Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-13 Thread Sharyl
Paola, I mix my positive with my negatives in my home.  I have had a total of 8 
positives inside with my negatives over the last 3 yrs.  All except 1 have 
crossed the Rainbow Bridge.  My negatives are kept current on their FeLV 
vaccine.  Each cat there own food plate but they don't always eat from their 
own plate.  All my negative cats were adults when I started mixing.  It is my 
understanding that kittens are more susceptible than adult cats.

It is an individual decision each of us makes.  I choose to mix and make the 
time my positives had as enjoyable for them as possible.
Sharyl  

--- On Tue, 7/13/10, paola cresti iend...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: paola cresti iend...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 12:17 AM
 a question, I saw posts from 2 people
 having FeLV+ cats in the house with non 
 affected cats. How do you gys manage that?
 I just rescued a stray that turned out to be incredibly
 sweet and FeLV+ but I 
 have 6 others that are indoor/outdoor  so they are all
 vaccinated for FeLV but 
 since it's not 100% I am keeping rescue kitty in the garage
 and hoping to find 
 someone with a closed household willing to take him as a
 sole cat or an 
 additional cat to a household with another FeLV+ cat. 
 Having no luck so far 
 (found a possible person with 2 infected cats in NY but I'm
 in Los Angeles) 
 
 
 I'm looking into what I must do if I keep him and for this
 I also joined this 
 listserv. Do you have them mingle? I figure food dishes
 should definitely be 
 kept separate. My cats are indoor/outdoor and I caught a
 feral last year who was 
 also FeLV+ so I'm thinking it's been going around and if
 they were likely to 
 catch it they might have already done so?
 
 I know it's not an exact science but this cat's desperate
 about being left alone 
 in a room, I sit with him for a while but when I leave he
 cries for a really 
 long time.
 
 Sorry for the long post.
 thanks
 Paola
 
 
 
 
 
 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 4:48:52 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
 
 We are a huge shelter with cats mingling in rooms. I guess
 if you could hold 
 each cat for 6 months  retest before introducing them
 to other cats you may be 
 safe, but I don't see how any shelter could take that
 chance.
 While we require our adopted cats to be indoor only,
 someone could rescue a cat 
 from outside  introduce it without testing. Most
 people don't know enough about 
 FeLV to understand what risks they can put their cats
 through. I vaccinate mine 
 because I have FeLV cats in the house. 
 
 Beth
 Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter!
 www.Furkids.org   
 
 --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 wrote:
 
 From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 3:51 PM
 
 I am curious about vaccinating them. I usually leave that
 up to the
 adopter...my vet recommends agst the vaccine unless the cat
 is going to go
 outside. I have not vaccinated my last cat and won't
 vaccinate the one I am
 bringing home today.
 My others were vaccinated several times before I
 discontinued FeLV
 vaccinations. I test twice before introducing them and that
 makes me
 comfortable with introducing them. (Mine are all negative -
 things might be
 different if I had a FeLV positive living here).
 
 Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if
 the well-being of
 a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are
 small compared to
 the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other
 way. ~ Martin
 Luther King, Jr.
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Heather
 Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:35 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
 
 Really...I got blasted for it by some very fair 
 trusted people!  Be
 interested in hearing what happens with this, first and
 foremost, hope the
 cats recover well.
 
 On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
 wrote:
 
  From a vet to whom I sent the warning:
  Fort Dodge is notorious for questionable vaccine
 products. I will not use
  them - too many problems with them over the years.
 
  L
 
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Natalie
  Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:03 AM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
 
  I'm so glad that all are OK!  I don't trust any
 vaccines - besides, all
  vaccines do not guarantee anything; they are only 80%
 effective according
  to
  my vet.
  I assume that these were healthy cats that were

Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-13 Thread Natalie
Paola,

I trapped a FeLV+ cat outside of our house, obviously someone dumped him
because they knew that I rescue cats. He was alone for 2 years because I
couldn't find anyone who had a FeLV+ cat to take him.  Instead, I decided to
look for a FeLV+ cat to give him a companion - had no luck for the longest
time. Finally, found one in NJ (I'm in CT).  It took them only one night to
bond, it was amazing!  They are the best of friends!  Unfortunately, many
people have their own cats euthanized as soon as they're diagnosedeven
when it's their only cat - I will never understand it. I didn't want to mix
them even with the four FIV+ cats.  They are in separate areas of the house.
I do, however, mix FIV+ cats with my own healthy cats, without vaccinating
them.  I have never yet, had a healthy cat contract FIV, as long as there
are no serious fightsI don't take the chance with FeLV+ cats and healthy
cats because I refuse to vaccinate them needlessly, exposing them to the
side effects.  Being a rescue group, I have to make sure that cats are not
exposed needlessly, especially since they may be adopted into a home with
existing healthy cats.

Unfortunately, too many FIV/FeLV cats are killed and never given a chance
for a good life.  It is, however, easier to find a home for FIV cats than
FeLV 

Have you tried area veterinarians who may know clients with FeLV positive
cats?.

Natalie  

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of paola cresti
Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2010 12:18 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

a question, I saw posts from 2 people having FeLV+ cats in the house with
non 
affected cats. How do you gys manage that?
I just rescued a stray that turned out to be incredibly sweet and FeLV+ but
I 
have 6 others that are indoor/outdoor  so they are all vaccinated for FeLV
but 
since it's not 100% I am keeping rescue kitty in the garage and hoping to
find 
someone with a closed household willing to take him as a sole cat or an 
additional cat to a household with another FeLV+ cat.  Having no luck so far

(found a possible person with 2 infected cats in NY but I'm in Los Angeles) 


I'm looking into what I must do if I keep him and for this I also joined
this 
listserv. Do you have them mingle? I figure food dishes should definitely be

kept separate. My cats are indoor/outdoor and I caught a feral last year who
was 
also FeLV+ so I'm thinking it's been going around and if they were likely to

catch it they might have already done so?

