Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-09 Thread dlgegg
Nematodes - do you mean like I get for japanese beetles in my yard?  If not, 
what is name and where do I get them?


 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 I actually use Frontline on incoming cats with fleas..just that once, then
 it's the friendly little nematodes!
 
  
 
  
 
 From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
 Evans
 Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 4:53 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 
  
 
 I don't believe that the doses would be different because you break the big
 one into 7 doses (as in Frontline Plus).  I was afraid to do this at first
 because I thought it might somehow be different than the single doses but if
 you think about it, there's no sediment at the bottom of the tube.  It's all
 uniformly mixed so no possibility of different strengths from breaking up
 the tube into smaller doses. What you are paying for in the standard cat
 dose is the packaging.  You are paying for 3 plastic tubes instead of one
 larger plastic tube.  I don't feel that plastic tubes are so great that  I
 want to pay $15 extra above the cost of the ingredients.  I wish more stuff
 was on a bring your own bottle basis.  Some stuff in the grocery store is
 sold that way - peanut butter, honey, some cosmetics.  Everything else is
 over-packaged so that when you finish your juice or your ketchup or
 whatever, you either toss the package, bottle  into the landfill or you have
 to lug it to recycle if you don't live in a city with curbside pick-up.  I
 have been breaking Frontline Plus and Revolution into cat size doses for
 years.  Haven't tried Advantage though because it goes by weight and that's
 a little more work intensive, since I have several cats who can't fit
 through the doorway and several more who could slip through the keyhole.
 
  
 
  
 
 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
 neighbors too!
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 5:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 
 
 On 10-05, Edna Taylor wrote:
 My vet frowns on using any dog flea product on cats because she said
 even though it is the same ingredients, the portions of the same
 ingredients may be different. 
 
 The vet will make much more money if you give individual doses. I cannot do
 this as I have 24 rescued cats at this time, and at $15. a pop, every month,
 I'd be broke in no time, so I buy flea stuff from CAnada or overseas and
 dose down from the big dog size.  However, dosing down from the big dog
 size MUST be carefully figured out so the cats are not hurt.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-09 Thread Joslin Potter
I've seen them for sale on e-bay, the nematodes that is.

 


 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2012 11:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
  
Nematodes - do you mean like I get for japanese beetles in my yard?  If not, 
what is name and where do I get them?


 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 I actually use Frontline on incoming cats with fleas..just that once, then
 it's the friendly little nematodes!
 
  
 
  
 
 From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
 Evans
 Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 4:53 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 
  
 
 I don't believe that the doses would be different because you break the big
 one into 7 doses (as in Frontline Plus).  I was afraid to do this at first
 because I thought it might somehow be different than the single doses but if
 you think about it, there's no sediment at the bottom of the tube.  It's all
 uniformly mixed so no possibility of different strengths from breaking up
 the tube into smaller doses. What you are paying for in the standard cat
 dose is the packaging.  You are paying for 3 plastic tubes instead of one
 larger plastic tube.  I don't feel that plastic tubes are so great that  I
 want to pay $15 extra above the cost of the ingredients.  I wish more stuff
 was on a bring your own bottle basis.  Some stuff in the grocery store is
 sold that way - peanut butter, honey, some cosmetics.  Everything else is
 over-packaged so that when you finish your juice or your ketchup or
 whatever, you either toss the package, bottle  into the landfill or you have
 to lug it to recycle if you don't live in a city with curbside pick-up.  I
 have been breaking Frontline Plus and Revolution into cat size doses for
 years.  Haven't tried Advantage though because it goes by weight and that's
 a little more work intensive, since I have several cats who can't fit
 through the doorway and several more who could slip through the keyhole.
 
  
 
  
 
 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
 neighbors too!
 
  
 
   _  
 
 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 5:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 
 
 On 10-05, Edna Taylor wrote:
     My vet frowns on using any dog flea product on cats because she said
     even though it is the same ingredients, the portions of the same
     ingredients may be different. 
 
 The vet will make much more money if you give individual doses. I cannot do
 this as I have 24 rescued cats at this time, and at $15. a pop, every month,
 I'd be broke in no time, so I buy flea stuff from CAnada or overseas and
 dose down from the big dog size.  However, dosing down from the big dog
 size MUST be carefully figured out so the cats are not hurt.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-09 Thread Natalie
I posted it on Monday;
Fleabusters
They sell nematodes for spraying outside, and also interior products that
are safer than the toxic chemicals!
http://www.fleabuster.com/Products/Biobusters/nematodes.html 
Natalie



-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2012 11:58 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

Nematodes - do you mean like I get for japanese beetles in my yard?  If not,
what is name and where do I get them?


 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 I actually use Frontline on incoming cats with fleas..just that once, 
 then it's the friendly little nematodes!
 
  
 
  
 
 From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf 
 Of Lee Evans
 Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 4:53 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 
  
 
 I don't believe that the doses would be different because you break 
 the big one into 7 doses (as in Frontline Plus).  I was afraid to do 
 this at first because I thought it might somehow be different than the 
 single doses but if you think about it, there's no sediment at the 
 bottom of the tube.  It's all uniformly mixed so no possibility of 
 different strengths from breaking up the tube into smaller doses. What 
 you are paying for in the standard cat dose is the packaging.  You are 
 paying for 3 plastic tubes instead of one larger plastic tube.  I 
 don't feel that plastic tubes are so great that  I want to pay $15 
 extra above the cost of the ingredients.  I wish more stuff was on a 
 bring your own bottle basis.  Some stuff in the grocery store is 
 sold that way - peanut butter, honey, some cosmetics.  Everything else 
 is over-packaged so that when you finish your juice or your ketchup or 
 whatever, you either toss the package, bottle  into the landfill or 
 you have to lug it to recycle if you don't live in a city with 
 curbside pick-up.  I have been breaking Frontline Plus and Revolution 
 into cat size doses for years.  Haven't tried Advantage though because 
 it goes by weight and that's a little more work intensive, since I have
several cats who can't fit through the doorway and several more who could
slip through the keyhole.
 
  
 
  
 
 Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
 neighbors too!
 
  
 
   _
 
 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 5:40 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 
 
 On 10-05, Edna Taylor wrote:
 My vet frowns on using any dog flea product on cats because she said
 even though it is the same ingredients, the portions of the same
 ingredients may be different. 
 
 The vet will make much more money if you give individual doses. I 
 cannot do this as I have 24 rescued cats at this time, and at $15. a 
 pop, every month, I'd be broke in no time, so I buy flea stuff from 
 CAnada or overseas and dose down from the big dog size.  However, 
 dosing down from the big dog size MUST be carefully figured out so the
cats are not hurt.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-06 Thread Lorrie
On 10-05, Edna Taylor wrote:
My vet frowns on using any dog flea product on cats because she said
even though it is the same ingredients, the portions of the same
ingredients may be different. 

