Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

2011-05-31 Thread Natalie
I use two large dog crates and place them door to door (tie together with
twist-ems) - one cage is the sleeping and food area, the other cage holds
the litter box.  Very important:  Drill little hole in litter box rim, and
tie to cage with a twit-em; saves a lot of cleaning up from box tipping
over! I also use a water bowl that hands onto the cage - otherwise there'd
be water all over the bedding.  Believe me, I learned all this from
experience and lots of messes to deal with.
I have used several brands of dog crates - best to look online and see the
best prices.  I'll see if I have the info and send it to you. People also
tell me that you can often get them at garage/tag sales.

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Fantastic idea!! Where do I get a double cage?

Thanks!
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Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood


How about, in the future, do as I do when I introduce a new cats to the
group.  I keep the new cat in a double cage for as long as it takes
(anywhere from a few days to two or three weeks), cats sniffle, but new cat
is safe.  Then I open the cage when I see that there's no more hissing.
Cats go inside to join the new cat, new cat walks out, explores (all, after
already knowing the cats).  I always use a sheet to cover the bedroom are
for privacy.

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When
I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two
other
cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away
from
them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a
watchful
eye on him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still

just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others
to
to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed
when
she was about six months old.
So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning.
Oh
yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are

never easy at my house.Jannes






From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the
virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet
your
other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS
just
a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it
comforting since they are such social animals.

I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I
heard
it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for
our
family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy
for
our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I

knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed
away,
she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed
to be
the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks
old. If
they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost
her
last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk).
- Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com;
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood


 From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions.
Just
don't take it as the gospel.

 If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as
being
dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays
dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the
virus
but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at
some
point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it
totally.
If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely
possible
that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made
it
seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause
problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her
blood.
Sometimes stress and other illnesses can

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

2011-05-30 Thread molveywda
From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions.  Just 
don't take it as the gospel.

If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as being 
dormant.  Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays 
dormant.  One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the virus 
but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at some 
point.  So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it totally.  
If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely possible 
that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells.  The reading made it 
seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause 
problems.  However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood.  
Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus.  But, whether it 
causes any problems at that point is a coin toss.  I've heard of cats living 
into their  mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows.  It's so 
hard to predict how each cat's immune system will deal with the virus.

You are very lucky that even though she contracted the virus as a kitten that 
she was able to put it into dormancy.  Many kittens that get it will die young. 
 Maybe she will be one of those that will eventually get rid of the virus 
completely since her immune system was stronger than most kittens.

So all that just to say who the heck knows what will happen.  It's so 
unpredictable.  You had the IFA test done too didn't you? 

As far as the interferon goes, I have a friend who believes in it and gives it 
to her FIV and FeLV kitties every day and has for years.  She gets it from a 
pharmacy that compounds it and puts it into a chicken flavored liquid that she 
gives to them.  I don't know if you need it or not if your cat has put the 
virus into dormancy but I wouldn't think it would hurt her to take it.  I think 
it is just some kind of super charged immune system booster.  Not sure though.

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From: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, May 28, 2011 8:29 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

My 1 year kitten was diagnosed with FeLV back in Oct.  She has never tested 
positive with either blood test, only with bone marrow aspiration after she got 
real sick at 20 weeks of age.  As of now she is  showing no signs of FeLV, just 
a low normal blood test. To look at her you would and the way she plays you 
would not even know she had FeLV. 

Questions are: Can a cat clear FeLV from the bone marrow?  Could FeLV just stay 
in the bone marrow and never go to her blood? Can a cat expect to live a long 
life as long as the FeLV never moves from the bone marrow?  If she stays well 
should we think about getting another bone marrow aspiration since the FeLV 
never been in the blood?

Right now she on interferon 1 week on 1 week off.  She off all other drug as 
she doing so well.  Vet does not want to take her off the interferon ever.  

Thank you,
Sharon
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

2011-05-30 Thread Lynda Wilson
I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the 
virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet 
your other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This 
IS just a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find 
it comforting since they are such social animals.


I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I 
heard it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy 
for our family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund 
puppy for our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes 
again. Then I knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and 
when he passed away, she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one 
of those that needed to be the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when 
I saved her at 5 weeks old.  If they only came with instructions!! (by the 
way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost her last June to a stroke that left her 
unable to walk).
- Original Message - 
From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com; 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood


From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. 
Just don't take it as the gospel.