I know it's not an exact science but this cat's desperate about being left
alone 
in a room, I sit with him for a while but when I leave he cries for a really

long time.

Sorry for the long post.
thanks
Paola





From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 4:48:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

We are a huge shelter with cats mingling in rooms. I guess if you could hold

each cat for 6 months  retest before introducing them to other cats you may
be 
safe, but I don't see how any shelter could take that chance.
While we require our adopted cats to be indoor only, someone could rescue a
cat 
from outside  introduce it without testing. Most people don't know enough
about 
FeLV to understand what risks they can put their cats through. I vaccinate
mine 
because I have FeLV cats in the house. 

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:

From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 3:51 PM

I am curious about vaccinating them. I usually leave that up to the
adopter...my vet recommends agst the vaccine unless the cat is going to go
outside. I have not vaccinated my last cat and won't vaccinate the one I am
bringing home today.
My others were vaccinated several times before I discontinued FeLV
vaccinations. I test twice before introducing them and that makes me
comfortable with introducing them. (Mine are all negative - things might be
different if I had a FeLV positive living here).

Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of
a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to
the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way. ~ Martin
Luther King, Jr.


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

Really...I got blasted for it by some very fair  trusted people!  Be
interested in hearing what happens with this, first and foremost, hope the
cats recover well.

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010

Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-13 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I mix positives and negatives also, and don't have problems.  I am  
watchful about kittens though,  but I don't often have kittens.


Gloria



On Jul 13, 2010, at 1:18 AM, Sharyl wrote:

Paola, I mix my positive with my negatives in my home.  I have had a  
total of 8 positives inside with my negatives over the last 3 yrs.   
All except 1 have crossed the Rainbow Bridge.  My negatives are kept  
current on their FeLV vaccine.  Each cat there own food plate but  
they don't always eat from their own plate.  All my negative cats  
were adults when I started mixing.  It is my understanding that  
kittens are more susceptible than adult cats.


It is an individual decision each of us makes.  I choose to mix and  
make the time my positives had as enjoyable for them as possible.

Sharyl

--- On Tue, 7/13/10, paola cresti iend...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: paola cresti iend...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, July 13, 2010, 12:17 AM
a question, I saw posts from 2 people
having FeLV+ cats in the house with non
affected cats. How do you gys manage that?
I just rescued a stray that turned out to be incredibly
sweet and FeLV+ but I
have 6 others that are indoor/outdoor  so they are all
vaccinated for FeLV but
since it's not 100% I am keeping rescue kitty in the garage
and hoping to find
someone with a closed household willing to take him as a
sole cat or an
additional cat to a household with another FeLV+ cat.
Having no luck so far
(found a possible person with 2 infected cats in NY but I'm
in Los Angeles)


I'm looking into what I must do if I keep him and for this
I also joined this
listserv. Do you have them mingle? I figure food dishes
should definitely be
kept separate. My cats are indoor/outdoor and I caught a
feral last year who was
also FeLV+ so I'm thinking it's been going around and if
they were likely to
catch it they might have already done so?

I know it's not an exact science but this cat's desperate
about being left alone
in a room, I sit with him for a while but when I leave he
cries for a really
long time.

Sorry for the long post.
thanks
Paola





From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 4:48:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

We are a huge shelter with cats mingling in rooms. I guess
if you could hold
each cat for 6 months  retest before introducing them
to other cats you may be
safe, but I don't see how any shelter could take that
chance.
While we require our adopted cats to be indoor only,
someone could rescue a cat
from outside  introduce it without testing. Most
people don't know enough about
FeLV to understand what risks they can put their cats
through. I vaccinate mine
because I have FeLV cats in the house.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter!
www.Furkids.org

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
wrote:

From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 3:51 PM

I am curious about vaccinating them. I usually leave that
up to the
adopter...my vet recommends agst the vaccine unless the cat
is going to go
outside. I have not vaccinated my last cat and won't
vaccinate the one I am
bringing home today.
My others were vaccinated several times before I
discontinued FeLV
vaccinations. I test twice before introducing them and that
makes me
comfortable with introducing them. (Mine are all negative -
things might be
different if I had a FeLV positive living here).

Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if
the well-being of
a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are
small compared to
the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other
way. ~ Martin
Luther King, Jr.


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
On Behalf Of Heather
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

Really...I got blasted for it by some very fair 
trusted people!  Be
interested in hearing what happens with this, first and
foremost, hope the
cats recover well.

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
wrote:


From a vet to whom I sent the warning:

Fort Dodge is notorious for questionable vaccine

products. I will not use

them - too many problems with them over the years.

L


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]

On Behalf Of Natalie

Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:03 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

I'm so glad that all are OK!  I don't trust any

vaccines - besides, all

vaccines do not guarantee anything; they are only 80%

effective according

to
my vet.
I assume

Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread Beth
I work with Furkids. My best friend  her family stayed there until 1am giving 
fluids  taking temps. Luckily we didn't lose any of the kitties. What's worse 
the cats were testing positive for FeLV when they were retested.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:24 AM

PLEASE CROSS POST

Forwarded Message:

Received this warning from Furkids Rescue:

 

Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 3:43 PM

 

Dear Colleagues,

Furkids had an experience this week with Fort Dodge Leukemia vaccines that
we want to share with you in hopes that no one else has this happen to their
animals.

