Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-08-25 Thread Edna Taylor

have they checked her for an esophageal stricture?  SAME THING happened to 
Momma Kat and they had did the following treatment:
 
"BES is best treated with mechanical dilation using a balloon catheter under 
endoscopic guidance"
 
She has this done three times before it finally "tooK".  When she eats, does 
she hold her head to the side and chew like something is stuck in her mouth or 
throat?

 



From: czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2011 21:54:23 +
CC: landis.mcen...@yahoo.com; daben...@mninter.net; kjen...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne






update:
 
please review lower string.
 
BreAnne had been eating a breakfast and supper of Fancy Feast Beef pretty much 
exclusively since the May email below  She had gained weight - -was still 
hiding out but present in her life.  For the last several weeks she has been 
laying exclusively on her side and meowing when I would pick her up to move her 
 - - chest contact.  approximately 8.16 seemed like had something 
intermittently caught in her throat.  took her to local vet on 8.20 since more 
highly trusted 30 miles and 60 miles away vets were not available.  he gave us 
_ for hairball and albon.  Monday she started to vomit up food 
immediately after eating.  Since Monday she eats, she vomits, I feed, . . .  
She is increasingly  bringing up frothy phlegm.  she makes a sound in her mouth 
(epiglottis?).  I have been orally hydrating her. She definitely has an 
appetite.  know definitely not passing stool yesterday/doubtful urinated.  gave 
her food this morning, vomit, more food (pate), vomit, nutri-cal, vomit, more 
nutrical, vomit, a couple table spoons of homemade chicken broth with vitamins, 
vomited up stringing clear phlegm.  vet only says feline leukemia.  Monday 
night after the feeding and vomiting episode she was back up on her chest and 
the noise in her throat had subsided. just as it did this morning. I told vet I 
wanted to try a different antibiotic before doing a film.  ampicillin and 
baytril. 
 
she does not seem to be suffering and is active with her tail up. 
 
we trust you more than any vet we have access to.
 
please.  comments.  your experiences?
 
yes, I am willing to let her go very soon. 
thank you.



 
> From: czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; landis.mcen...@yahoo.com
> Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 20:42:06 +
> Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> took BreAnne to vet yesterday. chem screen all within normal limits. on CBC: 
> lymphocytes were high. vet said she definitely has leukemia. WBC were 
> 13.2;HCT was 32%; HgB of 9.9; RBC's 6.5 - - all within normal range. 
> platelets are low; neutrophils are low, and Ly (what is that) are high. he 
> said her hydration was good. amoxicillin for 10 days and hope she pulls out 
> of it. he said she had a lot of poop inside. sent me home with an enema. his 
> diagnosis was alopecia and lymphadenopathy - - in her neck and behind her 
> knees. and I know often the growths cannot be felt.
> 
> you encouraged me to hang with her. continuing the supplements. 
> 
> she seems like a lost little soul; eats a few bites and then leaves or 
> doesn't eat at all. will eat in privacy but very, very particular. took the 
> other cats to the country and have taken her out there a couple days. she ran 
> up a tree Friday morning.
> 
> please hang with us. counsel?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:45:54 -0500
> > From: dlg...@windstream.net
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne
> > CC: czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com
> > 
> > Has your vet done a complete blood panel on her? You might be able to find 
> > a clue to her problem. Also complete urine test would help. These will help 
> > identify a problem. Since cats are so good at hiding illness, we sometimes 
> > need to go to extemes. It costs, but may be less in the long runsince you 
> > find out fast what is wrong and needs to be done. 
> > As to food, I have found that Gerber's baby food (check first to be sure 
> > there is on onion or garlic in it) is easier to feed and my girls have 
> > responded to that. Also, add hot water to canned food. My girls and boy 
> > seem to prefer the liquid to eating the meat. At least they get some 
> > nutrition. Also, has your vet said anything about doing sub q fluids? I had 
> > to do that with Lil Bit after I first got her. Se was stressed out, had a 
> > ragged coat, no luster and had lost weight. After a little over 1 - 1/2 
> > weeks, she responded and has been fine since. Giving her fluids wasn't very 
> > hard. The vet gave me a bag of f

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-08-25 Thread czadna sacarawicz

update:
 
please review lower string.
 
BreAnne had been eating a breakfast and supper of Fancy Feast Beef pretty much 
exclusively since the May email below  She had gained weight - -was still 
hiding out but present in her life.  For the last several weeks she has been 
laying exclusively on her side and meowing when I would pick her up to move her 
 - - chest contact.  approximately 8.16 seemed like had something 
intermittently caught in her throat.  took her to local vet on 8.20 since more 
highly trusted 30 miles and 60 miles away vets were not available.  he gave us 
_ for hairball and albon.  Monday she started to vomit up food 
immediately after eating.  Since Monday she eats, she vomits, I feed, . . .  
She is increasingly  bringing up frothy phlegm.  she makes a sound in her mouth 
(epiglottis?).  I have been orally hydrating her. She definitely has an 
appetite.  know definitely not passing stool yesterday/doubtful urinated.  gave 
her food this morning, vomit, more food (pate), vomit, nutri-cal, vomit, more 
nutrical, vomit, a couple table spoons of homemade chicken broth with vitamins, 
vomited up stringing clear phlegm.  vet only says feline leukemia.  Monday 
night after the feeding and vomiting episode she was back up on her chest and 
the noise in her throat had subsided. just as it did this morning. I told vet I 
wanted to try a different antibiotic before doing a film.  ampicillin and 
baytril. 
 
she does not seem to be suffering and is active with her tail up. 
 
we trust you more than any vet we have access to.
 
please.  comments.  your experiences?
 
yes, I am willing to let her go very soon.
 
thank you.