If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as 
being dormant.  Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it 
stays dormant.  One book I read did say that many times cats that contract 
the virus but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the 
virus at some point.  So it is possible that your kitty could one day be 
free of it totally.  If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus 
it is definitely possible that it never gets into her blood or white blood 
cells.  The reading made it seem like as long as the virus stays dormant 
then it should never cause problems.  However, it can turn viremic which 
means it gets into her blood.  Sometimes stress and other illnesses can 
activate the virus.  But, whether it causes any problems at that point is 
a coin toss.  I've heard of cats living into their  mid to late teens even 
with the active virus so who knows.  It's so hard to predict how each 
cat's immune system will deal with the

virus.

You are very lucky that even though she contracted the virus as a kitten 
that she was able to put it into dormancy.  Many kittens that get it will 
die young.  Maybe she will be one of those that will eventually get rid of 
the virus completely since her immune system was stronger than most 
kittens.


So all that just to say who the heck knows what will happen.  It's so 
unpredictable.  You had the IFA test done too didn't you?


As far as the interferon goes, I have a friend who believes in it and 
gives it to her FIV and FeLV kitties every day and has for years.  She 
gets it from a pharmacy that compounds it and puts it into a chicken 
flavored liquid that she gives to them.  I don't know if you need it or 
not if your cat has put the virus into dormancy but I wouldn't think it 
would hurt her to take it.  I think it is just some kind of super charged 
immune system booster.  Not sure though.


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From: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com
Date: Sat, May 28, 2011 8:29 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

My 1 year kitten was diagnosed with FeLV back in Oct.  She has never 
tested positive with either blood test, only with bone marrow aspiration 
after she got real sick at 20 weeks of age.  As of now she is  showing no 
signs of FeLV, just a low normal blood test. To look at her you would and 
the way she plays you would not even know she had FeLV.


Questions are: Can a cat clear FeLV from the bone marrow?  Could FeLV just 
stay in the bone marrow and never go to her blood? Can a cat expect to 
live a long life as long as the FeLV never moves from the bone marrow?  If 
she stays well should we think about getting another bone marrow 
aspiration since the FeLV never been in the blood?


Right now she on interferon 1 week on 1 week off.  She off all other drug 
as she doing so well.  Vet does not want to take her off the interferon 
ever.


Thank you,
Sharon
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

2011-05-30 Thread Jannes Taylor
I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When 
I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two 
other 
cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away from 
them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a 
watchful 
eye on  him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still 
just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others to 
to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed when 
she was about six months old. 
So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning. Oh 
yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are 
never easy at my house.Jannes 






From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the 
virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet your 
other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS just 
a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it 
comforting since they are such social animals.

I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I 
heard 
it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for our 
family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy for 
our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I 
knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed 
away, 
she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed to 
be 
the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks old.  
If 
they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost 
her 
last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk).
- Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood


 From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. Just 
don't take it as the gospel.
 
 If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as 
 being 
dormant.  Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays 
dormant.  One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the virus 
but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at some 
point.  So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it 
totally.  
If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely 
possible 
that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells.  The reading made it 
seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause 
problems.  However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood.  
Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus.  But, whether it 
causes any problems at that point is a coin toss.  I've heard of cats living 
into their  mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows.  It's 
so 
hard to predict how each cat's immune system will deal with the
 virus.
 
 You are very lucky that even though she contracted the virus as a kitten that 
she was able to put it into dormancy.  Many kittens that get it will die 
young.  
Maybe she will be one of those that will eventually get rid of the virus 
completely since her immune system was stronger than most kittens.
 
 So all that just to say who the heck knows what will happen.  It's so 
unpredictable.  You had the IFA test done too didn't you?
 
 As far as the interferon goes, I have a friend who believes in it and gives 
 it 
to her FIV and FeLV kitties every day and has for years.  She gets it from a 
pharmacy that compounds it and puts it into a chicken flavored liquid that she 
gives to them.  I don't know if you need it or not if your cat has put the 
virus 
into dormancy but I wouldn't think it would hurt her to take it.  I think it 
is 
just some kind of super charged immune system booster.  Not sure though.
 
 sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC
 
 - Reply message -
 From: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, May 28, 2011 8:29 am
 Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
 My 1 year kitten was diagnosed with FeLV back in Oct.  She has never tested 
positive with either blood test, only with bone marrow aspiration after she 
got 
real sick at 20 weeks of age.  As of now she is  showing no signs of FeLV, 
just 
a low normal blood test. To look at her you would and the way she plays you 
would not even know she had FeLV.
 