On July 7, we vaccinated 20 cats with Fort Dodge's Fel-O-Vax-Lv-K vaccine
(167346B, exp. 2/20/11).

ALL 20 cats spiked high temperatures within a few hours of receiving the
vaccine. We recorded temps over 105. We had to send six cats to emergency
(one with seizures). We administered fluids and metacam and benadryl.
Thankfully, the cats seem to be rebounding today. In our eight years, we
have never seen anything like this. 

Fort Dodge has offered no explanation. We will no longer be using the Fort
Dodge products and wanted to pass along our experience with their vaccine in
case any of you have the same lot. If you do, you should contact your rep
and return them immediately.



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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread Natalie
I'm so glad that all are OK!  I don't trust any vaccines - besides, all
vaccines do not guarantee anything; they are only 80% effective according to
my vet.
I assume that these were healthy cats that were vaccinatedwhy are they
being vaccinated?  Will they be living with FeLV+ cats, outside in a colony
or adopted and allowed outside?  Cats were tested, were negative, then
retested and were positive - was that after vaccines? I think I'm missing
something here. Sorry - Natalie
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

I work with Furkids. My best friend  her family stayed there until 1am
giving fluids  taking temps. Luckily we didn't lose any of the kitties.
What's worse the cats were testing positive for FeLV when they were
retested.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:24 AM

PLEASE CROSS POST

Forwarded Message:

Received this warning from Furkids Rescue:

 

Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 3:43 PM

 

Dear Colleagues,

Furkids had an experience this week with Fort Dodge Leukemia vaccines that
we want to share with you in hopes that no one else has this happen to their
animals.

On July 7, we vaccinated 20 cats with Fort Dodge's Fel-O-Vax-Lv-K vaccine
(167346B, exp. 2/20/11).

ALL 20 cats spiked high temperatures within a few hours of receiving the
vaccine. We recorded temps over 105. We had to send six cats to emergency
(one with seizures). We administered fluids and metacam and benadryl.
Thankfully, the cats seem to be rebounding today. In our eight years, we
have never seen anything like this. 

Fort Dodge has offered no explanation. We will no longer be using the Fort
Dodge products and wanted to pass along our experience with their vaccine in
case any of you have the same lot. If you do, you should contact your rep
and return them immediately.



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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread gary
If you still have some of that vaccine, don't throw it away, it needs to be 
tested.  I do not see how a supposedly killed virus vaccine would cause a 
positive on a restest.


Gary

--
From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 8:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

I work with Furkids. My best friend  her family stayed there until 1am 
giving fluids  taking temps. Luckily we didn't lose any of the kitties. 
What's worse the cats were testing positive for FeLV when they were 
retested.


Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:24 AM

PLEASE CROSS POST

Forwarded Message:

Received this warning from Furkids Rescue:



Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 3:43 PM



Dear Colleagues,

Furkids had an experience this week with Fort Dodge Leukemia vaccines that
we want to share with you in hopes that no one else has this happen to 
their

animals.

On July 7, we vaccinated 20 cats with Fort Dodge's Fel-O-Vax-Lv-K vaccine
(167346B, exp. 2/20/11).

ALL 20 cats spiked high temperatures within a few hours of receiving the
vaccine. We recorded temps over 105. We had to send six cats to emergency
(one with seizures). We administered fluids and metacam and benadryl.
Thankfully, the cats seem to be rebounding today. In our eight years, we
have never seen anything like this.

Fort Dodge has offered no explanation. We will no longer be using the Fort
Dodge products and wanted to pass along our experience with their vaccine 
in

case any of you have the same lot. If you do, you should contact your rep
and return them immediately.




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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread Laurieskatz
From a vet to whom I sent the warning:
Fort Dodge is notorious for questionable vaccine products. I will not use
them - too many problems with them over the years.

L


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:03 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

I'm so glad that all are OK!  I don't trust any vaccines - besides, all
vaccines do not guarantee anything; they are only 80% effective according to
my vet.
I assume that these were healthy cats that were vaccinatedwhy are they
being vaccinated?  Will they be living with FeLV+ cats, outside in a colony
or adopted and allowed outside?  Cats were tested, were negative, then
retested and were positive - was that after vaccines? I think I'm missing
something here. Sorry - Natalie
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

I work with Furkids. My best friend  her family stayed there until 1am
giving fluids  taking temps. Luckily we didn't lose any of the kitties.
What's worse the cats were testing positive for FeLV when they were
retested.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:24 AM

PLEASE CROSS POST

Forwarded Message:

Received this warning from Furkids Rescue:

 

Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 3:43 PM

 

Dear Colleagues,

Furkids had an experience this week with Fort Dodge Leukemia vaccines that
we want to share with you in hopes that no one else has this happen to their
animals.

On July 7, we vaccinated 20 cats with Fort Dodge's Fel-O-Vax-Lv-K vaccine
(167346B, exp. 2/20/11).

ALL 20 cats spiked high temperatures within a few hours of receiving the
vaccine. We recorded temps over 105. We had to send six cats to emergency
(one with seizures). We administered fluids and metacam and benadryl.
Thankfully, the cats seem to be rebounding today. In our eight years, we
have never seen anything like this. 

Fort Dodge has offered no explanation. We will no longer be using the Fort
Dodge products and wanted to pass along our experience with their vaccine in
case any of you have the same lot. If you do, you should contact your rep
and return them immediately.