 
> From: czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org; landis.mcen...@yahoo.com
> Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 20:42:06 +
> Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> took BreAnne to vet yesterday. chem screen all within normal limits. on CBC: 
> lymphocytes were high. vet said she definitely has leukemia. WBC were 
> 13.2;HCT was 32%; HgB of 9.9; RBC's 6.5 - - all within normal range. 
> platelets are low; neutrophils are low, and Ly (what is that) are high. he 
> said her hydration was good. amoxicillin for 10 days and hope she pulls out 
> of it. he said she had a lot of poop inside. sent me home with an enema. his 
> diagnosis was alopecia and lymphadenopathy - - in her neck and behind her 
> knees. and I know often the growths cannot be felt.
> 
> you encouraged me to hang with her. continuing the supplements. 
> 
> she seems like a lost little soul; eats a few bites and then leaves or 
> doesn't eat at all. will eat in privacy but very, very particular. took the 
> other cats to the country and have taken her out there a couple days. she ran 
> up a tree Friday morning.
> 
> please hang with us. counsel?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> > Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:45:54 -0500
> > From: dlg...@windstream.net
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne
> > CC: czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com
> > 
> > Has your vet done a complete blood panel on her? You might be able to find 
> > a clue to her problem. Also complete urine test would help. These will help 
> > identify a problem. Since cats are so good at hiding illness, we sometimes 
> > need to go to extemes. It costs, but may be less in the long runsince you 
> > find out fast what is wrong and needs to be done. 
> > As to food, I have found that Gerber's baby food (check first to be sure 
> > there is on onion or garlic in it) is easier to feed and my girls have 
> > responded to that. Also, add hot water to canned food. My girls and boy 
> > seem to prefer the liquid to eating the meat. At least they get some 
> > nutrition. Also, has your vet said anything about doing sub q fluids? I had 
> > to do that with Lil Bit after I first got her. Se was stressed out, had a 
> > ragged coat, no luster and had lost weight. After a little over 1 - 1/2 
> > weeks, she responded and has been fine since. Giving her fluids wasn't very 
> > hard. The vet gave me a bag of fluids and needles and told me how to do it. 
> > The heardest part was sticking her with the needle but I remimded myself I 
> > was doing it for her benefit. 
> > If she is stressed out, maybe keep her seperate from the others for a while 
> > and give her lots of extra attention and loving to reassure her that she is 
> > loved. Then reintroduce her to the others and see how it goes then. These 
> > ae all tihngs I have done with my pride. Good luck! 
> >  czadna sacarawicz  wrote: 
> > > 
> > > BreAnne is just short of 2 yoa; spayed. She was the playmate of ToriRose 
> > > who succumbed to Fe leukemia 2.2010. BreAnne tested + at that time. Isaac 
> > > left 2.2011. I gathered everyone else up and moved them into my apartment 
> > > from the country when Isaac left. BreAnne was/is an assertive female. 
> > > Isaac used to terrorize Scrumptious in a major way. BreAnne and 
> > > 

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-30 Thread dlgegg
Grilled steak!  I cannot afford that for me, much less 7 cats
 Katy Doyle  wrote: 
> My cats LOVE baked chicken and grilled steak (medium rare) - but only when
> it is freshly cooked. They don't like reheated food.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:06 PM, POTT, BEVERLY  wrote:
> 
> > Same here- I put the baby food in a bowl, and then run the hot water into
> > the empty jar- fill it up, then dump it in the bowl and mix it up.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:51 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
> >
> > I just let the hot water run until it is hot enough to warm up the food so
> > it smells good and they come running.  I only give each one about 1 teaspoon
> > because they prefe the liquid to the actual meat.  They will come back later
> > and nibble at the meat, but the liquid dissappears real fast.
> >
> > > > On May 9, 2011, at 5:03 PM, czadna sacarawicz wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> THANK YOU.
> > > >>
> > > >> we are not alone.
> > > >>
> > > >> really, really appreciate your ideas and presence
> > > >>
> > > >> yesterday we tried Gerber 2 chicken with gravy (chicken &
> >  cornstarch).
> > > >> warmed a bit in microwave.  not interested.  this  morning nosed it
> > > >> around and left.  I keep picking her up and  bringing her back or
> > > >> taking the dish to her.  did eat Fancy Feast  beef well this a.m.
> > > >> routinely had used microwaved sweet potatoes  but not since all
> > > >> this came down.  had thought about fish but  haven't tried that
> > > >> since had read that shouldn't .
> > > >>
> > > >> soupy.  makes much much sense.  hair ball gel.
> > > >>
> > > >> thank you.  forward together.
> > > >>
> > > >> thanks to each of you from your beloveds in honor of Mother's Day.
> > they
> > > >> send you love.
> > > >>
> > > >> m
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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-17 Thread czadna sacarawicz

BreAnne is eating exclusively Fancy Feast Beef.  Last night she put away almost 
6 ounces.  She ate a boiled chicken neck but would not touch the rich giblet 
broth

 I feed her in isolation with patience.  Thank you for the idea of putting 
things on her nose for her to lick off.   
 
quietly.  with gratitude
 
BreAnne, Scrumptious, Luscious, Mama, Pookashay, Harold, Shallie Marie,  James, 
Henry and Yamuna plus the ferals