 Questions are: Can a cat clear FeLV from the bone marrow?  Could FeLV just 
 stay

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

2011-05-30 Thread Natalie
How about, in the future, do as I do when I introduce a new cats to the
group.  I keep the new cat in a double cage for as long as it takes
(anywhere from a few days to two or three weeks), cats sniffle, but new cat
is safe.  Then I open the cage when I see that there's no more hissing.
Cats go inside to join the new cat, new cat walks out, explores (all, after
already knowing the cats).  I always use a sheet to cover the bedroom are
for privacy.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When 
I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two
other 
cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away
from 
them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a
watchful 
eye on  him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still

just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others
to 
to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed
when 
she was about six months old. 
So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning.
Oh 
yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are

never easy at my house.Jannes 






From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the 
virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet
your 
other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS
just 
a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it 
comforting since they are such social animals.

I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I
heard 
it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for
our 
family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy
for 
our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I

knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed
away, 
she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed
to be 
the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks
old.  If 
they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost
her 
last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk).
- Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com;
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood


 From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions.
Just 
don't take it as the gospel.
 
 If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as
being 
dormant.  Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays 
dormant.  One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the
virus 
but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at
some 
point.  So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it
totally.  
If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely
possible 
that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells.  The reading made
it 
seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause 
problems.  However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her
blood.  
Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus.  But, whether
it 
causes any problems at that point is a coin toss.  I've heard of cats
living 
into their  mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows. 
It's so 
hard to predict how each cat's immune system will deal with the
 virus.
 
 You are very lucky that even though she contracted the virus as a kitten
that 
she was able to put it into dormancy.  Many kittens that get it will die
young.  
Maybe she will be one of those that will eventually get rid of the virus 
completely since her immune system was stronger than most kittens.
 
 So all that just to say who the heck knows what will happen.  It's so 
unpredictable.  You had the IFA test done too didn't you?
 
 As far as the interferon goes, I have a friend who believes in it and
gives it 
to her FIV and FeLV kitties every day and has for years.  She gets it from
a 
pharmacy that compounds it and puts it into a chicken flavored liquid that
she 
gives to them.  I don't know if you need it or not if your cat has put the
virus 
into dormancy but I wouldn't think it would hurt her to take it.  I think
it is 
just some kind of super charged immune system

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

2011-05-30 Thread dlgegg
It seems that Walmart attracts such people.  Someone should have made them sit 
in the car and see how they felt!


 czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 I too want to understand.
  
 what has become of the Siamese for whom a rescue was being urgently asked?
  
 It has been another over the top day - - a whimpering puppy left too long in 
 a hot car (2 windows down 3) at Wal-Mart.  store made announcement over PA.  
 no one came.  called 911.  we prayed hard and long arms were able to pull the 
 puppy out. shorter arms took the puppy inside for water. owners (2 adult men 
 and 1 adult woman) said they ignored the annoucment about it because they 
 were standing in line.  long arms asked if they wanted to speak with Animal 
 Control.  no.  owners drove away.  Animal Control has puppy.  hope he makes 
 it.
 
 
 m
 
 
  
  From: sharon.annfa...@gmail.com
  Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 08:29:10 -0400
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood
  
  My 1 year kitten was diagnosed with FeLV back in Oct. She has never tested 
  positive with either blood test, only with bone marrow aspiration after she 
  got real sick at 20 weeks of age. As of now she is showing no signs of 
  FeLV, just a low normal blood test. To look at her you would and the way 
  she plays you would not even know she had FeLV. 
  
  Questions are: Can a cat clear FeLV from the bone marrow? Could FeLV just 
  stay in the bone marrow and never go to her blood? Can a cat expect to live 
  a long life as long as the FeLV never moves from the bone marrow? If she 
  stays well should we think about getting another bone marrow aspiration 
  since the FeLV never been in the blood?
  
  Right now she on interferon 1 week on 1 week off. She off all other drug as 
  she doing so well. Vet does not want to take her off the interferon ever. 
  
  Thank you,
  Sharon
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

2011-05-30 Thread Lynda Wilson

Hi Jannes!