The vet will make much more money if you give individual doses. I cannot do
this as I have 24 rescued cats at this time, and at $15. a pop, every month,
I'd be broke in no time, so I buy flea stuff from CAnada or overseas and
dose down from the big dog size.  However, dosing down from the big dog
size MUST be carefully figured out so the cats are not hurt.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-06 Thread Lee Evans
I don't believe that the doses would be different because you break the big one 
into 7 doses (as in Frontline Plus).  I was afraid to do this at first because 
I thought it might somehow be different than the single doses but if you think 
about it, there's no sediment at the bottom of the tube.  It's all uniformly 
mixed so no possibility of different strengths from breaking up the tube into 
smaller doses. What you are paying for in the standard cat dose is the 
packaging.  You are paying for 3 plastic tubes instead of one larger plastic 
tube.  I don't feel that plastic tubes are so great that  I want to pay $15 
extra above the cost of the ingredients.  I wish more stuff was on a bring 
your own bottle basis.  Some stuff in the grocery store is sold that way - 
peanut butter, honey, some cosmetics.  Everything else is over-packaged so that 
when you finish your juice or your ketchup or whatever, you either toss the 
package, bottle  into the landfill
 or you have to lug it to recycle if you don't live in a city with curbside 
pick-up.  I have been breaking Frontline Plus and Revolution into cat size 
doses for years.  Haven't tried Advantage though because it goes by weight and 
that's a little more work intensive, since I have several cats who can't fit 
through the doorway and several more who could slip through the keyhole.



 
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too!





 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 
On 10-05, Edna Taylor wrote:
    My vet frowns on using any dog flea product on cats because she said
    even though it is the same ingredients, the portions of the same
    ingredients may be different. 

The vet will make much more money if you give individual doses. I cannot do
this as I have 24 rescued cats at this time, and at $15. a pop, every month,
I'd be broke in no time, so I buy flea stuff from CAnada or overseas and
dose down from the big dog size.  However, dosing down from the big dog
size MUST be carefully figured out so the cats are not hurt.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-06 Thread GRAS
I actually use Frontline on incoming cats with fleas..just that once, then
it's the friendly little nematodes!

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee
Evans
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 4:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

 

I don't believe that the doses would be different because you break the big
one into 7 doses (as in Frontline Plus).  I was afraid to do this at first
because I thought it might somehow be different than the single doses but if
you think about it, there's no sediment at the bottom of the tube.  It's all
uniformly mixed so no possibility of different strengths from breaking up
the tube into smaller doses. What you are paying for in the standard cat
dose is the packaging.  You are paying for 3 plastic tubes instead of one
larger plastic tube.  I don't feel that plastic tubes are so great that  I
want to pay $15 extra above the cost of the ingredients.  I wish more stuff
was on a bring your own bottle basis.  Some stuff in the grocery store is
sold that way - peanut butter, honey, some cosmetics.  Everything else is
over-packaged so that when you finish your juice or your ketchup or
whatever, you either toss the package, bottle  into the landfill or you have
to lug it to recycle if you don't live in a city with curbside pick-up.  I
have been breaking Frontline Plus and Revolution into cat size doses for
years.  Haven't tried Advantage though because it goes by weight and that's
a little more work intensive, since I have several cats who can't fit
through the doorway and several more who could slip through the keyhole.

 

 

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty
neighbors too!

 

  _  

From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


On 10-05, Edna Taylor wrote:
My vet frowns on using any dog flea product on cats because she said
even though it is the same ingredients, the portions of the same
ingredients may be different. 

The vet will make much more money if you give individual doses. I cannot do
this as I have 24 rescued cats at this time, and at $15. a pop, every month,
I'd be broke in no time, so I buy flea stuff from CAnada or overseas and
dose down from the big dog size.  However, dosing down from the big dog
size MUST be carefully figured out so the cats are not hurt.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-06 Thread Lee Evans
Do you use nematodes inside your house?  I thought they are just for the yard, 
need soil and water to do their thing.


 
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too!





 From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 

I actually use Frontline on incoming cats with fleas….just that once, then it’s 
the friendly little nematodes!
 
 
From:Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee 
Evans
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 4:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 
I don't believe that the doses would be different because you break the big one 
into 7 doses (as in Frontline Plus).  I was afraid to do this at first because 
I thought it might somehow be different than the single doses but if you think 
about it, there's no sediment at the bottom of the tube.  It's all uniformly 
mixed so no possibility of different strengths from breaking up the tube into 
smaller doses. What you are paying for in the standard cat dose is the 
packaging.  You are paying for 3 plastic tubes instead of one larger plastic 
tube.  I don't feel that plastic tubes are so great that  I want to pay $15 
extra above the cost of the ingredients.  I wish more stuff was on a bring 
your own bottle basis.  Some stuff in the grocery store is sold that way - 
peanut butter, honey, some cosmetics.  Everything else is over-packaged so that 
when you finish your juice or your ketchup or whatever, you either toss the 
package, bottle  into the landfill
 or you have to lug it to recycle if you don't live in a city with curbside 
pick-up.  I have been breaking Frontline Plus and Revolution into cat size 
doses for years.  Haven't tried Advantage though because it goes by weight and 
that's a little more work intensive, since I have several cats who can't fit 
through the doorway and several more who could slip through the keyhole.
 
 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!
 



From:Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

On 10-05, Edna Taylor wrote:
    My vet frowns on using any dog flea product on cats because she said
    even though it is the same ingredients, the portions of the same
    ingredients may be different. 

The vet will make much more money if you give individual doses. I cannot do
this as I have 24 rescued cats at this time, and at $15. a pop, every month,
I'd be broke in no time, so I buy flea stuff from CAnada or overseas and
dose down from the big dog size.  However, dosing down from the big dog
size MUST be carefully figured out so the cats are not hurt.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-06 Thread GRAS
All around the house on the grass and under their outdoor enclosures.

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee 
Evans
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 6:08 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

 

Do you use nematodes inside your house?  I thought they are just for the yard, 
need soil and water to do their thing.

 

 

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!

 

  _  

From: GRAS g...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 4:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

 

I actually use Frontline on incoming cats with fleas….just that once, then it’s 
the friendly little nematodes!

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lee 
Evans
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 4:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

 

I don't believe that the doses would be different because you break the big one 
into 7 doses (as in Frontline Plus).  I was afraid to do this at first because 
I thought it might somehow be different than the single doses but if you think 
about it, there's no sediment at the bottom of the tube.  It's all uniformly 
mixed so no possibility of different strengths from breaking up the tube into 
smaller doses. What you are paying for in the standard cat dose is the 
packaging.  You are paying for 3 plastic tubes instead of one larger plastic 
tube.  I don't feel that plastic tubes are so great that  I want to pay $15 
extra above the cost of the ingredients.  I wish more stuff was on a bring 
your own bottle basis.  Some stuff in the grocery store is sold that way - 
peanut butter, honey, some cosmetics.  Everything else is over-packaged so that 
when you finish your juice or your ketchup or whatever, you either toss the 
package, bottle  into the landfill or you have to lug it to recycle if you 
don't live in a city with curbside pick-up.  I have been breaking Frontline 
Plus and Revolution into cat size doses for years.  Haven't tried Advantage 
though because it goes by weight and that's a little more work intensive, since 
I have several cats who can't fit through the doorway and several more who 
could slip through the keyhole.