 
> Date: Mon, 16 May 2011 23:13:03 -0500
> From: dlg...@windstream.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
> 
> I also found out that they do not like warmed over foods. They sat in the 
> bowls all day and I ended up throwing them out.
> 
> 
>  Katy Doyle  wrote: 
> > My cats LOVE baked chicken and grilled steak (medium rare) - but only when
> > it is freshly cooked. They don't like reheated food.
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:06 PM, POTT, BEVERLY  wrote:
> > 
> > > Same here- I put the baby food in a bowl, and then run the hot water into
> > > the empty jar- fill it up, then dump it in the bowl and mix it up.
> > >
> > >
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net]
> > > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:51 AM
> > > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
> > >
> > > I just let the hot water run until it is hot enough to warm up the food so
> > > it smells good and they come running. I only give each one about 1 
> > > teaspoon
> > > because they prefe the liquid to the actual meat. They will come back 
> > > later
> > > and nibble at the meat, but the liquid dissappears real fast.
> > >
> > > > > On May 9, 2011, at 5:03 PM, czadna sacarawicz wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>
> > > > >> THANK YOU.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> we are not alone.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> really, really appreciate your ideas and presence
> > > > >>
> > > > >> yesterday we tried Gerber 2 chicken with gravy (chicken &
> > > cornstarch).
> > > > >> warmed a bit in microwave. not interested. this morning nosed it
> > > > >> around and left. I keep picking her up and bringing her back or
> > > > >> taking the dish to her. did eat Fancy Feast beef well this a.m.
> > > > >> routinely had used microwaved sweet potatoes but not since all
> > > > >> this came down. had thought about fish but haven't tried that
> > > > >> since had read that shouldn't .
> > > > >>
> > > > >> soupy. makes much much sense. hair ball gel.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> thank you. forward together.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> thanks to each of you from your beloveds in honor of Mother's Day.
> > > they
> > > > >> send you love.
> > > > >>
> > > > >> m
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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-16 Thread MaiMaiPG
Mine will eat warmed overs if heated with water, in a crockpot or left  
out to warm but if the food is warmed in a microwave they won't go  
near it.  Wonder if they know something we don't know.
On May 16, 2011, at 11:13 PM,  > wrote:


I also found out that they do not like warmed over foods.  They sat  
in the bowls all day and I ended up throwing them out.



 Katy Doyle  wrote:
My cats LOVE baked chicken and grilled steak (medium rare) - but  
only when

it is freshly cooked. They don't like reheated food.



On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:06 PM, POTT, BEVERLY  
 wrote:


Same here- I put the baby food in a bowl, and then run the hot  
water into

the empty jar- fill it up, then dump it in the bowl and mix it up.


-Original Message-
From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net]
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:51 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

I just let the hot water run until it is hot enough to warm up the  
food so
it smells good and they come running.  I only give each one about  
1 teaspoon
because they prefe the liquid to the actual meat.  They will come  
back later

and nibble at the meat, but the liquid dissappears real fast.


On May 9, 2011, at 5:03 PM, czadna sacarawicz wrote:



THANK YOU.

we are not alone.

really, really appreciate your ideas and presence

yesterday we tried Gerber 2 chicken with gravy (chicken &

cornstarch).
warmed a bit in microwave.  not interested.  this  morning  
nosed it

around and left.  I keep picking her up and  bringing her back or
taking the dish to her.  did eat Fancy Feast  beef well this a.m.
routinely had used microwaved sweet potatoes  but not since all
this came down.  had thought about fish but  haven't tried that
since had read that shouldn't .

soupy.  makes much much sense.  hair ball gel.

thank you.  forward together.

thanks to each of you from your beloveds in honor of Mother's  
Day.

they

send you love.

m

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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-16 Thread dlgegg
I also found out that they do not like warmed over foods.  They sat in the 
bowls all day and I ended up throwing them out.


 Katy Doyle  wrote: 
> My cats LOVE baked chicken and grilled steak (medium rare) - but only when
> it is freshly cooked. They don't like reheated food.
> 
> 
> 
> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:06 PM, POTT, BEVERLY  wrote:
> 
> > Same here- I put the baby food in a bowl, and then run the hot water into
> > the empty jar- fill it up, then dump it in the bowl and mix it up.
> >
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:51 AM
> > To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> > Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
> >
> > I just let the hot water run until it is hot enough to warm up the food so
> > it smells good and they come running.  I only give each one about 1 teaspoon
> > because they prefe the liquid to the actual meat.  They will come back later
> > and nibble at the meat, but the liquid dissappears real fast.
> >
> > > > On May 9, 2011, at 5:03 PM, czadna sacarawicz wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>
> > > >> THANK YOU.
> > > >>
> > > >> we are not alone.
> > > >>
> > > >> really, really appreciate your ideas and presence
> > > >>
> > > >> yesterday we tried Gerber 2 chicken with gravy (chicken &
> >  cornstarch).
> > > >> warmed a bit in microwave.  not interested.  this  morning nosed it
> > > >> around and left.  I keep picking her up and  bringing her back or
> > > >> taking the dish to her.  did eat Fancy Feast  beef well this a.m.
> > > >> routinely had used microwaved sweet potatoes  but not since all
> > > >> this came down.  had thought about fish but  haven't tried that
> > > >> since had read that shouldn't .
> > > >>
> > > >> soupy.  makes much much sense.  hair ball gel.
> > > >>
> > > >> thank you.  forward together.
> > > >>
> > > >> thanks to each of you from your beloveds in honor of Mother's Day.
> > they
> > > >> send you love.
> > > >>
> > > >> m
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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-10 Thread Katy Doyle
My cats LOVE baked chicken and grilled steak (medium rare) - but only when
it is freshly cooked. They don't like reheated food.



