Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-07 Thread wendy
Sharyl,

I am so sorry about Butterball and Smoky Jo.  And God, I hate PETA too, for so 
many reasons, this one above all  They are a bunch of kooks.  They are way 
over the top, and it would be really nice if we could exterminate anyone in 
PETA who is not in perfect health.  Maybe then they would finally get the 
message.  

I can't imagine how you feel, and if I were in your shoes, I'm not sure I would 
be sane enough for a while to make any rational decisions because I would be so 
angry, I wouldn't know what to do with myself.  Nothing angers me more than 
innocent animals being harmed.

Again, I'm so sorry...
Wendy
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the world - indeed it is the only thing that ever has! ~~~ Margaret Meade 
~~~ 





From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 1:51:08 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I feed.  Then 
Sunday I trapped Butterball.  A new group is organizing here on the Eastern 
Shore to help with low cost speutering of ferals.  Wed. the PETA SNIPS van came 
to speuter pets ($45) and ferals (#25).  I took Smokey Jo and Butterball.  My 
other low cost speutering place had fallen through and the only other option is 
$200 per cat at the animal hospital.    

I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad.  The release form I signed said they 
could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or FIV.  I explained to the vet 
I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in my garage/cat enclosure.  She 
checked with her supervisor and told me no exceptions.  I should have left then 
but both of mine seemed healthy.  When I went to pick them up I found out they 
had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am devastated.

PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let their van 
spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or FIV are killed.  
PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess.

Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What really burns me 
is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know about FIV.  But FIV is 
generally spread by deep bites.  Once Butterball was fixed he wouldn't be 
fighting anymore.  Just PETA's way of 'thinning the herd' I guess.  Then they 
kept my money.

Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around the PETA 
policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a vet to pre-test any 
future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for either I'll have to find 
some other way to have them fixed.

I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by them. Neither 
was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way home. Almost like the 
heavens were crying with me for them. 

Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to them.
Sharyl
 


      

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Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-06 Thread dlgegg
we can write a letter to the editor of all local papers and tv stations telling 
them about PETA.  keep it civil, don't give them an excuse to sue.
 Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 I wish I had the money to run a public service commercial after everyone of 
 their's telling folks PETA kills cats and dogs.
 Sharyl
 
 --- On Fri, 12/4/09, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
  From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 12:32 PM
  maybe we should start our own
  education program about PETA and let everyone know just how
  caring they are.
   Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com
  wrote: 
   Janine,
   I'm glad you brought this up. This is the first thing
  that came 
   to my mind, because I've heard PETA kills all the
  ferals they can.
   
   
  
 
 
   
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-04 Thread Lorrie
Sharyl,

PETA is terrible.  I donated to them for years before I found
out what they do to feral cats.   I've horror stories about how
they are out to exterminate all the feral cats they can. When
I heard about the things they do to cats I e-mailed them and
they admitted it.  They said the cats were killed to spare them
any suffering in the future!!

I'm so sorry you had this happen to Smokey Jo and Butterball.
I know you must feel just terrible about it.

Lorrie 


On 12-03, Sharyl wrote:

 Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I
 feed.  Then Sunday I trapped Butterball.  A new group is organizing
 here on the Eastern Shore to help with low cost speutering of
 ferals.  Wed. the PETA SNIPS van came to speuter pets ($45) and
 ferals (#25).  I took Smokey Jo and Butterball.  My other low cost
 speutering place had fallen through and the only other option is
 $200 per cat at the animal hospital.
 
 I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad.  The release form I
 signed said they could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or
 FIV.  I explained to the vet I would sanctuary them if they tested
 positive in my garage/cat enclosure.  She checked with her
 supervisor and told me no exceptions.  I should have left then but
 both of mine seemed healthy.  When I went to pick them up I found
 out they had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am devastated.
 
 PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let
 their van spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV
 or FIV are killed.  PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess.
 
 Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What
 really burns me is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't
 know about FIV.  But FIV is generally spread by deep bites.  Once
 Butterball was fixed he wouldn't be fighting anymore.  Just PETA's
 way of 'thinning the herd' I guess.  Then they kept my money.
 
 Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around
 the PETA policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a
 vet to pre-test any future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive
 for either I'll have to find some other way to have them fixed.
 
 I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by
 them. Neither was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way
 home. Almost like the heavens were crying with me for them.