 

 

Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!

 

  _  

From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Saturday, October 6, 2012 5:40 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


On 10-05, Edna Taylor wrote:
My vet frowns on using any dog flea product on cats because she said
even though it is the same ingredients, the portions of the same
ingredients may be different. 

The vet will make much more money if you give individual doses. I cannot do
this as I have 24 rescued cats at this time, and at $15. a pop, every month,
I'd be broke in no time, so I buy flea stuff from CAnada or overseas and
dose down from the big dog size.  However, dosing down from the big dog
size MUST be carefully figured out so the cats are not hurt.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Beth
This is why off-topic posts should be kept off list. I almost deleted this 
because the subject line said President
The Advantage dosage I have used for years  got from my vet is  .4 if the cat 
is 8lb or under .8 is over 8lbs

Just
 remeber the dosage is different if you are using Advantage or 
Frontline.  make sure you are using a product that is safe on cats.
 MOST OF THE NEW DOG PRODUCTS ARE NOT OK TO USE ON CATS - EG. ADVANTIX


Beth


 
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 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
 

What I do is buy the Large Dog size Frontline Plus and break it into 0.05 
doses.  Each tube that would treat one dog, treats seven cats.  Since I have a 
lot of cats, I buy the 6 pack, which costs me about $60 at Costco.  I can treat 
42 cats.  It breaks down to about $1.45 a cat.  However, if you don't have a 
quantity of cats, you could buy the 3 pack.  I think it's about $32.  Each tube 
treats 7 cats.  I think another Yahoo list, feral_c...@yahoogroups.com has 
the information on how to dose out Frontline, Advantage and Revolution from the 
Large Dog size. Join and look in Files.


 
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 From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
 

I have a cat question:  I just bought some Advantage flea drops and whew, it's 
expensive.  I have 5 cats, one of which has a horrible flea-bite allergy.  
Usually I only have to use the drops in the summer months.  All the cats get 
the drops.  Does anyone have any suggestions on cheaper flea drop 
alternatives?  The cat with the flea-bite allergy is so sensitive, she can't 
even get the drops every month, I have to space it out.
I saw on Amazon.com that there are other Advantage drops, one of which includes 
cats  rabbits and it is a bit cheaper, packaged for Europe...has anyone tried 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Lee Evans
Of course you should ALWAYS ask a vet what the dosage is and what product is 
safe for cats.  If you look at the label of Revolution and of Frontline Plus, 
you will see that the ingredients are exactly the same for dogs as for cats but 
not the dosage.  So you have to get the dosage correct.  With Revolution, it 
would be 0.035 and for Frontline, it's 0.05. You need to talk to your vet about 
this and explain that you are on a very limited budget with cats who need flea 
treatment and ask for the dose from her/him.  If your vet doesn't want to do 
that, there are FILES at feral_c...@yahoogroups.com that explain dosages.  
Those of us who are caring for multiple cats really can't afford $16 a dose of 
flea treatment for each of 20 to 40 cats each month.  I have a measuring 
syringe with the exact dosage marked off in permanent ink pen.  You MUST read 
labels and compare the dog product ingredients to the cat product ingredients.  
You're right that
 Advantix is deadly for cats because there's an extra one or two ingredients 
added that are only safe for dogs.  I distrust the generic or store brand that 
says that it works as good as whatever you are buying it to replace.  
Sometimes, these products are NOT as good.  So you have to be careful or you 
will have a cat full of fleas AND fleas product.  AND PLEASE, whatever you do, 
don't buy Hartz products.  They are a company that doesn't care if animals die 
from their terrible flea and tick products or are paralyzed for life.



 
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 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 

This is why off-topic posts should be kept off list. I almost deleted this 
because the subject line said President
The Advantage dosage I have used for years  got from my vet is  .4 if the cat 
is 8lb or under .8 is over 8lbs

Just
 remeber the dosage is different if you are using Advantage or 
Frontline.  make sure you are using a product that is safe on cats.
 MOST OF THE NEW DOG PRODUCTS ARE NOT OK TO USE ON CATS - EG. ADVANTIX


Beth


 
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 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
 

What I do is buy the Large Dog size Frontline Plus and break it into 0.05 
doses.  Each tube that would treat one dog, treats seven cats.  Since I have a 
lot of cats, I buy the 6 pack, which costs me about $60 at Costco.  I can treat 
42 cats.  It breaks down to about $1.45 a cat.  However, if you don't have a 
quantity of cats, you could buy the 3 pack.  I think it's about $32.  Each tube 
treats 7 cats.  I think another Yahoo list, feral_c...@yahoogroups.com has 
the information on how to dose out Frontline, Advantage and Revolution from the 
Large Dog size. Join and look in Files.


 
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too!





 From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President
 

I have a cat question:  I just bought some Advantage flea drops and whew, it's 
expensive.  I have 5 cats, one of which has a horrible flea-bite allergy.  
Usually I only have to use the drops in the summer months.  All the cats get 
the drops.  Does anyone have any suggestions on cheaper flea drop 
alternatives?  The cat with the flea-bite allergy is so sensitive, she can't 
even get the drops every month, I have to space it out.
I saw on Amazon.com that there are other Advantage drops, one of which includes 
cats  rabbits and it is a bit cheaper, packaged for Europe...has anyone tried 
it?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Maureen Olvey

Also - don't get Advantage Multi for Dogs and break it down for cats.  Regular 
Advantage for dogs is okay to break down for cats but don't use the Multi.  
Some extra ingredient in there is bad news for cats.  Obviously the cat Multi 
is okay.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 



Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 11:32:14 -0700
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


Of course you should ALWAYS ask a vet what the dosage is and what product is 
safe for cats.  If you look at the label of Revolution and of Frontline Plus, 
you will see that the ingredients are exactly the same for dogs as for cats but 
not the dosage.  So you have to get the dosage correct.  With Revolution, it 
would be 0.035 and for Frontline, it's 0.05. You need to talk to your vet about 
this and explain that you are on a very limited budget with cats who need flea 
treatment and ask for the dose from her/him.  If your vet doesn't want to do 
that, there are FILES at feral_c...@yahoogroups.com that explain dosages.  
Those of us who are caring for multiple cats really can't afford $16 a dose of 
flea treatment for each of 20 to 40 cats each month.  I have a measuring 
syringe with the exact dosage marked off in permanent ink pen.  You MUST read 
labels and compare the dog product ingredients to the cat product ingredients.  
You're right that Advantix is deadly for cats because there's an extra one or 
two ingredients added that are only safe for dogs.  I distrust the generic or 
store brand that says that it works as good as whatever you are buying it to 
replace.  Sometimes, these products are NOT as good.  So you have to be careful 
or you will have a cat full of fleas AND fleas product.  AND PLEASE, whatever 
you do, don't buy Hartz products.  They are a company that doesn't care if 
animals die from their terrible flea and tick products or are paralyzed for 
life.




 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!