On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:06 PM, POTT, BEVERLY  wrote:

> Same here- I put the baby food in a bowl, and then run the hot water into
> the empty jar- fill it up, then dump it in the bowl and mix it up.
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:51 AM
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
>
> I just let the hot water run until it is hot enough to warm up the food so
> it smells good and they come running.  I only give each one about 1 teaspoon
> because they prefe the liquid to the actual meat.  They will come back later
> and nibble at the meat, but the liquid dissappears real fast.
>
> > > On May 9, 2011, at 5:03 PM, czadna sacarawicz wrote:
> > >
> > >>
> > >> THANK YOU.
> > >>
> > >> we are not alone.
> > >>
> > >> really, really appreciate your ideas and presence
> > >>
> > >> yesterday we tried Gerber 2 chicken with gravy (chicken &
>  cornstarch).
> > >> warmed a bit in microwave.  not interested.  this  morning nosed it
> > >> around and left.  I keep picking her up and  bringing her back or
> > >> taking the dish to her.  did eat Fancy Feast  beef well this a.m.
> > >> routinely had used microwaved sweet potatoes  but not since all
> > >> this came down.  had thought about fish but  haven't tried that
> > >> since had read that shouldn't .
> > >>
> > >> soupy.  makes much much sense.  hair ball gel.
> > >>
> > >> thank you.  forward together.
> > >>
> > >> thanks to each of you from your beloveds in honor of Mother's Day.
> they
> > >> send you love.
> > >>
> > >> m
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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-10 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Same here- I put the baby food in a bowl, and then run the hot water into the 
empty jar- fill it up, then dump it in the bowl and mix it up.


-Original Message-
From: dlg...@windstream.net [mailto:dlg...@windstream.net] 
Sent: Tuesday, May 10, 2011 12:51 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

I just let the hot water run until it is hot enough to warm up the food so it 
smells good and they come running.  I only give each one about 1 teaspoon 
because they prefe the liquid to the actual meat.  They will come back later 
and nibble at the meat, but the liquid dissappears real fast.

> > On May 9, 2011, at 5:03 PM, czadna sacarawicz wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> THANK YOU.
> >>
> >> we are not alone.
> >>
> >> really, really appreciate your ideas and presence
> >>
> >> yesterday we tried Gerber 2 chicken with gravy (chicken &  cornstarch). 
> >> warmed a bit in microwave.  not interested.  this  morning nosed it 
> >> around and left.  I keep picking her up and  bringing her back or 
> >> taking the dish to her.  did eat Fancy Feast  beef well this a.m.  
> >> routinely had used microwaved sweet potatoes  but not since all 
> >> this came down.  had thought about fish but  haven't tried that 
> >> since had read that shouldn't .
> >>
> >> soupy.  makes much much sense.  hair ball gel.
> >>
> >> thank you.  forward together.
> >>
> >> thanks to each of you from your beloveds in honor of Mother's Day.   they 
> >> send you love.
> >>
> >> m
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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-09 Thread dlgegg
You are right, it has to be real soupy and the stinkier it is, the better.  
Mine really love mackeral.  Can't figure out why they do not like salmon.   
MaiMaiPG  wrote: 
> KFC (minus the skin), the cheapest tuna (forget the good stuff, they  
> don't like it), soupy stuff (even the healthy ferals seem to like the  
> juice/liquid better than the meat alone).  Hunter would eat raw  
> hamburger with very hot water poured on it in small amounts just  
> before he left this world.  This gave a fatty liquid + meat similar to  
> a just killed critter I guess.  He drank it and enjoyed it when he  
> enjoyed nothing else.  Hunter was not FELV+ to the BOMK.  The ferals  
> like their mackerel mashed up with hot water too.  The trick is to  
> make it sort of stew like.
> 
> How about some sort of laxative---hair ball gel  Someone on the  
> board will be better with this than I am.  The ferals usually have the  
> opposite issue.
> 
> Bless you and hang in there.  It really is worth it.
> On May 8, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Natalie wrote:
> 
> > Instead of an enema, which cats (nor we) really appreciate, why not  
> > try some
> > fiber?
> > Have you tried sardines, mackerel, Boston Market chicken (if there's  
> > one
> > near you), smoked ham, thin slices of roast beef - all those things  
> > are
> > great for fussy eating cats (one of those things might just be it).
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
> > [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna  
> > sacarawicz
> > Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 4:42 PM
> > To: feline leukemia list; Landis McEntee
> > Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > took BreAnne to vet yesterday.  chem screen all within normal  
> > limits.  on
> > CBC: lymphocytes were high.  vet said she definitely has leukemia.   
> > WBC were
> > 13.2;HCT was 32%; HgB of 9.9; RBC's 6.5  - - all within normal range.
> > platelets are low; neutrophils are low, and Ly (what is that) are  
> > high. he
> > said her hydration was good.  amoxicillin for 10 days and hope she  
> > pulls out
> > of it.  he said she had a lot of poop inside.  sent me home with an  
> > enema.
> > his diagnosis was alopecia and lymphadenopathy - - in her neck and  
> > behind
> > her knees.  and I know often the growths cannot be felt.
> >
> > you encouraged me to hang with her.  continuing the supplements.
> >
> > she seems like a lost little soul; eats a few bites and then leaves or
> > doesn't eat at all.  will eat in privacy but very, very particular.   
> > took
> > the other cats to the country and have taken her out there a couple  
> > days.
> > she ran up a tree Friday morning.
> >
> > please hang with us.  counsel?
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:45:54 -0500
> >> From: dlg...@windstream.net
> >> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne
> >> CC: czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com
> >>
> >> Has your vet done a complete blood panel on her? You might be able  
> >> to find
> > a clue to her problem. Also complete urine test would help. These  
> > will help
> > identify a problem. Since cats are so good at hiding illness, we  
> > sometimes
> > need to go to extemes. It costs, but may be less in the long  
> > runsince you
> > find out fast what is wrong and needs to be done.
> >> As to food, I have found that Gerber's baby food (check first to be  
> >> sure
> > there is on onion or garlic in it) is easier to feed and my girls have
> > responded to that. Also, add hot water to canned food. My girls and  
> > boy seem
> > to prefer the liquid to eating the meat. At least they get some  
> > nutrition.
> > Also, has your vet said anything about doing sub q fluids? I had to  
> > do that
> > with Lil Bit after I first got her. Se was stressed out, had a  
> > ragged coat,
> > no luster and had lost weight. After a little over 1 - 1/2 weeks, she
> > responded and has been fine since. Giving her fluids wasn't very  
> > hard. The
> > vet gave me a bag of fluids and needles and told me how to do it. The
> > heardest part was sticking her with the needle but I remimded myself  
> > I was
> > doing it for her benefit.
> >> If she is stressed out, maybe keep her seperate from the others for a
> > while and give her lots of extra attention and loving to reassure  
> > her that
> > she is loved. Then reintroduce her to the others and see how it goes  
> > then.
> > These ae all tihngs I have done with my pride. Good luck!
> >>  czadna sacarawicz  wrote:
> >>>
> >>> BreAnne is just short of 2 yoa; spayed. She was the playmate of  
> >>> ToriRose
> > who succumbed to Fe leukemia 2.2010. BreAnne tested + at that time.  
> > Isaac
> > left 2.2011. I gathered everyone else up and moved them into my  
> > apartment
> > from the country when Isaac left. BreAnne was/is an assertive  
> > female. Isaac
> > used to terrorize Scrumptious in a major way. BreAnne and  