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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread Beth
These were healthy cats who were to be going to Petsmart locations or to be 
adopted from our cage-free shelter. We vaccinate all cats being put up for 
adoption.
Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 10:03 AM

I'm so glad that all are OK!  I don't trust any vaccines - besides, all
vaccines do not guarantee anything; they are only 80% effective according to
my vet.
I assume that these were healthy cats that were vaccinatedwhy are they
being vaccinated?  Will they be living with FeLV+ cats, outside in a colony
or adopted and allowed outside?  Cats were tested, were negative, then
retested and were positive - was that after vaccines? I think I'm missing
something here. Sorry - Natalie
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

I work with Furkids. My best friend  her family stayed there until 1am
giving fluids  taking temps. Luckily we didn't lose any of the kitties.
What's worse the cats were testing positive for FeLV when they were
retested.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:24 AM

PLEASE CROSS POST

Forwarded Message:

Received this warning from Furkids Rescue:

 

Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 3:43 PM

 

Dear Colleagues,

Furkids had an experience this week with Fort Dodge Leukemia vaccines that
we want to share with you in hopes that no one else has this happen to their
animals.

On July 7, we vaccinated 20 cats with Fort Dodge's Fel-O-Vax-Lv-K vaccine
(167346B, exp. 2/20/11).

ALL 20 cats spiked high temperatures within a few hours of receiving the
vaccine. We recorded temps over 105. We had to send six cats to emergency
(one with seizures). We administered fluids and metacam and benadryl.
Thankfully, the cats seem to be rebounding today. In our eight years, we
have never seen anything like this. 

Fort Dodge has offered no explanation. We will no longer be using the Fort
Dodge products and wanted to pass along our experience with their vaccine in
case any of you have the same lot. If you do, you should contact your rep
and return them immediately.



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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread Laurieskatz
I think they do test positive after being vaccinated.

Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of
a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to
the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way. ~ Martin
Luther King, Jr.


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:05 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

These were healthy cats who were to be going to Petsmart locations or to be
adopted from our cage-free shelter. We vaccinate all cats being put up for
adoption.
Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 10:03 AM

I'm so glad that all are OK!  I don't trust any vaccines - besides, all
vaccines do not guarantee anything; they are only 80% effective according to
my vet.
I assume that these were healthy cats that were vaccinatedwhy are they
being vaccinated?  Will they be living with FeLV+ cats, outside in a colony
or adopted and allowed outside?  Cats were tested, were negative, then
retested and were positive - was that after vaccines? I think I'm missing
something here. Sorry - Natalie
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

I work with Furkids. My best friend  her family stayed there until 1am
giving fluids  taking temps. Luckily we didn't lose any of the kitties.
What's worse the cats were testing positive for FeLV when they were
retested.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:24 AM

PLEASE CROSS POST

Forwarded Message:

Received this warning from Furkids Rescue:

 

Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 3:43 PM

 

Dear Colleagues,

Furkids had an experience this week with Fort Dodge Leukemia vaccines that
we want to share with you in hopes that no one else has this happen to their
animals.

On July 7, we vaccinated 20 cats with Fort Dodge's Fel-O-Vax-Lv-K vaccine
(167346B, exp. 2/20/11).

ALL 20 cats spiked high temperatures within a few hours of receiving the
vaccine. We recorded temps over 105. We had to send six cats to emergency
(one with seizures). We administered fluids and metacam and benadryl.
Thankfully, the cats seem to be rebounding today. In our eight years, we
have never seen anything like this. 

Fort Dodge has offered no explanation. We will no longer be using the Fort
Dodge products and wanted to pass along our experience with their vaccine in
case any of you have the same lot. If you do, you should contact your rep
and return them immediately.



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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread gary
No, not when vaccinated for Feline Leukemia, the one that causes positive 
tests after vaccination is for FIV.  I have never heard of a cat testing 
positive for Feline Leukemia because it was vaccinated for it.


Gary

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From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING


I think they do test positive after being vaccinated.

Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being 
of
a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared 
to

the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way. ~ Martin
Luther King, Jr.


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:05 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

These were healthy cats who were to be going to Petsmart locations or to 
be

adopted from our cage-free shelter. We vaccinate all cats being put up for
adoption.
Beth
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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread Sharyl
Thanks for the warning.  My house kitties get annual FeLV boosters since I have 
an indoor positive kitty.

Just a comment about the treatment given the sick kittens.  Please avoid using 
Metacam as a pain med for cats.  A single oral dose of Metacam can cause acute 
kidney failure in approx. 30% of cats.  A better choice for a pain med would be 
Buprenorphine.  Here is a link to more info on Buprenorphine.
http://www.petplace.com/drug-library/buprenorphine-buprenex/page1.aspx

Please monitor these kittens for signs of acute renal failure.
Sharyl 

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Subject: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:24 AM
 PLEASE CROSS POST
 
 Forwarded Message:
 
 Received this warning from Furkids Rescue:
 
  
 
 Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 3:43 PM
 
  
 
 Dear Colleagues,
 
 Furkids had an experience this week with Fort Dodge
 Leukemia vaccines that
 we want to share with you in hopes that no one else has
 this happen to their
 animals.
 
 On July 7, we vaccinated 20 cats with Fort Dodge's
 Fel-O-Vax-Lv-K vaccine
 (167346B, exp. 2/20/11).
 
 ALL 20 cats spiked high temperatures within a few hours of
 receiving the
 vaccine. We recorded temps over 105. We had to send six
 cats to emergency
 (one with seizures). We administered fluids and metacam and
 benadryl.
 Thankfully, the cats seem to be rebounding today. In our
 eight years, we
 have never seen anything like this. 
 