From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products




This is why off-topic posts should be kept off list. I almost deleted this 
because the subject line said President
The Advantage dosage I have used for years  got from my vet is  .4 if the cat 
is 8lb or under .8 is over 8lbs

Just remeber the dosage is different if you are using Advantage or Frontline.  
make sure you are using a product that is safe on cats. MOST OF THE NEW DOG 
PRODUCTS ARE NOT OK TO USE ON CATS - EG. ADVANTIX


Beth



 
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From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President




What I do is buy the Large Dog size Frontline Plus and break it into 0.05 
doses.  Each tube that would treat one dog, treats seven cats.  Since I have a 
lot of cats, I buy the 6 pack, which costs me about $60 at Costco.  I can treat 
42 cats.  It breaks down to about $1.45 a cat.  However, if you don't have a 
quantity of cats, you could buy the 3 pack.  I think it's about $32.  Each tube 
treats 7 cats.  I think another Yahoo list, feral_c...@yahoogroups.com has 
the information on how to dose out Frontline, Advantage and Revolution from the 
Large Dog size. Join and look in Files.



 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!










From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President


I have a cat question:  I just bought some Advantage flea drops and whew, it's 
expensive.  I have 5 cats, one of which has a horrible flea-bite allergy.  
Usually I only have to use the drops in the summer months.  All the cats get 
the drops.  Does anyone have any suggestions on cheaper flea drop alternatives? 
 The cat with the flea-bite allergy is so sensitive, she can't even get the 
drops every month, I have to space it out.
I saw on Amazon.com that there are other Advantage drops, one of which includes 
cats  rabbits and it is a bit cheaper, packaged for Europe...has anyone tried 
it?
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Edna Taylor

My vet frowns on using any dog flea product on cats because she said even 
though it is the same ingredients, the portions of the same ingredients may be 
different.  However, I understand that when we have many it is costly.  Heck, 
we brought home a kitty that had walking mange (chewing lice - lovely) and in 
an overabundance of caution we put Advantage (or Revolution, can't remember) on 
everyone and it was about $400 to dose everyone in the house - YIKES
 From: molvey...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 15:48:35 -0400
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products





Also - don't get Advantage Multi for Dogs and break it down for cats.  Regular 
Advantage for dogs is okay to break down for cats but don't use the Multi.  
Some extra ingredient in there is bad news for cats.  Obviously the cat Multi 
is okay.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 




Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 11:32:14 -0700
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


Of course you should ALWAYS ask a vet what the dosage is and what product is 
safe for cats.  If you look at the label of Revolution and of Frontline Plus, 
you will see that the ingredients are exactly the same for dogs as for cats but 
not the dosage.  So you have to get the dosage correct.  With Revolution, it 
would be 0.035 and for Frontline, it's 0.05. You need to talk to your vet about 
this and explain that you are on a very limited budget with cats who need flea 
treatment and ask for the dose from her/him.  If your vet doesn't want to do 
that, there are FILES at feral_c...@yahoogroups.com that explain dosages.  
Those of us who are caring for multiple cats really can't afford $16 a dose of 
flea treatment for each of 20 to 40 cats each month.  I have a measuring 
syringe with the exact dosage marked off in permanent ink pen.  You MUST read 
labels and compare the dog product ingredients to the cat product ingredients.  
You're right that Advantix is deadly for cats because there's an extra one or 
two ingredients added that are only safe for dogs.  I distrust the generic or 
store brand that says that it works as good as whatever you are buying it to 
replace.  Sometimes, these products are NOT as good.  So you have to be careful 
or you will have a cat full of fleas AND fleas product.  AND PLEASE, whatever 
you do, don't buy Hartz products.  They are a company that doesn't care if 
animals die from their terrible flea and tick products or are paralyzed for 
life.




 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!










From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products




This is why off-topic posts should be kept off list. I almost deleted this 
because the subject line said President
The Advantage dosage I have used for years  got from my vet is  .4 if the cat 
is 8lb or under .8 is over 8lbs

Just remeber the dosage is different if you are using Advantage or Frontline.  
make sure you are using a product that is safe on cats. MOST OF THE NEW DOG 
PRODUCTS ARE NOT OK TO USE ON CATS - EG. ADVANTIX


Beth



 
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org

 






From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President




What I do is buy the Large Dog size Frontline Plus and break it into 0.05 
doses.  Each tube that would treat one dog, treats seven cats.  Since I have a 
lot of cats, I buy the 6 pack, which costs me about $60 at Costco.  I can treat 
42 cats.  It breaks down to about $1.45 a cat.  However, if you don't have a 
quantity of cats, you could buy the 3 pack.  I think it's about $32.  Each tube 
treats 7 cats.  I think another Yahoo list, feral_c...@yahoogroups.com has 
the information on how to dose out Frontline, Advantage and Revolution from the 
Large Dog size. Join and look in Files.



 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!










From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President


I have a cat question:  I just bought some Advantage flea drops and whew, it's 
expensive.  I have 5 cats, one of which has a horrible flea-bite allergy.  
Usually I only have to use the drops in the summer months.  All the cats get 
the drops.  Does anyone have any suggestions on cheaper flea drop alternatives? 
 The cat with the flea-bite allergy is so sensitive, she can't even get the 
drops

Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Beth
Oh great!. My vet said the Multi was OK.But it still isn't working


 
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 From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 

 
Also - don't get Advantage Multi for Dogs and break it down for cats.  Regular 
Advantage for dogs is okay to break down for cats but don't use the Multi.  
Some extra ingredient in there is bad news for cats.  Obviously the cat Multi 
is okay.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 



 Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 11:32:14 -0700
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


Of course you should ALWAYS ask a vet what the dosage is and what product is 
safe for cats.  If you look at the label of Revolution and of Frontline Plus, 
you will see that the ingredients are exactly the same for dogs as for cats but 
not the dosage.  So you have to get the dosage correct.  With Revolution, it 
would be 0.035 and for Frontline, it's 0.05. You need to talk to your vet about 
this and explain that you are on a very limited budget with cats who need flea 
treatment and ask for the dose from her/him.  If your vet doesn't want to do 
that, there are FILES at feral_c...@yahoogroups.com that explain dosages.  
Those of us who are caring for multiple cats really can't afford $16 a dose of 
flea treatment for each of 20 to 40 cats each month.  I have a measuring 
syringe with the exact dosage marked off in permanent ink pen.  You MUST read 
labels and compare the dog product ingredients to the cat product ingredients.  
You're right that
 Advantix is deadly for cats because there's an extra one or two ingredients 
added that are only safe for dogs.  I distrust the generic or store brand that 
says that it works as good as whatever you are buying it to replace.  
Sometimes, these products are NOT as good.  So you have to be careful or you 
will have a cat full of fleas AND fleas product.  AND PLEASE, whatever you do, 
don't buy Hartz products.  They are a company that doesn't care if animals die 
from their terrible flea and tick products or are paralyzed for life.