I've had just the opposite problem. All my cats have adapted well. I just 
got a 4 mos old kitten and he's taking his time adjusting. I'm giving him 
time, room and patience for him to adjust. I will admit that I'm not used to 
this at all.  I've considered myself very lucky now considering all the cats 
I have had all my life and they all got along within a few days.


Good luck to you and I wish you the best. They are lucky to have you, you're 
a good momma for them :0)


Lynda
- Original Message - 
From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood


I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When
I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two 
other
cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away 
from
them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a 
watchful

eye on him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still
just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others 
to
to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed 
when

she was about six months old.
So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning. 
Oh

yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are
never easy at my house.Jannes






From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the
virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet 
your
other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS 
just

a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it
comforting since they are such social animals.

I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I 
heard
it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for 
our
family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy 
for

our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I
knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed 
away,
she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed 
to be
the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks old. 
If
they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost 
her

last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk).
- Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com; 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood


From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. 
Just

don't take it as the gospel.

If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as 
being

dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays
dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the 
virus
but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at 
some
point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it 
totally.
If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely 
possible

that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made it
seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause
problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood.
Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus. But, whether 
it

causes any problems at that point is a coin toss. I've heard of cats living
into their mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows. It's 
so

hard to predict how each cat's immune system will deal with the
virus.

You are very lucky that even though she contracted the virus as a kitten 
that
she was able to put it into dormancy. Many kittens that get it will die 
young.

Maybe she will be one of those that will eventually get rid of the virus
completely since her immune system was stronger than most kittens.

So all that just to say who the heck knows what will happen. It's so
unpredictable. You had the IFA test done too didn't you?

As far as the interferon goes, I have a friend who believes in it and 
gives it

to her FIV and FeLV kitties every day and has for years. She gets it from a
pharmacy that compounds it and puts it into a chicken flavored liquid that 
she
gives to them. I don't know if you need it or not if your cat has put the 
virus
into dormancy but I wouldn't think it would hurt her to take it. I think it 
is

just some kind of super charged immune system booster. Not sure though.

sent from my ATT Smartphone

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

2011-05-30 Thread Lynda Wilson

Fantastic idea!! Where do I get a double cage?

Thanks!
- Original Message - 
From: Natalie at...@optonline.net

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood


How about, in the future, do as I do when I introduce a new cats to the
group.  I keep the new cat in a double cage for as long as it takes
(anywhere from a few days to two or three weeks), cats sniffle, but new cat
is safe.  Then I open the cage when I see that there's no more hissing.
Cats go inside to join the new cat, new cat walks out, explores (all, after
already knowing the cats).  I always use a sheet to cover the bedroom are
for privacy.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 1:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When
I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two
other
cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away
from
them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a
watchful
eye on him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still

just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others
to
to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed
when
she was about six months old.
So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning.
Oh
yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are

never easy at my house.Jannes






From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the
virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet
your
other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS
just
a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it
comforting since they are such social animals.

I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I
heard
it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for
our
family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy
for
our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I

knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed
away,
she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed
to be
the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks
old. If
they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost
her
last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk).
- Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com;
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood



From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions.

Just

don't take it as the gospel.

If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as

being

dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays
dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the

virus

but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at

some

point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it

totally.

If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely

possible

that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made

it

seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause
problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her

blood.

Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus. But, whether

it

causes any problems at that point is a coin toss. I've heard of cats

living

into their mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows.

It's so

hard to predict how each cat's immune system will deal with the
virus.

You are very lucky that even though she contracted the virus as a kitten

that

she was able to put it into dormancy. Many kittens that get it will die

young.

Maybe she will be one of those that will eventually get rid of the virus
completely since her immune system was stronger than most kittens.

So all that just to say who the heck knows what will happen. It's so
unpredictable. You had the IFA test done too didn't you?

As far as the interferon goes, I have a friend who believes in it and

gives it

to her FIV and FeLV kitties every day and has for years. She gets it from

a

pharmacy that compounds it and puts it into a chicken flavored liquid that

she

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

2011-05-30 Thread Jannes Taylor
Thank you Lynda. I brought Amber upstairs three times today and held on to her. 
She was the only one doing the hissing and growling. I will keep you posted. 
LOl. I really can't believe the other three were not doing the same thing. I am 
proud of them!
 Jannes 





From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 7:40:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

Hi Jannes!