 Fort Dodge has offered no explanation. We will no longer be
 using the Fort
 Dodge products and wanted to pass along our experience with
 their vaccine in
 case any of you have the same lot. If you do, you should
 contact your rep
 and return them immediately.
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread Beth
They are going to have it independently tested.

Beth
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--- On Mon, 7/12/10, gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote:

From: gary gcru...@centurytel.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 10:04 AM

If you still have some of that vaccine, don't throw it away, it needs to be 
tested.  I do not see how a supposedly killed virus vaccine would cause a 
positive on a restest.

Gary

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From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 8:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

 I work with Furkids. My best friend  her family stayed there until 1am 
 giving fluids  taking temps. Luckily we didn't lose any of the kitties. 
 What's worse the cats were testing positive for FeLV when they were retested.
 
 Beth
 Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 
 --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
 
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Subject: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:24 AM
 
 PLEASE CROSS POST
 
 Forwarded Message:
 
 Received this warning from Furkids Rescue:
 
 
 
 Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 3:43 PM
 
 
 
 Dear Colleagues,
 
 Furkids had an experience this week with Fort Dodge Leukemia vaccines that
 we want to share with you in hopes that no one else has this happen to their
 animals.
 
 On July 7, we vaccinated 20 cats with Fort Dodge's Fel-O-Vax-Lv-K vaccine
 (167346B, exp. 2/20/11).
 
 ALL 20 cats spiked high temperatures within a few hours of receiving the
 vaccine. We recorded temps over 105. We had to send six cats to emergency
 (one with seizures). We administered fluids and metacam and benadryl.
 Thankfully, the cats seem to be rebounding today. In our eight years, we
 have never seen anything like this.
 
 Fort Dodge has offered no explanation. We will no longer be using the Fort
 Dodge products and wanted to pass along our experience with their vaccine in
 case any of you have the same lot. If you do, you should contact your rep
 and return them immediately.



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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread Beth
I'm not aware of any of the cats being given Metacam. Metacam has to be very 
precisely dosed  not given for extended periods of time. I've used it many 
times with no problems.

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--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 1:09 PM

Thanks for the warning.  My house kitties get annual FeLV boosters since I have 
an indoor positive kitty.

Just a comment about the treatment given the sick kittens.  Please avoid using 
Metacam as a pain med for cats.  A single oral dose of Metacam can cause acute 
kidney failure in approx. 30% of cats.  A better choice for a pain med would be 
Buprenorphine.  Here is a link to more info on Buprenorphine.
http://www.petplace.com/drug-library/buprenorphine-buprenex/page1.aspx

Please monitor these kittens for signs of acute renal failure.
Sharyl 

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Subject: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:24 AM
 PLEASE CROSS POST
 
 Forwarded Message:
 
 Received this warning from Furkids Rescue:
 
  
 
 Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 3:43 PM
 
  
 
 Dear Colleagues,
 
 Furkids had an experience this week with Fort Dodge
 Leukemia vaccines that
 we want to share with you in hopes that no one else has
 this happen to their
 animals.
 
 On July 7, we vaccinated 20 cats with Fort Dodge's
 Fel-O-Vax-Lv-K vaccine
 (167346B, exp. 2/20/11).
 
 ALL 20 cats spiked high temperatures within a few hours of
 receiving the
 vaccine. We recorded temps over 105. We had to send six
 cats to emergency
 (one with seizures). We administered fluids and metacam and
 benadryl.
 Thankfully, the cats seem to be rebounding today. In our
 eight years, we
 have never seen anything like this. 
 
 Fort Dodge has offered no explanation. We will no longer be
 using the Fort
 Dodge products and wanted to pass along our experience with
 their vaccine in
 case any of you have the same lot. If you do, you should
 contact your rep
 and return them immediately.
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread Laurieskatz
Oh. Okay. Thanks, Gary.

Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of
a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to
the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way. ~ Martin
Luther King, Jr.


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:49 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

No, not when vaccinated for Feline Leukemia, the one that causes positive 
tests after vaccination is for FIV.  I have never heard of a cat testing 
positive for Feline Leukemia because it was vaccinated for it.

Gary

--
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Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

 I think they do test positive after being vaccinated.

 Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being 
 of
 a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared 
 to
 the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way. ~ Martin
 Luther King, Jr.


 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
 Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:05 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

 These were healthy cats who were to be going to Petsmart locations or to 
 be
 adopted from our cage-free shelter. We vaccinate all cats being put up for
 adoption.
 Beth
 Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread Natalie
No, it's the FIV vaccine, not FeLV vaccine, after which cats will always
test positive for FIV!!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Laurieskatz
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 12:08 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

I think they do test positive after being vaccinated.

Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of
a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to
the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way. ~ Martin
Luther King, Jr.


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 11:05 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

These were healthy cats who were to be going to Petsmart locations or to be
adopted from our cage-free shelter. We vaccinate all cats being put up for
adoption.
Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 10:03 AM

I'm so glad that all are OK!  I don't trust any vaccines - besides, all
vaccines do not guarantee anything; they are only 80% effective according to
my vet.
I assume that these were healthy cats that were vaccinatedwhy are they
being vaccinated?  Will they be living with FeLV+ cats, outside in a colony
or adopted and allowed outside?  Cats were tested, were negative, then
retested and were positive - was that after vaccines? I think I'm missing
something here. Sorry - Natalie
-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:39 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

I work with Furkids. My best friend  her family stayed there until 1am
giving fluids  taking temps. Luckily we didn't lose any of the kitties.
What's worse the cats were testing positive for FeLV when they were
retested.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
Subject: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:24 AM

PLEASE CROSS POST

Forwarded Message:

Received this warning from Furkids Rescue:

 

Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 3:43 PM

 

Dear Colleagues,

Furkids had an experience this week with Fort Dodge Leukemia vaccines that
we want to share with you in hopes that no one else has this happen to their
animals.