 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


This is why off-topic posts should be kept off list. I almost deleted this 
because the subject line said President
The Advantage dosage I have used for years  got from my vet is  .4 if the cat 
is 8lb or under .8 is over 8lbs

Just remeber the dosage is different if you are using Advantage or Frontline.  
make sure you are using a product that is safe on cats. MOST OF THE NEW DOG 
PRODUCTS ARE NOT OK TO USE ON CATS - EG. ADVANTIX


Beth


 
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 From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President


What I do is buy the Large Dog size Frontline Plus and break it into 0.05 
doses.  Each tube that would treat one dog, treats seven cats.  Since I have a 
lot of cats, I buy the 6 pack, which costs me about $60 at Costco.  I can treat 
42 cats.  It breaks down to about $1.45 a cat.  However, if you don't have a 
quantity of cats, you could buy the 3 pack.  I think it's about $32.  Each tube 
treats 7 cats.  I think another Yahoo list, feral_c...@yahoogroups.com has 
the information on how to dose out Frontline, Advantage and Revolution from the 
Large Dog size. Join and look in Files.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Martha Walton marthawal...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 11:27 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President


I have a cat question:  I just bought some Advantage flea drops and whew, it's 
expensive.  I have 5 cats, one of which has a horrible flea-bite allergy.  
Usually I only have to use the drops in the summer months.  All the cats get 
the drops.  Does anyone have any suggestions on cheaper flea drop 
alternatives?  The cat with the flea-bite allergy is so sensitive, she can't 
even get the drops every month, I have to space it out.
I saw on Amazon.com that there are other Advantage drops, one of which includes 
cats  rabbits and it is a bit cheaper, packaged for Europe

Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Maureen Olvey

It's been a while since I read that about the dog Multi, however I doubt 
they've changed ingredients.  I can't remember what ingredient it is in the dog 
multi that's bad for cats.  I found the info online though so I know it's out 
there.  Maybe what I read was wrong though.  Find out what ingredient is bad 
and ask your vet if he knows the dog multi has that ingredient in there and 
tell him someone told you it was bad for cats.  I'd go back and look it up if I 
had time but I've got to get back to work cause the CPAs will be here Monday to 
audit the books for my company. 
 
“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 



Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 12:56:46 -0700
From: create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


Oh great!. My vet said the Multi was OK.But it still isn't working



 
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From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 3:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products






Also - don't get Advantage Multi for Dogs and break it down for cats.  Regular 
Advantage for dogs is okay to break down for cats but don't use the Multi.  
Some extra ingredient in there is bad news for cats.  Obviously the cat Multi 
is okay.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 




Date: Fri, 5 Oct 2012 11:32:14 -0700
From: moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products


Of course you should ALWAYS ask a vet what the dosage is and what product is 
safe for cats.  If you look at the label of Revolution and of Frontline Plus, 
you will see that the ingredients are exactly the same for dogs as for cats but 
not the dosage.  So you have to get the dosage correct.  With Revolution, it 
would be 0.035 and for Frontline, it's 0.05. You need to talk to your vet about 
this and explain that you are on a very limited budget with cats who need flea 
treatment and ask for the dose from her/him.  If your vet doesn't want to do 
that, there are FILES at feral_c...@yahoogroups.com that explain dosages.  
Those of us who are caring for multiple cats really can't afford $16 a dose of 
flea treatment for each of 20 to 40 cats each month.  I have a measuring 
syringe with the exact dosage marked off in permanent ink pen.  You MUST read 
labels and compare the dog product ingredients to the cat product ingredients.  
You're right that Advantix is deadly for cats because there's an extra one or 
two ingredients added that are only safe for dogs.  I distrust the generic or 
store brand that says that it works as good as whatever you are buying it to 
replace.  Sometimes, these products are NOT as good.  So you have to be careful 
or you will have a cat full of fleas AND fleas product.  AND PLEASE, whatever 
you do, don't buy Hartz products.  They are a company that doesn't care if 
animals die from their terrible flea and tick products or are paralyzed for 
life.




 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!










From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products




This is why off-topic posts should be kept off list. I almost deleted this 
because the subject line said President
The Advantage dosage I have used for years  got from my vet is  .4 if the cat 
is 8lb or under .8 is over 8lbs

Just remeber the dosage is different if you are using Advantage or Frontline.  
make sure you are using a product that is safe on cats. MOST OF THE NEW DOG 
PRODUCTS ARE NOT OK TO USE ON CATS - EG. ADVANTIX


Beth



 
Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org

 






From: Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] President




What I do is buy the Large Dog size Frontline Plus and break it into 0.05 
doses.  Each tube that would treat one dog, treats seven cats.  Since I have a 
lot of cats, I buy the 6 pack, which costs me about $60 at Costco.  I can treat 
42 cats.  It breaks down to about $1.45 a cat.  However, if you don't have a 
quantity of cats, you could buy the 3 pack.  I think it's about $32.  Each tube 
treats 7 cats.  I think another Yahoo list, feral_c...@yahoogroups.com has 
the information on how to dose out Frontline

Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Lorrie
I don't understand why people don't change the subject line when
the subject changes???

On 10-05, Beth wrote:
This is why off-topic posts should be kept off list. I almost deleted
this because the subject line said President
The Advantage dosage I have used for years  got from my vet is  .4 if
the cat is 8lb or under .8 is over 8lbs
Just remeber the dosage is different if you are using Advantage or
Frontline.  make sure you are using a product that is safe on cats.
MOST OF THE NEW DOG PRODUCTS ARE NOT OK TO USE ON CATS - EG. ADVANTIX
Beth
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Cindy McHugh
I bought Frontline for my foster cats last summer and it was completely 
ineffective. The next time I was at my vet’s office, I mentioned it (because 
that’s where I bought it). The vet on duty (not my regular) said she had 
recently heard many similar complaints and surmised that fleas in our area were 
building an immunity to it. 
I switched to Advantage and it’s worked well. However, since then, I found a 
source for a generic equivalent and I’ve been using it for about a year now 
with no complaints. It’s $10 (free shipping) for 18 treatments for small cats 
or 9 treatments for larger cats. If anyone is interested, the company is 
www.fleakiller.co
I have no personal interest in this company or site. I’m just a very satisfied 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Beth
Thanks! I know Walmart is selling a brand that is the same ingredients as 
Frontline, but still much more than that!

Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org wrote:

I bought Frontline for my foster cats last summer and it was completely 
ineffective. The next time I was at my vet’s office, I mentioned it (because 
that’s where I bought it). The vet on duty (not my regular) said she had 
recently heard many similar complaints and surmised that fleas in our area 
were building an immunity to it. 
I switched to Advantage and it’s worked well. However, since then, I found a 
source for a generic equivalent and I’ve been using it for about a year now 
with no complaints. It’s $10 (free shipping) for 18 treatments for small cats 
or 9 treatments for larger cats. If anyone is interested, the company is 
www.fleakiller.co
I have no personal interest in this company or site. I’m just a very satisfied 
customer. 
Cindy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Joslin Potter

Honestly, I found that a good old fashion bath with dawn dish soap 
and flea comb has been our best defense this year. ( along with a few house 
bombs) It sucks having to give everyone a bath but i like it more then putting 
greasy drops on my pets.
 


