Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie

2010-10-26 Thread paola cresti
That particular kitty passed away about 8 years ago, but it's great to know 
about, thanks Natalie!





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
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Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 8:53:30 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Bonnie

My vet has been using it for quite a few years...a blood test results
determine whether to us Calcitriol, however, not many vets are using it.  I
would print up some of the veterinary infos and ask the vet. Our cats were
always using a very small amount, 0.25mL.  It's not cheap and it has to be
formulated specifically for cats and dogs.

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie

Oh my cat didn't have Calcitiol, I saw several vets and none ever brought it
up, 
I wonder how recent it is, if my cat didn't qualify for it, or if it
wasn't in 
use yet.
Yes my cat was getting a lot of fluids, drinking and subQ, and her pee
sometimes 
didn't smell.
Just wanted to put it out there so people kept in mind that sometimes it can
be 
pee even if it doesn't smell so as not to just disregard it immediately...





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
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Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 6:12:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Bonnie

I have dealt with many, many renal failure cats - some urine may be quite
diluted if cat gets fluids daily; however, those that don't and don't drink
enough water, the urine can be quite concentrated.  I've also had an older
cat that didn't get sub-q fluids, and he always peed under himself in his
sleep. Every cat and every case is different, even if they all receive the
same treatment. But since most of the renal failure cats get Calcitriol,
their lives have been dramatically changed for the better and longer,
without many typical and expected side effects. Natalie

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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 1:28 AM
To: leukemia list
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie



Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as
there'd 
be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced 
stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean
the 
body of toxins so it doesn't smell.

I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty
that 
lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat 
incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps.





From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie

If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary

tract problems. 


Gloria

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:

 The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night.
I put 
my hand on it and it didn't smell.  That's what throws me.  The black light

trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with!
 I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent
hospital 
following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly
loves 
her Lucky.  She said, Yes, he slobbers a lot.  So, maybe that is the
answer!
 - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie
 
 
 Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I
used
 to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the
 drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED

2010-10-25 Thread Bonnie Hogue

Paola
Thanks for that information.  But I think I've finally solved the mystery of 
the Pee Spot!  Lucky frequently spits up.  He'll be fine for days, then have 
a bout of spitting up almost clear liquid, 3 or 4 times a day.  I mentioned 
to the vet he spits up and the vet seemed unconcerned, saying cats are very 
susceptible to gastric upset.  I now think the spots on the bed were not 
pee, but spit up.  I'm not sure if this is a serious issue; I'll mention it 
to the vet again.  But having him spit up rather than pee is a little easier 
for me psychologically, at least!

~Bonnie
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To: leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 10:28 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie





Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as 
there'd
be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an 
advanced
stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean 
the

body of toxins so it doesn't smell.

I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty 
that

lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat
incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps.





From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie

If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply 
urinary

tract problems.


Gloria

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:

The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night. 
I put
my hand on it and it didn't smell.  That's what throws me.  The black 
light

trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with!
I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent 
hospital
following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly 
loves
her Lucky.  She said, Yes, he slobbers a lot.  So, maybe that is the 
answer!

- Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie


Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I 
used
to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif 
the

drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else.
emia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie

2010-10-25 Thread Bonnie Hogue

Thanks, Natalie.
I took Lucky to the vet last week; he didn't seem to have a uti or kidney 
issue.  In fact, Lucky has bounced back quite remarkably -- his fur is 
thickening up nicely, growing back in the bald spots and (best of all) he's 
putting back on his weight.  Eats good, drinks goodJust the spitting up 
issue now.
I've learned so much from you folks with your generous posts, I can't thank 
you enough.  And I'm very moved by your commitment to improving the lives 
and caretaking for these wonderful animals!

~Bonnie
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 6:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie



I have dealt with many, many renal failure cats - some urine may be quite
diluted if cat gets fluids daily; however, those that don't and don't 
drink

enough water, the urine can be quite concentrated.  I've also had an older
cat that didn't get sub-q fluids, and he always peed under himself in his
sleep. Every cat and every case is different, even if they all receive the
same treatment. But since most of the renal failure cats get Calcitriol,
their lives have been dramatically changed for the better and longer,
without many typical and expected side effects. Natalie

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 1:28 AM
To: leukemia list
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie



Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as
there'd
be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an 
advanced

stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean
the
body of toxins so it doesn't smell.

I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty
that
lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat
incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps.





From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie

If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply 
urinary


tract problems.


Gloria

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:


The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night.

I put
my hand on it and it didn't smell.  That's what throws me.  The black 
light



trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with!
I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent

hospital

following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly

loves

her Lucky.  She said, Yes, he slobbers a lot.  So, maybe that is the

answer!

- Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie



Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I

used
to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif 
the

drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else.
emia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED

2010-10-25 Thread tamara stickler
Bonnie,
 
I have a large cat that DROOLS worse than any mastiff!  Part of the reason is 
that I had to have his one fang removed when he was rescued b/c it was broken 
off and rotten.  NOW, nearly every time his gets up...there is a good sized 
drool spot where he was laying.  It's a bit disgusting...but forgivable.
 
PLUS, his very favorite pastime is eating... I've noticed when he dreams of 
eating (mouth going a mile a minute in his sleep) that he drools considerably 
more.  Usually has to get a drink when he gets up.
 
Lastly, I had another cat that would drool when he was starting with a sinus 
infection...- his nose would drip and he would mouth breathe.  (If you see 
Lucky's nose dripping or feel it's wet- you would prob. want to take him in to 
be checked out - it can be the sign of bad teeth or ..with Felv a flare-up 
begining.)
 
While the wet spots may be cat hack - I've never found a healthy cat that would 
continue to lay where she/he soiled.
 
Good luck.
T

--- On Mon, 10/25/10, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:


From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 11:12 AM


Paola
Thanks for that information.  But I think I've finally solved the mystery of 
the Pee Spot!  Lucky frequently spits up.  He'll be fine for days, then have a 
bout of spitting up almost clear liquid, 3 or 4 times a day.  I mentioned to 
the vet he spits up and the vet seemed unconcerned, saying cats are very 
susceptible to gastric upset.  I now think the spots on the bed were not pee, 
but spit up.  I'm not sure if this is a serious issue; I'll mention it to the 
vet again.  But having him spit up rather than pee is a little easier for me 
psychologically, at least!
~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: paola cresti iend...@yahoo.com
To: leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 10:28 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie


 
 
 Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as 
 there'd
 be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced
 stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean the
 body of toxins so it doesn't smell.
 
 I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty that
 lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat
 incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps.
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie
 
 If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary
 tract problems.
 
 
 Gloria
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
 
 The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night. I 
 put
 my hand on it and it didn't smell.  That's what throws me.  The black light
 trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with!
 I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent 
 hospital
 following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly 
 loves
 her Lucky.  She said, Yes, he slobbers a lot.  So, maybe that is the 
 answer!
 - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie
 
 
 Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I used
 to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the
 drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else.
 emia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED

2010-10-25 Thread Susan Saunders
Ask your vet if Pepcid AC will help.

Susan Saunders



- Original Message 
From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 11:12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED

Paola
Thanks for that information.  But I think I've finally solved the mystery of 
the 
Pee Spot!  Lucky frequently spits up.  He'll be fine for days, then have a bout 
of spitting up almost clear liquid, 3 or 4 times a day.  I mentioned to the vet 
he spits up and the vet seemed unconcerned, saying cats are very susceptible to 
gastric upset.  I now think the spots on the bed were not pee, but spit up.  
I'm 
not sure if this is a serious issue; I'll mention it to the vet again.  But 
having him spit up rather than pee is a little easier for me psychologically, 
at 
least!
~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: paola cresti iend...@yahoo.com
To: leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 10:28 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie


 
 
 Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as 
there'd
 be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced
 stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean the
 body of toxins so it doesn't smell.
 
 I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty that
 lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat
 incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps.
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie
 
 If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary
 tract problems.
 
 
 Gloria
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
 
 The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night. I 
put
 my hand on it and it didn't smell.  That's what throws me.  The black light
 trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with!
 I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent 
hospital
 following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly 
loves
 her Lucky.  She said, Yes, he slobbers a lot.  So, maybe that is the 
answer!
 - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie
 
 
 Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I used
 to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the
 drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else.
 emia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED

2010-10-25 Thread Sharyl
Bonnie, vomiting a clear liquid is often a sign of excess stomach acid.  2.5 mg 
of Original Strength Pepcid AC EOD seems to help most kitties.

By the way I disagree with your vet.  Any upset should be investigated and 
treated.
Sharyl

--- On Mon, 10/25/10, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:

 From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 11:12 AM
 Paola
 Thanks for that information.  But I think I've finally
 solved the mystery of the Pee Spot!  Lucky frequently
 spits up.  He'll be fine for days, then have a bout of
 spitting up almost clear liquid, 3 or 4 times a day.  I
 mentioned to the vet he spits up and the vet seemed
 unconcerned, saying cats are very susceptible to gastric
 upset.  I now think the spots on the bed were not pee,
 but spit up.  I'm not sure if this is a serious issue;
 I'll mention it to the vet again.  But having him spit
 up rather than pee is a little easier for me
 psychologically, at least!
 ~Bonnie



  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED

2010-10-25 Thread Cougar Clan

Mine recommends Pepcid when my little guys spit up too much.
On Oct 25, 2010, at 10:12 AM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Paola
Thanks for that information.  But I think I've finally solved the  
mystery of the Pee Spot!  Lucky frequently spits up.  He'll be fine  
for days, then have a bout of spitting up almost clear liquid, 3 or  
4 times a day.  I mentioned to the vet he spits up and the vet  
seemed unconcerned, saying cats are very susceptible to gastric  
upset.  I now think the spots on the bed were not pee, but spit up.   
I'm not sure if this is a serious issue; I'll mention it to the vet  
again.  But having him spit up rather than pee is a little easier  
for me psychologically, at least!