 
 Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to
 them. Sharyl

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Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-04 Thread Lorrie
Janine,
I'm glad you brought this up. This is the first thing that came 
to my mind, because I've heard PETA kills all the ferals they can.


On 12-03, janine paton wrote:

 Is it just me, or does anyone else think maybe PETA killed these
 cats regardless of their test results.  In other words, is it
 possible the cats didn't test positive for anything but feral, so
 was an excuse to kill them?  Sharyl, I am so very sorry.
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-04 Thread Debbie Bates

Janine, I would bet money in it!

Debbie (COL)
Be kind, for everyone you meet is fighting a hard battle  Philo


 
 Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 17:22:25 -0800
 From: patonjan...@sbcglobal.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
 
 Is it just me, or does anyone else think maybe PETA killed these cats 
 regardless of their test results. In other words, is it possible the cats 
 didn't test positive for anything but feral, so was an excuse to kill them? 
 Sharyl, I am so very sorry. 
 
 Janine 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 7:51:46 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
 
 Oh, Sharyl! This is just so sad and pointless. But a really hard learning
 experience, I guess, about PETA's practices. I know Butterball and Smoky Jo
 know you were trying to help them. Gentle Bridge vibes to both of them, and
 solace to you. I'm grieving with you.
 
 Diane R. 
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-04 Thread dlgegg
I HAVE READ ALL THE POSTS ON PETA.  I THINK WE ALL SHOULD GIVE THEM A PIECE OF 
OUR MINDS.  PROBABLY WON;T MAKE THEM CHANGE THEIR MINDS, BUT MAYBE IT WILL MAKE 
THEM THINK TWICE.  HOW DARE THEY NOT LET THESE BABIES HAVE A CHANCE AT LIFE!  
RIGHT NOW, I AM WRITING AROUND EARS AND NOSES SINCE HARLEY AND DEE BOTH LIKE TO 
CHASE THE CURSER AND NEW WORDS AS THEY APPEAR ON THE SCREEN.  WE REALLY LIKE 
THEACTIONS ON SOME OF THE COMMERCIALS ON SCREEN.  RIGHT NOW A MAN IS SHOVELING 
SNOW AND THEY ARE TRYING TO CATCH HIM.  I KNOW I WOULD HAVE BEEN ARRESTED, BUT 
I DO THINK I WOULD HAVE TRASHED A FEW OF THEM BEFORE I LEFT.  I KNOW I WOULD 
HAVE HAD MURDER IN MY HEART.  SHERYL, I FEEL FOR YOU.  I KNOW HOW I WOULD HAVE 
FELT.  MY PRAYERS FOR YOU, YOU TRIED TO DO WHAT WAS RIGHT AND THEY DOUBLE 
CROSSED YOU.  LOVE, DORLIS Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I feed.  
 Then Sunday I trapped Butterball.  A new group is organizing here on the 
 Eastern Shore to help with low cost speutering of ferals.  Wed. the PETA 
 SNIPS van came to speuter pets ($45) and ferals (#25).  I took Smokey Jo and 
 Butterball.  My other low cost speutering place had fallen through and the 
 only other option is $200 per cat at the animal hospital. 
 
 I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad.  The release form I signed said 
 they could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or FIV.  I explained to 
 the vet I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in my garage/cat 
 enclosure.  She checked with her supervisor and told me no exceptions.  I 
 should have left then but both of mine seemed healthy.  When I went to pick 
 them up I found out they had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am 
 devastated.
 
 PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let their van 
 spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or FIV are killed.  
 PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess.
 
 Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What really burns 
 me is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know about FIV.  But FIV 
 is generally spread by deep bites.  Once Butterball was fixed he wouldn't be 
 fighting anymore.  Just PETA's way of 'thinning the herd' I guess.  Then they 
 kept my money.
 
 Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around the PETA 
 policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a vet to pre-test any 
 future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for either I'll have to find 
 some other way to have them fixed.
 
 I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by them. Neither 
 was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way home. Almost like the 
 heavens were crying with me for them. 
 
 Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to them.
 Sharyl
  
 
 
   
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-04 Thread dlgegg
maybe we should start our own education program about PETA and let everyone 
know just how caring they are.
 Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote: 
 Janine,
 I'm glad you brought this up. This is the first thing that came 
 to my mind, because I've heard PETA kills all the ferals they can.
 
 
 On 12-03, janine paton wrote:
 
  Is it just me, or does anyone else think maybe PETA killed these
  cats regardless of their test results.  In other words, is it
  possible the cats didn't test positive for anything but feral, so
  was an excuse to kill them?  Sharyl, I am so very sorry.
