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Thanks for your help and for your efforts in helping those who have FeLV positvie kitties. Claire Davidson -----Original Message----- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 1:00 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Felvtalk Digest, Vol 12, Issue 7 Send Felvtalk mailing list submissions to felvtalk@felineleukemia.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to felvtalk-requ...@felineleukemia.org You can reach the person managing the list at felvtalk-ow...@felineleukemia.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of Felvtalk digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Transmittal via fleas (Kathy) 2. Re: Transmittal via fleas (Natalie) 3. Re: Transmittal via fleas (Lee Evans) 4. Re: Transmittal via fleas (Lee Evans) 5. Re: Transmittal via fleas (Beth) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:05:58 -0400 From: Kathy <klovel...@gmail.com> To: <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas Message-ID: <cc2c3b06.3bf30%klovel...@gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" I'm new to this group & to FeLV. 2 kittens showed up at my house about a 3 weeks ago, I took them inside, bathed good & put in separate room away from my 2 other cats. I just found out that the mother cat has FeLV so have been told that the kittens probably do as well. I found a few fleas on one of the kittens last night so immediately bathed both of them again & vacuumed the room really good. I've been so careful to keep them away from my other 2 cats & now am a bit concerned that a few fleas could transmit if they got on my cats. Any advice that can be offered is appreciate. I researched briefly online & saw that it was a possibility so am concerned. I also treated the kittens (a little over 8 weeks) w/a flea spot treatment about an hour after their bath???..it was specifically for any kitten or cat 8 weeks & older. Was a milder treatment I could tell b/c it doesn't kill flea eggs. K- Kathy Wood ?Until one has loved an animal a part of one's soul remains unawakened.? Anatole France 1844-1924 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments /20120718/4cc2d6db/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 10:24:42 -0400 From: Natalie <at...@optonline.net> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas Message-ID: <06e801cd64f1$190757e0$4b1607a0$@net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hi, Kathy, Welcome - I'm sure that those with more experience with FeLV will respond in more detail. My exposure to FeLV has been limited - only 1 kitten years ago, and 2 adult cats very recently. I'd be surprised if the kittens of a FeLV positive mother would be FeLV negative. I don't know about fleas transmitting FeLV to other cats; it could be like the mistaken idea years ago of HIV being transmitted by mosquitoes. In addition to the flea treatment, get a flea comb, fill a small bowl with water and add a few drops of dishwashing liquid or other soap. When you comb kittens or your cats, dip comb into the water, and with your fingers remove any fur with fleas under the water. Fleas will drown because the soap removes their waxy covering, otherwise they would float on top of the water and jump off. When kittens are too small, I always use this method, and spot-check all the other cats this way. Buy a flea collar, cut off a small piece activate by pulling it, and place it inside your vacuum OR immediately dispose of the vacuum bag or empty the vacuum if it's the bag-less type. Natalie =^..^= From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas I'm new to this group & to FeLV. 2 kittens showed up at my house about a 3 weeks ago, I took them inside, bathed good & put in separate room away from my 2 other cats. I just found out that the mother cat has FeLV so have been told that the kittens probably do as well. I found a few fleas on one of the kittens last night so immediately bathed both of them again & vacuumed the room really good. I've been so careful to keep them away from my other 2 cats & now am a bit concerned that a few fleas could transmit if they got on my cats. Any advice that can be offered is appreciate. I researched briefly online & saw that it was a possibility so am concerned. I also treated the kittens (a little over 8 weeks) w/a flea spot treatment about an hour after their bath.....it was specifically for any kitten or cat 8 weeks & older. Was a milder treatment I could tell b/c it doesn't kill flea eggs. K- Kathy Wood "Until one has loved an animal a part of one's soul remains unawakened." Anatole France 1844-1924 -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments /20120718/5e2f9105/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:42:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Lee Evans <moonsiste...@yahoo.com> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas Message-ID: <1342622574.62836.yahoomail...@web120005.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I would be very surprised if fleas could transmit FeLv.? If that were true, most of my cats would have it.? I have had lots of experience with leukemia cats.? My last two were living in a room separate from the regular group of negative cats but the room was adjacent to the negative group and fleas are notorious for their ability to move from place to place on shoes, under doors, on clothes and just plain hopping around until they reach a nice warm cat.? No one in the regular room contracted FeLv.? I have even had two FeLv+ cats living with a group of FeLv- cats some years ago and no one in the healthy group contracted leukemia.? The two cats who had it were old and in addition to kidney failure, they went symptomatic with leukemia.? They had tested negative most of their lives so I assume the disease was hiding in the bone marrow and surfaced when their general health broke down from age.? I'm not sure that asking a veterinarian would clarify this issue for you since I have come across vets who were so ignorant that they thought FeLv and FIV in cats could be transmitted to humans.? When it comes to cats, we seem to still be living in the Dark Ages of witch hunts and superstition. ? Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ________________________________ From: Natalie <at...