to the fiv vaccine

Christiane Biagi
Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:

Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it. The 
vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for it if 
given the vaccination..

This is too important not to mention

L
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee Evans 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions


  There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona 
 virus.  Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.  FIP 
 is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically 
 predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's 
 definitely not very prevalent.  I have had cats who tested above 400 for 
 corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested 
 very low for corona virus.  He had apparently been exposed to the form that 
 he was predisposed to contract.  He was also a street cat, in poor health in 
 general.  Lee



  From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions



  YES!

  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

  Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?


  On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:
  Hi Everyone

  I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 
 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV 
 positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(

  Details:
  Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. 
 He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the 
 skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round 
 of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't 
 completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just 
 a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.

  Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He 
 currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. 
 This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I 
 don't think it is related.

  Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had 
 him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 
 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year.

  If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:

  Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him 
 up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he 
 is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our 
 vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else 
 be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is 
 noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
  Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't 
 lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.
  Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of 
 thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then 
 neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled 
 with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he 
 must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on 
 the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I 
 being naive here? Should we find him another home?
  Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' 
 lives with a reasonable quality?

  Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message.

  Vicky

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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-16 Thread Marcia Baronda
Hi everyone
Great source of info on FIP is The Orion Society. They have a list, just
like this one that deals with FIP. I had a cat die from it years ago, still
breaks my heart. Horrible disease, but true, hard to read blood tests. I
would highly suggest checking out the list. A great big bunch of
knowledgeable people on there, dedicated to dealing with this disease. It
was my understanding, that the cat has to be exposed over and over again to
a particular coronavirus.

On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 10:40 PM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.netwrote:

 **
 Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against
 it. The vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive
 for it if given the vaccination..

 This is too important not to mention

 L

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

  There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona 
 virus.
 Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.  FIP is
 caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically
 predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's
 definitely not very prevalent.  I have had cats who tested above 400 for
 corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested
 very low for corona virus.  He had apparently been exposed to the form that
 he was predisposed to contract.  He was also a street cat, in poor health
 in general.  Lee

   *From:* GRAS g...@optonline.net
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

   YES!

  *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
 felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Kathryn Hargreaves
 *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

 Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?

  On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:
  Hi Everyone

  I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3
 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV
 positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(

  Details:
  Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at
 all. He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on
 the skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a
 round of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still
 isn't completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours,
 more just a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.

  Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP).
 He currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a
 lot. This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so
 I don't think it is related.

  Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We
 had him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the
 booster 4 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every
 year.

  If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:

  Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him
 up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he
 is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our
 vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something
 else be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is
 noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
  Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine,
 hasn't lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6
 years.
  Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot
 of thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was
 then neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so
 settled with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I
 think he must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would
 groom him on the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has
 immunity. Am I being naive here? Should we find him another home?
  Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys'
 lives with a reasonable quality?

  Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message.

  Vicky

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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-16 Thread Sharyl
This is true for FIV.  There is no FIP vaccine.  There is no test for FIP.  
Sharyl


- Original Message -
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

Both vaccines, FIV and FIP, will make cats test POSITIVE forever!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

Think u r referring to the fiv vaccine

Christiane Biagi
Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:

Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it. The 
vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for it if 
given the vaccination..

This is too important not to mention

L
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee Evans 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions


  There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona 
virus.  Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.  FIP 
is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically 
predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's definitely 
not very prevalent.  I have had cats who tested above 400 for corona virus and 
never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested very low for corona 
virus.  He had apparently been exposed to the form that he was predisposed to 
contract.  He was also a street cat, in poor health in general.  Lee



  From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions



  YES!

  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

  Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?


  On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:
  Hi Everyone

  I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 
precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV 
positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(

  Details:
  Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. 
He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the skinny 
side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round of 
cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't 
completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just 
a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.

  Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He 
currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. 
This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I don't 
think it is related.

  Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had 
him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 
weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year.

  If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:

  Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him 
up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he is 
not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our vet to 
start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else be 
better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is noticeably 
sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
  Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't 
lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.
  Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of 
thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then 
neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled 
with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he 
must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on 
the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I being 
naive here? Should we find him another home?
  Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' 
lives with a reasonable quality?

  Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message.

  Vicky

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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-16 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
Try searching for FIP nosodes in Google.   There are some out there with
50% success rates.