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-09 Thread dlgegg
I just let the hot water run until it is hot enough to warm up the food so it 
smells good and they come running.  I only give each one about 1 teaspoon 
because they prefe the liquid to the actual meat.  They will come back later 
and nibble at the meat, but the liquid dissappears real fast.
 Lynda Wilson  wrote: 
> I've never had a cat eat anything from the microwave. They are just too 
> smart for their own good! I always set any cold food out at room temp and 
> they have always seemed to like it better. Also, some just like to lick it 
> off your finger. It's worth it to get them to eat even if you have to hand 
> feed them for 20 min. This is just my experience with all the cats I have 
> had in my lifetime. Hope this helps :0)
> 
> Good luck & keep us posted!
> - Original Message - 
> From: "MaiMaiPG" 
> To: 
> Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 5:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
> 
> 
> > My cats have never liked microwaved anything.  Try filling a bowl with 
> > very hot water then putting another bowl with the food into the bowl  with 
> > the hot water.
> >
> > I don't eat meat but I've had people tell me that it is gross  microwaved.
> > On May 9, 2011, at 5:03 PM, czadna sacarawicz wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> THANK YOU.
> >>
> >> we are not alone.
> >>
> >> really, really appreciate your ideas and presence
> >>
> >> yesterday we tried Gerber 2 chicken with gravy (chicken &  cornstarch). 
> >> warmed a bit in microwave.  not interested.  this  morning nosed it 
> >> around and left.  I keep picking her up and  bringing her back or taking 
> >> the dish to her.  did eat Fancy Feast  beef well this a.m.  routinely had 
> >> used microwaved sweet potatoes  but not since all this came down.  had 
> >> thought about fish but  haven't tried that since had read that shouldn't 
> >> .
> >>
> >> soupy.  makes much much sense.  hair ball gel.
> >>
> >> thank you.  forward together.
> >>
> >> thanks to each of you from your beloveds in honor of Mother's Day.   they 
> >> send you love.
> >>
> >> m
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 14:37:38 -0700
> >>> From: ma...@bemikitties.com
> >>> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
> >>>
> >>> This was suggested to get her to eat, as for fiber you could add a
> >>> little peas or squash baby food to it, my kitties preferred the peas,
> >>> not too much or you will take the meat flavor away. Maybe a 1/4 jar  of
> >>> peas to a jar of meat.
> >>>
> >>> On 5/8/2011 2:33 PM, Belinda Sauro wrote:
> >>>> And baby food, make sure no onion and supplement with taurine, most
> >>>> kitties love baby food. I use the beechnut meat flavors and gerber
> >>>> 2nd foods, they don't have anything but meat and water and a starch,
> >>>> no onion in them.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> -- 
> >>> Belinda
> >>> happiness is being owned by cats ...
> >>>
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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-09 Thread Lynda Wilson
I've never had a cat eat anything from the microwave. They are just too 
smart for their own good! I always set any cold food out at room temp and 
they have always seemed to like it better. Also, some just like to lick it 
off your finger. It's worth it to get them to eat even if you have to hand 
feed them for 20 min. This is just my experience with all the cats I have 
had in my lifetime. Hope this helps :0)


Good luck & keep us posted!
- Original Message - 
From: "MaiMaiPG" 

To: 
Sent: Monday, May 09, 2011 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne


My cats have never liked microwaved anything.  Try filling a bowl with 
very hot water then putting another bowl with the food into the bowl  with 
the hot water.


I don't eat meat but I've had people tell me that it is gross  microwaved.
On May 9, 2011, at 5:03 PM, czadna sacarawicz wrote:



THANK YOU.

we are not alone.

really, really appreciate your ideas and presence

yesterday we tried Gerber 2 chicken with gravy (chicken &  cornstarch). 
warmed a bit in microwave.  not interested.  this  morning nosed it 
around and left.  I keep picking her up and  bringing her back or taking 
the dish to her.  did eat Fancy Feast  beef well this a.m.  routinely had 
used microwaved sweet potatoes  but not since all this came down.  had 
thought about fish but  haven't tried that since had read that shouldn't 
.


soupy.  makes much much sense.  hair ball gel.

thank you.  forward together.

thanks to each of you from your beloveds in honor of Mother's Day.   they 
send you love.


m




Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 14:37:38 -0700
From: ma...@bemikitties.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

This was suggested to get her to eat, as for fiber you could add a
little peas or squash baby food to it, my kitties preferred the peas,
not too much or you will take the meat flavor away. Maybe a 1/4 jar  of
peas to a jar of meat.

On 5/8/2011 2:33 PM, Belinda Sauro wrote:

And baby food, make sure no onion and supplement with taurine, most
kitties love baby food. I use the beechnut meat flavors and gerber
2nd foods, they don't have anything but meat and water and a starch,
no onion in them.



