Re: [Felvtalk] False positives with snap test?

2010-08-20 Thread Natalie
Have you tried calling other vets in your area?  I don't know where you are;
could ask my vet - but I'm in Greenwich, CT!

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Subject: [Felvtalk] False positives with snap test?

We had two cats test positive for FeLV at our shelter yesterday. Today we
found out that the new snap tests (the ones that test for heartworm also)
have been associated with a higher number of false positives. I'm wondering
how many of you have had experience with this, since one of these cats is a
five year old neutered 20-pounder who's never been around other cats and has
never been outside, and so I was a little surprised at the positive result.
We would like to retest them but can't find any tests of the older type.
Desperation is setting in because if we can't find somewhere else for them
to go, and we have only yesterday's results to rely on, both will go down on
Tuesday. If any of you can give me more info, I'd really appreciate it; I
can then relay that to my director and maybe buy them another week. Thanks!!
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Re: [Felvtalk] False positives with snap test?

2010-08-20 Thread MaryChristine
unlike november 2009, IDEXX held the exclusive patent on at least part of
the SNAP test technology. there were similar tests on the market, but since
i just found out about the patent-expiration, i don't have the details re:
how different the others were. i do know that the IDEXX tests, tho not
without problems, were widely considered (in independent studies) as the
best re: accuracy AND ease of interpretation.

knowing about the patent issue sort of finalized it for me, and speaking
with folks more on the business end of things, their reaction was similar:
losing that exclusivity made it imperative for them to come up with
something to patent as new and different, and all theirs.

just since yesterday, i've found that false HW negatives are turning up in
high numbers too--i guess that has been going on, but since my concern is
FIV/FeLV, i just wasn't hearing about it.

apparently, vets are becoming aware of this, but probably not quickly
enough. please mention it when you see yours; when the vets start talking
amongst themselves, it'll spread through conferences and other
get-togethers.

any time you hear of a shelter or rescue that's got a rise in FIV/FeLV, tell
them to look into the pattern--

i'm very sorry that because of physical issues, i'm not able right now to
contact everyone that i could check with, and then try to talk with IDEXX. i
just cannot.

MC
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On Fri, Aug 20, 2010 at 1:43 PM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Is there more than one manufacturer of tests? If so is this a problem with
 all manufacturers?

 Beth
 Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org

 --- On Thu, 8/19/10, MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com wrote:

 From: MaryChristine twelvehousec...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] False positives with snap test?
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thursday, August 19, 2010, 8:08 PM

 i've been writing about this on the lists since may.

 there has been a huge increase in positive test results for both FIV and
 FeLV ever since the newer tests were introduced, all over the country. so
 many positives, in fact, that those of us who do this rescue thing all day,
 realized that it had to be a problem with the tests somehow.

 it became clear that the problem was the new tests, because also all over
 the country, cats retested with either the western blot or IFA were testing
 negative: all of them, not just the majority as would be expected. i
 actually only know of one cat who has tested positive on an IFA following a
 positive on the new test.

 as most of you know, i usually am adamant about NOT retesting too soon for
 FeLV, as the SNAP and IFA both test for exposure, not infection, so tests
 taken too close together will show the same result. however, with this
 pattern so clearly presenting itself, those of us following this are
 recommending IMMEDIATELY retesting any FeLV positive cats with the older,
 FIV/FeLV only tests.

 again, there's only been one report over a wide network of rescues and
 rescue vets where a positive on the new test has been confirmed. of course
 there will be others, because there ARE positive cats out there--but this
 test isn't the one to trust re: finding them.

 just heard about a vet today who has had false positives with the HW
 component, as well.

 is this confirmed? no--it's too new, and without a lot of talking amongst
 ourselves we wouldn't have seen the pattern; most individual vets aren't
 seeing it because they aren't the one being called daily to take all the
 newly diagnosed positives!

 try to get a hold of some of the old tests--i heard that last month, they
 were on back order (so vets are starting to rethink using the new ones)
 would be my completely biased suggestion.


 MC
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 MaryChristine
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 )
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Re: [Felvtalk] False positives with snap test?

2010-08-19 Thread MaryChristine
i've been writing about this on the lists since may.

there has been a huge increase in positive test results for both FIV and
FeLV ever since the newer tests were introduced, all over the country. so
many positives, in fact, that those of us who do this rescue thing all day,
realized that it had to be a problem with the tests somehow.

it became clear that the problem was the new tests, because also all over
the country, cats retested with either the western blot or IFA were testing
negative: all of them, not just the majority as would be expected. i
actually only know of one cat who has tested positive on an IFA following a
positive on the new test.

as most of you know, i usually am adamant about NOT retesting too soon for
FeLV, as the SNAP and IFA both test for exposure, not infection, so tests
taken too close together will show the same result. however, with this
pattern so clearly presenting itself, those of us following this are
recommending IMMEDIATELY retesting any FeLV positive cats with the older,
FIV/FeLV only tests.

again, there's only been one report over a wide network of rescues and
rescue vets where a positive on the new test has been confirmed. of course
there will be others, because there ARE positive cats out there--but this
test isn't the one to trust re: finding them.

just heard about a vet today who has had false positives with the HW
component, as well.

is this confirmed? no--it's too new, and without a lot of talking amongst
ourselves we wouldn't have seen the pattern; most individual vets aren't
seeing it because they aren't the one being called daily to take all the
newly diagnosed positives!

try to get a hold of some of the old tests--i heard that last month, they
were on back order (so vets are starting to rethink using the new ones)
would be my completely biased suggestion.


MC
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Spay  Neuter Your Neighbors!
Maybe That'll Make The Difference

MaryChristine
Special-Needs Coordinator, Purebred Cat Breed Rescue (www.purebredcats.org)
Member, SCAT (Special-Cat Action Team)
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