On July 7, we vaccinated 20 cats with Fort Dodge's Fel-O-Vax-Lv-K vaccine
(167346B, exp. 2/20/11).

ALL 20 cats spiked high temperatures within a few hours of receiving the
vaccine. We recorded temps over 105. We had to send six cats to emergency
(one with seizures). We administered fluids and metacam and benadryl.
Thankfully, the cats seem to be rebounding today. In our eight years, we
have never seen anything like this. 

Fort Dodge has offered no explanation. We will no longer be using the Fort
Dodge products and wanted to pass along our experience with their vaccine in
case any of you have the same lot. If you do, you should contact your rep
and return them immediately.



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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread Heather
Really...I got blasted for it by some very fair  trusted people!  Be
interested in hearing what happens with this, first and foremost, hope the
cats recover well.

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:

 From a vet to whom I sent the warning:
 Fort Dodge is notorious for questionable vaccine products. I will not use
 them - too many problems with them over the years.

 L


 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
 Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:03 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

 I'm so glad that all are OK!  I don't trust any vaccines - besides, all
 vaccines do not guarantee anything; they are only 80% effective according
 to
 my vet.
 I assume that these were healthy cats that were vaccinatedwhy are they
 being vaccinated?  Will they be living with FeLV+ cats, outside in a colony
 or adopted and allowed outside?  Cats were tested, were negative, then
 retested and were positive - was that after vaccines? I think I'm missing
 something here. Sorry - Natalie
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
 Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:39 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

 I work with Furkids. My best friend  her family stayed there until 1am
 giving fluids  taking temps. Luckily we didn't lose any of the kitties.
 What's worse the cats were testing positive for FeLV when they were
 retested.

 Beth
 Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/

 --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Subject: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:24 AM

 PLEASE CROSS POST

 Forwarded Message:

 Received this warning from Furkids Rescue:



 Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 3:43 PM



 Dear Colleagues,

 Furkids had an experience this week with Fort Dodge Leukemia vaccines that
 we want to share with you in hopes that no one else has this happen to
 their
 animals.

 On July 7, we vaccinated 20 cats with Fort Dodge's Fel-O-Vax-Lv-K vaccine
 (167346B, exp. 2/20/11).

 ALL 20 cats spiked high temperatures within a few hours of receiving the
 vaccine. We recorded temps over 105. We had to send six cats to emergency
 (one with seizures). We administered fluids and metacam and benadryl.
 Thankfully, the cats seem to be rebounding today. In our eight years, we
 have never seen anything like this.

 Fort Dodge has offered no explanation. We will no longer be using the Fort
 Dodge products and wanted to pass along our experience with their vaccine
 in
 case any of you have the same lot. If you do, you should contact your rep
 and return them immediately.



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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread Laurieskatz
I am curious about vaccinating them. I usually leave that up to the
adopter...my vet recommends agst the vaccine unless the cat is going to go
outside. I have not vaccinated my last cat and won't vaccinate the one I am
bringing home today.
My others were vaccinated several times before I discontinued FeLV
vaccinations. I test twice before introducing them and that makes me
comfortable with introducing them. (Mine are all negative - things might be
different if I had a FeLV positive living here).

Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of
a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to
the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way. ~ Martin
Luther King, Jr.


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

Really...I got blasted for it by some very fair  trusted people!  Be
interested in hearing what happens with this, first and foremost, hope the
cats recover well.

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:

 From a vet to whom I sent the warning:
 Fort Dodge is notorious for questionable vaccine products. I will not use
 them - too many problems with them over the years.

 L


 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
 Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:03 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

 I'm so glad that all are OK!  I don't trust any vaccines - besides, all
 vaccines do not guarantee anything; they are only 80% effective according
 to
 my vet.
 I assume that these were healthy cats that were vaccinatedwhy are they
 being vaccinated?  Will they be living with FeLV+ cats, outside in a
colony
 or adopted and allowed outside?  Cats were tested, were negative, then
 retested and were positive - was that after vaccines? I think I'm missing
 something here. Sorry - Natalie
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
 Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:39 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

 I work with Furkids. My best friend  her family stayed there until 1am
 giving fluids  taking temps. Luckily we didn't lose any of the kitties.
 What's worse the cats were testing positive for FeLV when they were
 retested.

 Beth
 Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/

 --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Subject: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:24 AM

 PLEASE CROSS POST

 Forwarded Message:

 Received this warning from Furkids Rescue:



 Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 3:43 PM



 Dear Colleagues,

 Furkids had an experience this week with Fort Dodge Leukemia vaccines that
 we want to share with you in hopes that no one else has this happen to
 their
 animals.

 On July 7, we vaccinated 20 cats with Fort Dodge's Fel-O-Vax-Lv-K vaccine
 (167346B, exp. 2/20/11).

 ALL 20 cats spiked high temperatures within a few hours of receiving the
 vaccine. We recorded temps over 105. We had to send six cats to emergency
 (one with seizures). We administered fluids and metacam and benadryl.
 Thankfully, the cats seem to be rebounding today. In our eight years, we
 have never seen anything like this.

 Fort Dodge has offered no explanation. We will no longer be using the Fort
 Dodge products and wanted to pass along our experience with their vaccine
 in
 case any of you have the same lot. If you do, you should contact your rep
 and return them immediately.