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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-09 Thread MaiMaiPG
My cats have never liked microwaved anything.  Try filling a bowl with  
very hot water then putting another bowl with the food into the bowl  
with the hot water.


I don't eat meat but I've had people tell me that it is gross  
microwaved.

On May 9, 2011, at 5:03 PM, czadna sacarawicz wrote:



THANK YOU.

we are not alone.

really, really appreciate your ideas and presence

yesterday we tried Gerber 2 chicken with gravy (chicken &  
cornstarch).  warmed a bit in microwave.  not interested.  this  
morning nosed it around and left.  I keep picking her up and  
bringing her back or taking the dish to her.  did eat Fancy Feast  
beef well this a.m.  routinely had used microwaved sweet potatoes  
but not since all this came down.  had thought about fish but  
haven't tried that since had read that shouldn't .


soupy.  makes much much sense.  hair ball gel.

thank you.  forward together.

thanks to each of you from your beloveds in honor of Mother's Day.   
they send you love.


m




Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 14:37:38 -0700
From: ma...@bemikitties.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

This was suggested to get her to eat, as for fiber you could add a
little peas or squash baby food to it, my kitties preferred the peas,
not too much or you will take the meat flavor away. Maybe a 1/4 jar  
of

peas to a jar of meat.

On 5/8/2011 2:33 PM, Belinda Sauro wrote:

And baby food, make sure no onion and supplement with taurine, most
kitties love baby food. I use the beechnut meat flavors and gerber
2nd foods, they don't have anything but meat and water and a starch,
no onion in them.



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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-09 Thread czadna sacarawicz

THANK YOU.
 
we are not alone.
 
really, really appreciate your ideas and presence
 
yesterday we tried Gerber 2 chicken with gravy (chicken & cornstarch).  warmed 
a bit in microwave.  not interested.  this morning nosed it around and left.  I 
keep picking her up and bringing her back or taking the dish to her.  did eat 
Fancy Feast beef well this a.m.  routinely had used microwaved sweet potatoes 
but not since all this came down.  had thought about fish but haven't tried 
that since had read that shouldn't .
 
soupy.  makes much much sense.  hair ball gel. 
 
thank you.  forward together.
 
thanks to each of you from your beloveds in honor of Mother's Day.  they send 
you love.
 
m


 
> Date: Sun, 8 May 2011 14:37:38 -0700
> From: ma...@bemikitties.com
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne
> 
> This was suggested to get her to eat, as for fiber you could add a 
> little peas or squash baby food to it, my kitties preferred the peas, 
> not too much or you will take the meat flavor away. Maybe a 1/4 jar of 
> peas to a jar of meat.
> 
> On 5/8/2011 2:33 PM, Belinda Sauro wrote:
> > And baby food, make sure no onion and supplement with taurine, most 
> > kitties love baby food. I use the beechnut meat flavors and gerber 
> > 2nd foods, they don't have anything but meat and water and a starch, 
> > no onion in them.
> 
> 
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> happiness is being owned by cats ...
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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-08 Thread Belinda Sauro
  This was suggested to get her to eat, as for fiber you could add a 
little peas or squash baby food to it, my kitties preferred the peas, 
not too much or you will take the meat flavor away.  Maybe a 1/4 jar of 
peas to a jar of meat.


On 5/8/2011 2:33 PM, Belinda Sauro wrote:
And baby food, make sure no onion and supplement with taurine, most 
kitties love baby food.  I use the beechnut meat flavors and gerber 
2nd foods, they don't have anything but meat and water and a starch, 
no onion in them.



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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-08 Thread Belinda Sauro
And baby food, make sure no onion and supplement with taurine, most 
kitties love baby food.  I use the beechnut meat flavors and gerber 2nd 
foods, they don't have anything but meat and water and a starch, no 
onion in them.


On 5/8/2011 2:16 PM, Natalie wrote:

Instead of an enema, which cats (nor we) really appreciate, why not try some
fiber?
Have you tried sardines, mackerel, Boston Market chicken (if there's one
near you), smoked ham, thin slices of roast beef - all those things are
great for fussy eating cats (one of those things might just be it).



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Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-08 Thread MaiMaiPG
KFC (minus the skin), the cheapest tuna (forget the good stuff, they  
don't like it), soupy stuff (even the healthy ferals seem to like the  
juice/liquid better than the meat alone).  Hunter would eat raw  
hamburger with very hot water poured on it in small amounts just  
before he left this world.  This gave a fatty liquid + meat similar to  
a just killed critter I guess.  He drank it and enjoyed it when he  
enjoyed nothing else.  Hunter was not FELV+ to the BOMK.  The ferals  
like their mackerel mashed up with hot water too.  The trick is to  
make it sort of stew like.


How about some sort of laxative---hair ball gel  Someone on the  
board will be better with this than I am.  The ferals usually have the  
opposite issue.


Bless you and hang in there.  It really is worth it.
On May 8, 2011, at 4:16 PM, Natalie wrote:

Instead of an enema, which cats (nor we) really appreciate, why not  
try some

fiber?
Have you tried sardines, mackerel, Boston Market chicken (if there's  
one
near you), smoked ham, thin slices of roast beef - all those things  
are

great for fussy eating cats (one of those things might just be it).