I've had just the opposite problem. All my cats have adapted well. I just got a 
4 mos old kitten and he's taking his time adjusting. I'm giving him time, room 
and patience for him to adjust. I will admit that I'm not used to this at all.  
I've considered myself very lucky now considering all the cats I have had all 
my 
life and they all got along within a few days.

Good luck to you and I wish you the best. They are lucky to have you, you're a 
good momma for them :0)

Lynda
- Original Message - From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood


I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When
I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two other
cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away from
them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a watchful
eye on him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still
just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others to
to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed when
she was about six months old.
So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning. Oh
yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are
never easy at my house.Jannes






From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the
virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet your
other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS just
a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it
comforting since they are such social animals.

I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I heard
it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for our
family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy for
our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I
knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed away,
she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed to be
the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks old. If
they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost her
last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk).
- Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood


 From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. Just
 don't take it as the gospel.
 
 If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as being
 dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays
 dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the virus
 but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at some
 point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it totally.
 If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely 
possible
 that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made it
 seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause
 problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood.
 Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus. But, whether it
 causes any problems at that point is a coin toss. I've heard of cats living
 into their mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows. It's so
 hard to predict how each cat's immune system will deal with the
 virus.
 
 You are very lucky that even though she contracted the virus as a kitten that
 she was able to put it into dormancy. Many kittens that get it will die young.
 Maybe she will be one of those that will eventually get rid of the virus
 completely since her immune system was stronger than most kittens.
 
 So all that just to say who the heck knows what will happen. It's so
 unpredictable. You had the IFA test done too didn't you?
 
 As far as the interferon goes, I have

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

2011-05-30 Thread Lynda Wilson
Exactly, make the people sit in a baking car with the exact circumstances. 
What scum we have on this earth!
- Original Message - 
From: dlg...@windstream.net

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood


It seems that Walmart attracts such people.  Someone should have made them 
sit in the car and see how they felt!



 czadna sacarawicz czadnasacaraw...@hotmail.com wrote:


I too want to understand.

what has become of the Siamese for whom a rescue was being urgently 
asked?


It has been another over the top day - - a whimpering puppy left too long 
in a hot car (2 windows down 3) at Wal-Mart.  store made announcement 
over PA.  no one came.  called 911.  we prayed hard and long arms were 
able to pull the puppy out. shorter arms took the puppy inside for water. 
owners (2 adult men and 1 adult woman) said they ignored the annoucment 
about it because they were standing in line.  long arms asked if they 
wanted to speak with Animal Control.  no.  owners drove away.  Animal 
Control has puppy.  hope he makes it.



m



 From: sharon.annfa...@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 08:29:10 -0400
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

 My 1 year kitten was diagnosed with FeLV back in Oct. She has never 
 tested positive with either blood test, only with bone marrow 
 aspiration after she got real sick at 20 weeks of age. As of now she is 
 showing no signs of FeLV, just a low normal blood test. To look at her 
 you would and the way she plays you would not even know she had FeLV.


 Questions are: Can a cat clear FeLV from the bone marrow? Could FeLV 
 just stay in the bone marrow and never go to her blood? Can a cat 
 expect to live a long life as long as the FeLV never moves from the 
 bone marrow? If she stays well should we think about getting another 
 bone marrow aspiration since the FeLV never been in the blood?


 Right now she on interferon 1 week on 1 week off. She off all other 
 drug as she doing so well. Vet does not want to take her off the 
 interferon ever.


 Thank you,
 Sharon
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Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

2011-05-30 Thread Lynda Wilson
Yay! Sounds like you got a great bunch. I bet she will fit right in. You 
will then have an even amount. Don't they say that three is a crowd in the 
first place, lol?!  She's just testing the water. She'll come around and 
will be hangin' with the group soon.


Keep in touch :0)

Lynda
- Original Message - 
From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 8:27 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood


Thank you Lynda. I brought Amber upstairs three times today and held on to 
her.

She was the only one doing the hissing and growling. I will keep you posted.
LOl. I really can't believe the other three were not doing the same thing. I 
am

proud of them!
Jannes





From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 7:40:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

Hi Jannes!

I've had just the opposite problem. All my cats have adapted well. I just 
got a
4 mos old kitten and he's taking his time adjusting. I'm giving him time, 
room
and patience for him to adjust. I will admit that I'm not used to this at 
all.
I've considered myself very lucky now considering all the cats I have had 
all my

life and they all got along within a few days.