@optonline.net> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:24 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas Hi, Kathy, Welcome ? I?m sure that those with more experience with FeLV will respond in more detail. My exposure to FeLV has been limited ? only 1 kitten years ago, and 2 adult cats very recently. I?d be surprised if the kittens of a FeLV positive mother would be FeLV negative. I don?t know about fleas transmitting FeLV to other cats; it could be like the mistaken idea years ago of HIV being transmitted by mosquitoes. In addition to the flea treatment, get a flea comb, fill a small bowl with water and add a few drops of dishwashing liquid or other soap.? When you comb kittens or your cats, dip comb into the water, and with your fingers remove any fur with fleas under the water.? Fleas will drown because the soap removes their waxy covering, otherwise they would float on top of the water and jump off. When kittens are too small, I always use this method, and spot-check all the other cats this way.? Buy a flea collar, cut off a small piece activate by pulling it, and place it inside your vacuum OR immediately dispose of the vacuum bag or empty the vacuum if it?s the bag-less type. Natalie =^..^= From:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kathy Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 10:06 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas ? I'm new to this group & to FeLV. ?2 kittens showed up at my house about a 3 weeks ago, I took them inside, bathed good & put in separate room away from my 2 other cats. ?I just found out that the mother cat has FeLV so have been told that the kittens probably do as well. ?I found a few fleas on one of the kittens last night so immediately bathed both of them again & vacuumed the room really good. ?I've been so careful to keep them away from my other 2 cats & now am a bit concerned that a few fleas could transmit if they got on my cats. ?Any advice that can be offered is appreciate. ?I researched briefly online & saw that it was a possibility so am concerned. ?I also treated the kittens (a little over 8 weeks) w/a flea spot treatment about an hour after their bath???..it was specifically for any kitten or cat 8 weeks & older. ?Was a milder treatment I could tell b/c it doesn't kill flea eggs. K- Kathy Wood ?Until one has loved an animal a part of one's soul remains unawakened.?? Anatole France 1844-1924? _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments /20120718/048ebe8c/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 07:50:54 -0700 (PDT) From: Lee Evans <moonsiste...@yahoo.com> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas Message-ID: <1342623054.99332.yahoomail...@web120001.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" It's not a certainty that the kittens would be positive for FeLv if the mom was. You need to test each kitten separately when they are about 12 weeks old.? Even if they test positive, don't have them killed.? FeLv can sometimes be overcome in kittens and in cats.? I have a cat who was positive but turned negative after 2 months quarantined in a room.? That was about 7 years ago.? He is now with my regulars and still healthy.? This has happened to another cat recently although he was positive for FIV.? With FIV they rarely turn after they are adults but kittens do turn negative for FIV because they really only have the antibodies left over from the birth mom.? Once they are on their own and making their own blood, they turn negative for FIV.? However, FeLv is tricky and sometimes does not turn in kittens who are born to a positive mom.? As for fleas, I doubt it.? Fleas can transmit flea tape worm and possibly toxoplasmosis but I have never been told by a vet that FeLv can be transmitted by fleas. ? Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors too! ________________________________ From: Kathy <klovel...@gmail.com> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 9:05 AM Subject: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas I'm new to this group & to FeLV. ?2 kittens showed up at my house about a 3 weeks ago, I took them inside, bathed good & put in separate room away from my 2 other cats. ?I just found out that the mother cat has FeLV so have been told that the kittens probably do as well. ?I found a few fleas on one of the kittens last night so immediately bathed both of them again & vacuumed the room really good. ?I've been so careful to keep them away from my other 2 cats & now am a bit concerned that a few fleas could transmit if they got on my cats. ?Any advice that can be offered is appreciate. ?I researched briefly online & saw that it was a possibility so am concerned. ?I also treated the kittens (a little over 8 weeks) w/a flea spot treatment about an hour after their bath???..it was specifically for any kitten or cat 8 weeks & older. ?Was a milder treatment I could tell b/c it doesn't kill flea eggs. K- Kathy Wood ?Until one has loved an animal a part of one's soul remains unawakened.?? Anatole France 1844-1924? _______________________________________________ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://felineleukemia.org/pipermail/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org/attachments /20120718/baee2864/attachment-0001.html> ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Wed, 18 Jul 2012 08:59:24 -0700 (PDT) From: Beth <create_me_...@yahoo.com> To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <felvtalk@felineleukemia.org> Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas Message-ID: <1342627164.24526.yahoomail...@web121605.mail.ne1.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" I wouldn't think it could be transmitted that way. It's transmitted in the saliva. ? Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!?www.Furkids.org ? ________________________________ From: Kathy <klovel...@gmail.com> To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Wednesday, July 18, 2012 2:05 PM Subject: [Felvtalk] Transmittal via fleas I'm new to this group & to FeLV. ?2 kittens showed up at my house about a 3 weeks ago, I took them inside, bathed good & put in separate room away from my 2 other cats. ?I just found out that the mother cat has FeLV so have been told that the kittens probably do as well. ?I found a few fleas on one of the kittens last night so immediately bathed both of them again & vacuumed the room really good. ?I've been so careful to keep them away from my other 2 cats & now am a bit concerned that a few fleas could transmit if they got on my cats. ?Any advice that can be offered is appreciate. ?I researched briefly online & saw that it was a possibility so am concerned. ?I also treated the kittens (a little over 8 weeks) w/a flea spot treatment about an hour after their bath???..it was specifically for any kitten or cat 8 weeks & older. ?Was a milder treatment I could tell b/c it doesn't kill flea eggs. 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