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna  
sacarawicz

Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 4:42 PM
To: feline leukemia list; Landis McEntee
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne






took BreAnne to vet yesterday.  chem screen all within normal  
limits.  on
CBC: lymphocytes were high.  vet said she definitely has leukemia.   
WBC were

13.2;HCT was 32%; HgB of 9.9; RBC's 6.5  - - all within normal range.
platelets are low; neutrophils are low, and Ly (what is that) are  
high. he
said her hydration was good.  amoxicillin for 10 days and hope she  
pulls out
of it.  he said she had a lot of poop inside.  sent me home with an  
enema.
his diagnosis was alopecia and lymphadenopathy - - in her neck and  
behind

her knees.  and I know often the growths cannot be felt.

you encouraged me to hang with her.  continuing the supplements.

she seems like a lost little soul; eats a few bites and then leaves or
doesn't eat at all.  will eat in privacy but very, very particular.   
took
the other cats to the country and have taken her out there a couple  
days.

she ran up a tree Friday morning.

please hang with us.  counsel?





Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:45:54 -0500
From: dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne
CC: czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com

Has your vet done a complete blood panel on her? You might be able  
to find
a clue to her problem. Also complete urine test would help. These  
will help
identify a problem. Since cats are so good at hiding illness, we  
sometimes
need to go to extemes. It costs, but may be less in the long  
runsince you

find out fast what is wrong and needs to be done.
As to food, I have found that Gerber's baby food (check first to be  
sure

there is on onion or garlic in it) is easier to feed and my girls have
responded to that. Also, add hot water to canned food. My girls and  
boy seem
to prefer the liquid to eating the meat. At least they get some  
nutrition.
Also, has your vet said anything about doing sub q fluids? I had to  
do that
with Lil Bit after I first got her. Se was stressed out, had a  
ragged coat,

no luster and had lost weight. After a little over 1 - 1/2 weeks, she
responded and has been fine since. Giving her fluids wasn't very  
hard. The

vet gave me a bag of fluids and needles and told me how to do it. The
heardest part was sticking her with the needle but I remimded myself  
I was

doing it for her benefit.

If she is stressed out, maybe keep her seperate from the others for a
while and give her lots of extra attention and loving to reassure  
her that
she is loved. Then reintroduce her to the others and see how it goes  
then.

These ae all tihngs I have done with my pride. Good luck!

 czadna sacarawicz  wrote:


BreAnne is just short of 2 yoa; spayed. She was the playmate of  
ToriRose
who succumbed to Fe leukemia 2.2010. BreAnne tested + at that time.  
Isaac
left 2.2011. I gathered everyone else up and moved them into my  
apartment
from the country when Isaac left. BreAnne was/is an assertive  
female. Isaac
used to terrorize Scrumptious in a major way. BreAnne and  
Scrumptious show

little mercy for each other. There are now 6 cats.


Cats are shedding. BreAnne's tail and rear legs look as if she has  
a bad
case of the fleas. When I flea comb her she continues to lose a lot  
of fur.
there are no fleas. there is now no luster in her fur. Bowel  
movements look

okay.


this past Saturday I continued the follow-up ELISA testing. The 2
originally negative cats are still negative and I vaccinated them. I  
asked
the vet to look at BreAnne. He commented on her ratty, looking dry  
coat,
said she had a temperature (but that it may have been due to the  
l

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-08 Thread john pollack
You can try some pumpkin mix..( Unspiced) Or mix a little mineral oil in their 
wet food. Both act like a laxative to cats!!! I had to do that with Blizzard 
once!! (ever seen a constipated 48lb Turkish Angora mix??? Not a pretty sight!)





From: Natalie 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sun, May 8, 2011 5:16:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

Instead of an enema, which cats (nor we) really appreciate, why not try some
fiber?
Have you tried sardines, mackerel, Boston Market chicken (if there's one
near you), smoked ham, thin slices of roast beef - all those things are
great for fussy eating cats (one of those things might just be it).

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 4:42 PM
To: feline leukemia list; Landis McEntee
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne






took BreAnne to vet yesterday.  chem screen all within normal limits.  on
CBC: lymphocytes were high.  vet said she definitely has leukemia.  WBC were
13.2;HCT was 32%; HgB of 9.9; RBC's 6.5  - - all within normal range.
platelets are low; neutrophils are low, and Ly (what is that) are high. he
said her hydration was good.  amoxicillin for 10 days and hope she pulls out
of it.  he said she had a lot of poop inside.  sent me home with an enema.
his diagnosis was alopecia and lymphadenopathy - - in her neck and behind
her knees.  and I know often the growths cannot be felt.

you encouraged me to hang with her.  continuing the supplements.  

she seems like a lost little soul; eats a few bites and then leaves or
doesn't eat at all.  will eat in privacy but very, very particular.  took
the other cats to the country and have taken her out there a couple days.
she ran up a tree Friday morning.

please hang with us.  counsel?




> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:45:54 -0500
> From: dlg...@windstream.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne
> CC: czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com
> 
> Has your vet done a complete blood panel on her? You might be able to find
a clue to her problem. Also complete urine test would help. These will help
identify a problem. Since cats are so good at hiding illness, we sometimes
need to go to extemes. It costs, but may be less in the long runsince you
find out fast what is wrong and needs to be done. 
> As to food, I have found that Gerber's baby food (check first to be sure
there is on onion or garlic in it) is easier to feed and my girls have
responded to that. Also, add hot water to canned food. My girls and boy seem
to prefer the liquid to eating the meat. At least they get some nutrition.
Also, has your vet said anything about doing sub q fluids? I had to do that
with Lil Bit after I first got her. Se was stressed out, had a ragged coat,
no luster and had lost weight. After a little over 1 - 1/2 weeks, she
responded and has been fine since. Giving her fluids wasn't very hard. The
vet gave me a bag of fluids and needles and told me how to do it. The
heardest part was sticking her with the needle but I remimded myself I was
doing it for her benefit. 
> If she is stressed out, maybe keep her seperate from the others for a
while and give her lots of extra attention and loving to reassure her that
she is loved. Then reintroduce her to the others and see how it goes then.
These ae all tihngs I have done with my pride. Good luck! 
>  czadna sacarawicz  wrote: 
> > 
> > BreAnne is just short of 2 yoa; spayed. She was the playmate of ToriRose
who succumbed to Fe leukemia 2.2010. BreAnne tested + at that time. Isaac
left 2.2011. I gathered everyone else up and moved them into my apartment
from the country when Isaac left. BreAnne was/is an assertive female. Isaac
used to terrorize Scrumptious in a major way. BreAnne and Scrumptious show
little mercy for each other. There are now 6 cats.
> > 
> > Cats are shedding. BreAnne's tail and rear legs look as if she has a bad
case of the fleas. When I flea comb her she continues to lose a lot of fur.
there are no fleas. there is now no luster in her fur. Bowel movements look
okay. 
> > 
> > this past Saturday I continued the follow-up ELISA testing. The 2
originally negative cats are still negative and I vaccinated them. I asked
the vet to look at BreAnne. He commented on her ratty, looking dry coat,
said she had a temperature (but that it may have been due to the long ride
up). I have no explanation about why I didn't ask how high or about starting
her on an antibiotic. We started everyone on Petzlife oral gel (thank you
Natalie) a couple weeks ago. He said her mouth looked good. BreAnne has been
losing weight, not eating well. I follow her around with the food and draw
her attention to it. She won't eat anything contain