Good luck to you and I wish you the best. They are lucky to have you, you're 
a

good momma for them :0)

Lynda
- Original Message - From: Jannes Taylor jannestay...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 12:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood


I am sure it is stressful for her to come upstairs and see three cats. When
I rescued my last kitty before Amber, he was only two weeks old and my two 
other
cats HATED him. I was afraid they would try to kill him. I kept him away 
from
them for a couple of months. I only brought him out when I could keep a 
watchful

eye on him. Now he and one of the cats are big buddies. The other cat still
just tolerates him. She is very moody. She just growls and tells the others 
to
to get out of her way. She has been like this ever since I had her spayed 
when

she was about six months old.
So, I have not had any experience with cats being social from the beginning. 
Oh

yes, and when I got my second cat the first one hated her...LOL...things are
never easy at my house.Jannes






From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, May 30, 2011 9:51:16 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

I agree with this comment. I will also add that since stress can induce the
virus out of dormancy, do you think it would be stressful to her to meet 
your
other kitties? It's hard to determine exactly what type of stress. This IS 
just

a thought. I would think that most cats like to be together and find it
comforting since they are such social animals.

I once had a tortie (tortoise shell) cat and she stressed very easily. I 
heard
it was her breed. She went into diabetes when I got a dachshund puppy for 
our
family. She later went into remission. Then I got another dachshund puppy 
for

our other dachshund as a playmate. She then went into diabetes again. Then I
knew it was all stress related. We did have another cat and when he passed 
away,
she was the happiest cat I had ever seen. She was one of those that needed 
to be
the only cat. Too bad I did not know that when I saved her at 5 weeks old. 
If
they only came with instructions!! (by the way, I had her 17 1/2 yrs. I lost 
her

last June to a stroke that left her unable to walk).
- Original Message - From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: sharon Fazio sharon.annfa...@gmail.com; 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

Sent: Monday, May 30, 2011 6:58 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood


From my reading and limited understanding I will answer your questions. 
Just

don't take it as the gospel.

If the virus is in the bone marrow but not the blood it's referred to as 
being

dormant. Your kitty cannot pass it to other kitties as long as it stays
dormant. One book I read did say that many times cats that contract the 
virus
but put it into dormancy will actually be able to extinguish the virus at 
some
point. So it is possible that your kitty could one day be free of it 
totally.

If she is not able to completely extinguish the virus it is definitely

possible
that it never gets into her blood or white blood cells. The reading made 
it

seem like as long as the virus stays dormant then it should never cause
problems. However, it can turn viremic which means it gets into her blood.
Sometimes stress and other illnesses can activate the virus. But, whether 
it
causes any problems at that point is a coin toss. I've heard of cats 
living
into their mid to late teens even with the active virus so who knows. It's 
so

hard to predict how each cat's immune system

Re: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood

2011-05-29 Thread czadna sacarawicz

I too want to understand.
 
what has become of the Siamese for whom a rescue was being urgently asked?
 
It has been another over the top day - - a whimpering puppy left too long in a 
hot car (2 windows down 3) at Wal-Mart.  store made announcement over PA.  no 
one came.  called 911.  we prayed hard and long arms were able to pull the 
puppy out. shorter arms took the puppy inside for water. owners (2 adult men 
and 1 adult woman) said they ignored the annoucment about it because they were 
standing in line.  long arms asked if they wanted to speak with Animal Control. 
 no.  owners drove away.  Animal Control has puppy.  hope he makes it.


m


 
 From: sharon.annfa...@gmail.com
 Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 08:29:10 -0400
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] FeLV in Bone Marrow not in Blood
 
 My 1 year kitten was diagnosed with FeLV back in Oct. She has never tested 
 positive with either blood test, only with bone marrow aspiration after she 
 got real sick at 20 weeks of age. As of now she is showing no signs of FeLV, 
 just a low normal blood test. To look at her you would and the way she plays 
 you would not even know she had FeLV. 
 
 Questions are: Can a cat clear FeLV from the bone marrow? Could FeLV just 
 stay in the bone marrow and never go to her blood? Can a cat expect to live a 
 long life as long as the FeLV never moves from the bone marrow? If she stays 
 well should we think about getting another bone marrow aspiration since the 
 FeLV never been in the blood?
 
 Right now she on interferon 1 week on 1 week off. She off all other drug as 
 she doing so well. Vet does not want to take her off the interferon ever. 
 
 Thank you,
 Sharon
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