Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Cliff

2009-11-26 Thread jbero

Hey Renee

Welcome to the US.  Not a great start finding out you have a little bundle
of joy with a deadly virus.  You do have an advantage, however.  You have a
chance to fight this early.  I would not let this window of opportunity

Felv cats are susceptible to secondary infections as their immune system is
not up to par.  Not only because of the virus but also because of his age.
I have a number of suggestions although I may be too late to interject.

1.  Do not vaccinate your felv cat with conventional vaccinations.  Vets may
recommend it, but don't. (You could try the alternative vaccinations if you
are concerned.)   They don't have the proper immune system to fight it.  You
put them in jeopardy of lots of other problems.  If you keep him inside away
from the possibility of picking up the viruses the vaccinations protect
against, you should be okay.

2.  Start any treatment now.  Whether that means LTCI (from imulan),
interferon, Acemannan or alternative immune boosters like high dose vitamin
C, wei qui booster etc.  Please please please start now.  Right now you are
fighting the secondary infections (the upper respiratory infections, oral
and eye infections).  You need to be more concerned about what's happening
underneath - the felv virus working it's way into all the cells of his bone
marrow leading to severe anemia, neutropenia, leukemia or lymphoma - these
things will kill him.  Granted some cats can clear the virus or simply hold
it at bay for life but some will die from it.  It's not known how to predict
who will do well and who won't so if you want to be on the safe side, treat
now.  If you start early enough sometimes you can reverse the viral status.
It may be too late now, but it may be worth trying.

3.  The acute issue of diarrhea may be secondary to antibiotic use (in which
case try a probiotic like acidophilus, you can get it at any vitamin store
or walgreens), may be a parasitic/bacterial/viral infection (bring stool
sample to vet - you don't have to bring him in for that), may be stress or
secondary to food change (change foods slowly by mixing foods, a raw diet or
high protein diet is generally considered the best for these cats), may
respresent something more serious but I would try the aforementioned first
(if there is not an explanation or improvement with the above, I would
follow with blood work (CBC - complete blood count, BMP - basic metabolic
panel, viral panel - includes feline corona virus and multiple other causes
of these types of symptoms)  I would not be idle with a felv cat that
displays symptoms of illness.

With respect to the other cat, I am happy she is negative, I would probably
retest in a few months as she also would have been exposed. Given that she
has been vaccinated and exposed without acquiring the virus you are probably
safe to mix them, but there is always a chance in this.  Younger cats are
more susceptible to acquiring and dying from the disease so it is a chance.
The vaccine is pretty good but not 100% effective.  That is decision only
you can make.  Good luck and may God bless you.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Cliff

2009-11-24 Thread Belinda Sauro
   Please do not give garlic or onions to kitties, it can cause Heinz 
body anemia and it is deadly:

Some think a tiny amount of garlic is OK, but why take a chance, better 
safe than sorry as far as I am concerned.


happiness is being owned by cats ...

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Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing Cliff

2009-11-24 Thread dlgegg
Renee, for the trip to the vet, try Feliway spray.  use it in carrier and car.  
most vets have it or a petstore.  most of the time it works for me.  And then, 
there is always the one who says No all the way to the vet.  You could also use 
Rescue Remedy, an herbal product for same thing.  Most important for his 
health, give him lots of love, good food and keep his stress levels down as 
much as possible.  It is good that you have started him on Lysine, that will 
boost his immune system.  
Even tho he tested positive for felv, don't give up on him.

 Renée Phipps wrote: 
 Hi everyone,
 My name is Renee and I am an Aussie who has recently married a US citizen and 
 relocated to Iowa. I have had cats my entire life and the only time I cried 
 leaving Oz was saying goodbye to my little brother cat Milo who is 14 years 
 old and lives with my parents. So obviously one of the first things I did 
 when arriving here in the US was adopt 2 kittens from the local animal 
 shelter, Cliff (at the time approx 8 weeks) and his cage mate at the shelter, 
 Sasha (approx 10 weeks).
 Both seemed to be in good health when we took them home from the shelter, 
 however there had been a kitty cold going around and Cliff started to show 
 symptoms a few days after arriving home - violent sneezes, coughing, flying 
 snot etc. He had one especially bad night where the poor little thing could 
 barely breath and was only happy when he was being held in my arms. I stayed 
 up all night with him afraid that he wouldn't make it through the 
 nightthe next morning (it was a Sunday) I took him to an 
 emergency vet clinic at the local vet med school and he was diagnosed as 
 having an upper respiratory infection and also feline herpes virus. He spent 
 the night at the vet's on a drip to help re-hydrate him and came home the 
 next day on a course of antibiotics (Clavamox) and it took him a few weeks to 
 finally kick off all the sneezing and coughing. (Meanwhile his sister Sasha 
 just suffered from a few sneezes and that was all.possibly she fought 
 it off since she was a little bit older then Cliff).
 A few weeks later I took both kitties back to the vet to get their 2nd lot of 
 shots and to get tested for FELV and FIV and Cliffy's ELISA test came back as 
 positive for FELV :-(  Sasha however was thankfully negative..the 
 vet and vet students were s lovely and so upset as well considering they 
 had basically fallen in love with these 2 extremely social kittens over the 
 past hour. There was no way we were going to do anything other than give 
 Cliff the best life possible so for the next month we kept the kittens in 
 separate living areas (very difficult in a small 2 bedroom apartment!) and 
 had Sasha retested for FELV and she was still negative so we the vet's 
 started her on her FELV was sooo sad keeping 
 them apart for so long, they are truly BFF's and missed each other alot, they 
 would sit on either side of our bedroom door and sniff and cry for each other 
 We haven't started Cliffy on any special med's as we really can't afford it 
 right now but to help keep his immune system boosted he gets Vetri-Science 
 Lysine tablets twice daily, as well as PetGuard Yeast  Garlic Powder mixed 
 into his breakfast each morning. To keep his mouth healthy he gets a CET 
 dental treat each day and I also try to clean his teeth at least once a week. 
 (Sasha gets all this as well, I figure I may as well keep her as healthy as 
 possible as well). He seemed to be absolutely thriving..every vet visit 
 he is putting on weight (he is currently 6 months and about 5.5 pounds), he 
 is so playful and loving, LOVES his food so much he tends to get annoying 
 always screaming for food!
 A few weeks ago we took the kitties in to get 
 spayed/neutered...unfortunately we had to put it off for a week as the 
 vet's could hear a slight infection in Cliff's lungs and given his health 
 history wanted to have it cleared up before putting him through surgery. 
 During this time he also developed several viral plaques on his upper and 
 lower lips apparently due to his herpes virus, so he was sent home on 
 Clavamox again. He did begin to develop diarrhea so the vet suggest lowering 
 his dose from 1ml twice daily to 0.5 ml, which did seem to help a little.
 We took the kitties back in a week later to get fixed and Cliff recovered 
 brilliantly...didn't seem to have any problems at all! However in the 
 last few days he has been suffering from extremly watery stool and last night 
 I watched him do his business twice and both times it had a significant 
 amount of red blood in it :-( Is this something that is directly related to 
 his FELV status or something else like parasited? He is acting normally in 
 every other way, is never off his food and I have been adding water to his 
 food to make sure his water intake