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-04 Thread Anna Waltman
Sharyl,
I am so, so sorry to hear this happened to your kitties; it's incredibly
angering that PETA not only undermined your plans to give them a happy,
healthy existence, but also absconded with your money. Like others on this
list, I'm pretty sure they tested before performing the surgery, and so
had no right to keep your payment-- especially after killing two cats that
had a safe haven waiting for them! What disgusting, abjectly unethical
behavior on their part! They'll never get another dime (nor any kind words)
from me following this...

Gentle bridge vibes to your two babies...
Best,
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Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-04 Thread Sharyl
I wish I had the money to run a public service commercial after everyone of 
their's telling folks PETA kills cats and dogs.
Sharyl

--- On Fri, 12/4/09, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 From: dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Friday, December 4, 2009, 12:32 PM
 maybe we should start our own
 education program about PETA and let everyone know just how
 caring they are.
  Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com
 wrote: 
  Janine,
  I'm glad you brought this up. This is the first thing
 that came 
  to my mind, because I've heard PETA kills all the
 ferals they can.
  
  
 


  

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Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-03 Thread Gloria B. Lane

That really sucks big time.  I knew that Peta had problems, and I haven't 
contributed to them in a long time.  But I've never heard of this idiocy.  I'll 
pass this info on - thanks for posting.

Gloria



--- Original Message ---
From : Sharyl[mailto:cline...@yahoo.com]
Sent : 12/3/2009 1:51:08 PM
To : felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Cc : 
Subject : RE: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I feed. Then 
Sunday I trapped Butterball. A new group is organizing here on the Eastern 
Shore to help with low cost speutering of ferals. Wed. the PETA SNIPS van came 
to speuter pets ($45) and ferals (#25). I took Smokey Jo and Butterball. My 
other low cost speutering place had fallen through and the only other option 
is $200 per cat at the animal hospital. 

I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad. The release form I signed said they 
could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or FIV. I explained to the vet 
I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in my garage/cat enclosure. She 
checked with her supervisor and told me no exceptions. I should have left then 
but both of mine seemed healthy. When I went to pick them up I found out they 
had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am devastated.

PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let their van 
spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or FIV are killed. 
PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess.

Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What really burns me 
is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know about FIV. But FIV is 
generally spread by deep bites. Once Butterball was fixed he wouldn't be 
fighting anymore. Just PETA's way of 'thinning the herd' I guess. Then they 
kept my money.

Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around the PETA 
policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a vet to pre-test any 
future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for either I'll have to find 
some other way to have them fixed.

I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by them. Neither 
was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way home. Almost like the 
heavens were crying with me for them. 

Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to them.
Sharyl
 




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Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-03 Thread Sara Kasteleyn
Sharyl, this story breaks my heart.  I know you must be devastated.
There's just so much mis-information out there.  My sympathies.  Sara


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 11:51 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I feed.
Then Sunday I trapped Butterball.  A new group is organizing here on the
Eastern Shore to help with low cost speutering of ferals.  Wed. the PETA
SNIPS van came to speuter pets ($45) and ferals (#25).  I took Smokey Jo and
Butterball.  My other low cost speutering place had fallen through and the
only other option is $200 per cat at the animal hospital. 

I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad.  The release form I signed said
they could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or FIV.  I explained to
the vet I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in my garage/cat
enclosure.  She checked with her supervisor and told me no exceptions.  I
should have left then but both of mine seemed healthy.  When I went to pick
them up I found out they had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am
devastated.

PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let their van
spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or FIV are killed.
PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess.

Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What really burns
me is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know about FIV.  But
FIV is generally spread by deep bites.  Once Butterball was fixed he
wouldn't be fighting anymore.  Just PETA's way of 'thinning the herd' I
guess.  Then they kept my money.

Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around the PETA
policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a vet to pre-test
any future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for either I'll have to
find some other way to have them fixed.

I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by them.
Neither was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way home. Almost
like the heavens were crying with me for them. 

Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to them.
Sharyl
 


  

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Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-03 Thread Laurieskatz
I am so sorry. My heart feels your pain. So sad and so unjustified since you
agreed to keep them.
We found a vet who will SN ferals who are going to be returned to their
location without testing (unless they are symptomatic). 
L


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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:51 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I feed.