 From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
  

I 
bought Frontline for my foster cats last summer and it was completely 
ineffective. The next time I was at my vet’s office, I mentioned it (because 
that’s where I bought it). The vet on duty (not my regular) said she had 
recently heard many similar complaints and surmised that fleas in our area were 
building an immunity to it.  
 
I 
switched to Advantage and it’s worked well. However, since then, I found a 
source for a generic equivalent and I’ve been using it for about a year now 
with 
no complaints. It’s $10 (free shipping) for 18 treatments for small cats or 9 
treatments for larger cats. If anyone is interested, the company is 
http://www.fleakiller.co/ 
 
I 
have no personal interest in this company or site. I’m just a very satisfied 
customer.  
 
Cindy 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Kathryn Hargreaves
I'm not a big fan of spot-on flea meds, either, as it only makes scientific
sense that some will survive and be resistant to the poison (as with
bacteria and abx).

I've only had to use them (Advantage, which my vet said is the safest for
cats, but your mileage may vary) once when we had a flea infestation that
was spreading a red blood cell parasite and taking down the one who
originally had it.   When I had some pound kitties come in with fleas, I
only had to give them one Capstar (works for one day and kills only adult
fleas).

In both instances, I also cleaned up the floor--which harbors 90% of the
fleas (in egg/larvae form)--with a solution of food-grade (note NOT pool
grade) diatomaceous earth, water, and non-toxic soap.   I have concrete
floors, so I just painted this on.   (When I use DE dry, it messes up my
sinuses and causes headaches, and isn't that good for kitty lungs, either.)
  I have not had a problem for 2--3 years now.   If you have carpets, I've
read that vacuuming every day (and disposing of the bag or emptying the
canister) will also get most of the eggs.   You can also sprinkle DE or
salt onto the carpet, brush it in, and leave for a day before vacuuming.


On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Honestly, I found that a good old fashion bath with dawn dish soap
 and flea comb has been our best defense this year. ( along with a few house
 bombs) It sucks having to give everyone a bath but i like it more then
 putting greasy drops on my pets.

*From:* Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org
 *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 *Sent:* Friday, October 5, 2012 7:55 PM

 *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

I bought Frontline for my foster cats last summer and it was
 completely ineffective. The next time I was at my vet’s office, I mentioned
 it (because that’s where I bought it). The vet on duty (not my regular)
 said she had recently heard many similar complaints and surmised that fleas
 in our area were building an immunity to it.

  I switched to Advantage and it’s worked well. However, since then, I
 found a source for a generic equivalent and I’ve been using it for about a
 year now with no complaints. It’s $10 (free shipping) for 18 treatments for
 small cats or 9 treatments for larger cats. If anyone is interested, the
 company is http://www.fleakiller.co/

  I have no personal interest in this company or site. I’m just a very
 satisfied customer.

  Cindy

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If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their
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If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
to free up cage space.


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
implementing the No Kill Equation:
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread GRAS
Remember that there are some cats that you cannot bathe, no matter what! It is 
important to keep the soap on for about 5 minutes!  Didsolve the little 
bugger’s waxy coating!  Natalie

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Joslin 
Potter
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:23 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

 

Honestly, I found that a good old fashion bath with dawn dish soap and flea 
comb has been our best defense this year. ( along with a few house bombs) It 
sucks having to give everyone a bath but i like it more then putting greasy 
drops on my pets.

 

From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products





I bought Frontline for my foster cats last summer and it was completely 
ineffective. The next time I was at my vet’s office, I mentioned it (because 
that’s where I bought it). The vet on duty (not my regular) said she had 
recently heard many similar complaints and surmised that fleas in our area were 
building an immunity to it. 

 

I switched to Advantage and it’s worked well. However, since then, I found a 
source for a generic equivalent and I’ve been using it for about a year now 
with no complaints. It’s $10 (free shipping) for 18 treatments for small cats 
or 9 treatments for larger cats. If anyone is interested, the company is 
http://www.fleakiller.co/

 

I have no personal interest in this company or site. I’m just a very satisfied 
customer. 

 

Cindy


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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Natalie
Has anyone used the friendly nematodes to spray around the house?  That’s all 
we use – except for a new cat coming in with fleas – they get zapped with it 
only once, period!

 

 

From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
Kathryn Hargreaves
Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:33 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

 

I'm not a big fan of spot-on flea meds, either, as it only makes scientific 
sense that some will survive and be resistant to the poison (as with bacteria 
and abx).  

 

I've only had to use them (Advantage, which my vet said is the safest for cats, 
but your mileage may vary) once when we had a flea infestation that was 
spreading a red blood cell parasite and taking down the one who originally had 
it.   When I had some pound kitties come in with fleas, I only had to give them 
one Capstar (works for one day and kills only adult fleas).

 

In both instances, I also cleaned up the floor--which harbors 90% of the fleas 
(in egg/larvae form)--with a solution of food-grade (note NOT pool grade) 
diatomaceous earth, water, and non-toxic soap.   I have concrete floors, so I 
just painted this on.   (When I use DE dry, it messes up my sinuses and causes 
headaches, and isn't that good for kitty lungs, either.)   I have not had a 
problem for 2--3 years now.   If you have carpets, I've read that vacuuming 
every day (and disposing of the bag or emptying the canister) will also get 
most of the eggs.   You can also sprinkle DE or salt onto the carpet, brush it 
in, and leave for a day before vacuuming.

 

On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com wrote:

Honestly, I found that a good old fashion bath with dawn dish soap and flea 
comb has been our best defense this year. ( along with a few house bombs) It 
sucks having to give everyone a bath but i like it more then putting greasy 
drops on my pets.

 

From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:55 PM


Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

 

I bought Frontline for my foster cats last summer and it was completely 
ineffective. The next time I was at my vet’s office, I mentioned it (because 
that’s where I bought it). The vet on duty (not my regular) said she had 
recently heard many similar complaints and surmised that fleas in our area were 
building an immunity to it. 

 

I switched to Advantage and it’s worked well. However, since then, I found a 
source for a generic equivalent and I’ve been using it for about a year now 
with no complaints. It’s $10 (free shipping) for 18 treatments for small cats 
or 9 treatments for larger cats. If anyone is interested, the company is 
http://www.fleakiller.co/

 

I have no personal interest in this company or site. I’m just a very satisfied 
customer. 

 

Cindy

 

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Go Get a Life---Go Get a Shelter Animal!

 

If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their 
life.  Contact your local pound for information. 

 

If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and to 
free up cage space.

 


Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by 
implementing the No Kill Equation: 
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/ 
http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/ 

Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities: 
http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/

Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org

More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/

More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially 
http://vimeo.com/48445902

 

 

 

Local feral cat crisis?   See Alley Cat Allies' for how to respond: 
http://www.alleycat.org/page.aspx?pid=537

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Beth
That would be a lot of baths.And a huge emergency bill for my wounds.

Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com wrote:


Honestly, I found that a good old fashion bath with dawn dish soap 
and flea comb has been our best defense this year. ( along with a few house 
bombs) It sucks having to give everyone a bath but i like it more then putting 
greasy drops on my pets.
 