~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: paola cresti iend...@yahoo.com
To: leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 10:28 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie





Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just  
FYI as there'd
be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an  
advanced
stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't  
clean the

body of toxins so it doesn't smell.

I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a  
kitty that
lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make  
the cat

incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps.





From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie

If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could  
imply urinary

tract problems.


Gloria

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:

The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last  
night. I put
my hand on it and it didn't smell.  That's what throws me.  The  
black light

trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with!
I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a  
convalescent hospital
following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she  
dearly loves
her Lucky.  She said, Yes, he slobbers a lot.  So, maybe that is  
the answer!

- Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie


Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with  
teeth - I used
to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with  
droolif the

drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else.
emia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED

2010-10-25 Thread Natalie
My vet prescribed Pepcid A/C so some kidney patients (cats)..

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Saunders
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 11:48 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED

Ask your vet if Pepcid AC will help.

Susan Saunders



- Original Message 
From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 11:12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED

Paola
Thanks for that information.  But I think I've finally solved the mystery of
the 
Pee Spot!  Lucky frequently spits up.  He'll be fine for days, then have a
bout 
of spitting up almost clear liquid, 3 or 4 times a day.  I mentioned to the
vet 
he spits up and the vet seemed unconcerned, saying cats are very susceptible
to 
gastric upset.  I now think the spots on the bed were not pee, but spit up. 
I'm 
not sure if this is a serious issue; I'll mention it to the vet again.  But 
having him spit up rather than pee is a little easier for me
psychologically, at 
least!
~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: paola cresti iend...@yahoo.com
To: leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 10:28 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie


 
 
 Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as 
there'd
 be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an
advanced
 stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean
the
 body of toxins so it doesn't smell.
 
 I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty
that
 lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat
 incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps.
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie
 
 If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply
urinary
 tract problems.
 
 
 Gloria
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
 
 The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night.
I 
put
 my hand on it and it didn't smell.  That's what throws me.  The black
light
 trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with!
 I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent 
hospital
 following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly 
loves
 her Lucky.  She said, Yes, he slobbers a lot.  So, maybe that is the 
answer!
 - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie
 
 
 Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I
used
 to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif
the
 drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie

2010-10-25 Thread paola cresti
Oh my cat didn't have Calcitiol, I saw several vets and none ever brought it 
up, 
I wonder how recent it is, if my cat didn't qualify for it, or if it wasn't 
in 
use yet.
Yes my cat was getting a lot of fluids, drinking and subQ, and her pee 
sometimes 
didn't smell.
Just wanted to put it out there so people kept in mind that sometimes it can be 
pee even if it doesn't smell so as not to just disregard it immediately...





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 6:12:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Bonnie

I have dealt with many, many renal failure cats - some urine may be quite
diluted if cat gets fluids daily; however, those that don't and don't drink
enough water, the urine can be quite concentrated.  I've also had an older
cat that didn't get sub-q fluids, and he always peed under himself in his
sleep. Every cat and every case is different, even if they all receive the
same treatment. But since most of the renal failure cats get Calcitriol,
their lives have been dramatically changed for the better and longer,
without many typical and expected side effects. Natalie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 1:28 AM
To: leukemia list
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie



Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as
there'd 
be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced 
stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean
the 
body of toxins so it doesn't smell.

I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty
that 
lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat 
incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps.





From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie

If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary

tract problems. 


Gloria

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:

 The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night.
I put 
my hand on it and it didn't smell.  That's what throws me.  The black light

trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with!
 I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent
hospital 
following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly
loves 
her Lucky.  She said, Yes, he slobbers a lot.  So, maybe that is the
answer!
 - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie
 
 
 Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I
used
 to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the
 drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED

2010-10-25 Thread paola cresti
glad to hear that, certainly is better, incontinent cat would be no fun. I 
didn't think Lucky could have renal failure, so many people read these and 
since 
I've gotten so much good info out of others' stories I wanted to keep it out 
there that here is an occurrence when pee doesn't smell.
Go Lucky!