On Thu, Feb 16, 2012 at 2:02 PM, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:

 This is true for FIV.  There is no FIP vaccine.  There is no test for
 FIP.
 Sharyl

 - Original Message -
 From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Cc:
 Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:10 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

 Both vaccines, FIV and FIP, will make cats test POSITIVE forever!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
 felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi
 Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:46 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

 Think u r referring to the fiv vaccine

 Christiane Biagi
 Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

 Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:

 Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it.
 The vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for
 it if given the vaccination..
 
 This is too important not to mention
 
 L
   - Original Message -
   From: Lee Evans
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions
 
 
   There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona
 virus.  Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.
 FIP is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically
 predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's
 definitely not very prevalent.  I have had cats who tested above 400 for
 corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested
 very low for corona virus.  He had apparently been exposed to the form that
 he was predisposed to contract.  He was also a street cat, in poor health
 in general.  Lee
 
 
 
   From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions
 
 
 
   YES!
 
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:
 felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
   Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions
 
   Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?
 
 
   On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za
 wrote:
   Hi Everyone
 
   I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3
 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV
 positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(
 
   Details:
   Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at
 all. He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on
 the skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a
 round of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still
 isn't completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours,
 more just a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.
 
   Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not
 FIP). He currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does
 vomit a lot. This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is
 long-haired, so I don't think it is related.
 
   Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV).
 We had him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the
 booster 4 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every
 year.
 
   If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:
 
   Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him
 up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he
 is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our
 vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something
 else be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is
 noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
   Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine,
 hasn't lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6
 years.
   Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot
 of thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was
 then neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so
 settled with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I
 think he must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would
 groom him on the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has
 immunity. Am I being naive here? Should we find him another home?
   Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys'
 lives with a reasonable quality?
 
   Thanks so much in advance. And sorry

Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-16 Thread GRAS
There are drops that are put into the nose for FIP as a vaccine . Reliable 
diagnosis is based on all the symptoms put together and much more easily 
recognized when it’s the wet form of FIP with “ascites’.

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 6:03 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

 

This is true for FIV.  There is no FIP vaccine.  There is no test for FIP.  

Sharyl

 

- Original Message -
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc: 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 11:10 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

Both vaccines, FIV and FIP, will make cats test POSITIVE forever!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Christiane Biagi
Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 11:46 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

Think u r referring to the fiv vaccine

Christiane Biagi
Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:

Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it. The 
vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for it if 
given the vaccination..

This is too important not to mention

L
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee Evans 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions


  There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona 
 virus.  Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.  FIP 
 is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically 
 predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's 
 definitely not very prevalent.  I have had cats who tested above 400 for 
 corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested 
 very low for corona virus.  He had apparently been exposed to the form that 
 he was predisposed to contract.  He was also a street cat, in poor health in 
 general.  Lee



  From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions



  YES!

  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

  Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?


  On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:
  Hi Everyone

  I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 
 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV 
 positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(

  Details:
  Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. 
 He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the 
 skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round 
 of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't 
 completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just 
 a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.

  Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He 
 currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. 
 This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I 
 don't think it is related.

  Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had 
 him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 
 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year.

  If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:

  Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him 
 up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he 
 is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our 
 vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else 
 be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is 
 noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
  Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't 
 lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.
  Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of 
 thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then 
 neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled 
 with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he 
 must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on 
 the face when he was little), so my prayer

Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-16 Thread dlgegg
did she also have a tendecy to avoid the liter box.  Casey does that.


 Marta Gasper marta.gas...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Vicky..abt kitty #2 that you said vomits a lot, it isn't necesaraly b/c he's 
 long haired..I assume you meant he hacks up hairballs, or does he vomits 
 clear liquid? Clear could be trying to bring up a hairball too but at 11 I'd 
 have him checked for a renal condition.
 Cats with CRF throw up very often, I had a 10 yr old  that was sick almost 
 every other day, she was fine otherwise but her kidneys were failing. I 
 didn't know the first year until she had a senior panel.
 So if you haven't done it, I'd suggest you go that route for him.
 Marta
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-16 Thread gary
can you refer me to info that says FIP vaccine makes cat test positive? 
Can't say that I have heard that before.  I do know that if the cat was 
previously exposed to corona vitus, it is ineffective.