 From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
  

I 
bought Frontline for my foster cats last summer and it was completely 
ineffective. The next time I was at my vet’s office, I mentioned it (because 
that’s where I bought it). The vet on duty (not my regular) said she had 
recently heard many similar complaints and surmised that fleas in our area 
were 
building an immunity to it.  
 
I 
switched to Advantage and it’s worked well. However, since then, I found a 
source for a generic equivalent and I’ve been using it for about a year now 
with 
no complaints. It’s $10 (free shipping) for 18 treatments for small cats or 9 
treatments for larger cats. If anyone is interested, the company is 
http://www.fleakiller.co/ 
 
I 
have no personal interest in this company or site. I’m just a very satisfied 
customer.  
 
Cindy 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread Lee Evans
I just went to the home page.  WOW!  This is wonderful.  Per cat it comes out 
to be less than a dollar a dose.  I'm sending this page on to a rescuer who is 
not on this list but runs a rescued cat shelter and adoption center.  Thanks 
for mentioning it.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 6:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 

I 
bought Frontline for my foster cats last summer and it was completely 
ineffective. The next time I was at my vet’s office, I mentioned it (because 
that’s where I bought it). The vet on duty (not my regular) said she had 
recently heard many similar complaints and surmised that fleas in our area were 
building an immunity to it. 
 
I 
switched to Advantage and it’s worked well. However, since then, I found a 
source for a generic equivalent and I’ve been using it for about a year now 
with 
no complaints. It’s $10 (free shipping) for 18 treatments for small cats or 9 
treatments for larger cats. If anyone is interested, the company is 
www.fleakiller.co
 
I 
have no personal interest in this company or site. I’m just a very satisfied 
customer. 
 
Cindy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread dlgegg
For some reason, my pride has not had a problem with fleas or ticks.  Don't 
know if the extreme heat killed them off or what.  Now that we are getting some 
rain, mosquitos are getting to be a problem at dusk and early am so the cats 
only go out at midday.  When we are all out, the mosquitos seem to prefer me to 
the cats.  Found out that my old fashioned lye soap made with Jewelweed cuts 
the itching down.  The heat killed my jewelweed off this year so I am going to 
make a rain garden for it.  Then it will have enuogh moisture to grow good.


 Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 That would be a lot of baths.And a huge emergency bill for my wounds.

Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com wrote:


Honestly, I found that a good old fashion bath with dawn dish soap 
and flea comb has been our best defense this year. ( along with a few house 
bombs) It sucks having to give everyone a bath but i like it more then putting 
greasy drops on my pets.
 


 From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
  

I 
bought Frontline for my foster cats last summer and it was completely 
ineffective. The next time I was at my vet’s office, I mentioned it (because 
that’s where I bought it). The vet on duty (not my regular) said she had 
recently heard many similar complaints and surmised that fleas in our area 
were 
building an immunity to it.  
 
I 
switched to Advantage and it’s worked well. However, since then, I found a 
source for a generic equivalent and I’ve been using it for about a year now 
with 
no complaints. It’s $10 (free shipping) for 18 treatments for small cats or 9 
treatments for larger cats. If anyone is interested, the company is 
http://www.fleakiller.co/ 
 
I 
have no personal interest in this company or site. I’m just a very satisfied 
customer.  
 
Cindy 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread dlgegg

I would need a transfusion every time I tried to bathe my guys!

 GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: 
 Remember that there are some cats that you cannot bathe, no matter what! It 
 is important to keep the soap on for about 5 minutes!  Didsolve the little 
 bugger’s waxy coating!  Natalie
 
 From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
 Joslin Potter
 Sent: Friday, October 05, 2012 8:23 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 
  
 
 Honestly, I found that a good old fashion bath with dawn dish soap and flea 
 comb has been our best defense this year. ( along with a few house bombs) It 
 sucks having to give everyone a bath but i like it more then putting greasy 
 drops on my pets.
 
  
 
 From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:55 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 
 
 
 
 
 I bought Frontline for my foster cats last summer and it was completely 
 ineffective. The next time I was at my vet’s office, I mentioned it (because 
 that’s where I bought it). The vet on duty (not my regular) said she had 
 recently heard many similar complaints and surmised that fleas in our area 
 were building an immunity to it. 
 
  
 
 I switched to Advantage and it’s worked well. However, since then, I found a 
 source for a generic equivalent and I’ve been using it for about a year now 
 with no complaints. It’s $10 (free shipping) for 18 treatments for small cats 
 or 9 treatments for larger cats. If anyone is interested, the company is 
 http://www.fleakiller.co/
 
  
 
 I have no personal interest in this company or site. I’m just a very 
 satisfied customer. 
 
  
 
 Cindy
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread dlgegg

There seem to be a lot of questions about the flea meds.  I am having enough 
problems in deciding to vaccinate or not.  I have a couple who never go outside 
so are not exposed to critters that might infect them and 1 is 14 years old.  I 
am afraid that vaccinating her at that age might do more harm than good.  The 
others only go out for an hour or 2 and most of the time they are on the deck 
laying in the sun.  Rabies is required here, but not the others.  I do give the 
negative cats the FELV vaccine since I have 2 positives.

 Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I'm not a big fan of spot-on flea meds, either, as it only makes scientific
 sense that some will survive and be resistant to the poison (as with
 bacteria and abx).
 
 I've only had to use them (Advantage, which my vet said is the safest for
 cats, but your mileage may vary) once when we had a flea infestation that
 was spreading a red blood cell parasite and taking down the one who
 originally had it.   When I had some pound kitties come in with fleas, I
 only had to give them one Capstar (works for one day and kills only adult
 fleas).
 
 In both instances, I also cleaned up the floor--which harbors 90% of the
 fleas (in egg/larvae form)--with a solution of food-grade (note NOT pool
 grade) diatomaceous earth, water, and non-toxic soap.   I have concrete
 floors, so I just painted this on.   (When I use DE dry, it messes up my
 sinuses and causes headaches, and isn't that good for kitty lungs, either.)
   I have not had a problem for 2--3 years now.   If you have carpets, I've
 read that vacuuming every day (and disposing of the bag or emptying the
 canister) will also get most of the eggs.   You can also sprinkle DE or
 salt onto the carpet, brush it in, and leave for a day before vacuuming.
 
 
 On Fri, Oct 5, 2012 at 4:22 PM, Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Honestly, I found that a good old fashion bath with dawn dish soap
  and flea comb has been our best defense this year. ( along with a few house
  bombs) It sucks having to give everyone a bath but i like it more then
  putting greasy drops on my pets.
 
 *From:* Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org
  *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  *Sent:* Friday, October 5, 2012 7:55 PM
 
  *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
 
 I bought Frontline for my foster cats last summer and it was
  completely ineffective. The next time I was at my vet’s office, I mentioned
  it (because that’s where I bought it). The vet on duty (not my regular)
  said she had recently heard many similar complaints and surmised that fleas
  in our area were building an immunity to it.
 