Re: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne

2011-05-08 Thread Natalie
Instead of an enema, which cats (nor we) really appreciate, why not try some
fiber?
Have you tried sardines, mackerel, Boston Market chicken (if there's one
near you), smoked ham, thin slices of roast beef - all those things are
great for fussy eating cats (one of those things might just be it).

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of czadna sacarawicz
Sent: Sunday, May 08, 2011 4:42 PM
To: feline leukemia list; Landis McEntee
Subject: [Felvtalk] FW: request for counsel on BreAnne






took BreAnne to vet yesterday.  chem screen all within normal limits.  on
CBC: lymphocytes were high.  vet said she definitely has leukemia.  WBC were
13.2;HCT was 32%; HgB of 9.9; RBC's 6.5  - - all within normal range.
platelets are low; neutrophils are low, and Ly (what is that) are high. he
said her hydration was good.  amoxicillin for 10 days and hope she pulls out
of it.  he said she had a lot of poop inside.  sent me home with an enema.
his diagnosis was alopecia and lymphadenopathy - - in her neck and behind
her knees.  and I know often the growths cannot be felt.
 
you encouraged me to hang with her.  continuing the supplements.  
 
she seems like a lost little soul; eats a few bites and then leaves or
doesn't eat at all.  will eat in privacy but very, very particular.  took
the other cats to the country and have taken her out there a couple days.
she ran up a tree Friday morning.
 
please hang with us.  counsel?



 
> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 01:45:54 -0500
> From: dlg...@windstream.net
> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] request for counsel on BreAnne
> CC: czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com
> 
> Has your vet done a complete blood panel on her? You might be able to find
a clue to her problem. Also complete urine test would help. These will help
identify a problem. Since cats are so good at hiding illness, we sometimes
need to go to extemes. It costs, but may be less in the long runsince you
find out fast what is wrong and needs to be done. 
> As to food, I have found that Gerber's baby food (check first to be sure
there is on onion or garlic in it) is easier to feed and my girls have
responded to that. Also, add hot water to canned food. My girls and boy seem
to prefer the liquid to eating the meat. At least they get some nutrition.
Also, has your vet said anything about doing sub q fluids? I had to do that
with Lil Bit after I first got her. Se was stressed out, had a ragged coat,
no luster and had lost weight. After a little over 1 - 1/2 weeks, she
responded and has been fine since. Giving her fluids wasn't very hard. The
vet gave me a bag of fluids and needles and told me how to do it. The
heardest part was sticking her with the needle but I remimded myself I was
doing it for her benefit. 
> If she is stressed out, maybe keep her seperate from the others for a
while and give her lots of extra attention and loving to reassure her that
she is loved. Then reintroduce her to the others and see how it goes then.
These ae all tihngs I have done with my pride. Good luck! 
>  czadna sacarawicz  wrote: 
> > 
> > BreAnne is just short of 2 yoa; spayed. She was the playmate of ToriRose
who succumbed to Fe leukemia 2.2010. BreAnne tested + at that time. Isaac
left 2.2011. I gathered everyone else up and moved them into my apartment
from the country when Isaac left. BreAnne was/is an assertive female. Isaac
used to terrorize Scrumptious in a major way. BreAnne and Scrumptious show
little mercy for each other. There are now 6 cats.
> > 
> > Cats are shedding. BreAnne's tail and rear legs look as if she has a bad
case of the fleas. When I flea comb her she continues to lose a lot of fur.
there are no fleas. there is now no luster in her fur. Bowel movements look
okay. 
> > 
> > this past Saturday I continued the follow-up ELISA testing. The 2
originally negative cats are still negative and I vaccinated them. I asked
the vet to look at BreAnne. He commented on her ratty, looking dry coat,
said she had a temperature (but that it may have been due to the long ride
up). I have no explanation about why I didn't ask how high or about starting
her on an antibiotic. We started everyone on Petzlife oral gel (thank you
Natalie) a couple weeks ago. He said her mouth looked good. BreAnne has been
losing weight, not eating well. I follow her around with the food and draw
her attention to it. She won't eat anything containing the usual supplements
we use. I have been hydrating some orally and giving some NutriCal. She has
been hanging out under the bathroom sink cabinet in the darkness. 
> > 
> > Easter Sunday I was able to be home all day and let Scrumptious out
(since she is negative). 
> > 
> > I guess writing this is about getting ready maybe to let her go. The cat
she is today in no way resembles her picture of 16 months ago. Stress for
her? Her Grieving the loss of Isaac? She was really, really thin about 9
months ago but cam