Gary

--
From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2012 10:10 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FIP


Both vaccines, FIV and FIP, will make cats test POSITIVE forever!




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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-15 Thread Christiane Biagi
Think u r referring to the fiv vaccine

Christiane Biagi
Sent from my Samsung Epic™ 4G

Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote:

Just a note regarding FIP. Please be advised not to vaccinate against it. The 
vaccine is very controversial and the cat will ALWAYS test positive for it if 
given the vaccination..

This is too important not to mention

L
  - Original Message - 
  From: Lee Evans 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:04 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions


  There is no reliable test for FIP.  Your cat tested positive for corona 
 virus.  Most cats will test positive for corona virus and never get ill.  FIP 
 is caused by a form of corona virus to which some cats are genetically 
 predisposed to contract if exposed to it.  FIP is not rare but it's 
 definitely not very prevalent.  I have had cats who tested above 400 for 
 corona virus and never got FIP and a cat who definitely had FIP but tested 
 very low for corona virus.  He had apparently been exposed to the form that 
 he was predisposed to contract.  He was also a street cat, in poor health in 
 general.  Lee



  From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 7:40 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions



  YES!

  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathryn Hargreaves
  Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2012 4:52 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New and Some Questions

  Anyone: do you have to repeat the Felv vac every year?


  On Wed, Feb 15, 2012 at 6:46 AM, Vicky Eyal vi...@droreyal.co.za wrote:
  Hi Everyone

  I am new to this list and to the world of Feline Leukemia. We have 3 
 precious cats, and we found out at the end of last year that two are FeLV 
 positive, and of those two, one is FIP positive as well :(

  Details:
  Kitty1 (11 years old, male) is the reason we got any of them tested at all. 
 He was just a little off - more subdued, less energy, a little on the 
 skinny side. He tested positive for FeLV and FIP. Our vet put him on a round 
 of cortisone and antibiotics, and he seemed to bounce back. He still isn't 
 completely 100% though (although hard to pinpint actual behaviours, more just 
 a general sense I have), and is still skinnier than I would like.

  Kitty2 (11 years old, male) also tested positive for FeLV (but not FIP). He 
 currently has no noticeable symptoms at all, although he does vomit a lot. 
 This has been going on for 5-6 years though, and he is long-haired, so I 
 don't think it is related.

  Kitty3 (1 year old, male) tested negative for both viruses (and FIV). We had 
 him vaccinated against FeLV when he tested negative, and he had the booster 4 
 weeks later. We will continue to give him the vaccination every year.

  If you got through all of this, thanks so much. Now my questions:

  Q1. I want to start Kitty1 on some form of treatment, just to build him 
 up/keep him strong. I have the sense that all is not 100%, even although he 
 is not noticeably unwell, is eating fine etc. I was thinking of asking our 
 vet to start Interferon. Any thoughts here? Suggestions? Would something else 
 be better? Would it be bad to start a treatment like this before he is 
 noticeably sick? What is the recommended dosage here?
  Q2. Is there anything I should be doing for Kitty2. He seems fine, hasn't 
 lost weight etc. He does throw up a lot, but has for the last 5-6 years.
  Q3. We have decided to keep Kitty3 instead of rehoming him, after a lot of 
 thought. He has had 3 homes in the last year (a shelter rescue who was then 
 neglected by the person who adopted him... g...), and he is so settled 
 with us, that I worry about trying to find him yet another home. I think he 
 must have been exposed by now in any case (the older boys would groom him on 
 the face when he was little), so my prayer is that he has immunity. Am I 
 being naive here? Should we find him another home?
  Q4. Any tips, advice, suggestions on what I can do to prolong our boys' 
 lives with a reasonable quality?

  Thanks so much in advance. And sorry for the long message.

  Vicky

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Re: [Felvtalk] FIP

2012-02-15 Thread Marta Gasper
Vicky..abt kitty #2 that you said vomits a lot, it isn't necesaraly b/c he's 
long haired..I assume you meant he hacks up hairballs, or does he vomits clear 
liquid? Clear could be trying to bring up a hairball too but at 11 I'd have him 
checked for a renal condition.
Cats with CRF throw up very often, I had a 10 yr old  that was sick almost 
every other day, she was fine otherwise but her kidneys were failing. I didn't 
know the first year until she had a senior panel.
So if you haven't done it, I'd suggest you go that route for him.
Marta


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