   I switched to Advantage and it’s worked well. However, since then, I
  found a source for a generic equivalent and I’ve been using it for about a
  year now with no complaints. It’s $10 (free shipping) for 18 treatments for
  small cats or 9 treatments for larger cats. If anyone is interested, the
  company is http://www.fleakiller.co/
 
   I have no personal interest in this company or site. I’m just a very
  satisfied customer.
 
   Cindy
 
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 If you can't adopt, then foster bottle baby shelter animal, to save their
 life.  Contact your local pound for information.
 http://www.laanimalservices.com/volunteer_fostercare.htm
 
 If you can't bottle feed, foster an older animal, to save their life, and
 to free up cage space.
 
 
 Ask your local animal pound to start saving over 90% of their intake by
 implementing the No Kill Equation:
 http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/no-kill-equation/http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/
 
 Here's the current growing list of true No Kill communities:
 http://www.nokillhouston.org/no-kill-shelters-in-north-america/
 
 Legislate better animal pound conditions: http://www.rescue50.org
 
 More fun reading: http://www.nokilladvocacycenter.org/shelter-reform/guides/
 
 More fun watching: http://vimeo.com/nokill/videos especially
 http://vimeo.com/48445902
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

2012-10-05 Thread longhornfans
My cats have been prescribed Interceptor for heartworms caused by mosquitos. We 
get them inside our house occasionally - but it only takes one bite. Granted 
dogs get heartworms more often but vets are seeing an increase in cats. My 
question is do you think Interceptor is safe for cats?

Thanks!
Lynda
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-Original Message-
From: dlg...@windstream.net
Sender: Felvtalk felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Fri, 05 Oct 2012 22:08:27 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products

For some reason, my pride has not had a problem with fleas or ticks.  Don't 
know if the extreme heat killed them off or what.  Now that we are getting some 
rain, mosquitos are getting to be a problem at dusk and early am so the cats 
only go out at midday.  When we are all out, the mosquitos seem to prefer me to 
the cats.  Found out that my old fashioned lye soap made with Jewelweed cuts 
the itching down.  The heat killed my jewelweed off this year so I am going to 
make a rain garden for it.  Then it will have enuogh moisture to grow good.


 Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 That would be a lot of baths.And a huge emergency bill for my wounds.

Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com wrote:


Honestly, I found that a good old fashion bath with dawn dish soap 
and flea comb has been our best defense this year. ( along with a few house 
bombs) It sucks having to give everyone a bath but i like it more then putting 
greasy drops on my pets.
 


 From: Cindy McHugh ci...@furangels.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, October 5, 2012 7:55 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Flea Products
  

I 
bought Frontline for my foster cats last summer and it was completely 
ineffective. The next time I was at my vet’s office, I mentioned it (because 
that’s where I bought it). The vet on duty (not my regular) said she had 
recently heard many similar complaints and surmised that fleas in our area 
were 
building an immunity to it.  
 
I 
switched to Advantage and it’s worked well. However, since then, I found a 
source for a generic equivalent and I’ve been using it for about a year now 
with 
no complaints. It’s $10 (free shipping) for 18 treatments for small cats or 9 
treatments for larger cats. If anyone is interested, the company is 
http://www.fleakiller.co/ 
 
I 
have no personal interest in this company or site. I’m just a very satisfied 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Flea products

2010-10-17 Thread Lorrie
Thanks for the info..  I have always been wary of all those flea
products as they are pesticides, and the warning about us not getting
it on our skin tells the story!  A little bit on our skin couldn't
possibly be as bad as the entire tube on our cats!

Lorrie and 14 cats in WV

Cats are independent. They don't listen, they don't come when you
call, they like to stay out all night, and when they're home they
like to be left alone to sleep. In other words, every quality women
hate in a man, they love in a cat!

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 kitties but was always worried about the toxicity of it. I started
 researching and found a great list about the toxicity of flea and
 tick products on the NRDC (national resource defense council)
 website. I've always questioned the safeness of those topical
 treatments, and was reassured by my vets, but, come on, how can
 they be safe when they say YOU should not get them on YOUR skin?
 Anyway, I decided to go with Program. The one I buy is the kind you
 mix in their food. I was leery that they wouldn't eat it, but all 5
 cats ate it w/no problem. It was one of the products on the list
 that was considered to have very low toxicity. Here's the link:
 http://www.greenpaws.org/_docs/GP_productlist.pdf It lists them in
 order of risk. I have had no problem with fleas this year, and 4 of
 my 5 cats go outside.
 
 
 On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Stacy Zacher stacy_zac...@yahoo.comwrote:
 
  Thanks to everyone for the ideas, I will run them past my vet today and
  confirm if he does have fleas or not.  He eats from only stainless steel or
  ceramic bowls but could have been bitten by something to cause the lump
  under his chin.  So far I've found natural flea products with neem oil,
  clover oil, thyme oil, rosemary oil, citronella oil, celery seed oil,
  eucalyptus oil, cedar oil  (combinations of these).   I will ask the vet
  about testing for FIA/Hemobart if he does indeed have the fleas.
  Hope to be flea free,
  Stacy and Spanky
 
  Message: 7
  Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:51:23 -0400
  From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas
  Message-ID: 004401cb6a14$8f137ba0$ad3a72...@net
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  www.cedarcide.com . The animal can be sprayed directly with no harm. All
  kinds of natural products.
  www.drgoodpet.com - Look under flea control - we use their product to
  spray
  around the house so that no fleas can be brought inside and the cats can
  use
  the outdoor enclosures safely. We use Frontline only on cats that are
  introduced to the fold...and of course, we check if they have fleas.
  The fewer chemicals you use on cats with a compromised immune systems, the
  better!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net]
  Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:43 AM
  To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
  Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas
 
  If you see something under the chin, it could be chin acne, often mistaken
  for flea dirt.  Comes mostly from using porous feeding dishes...try using
  only ceramic, stainless steel...There are many non-poisonous alternatives
  against fleasthe cedar one is good.  We use nematodes to spray around
  the house and with so many cats, have no flea problems.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
  create_me_...@yahoo.com
  Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:44 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas
 
  I use advantage. FeLV cats are very prone to Hemobartonella, which will
  cause severe anemia  comes from fleas. ALL my cats get Advantage every
  month  I have never had a problem. Fleas also cause tape worms which will
  deprive the cat of nutrients.
  Beth
  Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry
 
  -Original Message-
  From: Szacherdroid stacy_zac...@yahoo.com
  Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:34:49
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas
 
  Hi all...I suspect Spanky may have fleas. I found some flea dirt looking
  dust and a lump under his chin and also have been seeing little red bugs
  around but no fleas when I comb him. Some were flying so I thought, they
  couldn't be fleas.  I also have a dog and it has been unseasonably warm
  here
  in WI this week.
 
  Please let me know how you treat an felv kitty with a weak immune system
  for
  fleas.  I am terrified at the prospect of having to spray my home and treat
  him.  He used to get one of the topicals years ago but vet didn't think
  that
  would be good for him now.  We have a vet appt tomorrow for ltci injection
  and bloodwork.   I am taking some of the sample bugs I collected for