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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread Sharyl
I was commenting based on this statement
'.We administered fluids and metacam and benadryl.'

Sharyl

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 2:03 PM
 I'm not aware of any of the cats
 being given Metacam. Metacam has to be very precisely dosed
  not given for extended periods of time. I've used it
 many times with no problems.
 
 Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   
 
 --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 1:09 PM
 
 Thanks for the warning.  My house kitties get annual FeLV
 boosters since I have an indoor positive kitty.
 
 Just a comment about the treatment given the sick
 kittens.  Please avoid using Metacam as a pain med for
 cats.  A single oral dose of Metacam can cause acute kidney
 failure in approx. 30% of cats.  A better choice for a pain
 med would be Buprenorphine.  Here is a link to more info on
 Buprenorphine.
 http://www.petplace.com/drug-library/buprenorphine-buprenex/page1.aspx
 
 Please monitor these kittens for signs of acute renal
 failure.
 Sharyl 
 
 --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net
 wrote:
 
  From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
  Subject: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:24 AM
  PLEASE CROSS POST
  
  Forwarded Message:
  
  Received this warning from Furkids Rescue:
  
   
  
  Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 3:43 PM
  
   
  
  Dear Colleagues,
  
  Furkids had an experience this week with Fort Dodge
  Leukemia vaccines that
  we want to share with you in hopes that no one else
 has
  this happen to their
  animals.
  
  On July 7, we vaccinated 20 cats with Fort Dodge's
  Fel-O-Vax-Lv-K vaccine
  (167346B, exp. 2/20/11).
  
  ALL 20 cats spiked high temperatures within a few
 hours of
  receiving the
  vaccine. We recorded temps over 105. We had to send
 six
  cats to emergency
  (one with seizures). We administered fluids and
 metacam and
  benadryl.
  Thankfully, the cats seem to be rebounding today. In
 our
  eight years, we
  have never seen anything like this. 
  
  Fort Dodge has offered no explanation. We will no
 longer be
  using the Fort
  Dodge products and wanted to pass along our experience
 with
  their vaccine in
  case any of you have the same lot. If you do, you
 should
  contact your rep
  and return them immediately.
  
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread Beth
They may have. They have a Dr. on call  they did what he told them to do. I've 
never had a problem with Metacam, but there are side affects  problems with 
all medications.

Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:

From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 4:15 PM

I was commenting based on this statement
'.We administered fluids and metacam and benadryl.'

Sharyl

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 2:03 PM
 I'm not aware of any of the cats
 being given Metacam. Metacam has to be very precisely dosed
  not given for extended periods of time. I've used it
 many times with no problems.
 
 Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   
 
 --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
 wrote:
 
 From: Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 1:09 PM
 
 Thanks for the warning.  My house kitties get annual FeLV
 boosters since I have an indoor positive kitty.
 
 Just a comment about the treatment given the sick
 kittens.  Please avoid using Metacam as a pain med for
 cats.  A single oral dose of Metacam can cause acute kidney
 failure in approx. 30% of cats.  A better choice for a pain
 med would be Buprenorphine.  Here is a link to more info on
 Buprenorphine.
 http://www.petplace.com/drug-library/buprenorphine-buprenex/page1.aspx
 
 Please monitor these kittens for signs of acute renal
 failure.
 Sharyl 
 
 --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net
 wrote:
 
  From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
  Subject: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:24 AM
  PLEASE CROSS POST
  
  Forwarded Message:
  
  Received this warning from Furkids Rescue:
  
   
  
  Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 3:43 PM
  
   
  
  Dear Colleagues,
  
  Furkids had an experience this week with Fort Dodge
  Leukemia vaccines that
  we want to share with you in hopes that no one else
 has
  this happen to their
  animals.
  
  On July 7, we vaccinated 20 cats with Fort Dodge's
  Fel-O-Vax-Lv-K vaccine
  (167346B, exp. 2/20/11).
  
  ALL 20 cats spiked high temperatures within a few
 hours of
  receiving the
  vaccine. We recorded temps over 105. We had to send
 six
  cats to emergency
  (one with seizures). We administered fluids and
 metacam and
  benadryl.
  Thankfully, the cats seem to be rebounding today. In
 our
  eight years, we
  have never seen anything like this. 
  
  Fort Dodge has offered no explanation. We will no
 longer be
  using the Fort
  Dodge products and wanted to pass along our experience
 with
  their vaccine in
  case any of you have the same lot. If you do, you
 should
  contact your rep
  and return them immediately.
  
  
  
  ___
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  Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
  
 
 
       
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread Beth
We are a huge shelter with cats mingling in rooms. I guess if you could hold 
each cat for 6 months  retest before introducing them to other cats you may be 
safe, but I don't see how any shelter could take that chance.
While we require our adopted cats to be indoor only, someone could rescue a cat 
from outside  introduce it without testing. Most people don't know enough 
about FeLV to understand what risks they can put their cats through. I 
vaccinate mine because I have FeLV cats in the house. 
Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:

From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 3:51 PM

I am curious about vaccinating them. I usually leave that up to the
adopter...my vet recommends agst the vaccine unless the cat is going to go
outside. I have not vaccinated my last cat and won't vaccinate the one I am
bringing home today.
My others were vaccinated several times before I discontinued FeLV
vaccinations. I test twice before introducing them and that makes me
comfortable with introducing them. (Mine are all negative - things might be
different if I had a FeLV positive living here).

Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of
a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to
the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way. ~ Martin
Luther King, Jr.