Then Sunday I trapped Butterball.  A new group is organizing here on the
Eastern Shore to help with low cost speutering of ferals.  Wed. the PETA
SNIPS van came to speuter pets ($45) and ferals (#25).  I took Smokey Jo and
Butterball.  My other low cost speutering place had fallen through and the
only other option is $200 per cat at the animal hospital. 

I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad.  The release form I signed said
they could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or FIV.  I explained to
the vet I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in my garage/cat
enclosure.  She checked with her supervisor and told me no exceptions.  I
should have left then but both of mine seemed healthy.  When I went to pick
them up I found out they had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am
devastated.

PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let their van
spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or FIV are killed.
PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess.

Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What really burns
me is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know about FIV.  But
FIV is generally spread by deep bites.  Once Butterball was fixed he
wouldn't be fighting anymore.  Just PETA's way of 'thinning the herd' I
guess.  Then they kept my money.

Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around the PETA
policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a vet to pre-test
any future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for either I'll have to
find some other way to have them fixed.

I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by them.
Neither was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way home. Almost
like the heavens were crying with me for them. 

Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to them.
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Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-03 Thread Debbie Bates

I wouldn't give those people anything but a view of my backside as I walked 
out.  There are low cost spay/neuter clinics all around...but sometimes you 
have to really search them out.  I found a local organization that just does 
the surgery...they will test if I request it, but I don't.  PETA doesn't want 
feral cats, but they don't think we should have them as prisoners in our 
homesgo figure.

I am so sorry about your little ones, SharylI understand your pain and 
guilt.  BTW, they shouldn't have kept your money since I am sure they did the 
test prior to surgery!

Debbie (COL)
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 Date: Thu, 3 Dec 2009 11:51:08 -0800
 From: cline...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
 
 Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster colony I feed. 
 Then Sunday I trapped Butterball. A new group is organizing here on the 
 Eastern Shore to help with low cost speutering of ferals. Wed. the PETA SNIPS 
 van came to speuter pets ($45) and ferals (#25). I took Smokey Jo and 
 Butterball. My other low cost speutering place had fallen through and the 
 only other option is $200 per cat at the animal hospital. 
 
 I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad. The release form I signed said 
 they could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or FIV. I explained to 
 the vet I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in my garage/cat 
 enclosure. She checked with her supervisor and told me no exceptions. I 
 should have left then but both of mine seemed healthy. When I went to pick 
 them up I found out they had killed both Smoky Jo and Butterball!! I am 
 devastated.
 
 PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way they'll let their van 
 spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or FIV are killed. 
 PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess.
 
 Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV. What really burns 
 me is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know about FIV. But FIV 
 is generally spread by deep bites. Once Butterball was fixed he wouldn't be 
 fighting anymore. Just PETA's way of 'thinning the herd' I guess. Then they 
 kept my money.
 
 Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way around the PETA 
 policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a vet to pre-test any 
 future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for either I'll have to find 
 some other way to have them fixed.
 
 I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do right by them. Neither 
 was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the way home. Almost like the 
 heavens were crying with me for them. 
 
 Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any money to them.
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Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-03 Thread Sharyl
Laurie, I so want to find a local source for ;ow cost SN.  I've rescued 16 
other cats from this colony.  I knew one family line had FeLV.  I rescued all 8 
of them and still have 3.  
Sharyl

--- On Thu, 12/3/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:

 From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:56 PM
 I am so sorry. My heart feels your
 pain. So sad and so unjustified since you
 agreed to keep them.
 We found a vet who will SN ferals who are going to be
 returned to their
 location without testing (unless they are symptomatic). 
 L
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Sharyl
 Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:51 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
 
 Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster
 colony I feed.
 Then Sunday I trapped Butterball.  A new group is
 organizing here on the
 Eastern Shore to help with low cost speutering of
 ferals.  Wed. the PETA
 SNIPS van came to speuter pets ($45) and ferals
 (#25).  I took Smokey Jo and
 Butterball.  My other low cost speutering place had
 fallen through and the
 only other option is $200 per cat at the animal
 hospital.     
 
 I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad.  The
 release form I signed said
 they could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or
 FIV.  I explained to
 the vet I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in
 my garage/cat
 enclosure.  She checked with her supervisor and told
 me no exceptions.  I
 should have left then but both of mine seemed
 healthy.  When I went to pick
 them up I found out they had killed both Smoky Jo and
 Butterball!! I am
 devastated.
 
 PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way
 they'll let their van
 spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or
 FIV are killed.
 PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess.
 
 Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV.
 What really burns
 me is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know
 about FIV.  But
 FIV is generally spread by deep bites.  Once
 Butterball was fixed he
 wouldn't be fighting anymore.  Just PETA's way of
 'thinning the herd' I
 guess.  Then they kept my money.
 
 Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way
 around the PETA
 policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a
 vet to pre-test
 any future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for
 either I'll have to
 find some other way to have them fixed.
 
 I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do
 right by them.
 Neither was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the
 way home. Almost
 like the heavens were crying with me for them. 
 
 Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any
 money to them.
 Sharyl
  
 
 
       
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-03 Thread Laurieskatz
Bless your heart. I suggest you find a female vet and maybe find one who
already does low cost SN...maybe one who works with your shelter? Where do
you live? (you can email me privately about that if you want).
Laurie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sharyl
Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 2:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

Laurie, I so want to find a local source for ;ow cost SN.  I've rescued 16
other cats from this colony.  I knew one family line had FeLV.  I rescued
all 8 of them and still have 3.  
Sharyl

--- On Thu, 12/3/09, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:

 From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Thursday, December 3, 2009, 2:56 PM
 I am so sorry. My heart feels your
 pain. So sad and so unjustified since you
 agreed to keep them.
 We found a vet who will SN ferals who are going to be
 returned to their
 location without testing (unless they are symptomatic). 
 L
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Sharyl
 Sent: Thursday, December 03, 2009 1:51 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA
 
 Thnksgiving Day I finally trapped Smoky Jo in the dumpster
 colony I feed.
 Then Sunday I trapped Butterball.  A new group is
 organizing here on the
 Eastern Shore to help with low cost speutering of
 ferals.  Wed. the PETA
 SNIPS van came to speuter pets ($45) and ferals
 (#25).  I took Smokey Jo and
 Butterball.  My other low cost speutering place had
 fallen through and the
 only other option is $200 per cat at the animal
 hospital.     
 
 I knew PETA sucks but had no idea how bad.  The
 release form I signed said
 they could kill any animal testing positive for FeLV or
 FIV.  I explained to
 the vet I would sanctuary them if they tested positive in
 my garage/cat
 enclosure.  She checked with her supervisor and told
 me no exceptions.  I
 should have left then but both of mine seemed
 healthy.  When I went to pick
 them up I found out they had killed both Smoky Jo and
 Butterball!! I am
 devastated.
 
 PETA has a real problem with feral cats. The only way
 they'll let their van
 spay/neuter ferals is if all who test positive for FeLV or
 FIV are killed.
 PETA's way of exterminating ferals I guess.
 
 Smoky Jo tested positive for FeLV and Butterball for FIV.
 What really burns
 me is the SNAP test used is not 100% for FeLV. Don't know
 about FIV.  But
 FIV is generally spread by deep bites.  Once
 Butterball was fixed he
 wouldn't be fighting anymore.  Just PETA's way of
 'thinning the herd' I
 guess.  Then they kept my money.
 
 Needless to say I won't be going back unless I find a way
 around the PETA
 policy. The Spay the Shore guy is going to try and find a
 vet to pre-test
 any future ferals I trap. Then if they are positive for
 either I'll have to
 find some other way to have them fixed.
 
 I'm broken hearted. Those two kitties trusted me to do
 right by them.
 Neither was ill. And now they are gone. It rained all the
 way home. Almost
 like the heavens were crying with me for them. 
 
 Please consider what PETA stands for before donating any
 money to them.
 Sharyl
  
 
 
       
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-03 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Oh, Sharyl! This is just so sad and pointless. But a really hard learning
experience, I guess, about PETA's practices. I know Butterball and Smoky Jo
know you were trying to help them. Gentle Bridge vibes to both of them, and
solace to you. I'm grieving with you.

Diane R. 



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Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

2009-12-03 Thread janine paton
Is it just me, or does anyone else think maybe PETA killed these cats 
regardless of their test results.  In other words, is it possible the cats 
didn't test positive for anything but feral, so was an excuse to kill them?  
Sharyl, I am so very sorry.  

Janine 







From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, December 3, 2009 7:51:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] I Hate PETA

Oh, Sharyl! This is just so sad and pointless. But a really hard learning
experience, I guess, about PETA's practices. I know Butterball and Smoky Jo
know you were trying to help them. Gentle Bridge vibes to both of them, and
solace to you. I'm grieving with you.

Diane R. 



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