Paola





From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 8:12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED

Paola
Thanks for that information.  But I think I've finally solved the mystery of 
the 
Pee Spot!  Lucky frequently spits up.  He'll be fine for days, then have a bout 
of spitting up almost clear liquid, 3 or 4 times a day.  I mentioned to the vet 
he spits up and the vet seemed unconcerned, saying cats are very susceptible to 
gastric upset.  I now think the spots on the bed were not pee, but spit up.  
I'm 
not sure if this is a serious issue; I'll mention it to the vet again.  But 
having him spit up rather than pee is a little easier for me psychologically, 
at 
least!
~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: paola cresti iend...@yahoo.com
To: leukemia list felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, October 24, 2010 10:28 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie


 
 
 Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as 
there'd
 be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced
 stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean the
 body of toxins so it doesn't smell.
 
 I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty that
 lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat
 incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps.
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie
 
 If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary
 tract problems.
 
 
 Gloria
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:
 
 The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night. I 
put
 my hand on it and it didn't smell.  That's what throws me.  The black light
 trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with!
 I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent 
hospital
 following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly 
loves
 her Lucky.  She said, Yes, he slobbers a lot.  So, maybe that is the 
answer!
 - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie
 
 
 Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I used
 to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the
 drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie

2010-10-25 Thread Natalie
My vet has been using it for quite a few years...a blood test results
determine whether to us Calcitriol, however, not many vets are using it.  I
would print up some of the veterinary infos and ask the vet. Our cats were
always using a very small amount, 0.25mL.  It's not cheap and it has to be
formulated specifically for cats and dogs.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 10:05 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie

Oh my cat didn't have Calcitiol, I saw several vets and none ever brought it
up, 
I wonder how recent it is, if my cat didn't qualify for it, or if it
wasn't in 
use yet.
Yes my cat was getting a lot of fluids, drinking and subQ, and her pee
sometimes 
didn't smell.
Just wanted to put it out there so people kept in mind that sometimes it can
be 
pee even if it doesn't smell so as not to just disregard it immediately...





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, October 25, 2010 6:12:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Bonnie

I have dealt with many, many renal failure cats - some urine may be quite
diluted if cat gets fluids daily; however, those that don't and don't drink
enough water, the urine can be quite concentrated.  I've also had an older
cat that didn't get sub-q fluids, and he always peed under himself in his
sleep. Every cat and every case is different, even if they all receive the
same treatment. But since most of the renal failure cats get Calcitriol,
their lives have been dramatically changed for the better and longer,
without many typical and expected side effects. Natalie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti
Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 1:28 AM
To: leukemia list
Subject: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie



Also pee doesn't smell much when a cat has kidney failure - just FYI as
there'd 
be other symptoms (drinking a lot for example) and also it's at an advanced 
stage that the pee doesn't smell anymore, because the kidneys can't clean
the 
body of toxins so it doesn't smell.

I don't think this is the case, but just so it's out there (I had a kitty
that 
lived with kidney failure for quite a while) also it wouldn't make the cat 
incontinent or explain why he's peeing where he sleeps.





From: Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, October 21, 2010 11:41:47 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie

If it isn't drool and it is pee, and doesn't smell, that could imply urinary

tract problems. 


Gloria

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 21, 2010, at 10:49 AM, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:

 The bed was wet again this morning, near where he was laying last night.
I put 
my hand on it and it didn't smell.  That's what throws me.  The black light

trick is a good one -- I'll see what I can come up with!
 I asked my mom is Lucky drools and slobbers -- she's in a convalescent
hospital 
following two severe strokes and communicating is hard -- but she dearly
loves 
her Lucky.  She said, Yes, he slobbers a lot.  So, maybe that is the
answer!
 - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2010 6:08 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Bonnie
 
 
 Some cats are real droolers - it may have nothing to do with teeth - I
used
 to have one cat that made my arm and lap totally wet with droolif the
 drool isn't clear, then it could be a sign of something else.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED

2010-10-25 Thread Bonnie Hogue

Sharyl
Thanks for the input.  He did vomit a lot today, poor fellow.  I'll try the 
Pepcid AC.

~Bonnie
- Original Message - 
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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2010 11:12 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw: Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED


Bonnie, vomiting a clear liquid is often a sign of excess stomach acid. 
2.5 mg of Original Strength Pepcid AC EOD seems to help most kitties.


By the way I disagree with your vet.  Any upset should be investigated and 
treated.

Sharyl

--- On Mon, 10/25/10, Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote:


From: Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Fw:  Bonnie P-SPOT SOLVED
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, October 25, 2010, 11:12 AM
Paola
Thanks for that information. But I think I've finally
solved the mystery of the Pee Spot! Lucky frequently
spits up. He'll be fine for days, then have a bout of
spitting up almost clear liquid, 3 or 4 times a day. I
mentioned to the vet he spits up and the vet seemed
unconcerned, saying cats are very susceptible to gastric
upset. I now think the spots on the bed were not pee,
but spit up. I'm not sure if this is a serious issue;
I'll mention it to the vet again. But having him spit
up rather than pee is a little easier for me
psychologically, at least!
~Bonnie






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