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

Really...I got blasted for it by some very fair  trusted people!  Be
interested in hearing what happens with this, first and foremost, hope the
cats recover well.

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:

 From a vet to whom I sent the warning:
 Fort Dodge is notorious for questionable vaccine products. I will not use
 them - too many problems with them over the years.

 L


 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
 Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:03 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

 I'm so glad that all are OK!  I don't trust any vaccines - besides, all
 vaccines do not guarantee anything; they are only 80% effective according
 to
 my vet.
 I assume that these were healthy cats that were vaccinatedwhy are they
 being vaccinated?  Will they be living with FeLV+ cats, outside in a
colony
 or adopted and allowed outside?  Cats were tested, were negative, then
 retested and were positive - was that after vaccines? I think I'm missing
 something here. Sorry - Natalie
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
 Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:39 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

 I work with Furkids. My best friend  her family stayed there until 1am
 giving fluids  taking temps. Luckily we didn't lose any of the kitties.
 What's worse the cats were testing positive for FeLV when they were
 retested.

 Beth
 Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/

 --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Subject: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 9:24 AM

 PLEASE CROSS POST

 Forwarded Message:

 Received this warning from Furkids Rescue:



 Date: Sunday, July 11, 2010, 3:43 PM



 Dear Colleagues,

 Furkids had an experience this week with Fort Dodge Leukemia vaccines that
 we want to share with you in hopes that no one else has this happen to
 their
 animals.

 On July 7, we vaccinated 20 cats with Fort Dodge's Fel-O-Vax-Lv-K vaccine
 (167346B, exp. 2/20/11).

 ALL 20 cats spiked high temperatures within a few hours of receiving the
 vaccine. We recorded temps over 105. We had to send six cats to emergency
 (one with seizures). We administered fluids and metacam and benadryl.
 Thankfully, the cats seem to be rebounding today. In our eight years, we
 have never seen anything like this.

 Fort Dodge has offered no explanation. We will no longer be using the Fort
 Dodge products and wanted to pass along our experience with their vaccine
 in
 case any of you have the same lot. If you do, you should contact your rep
 and return them immediately.



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Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

2010-07-12 Thread paola cresti
a question, I saw posts from 2 people having FeLV+ cats in the house with non 
affected cats. How do you gys manage that?
I just rescued a stray that turned out to be incredibly sweet and FeLV+ but I 
have 6 others that are indoor/outdoor  so they are all vaccinated for FeLV but 
since it's not 100% I am keeping rescue kitty in the garage and hoping to find 
someone with a closed household willing to take him as a sole cat or an 
additional cat to a household with another FeLV+ cat.  Having no luck so far 
(found a possible person with 2 infected cats in NY but I'm in Los Angeles) 


I'm looking into what I must do if I keep him and for this I also joined this 
listserv. Do you have them mingle? I figure food dishes should definitely be 
kept separate. My cats are indoor/outdoor and I caught a feral last year who 
was 
also FeLV+ so I'm thinking it's been going around and if they were likely to 
catch it they might have already done so?

I know it's not an exact science but this cat's desperate about being left 
alone 
in a room, I sit with him for a while but when I leave he cries for a really 
long time.

Sorry for the long post.
thanks
Paola





From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, July 12, 2010 4:48:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

We are a huge shelter with cats mingling in rooms. I guess if you could hold 
each cat for 6 months  retest before introducing them to other cats you may be 
safe, but I don't see how any shelter could take that chance.
While we require our adopted cats to be indoor only, someone could rescue a cat 
from outside  introduce it without testing. Most people don't know enough 
about 
FeLV to understand what risks they can put their cats through. I vaccinate mine 
because I have FeLV cats in the house. 

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Mon, 7/12/10, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:

From: Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, July 12, 2010, 3:51 PM

I am curious about vaccinating them. I usually leave that up to the
adopter...my vet recommends agst the vaccine unless the cat is going to go
outside. I have not vaccinated my last cat and won't vaccinate the one I am
bringing home today.
My others were vaccinated several times before I discontinued FeLV
vaccinations. I test twice before introducing them and that makes me
comfortable with introducing them. (Mine are all negative - things might be
different if I had a FeLV positive living here).

Never, never be afraid to do what's right, especially if the well-being of
a person or animal is at stake. Society's punishments are small compared to
the wounds we inflict on our soul when we look the other way. ~ Martin
Luther King, Jr.


-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather
Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 2:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

Really...I got blasted for it by some very fair  trusted people!  Be
interested in hearing what happens with this, first and foremost, hope the
cats recover well.

On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:12 AM, Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote:

 From a vet to whom I sent the warning:
 Fort Dodge is notorious for questionable vaccine products. I will not use
 them - too many problems with them over the years.

 L


 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
 Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:03 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

 I'm so glad that all are OK!  I don't trust any vaccines - besides, all
 vaccines do not guarantee anything; they are only 80% effective according
 to
 my vet.
 I assume that these were healthy cats that were vaccinatedwhy are they
 being vaccinated?  Will they be living with FeLV+ cats, outside in a
colony
 or adopted and allowed outside?  Cats were tested, were negative, then
 retested and were positive - was that after vaccines? I think I'm missing
 something here. Sorry - Natalie
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth
 Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 9:39 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] IMPORTANT CAT VACCINE WARNING

 I work with Furkids. My best friend  her family stayed there until 1am
 giving fluids  taking temps. Luckily we didn't lose any of the kitties.
 What's worse the cats were testing positive for FeLV when they were
 retested.

 Beth
 Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/

 --- On Mon, 7/12/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Subject: [Felvtalk