Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing healthy cats into former FELV+ cat household

2009-08-31 Thread MaryChristine
if you go to the cornell vet school site, you'll find the research from last
year about active virus being found in dried secretions up to a few days
after having been, expressed. this research is being used all over the
country as yet another reason to kill FeLVs, tho the professionals i've
spoken to affirmed my reading that it has no real meaning outside of a a
trivia challenge: we have no clue how much virus is required to infect
another cat, but for many years it's been recognized that it required,
persistent, prolonged contact. and i've yet to hear how some cat is
supposed to go find a syringe, locate the active virus in some dried sample
someplace, rehydrate it, and then inject it into another family cat's
bloodstream. (i keep seeing an image of a big maine coon sneaking about at
night, trying to do this with a polydactyl paw)

the, when it dries, it dies, was the standard for years, even tho it
wasn't actually 100% true either--there was research showing the virus could
IN RARE CASES exist up to a couple of hours after leaving the cat.

what this shows, however, is the reality that even the most open-minded
vet--ie, those who don't just treat FeLV with euthanasia--cannot possibly be
up to date on everything affected every species. that's an
impossibility--human docs can't keep up with one species, after all.

those of us with a great investment, then, are often more up-to-date than
veterinarians are about any rare condition. (and while FIV and FeLV may be
the most common fatal feline illnesses, most common does not mean that
they are actually common or prevalent.) so sharing knowledge goes both ways.





On Sun, Aug 30, 2009 at 6:36 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 my vet said the virus dies when it is dry.  just to be sure, wash down with
 clorox.  maybe not the scratching posts since they are usually not washable.
  wash everything down with cclorox and set out in the sun to dry.
  doggone...@doggonefit.com wrote:
  Hello everyone,
  After many years of rescuing positives, we have been a catless home for
 a few months and have made a difficult decision to adopt a healthy cat. Can
 anyone help with decisions on what should stay and what shouldn't? For
 example, scratching posts, cat carriers. I know there are many different
 opinions on how long the virus lasts, how well disinfectant  work, etc. I
 would greatly appreciate any help!
  Thanks!
  Heidi
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 Swarovski crystals to use to represent the different cancers (awareness
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 or 3 cancers plus CAT SPAYING AND NEUTERING.  we have a ribbon to put on our
 cars for our furbabies.  dorlis
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing healthy cats into former FELV+ cat household

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
my vet said the virus dies when it is dry.  just to be sure, wash down with 
clorox.  maybe not the scratching posts since they are usually not washable.  
wash everything down with cclorox and set out in the sun to dry.  
 doggone...@doggonefit.com wrote: 
 Hello everyone,
 After many years of rescuing positives, we have been a catless home for a 
 few months and have made a difficult decision to adopt a healthy cat. Can 
 anyone help with decisions on what should stay and what shouldn't? For 
 example, scratching posts, cat carriers. I know there are many different 
 opinions on how long the virus lasts, how well disinfectant  work, etc. I 
 would greatly appreciate any help!
 Thanks!
 Heidi
 --Original Message--
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
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 ReplyTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] spaying and neutering
 Sent: Jun 12, 2009 9:18 PM
 
 was just on one of my bead websites and someone had asked what colors of 
 Swarovski crystals to use to represent the different cancers (awareness 
 ribbons).  i checked it out from curosity and found that the orange ribbon 2 
 or 3 cancers plus CAT SPAYING AND NEUTERING.  we have a ribbon to put on our 
 cars for our furbabies.  dorlis
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing healthy cats into former FELV+ cat household

2009-08-30 Thread dlgegg
litter boxes - i have one for each cat plus an extra one.  for some reason, 
they all choose to use 2 boxes fr urine and 2 others for stools.  the other 
boxes only get used occassionally.
 Laurieskatz lauriesk...@mchsi.com wrote: 
 I adopted 3 FeLV- cats 3 1/2 months after Squeaky, FeLV+ died. 
 I don't recall now if I changed water and food bowls. 
 
 The virus does not live long outside the body. 
 
 I didn't have carriers or scratching posts with my FeLV+ cats. I was not a
 very smart guardian when I had them.
 
 I always recommend a new litter box with a new cat, regardless of FeLV
 status. I would probably get new scratchers, too, for the same scent reason.
 
 
 Laurie
 
 
 
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 doggone...@doggonefit.com
 Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:07 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Introducing healthy cats into former FELV+ cat household
 
 Hello everyone,
 After many years of rescuing positives, we have been a catless home for a
 few months and have made a difficult decision to adopt a healthy cat. Can
 anyone help with decisions on what should stay and what shouldn't? For
 example, scratching posts, cat carriers. I know there are many different
 opinions on how long the virus lasts, how well disinfectant  work, etc. I
 would greatly appreciate any help!
 Thanks!
 Heidi
 --Original Message--
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 ReplyTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] spaying and neutering
 Sent: Jun 12, 2009 9:18 PM
 
 was just on one of my bead websites and someone had asked what colors of
 Swarovski crystals to use to represent the different cancers (awareness
 ribbons).  i checked it out from curosity and found that the orange ribbon 2
 or 3 cancers plus CAT SPAYING AND NEUTERING.  we have a ribbon to put on our
 cars for our furbabies.  dorlis
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing healthy cats into former FELV+ cat household

2009-06-14 Thread MaryChristine
the virus is very fragile outside the warm, welcoming body of a cat.

the recent research about the virus remaining active in dried secretions for
longer than was originally thought is interesting, but really doesn't mean
much: unless someone can explain how a virus in a dried secretion is going
to be isolated, rehydrated, and introduced into the bodily fluids of another
cat, in sufficient amounts to equal, persistent, prolonged contact.

ie, the, when it dries, it dies bromide, while not technically 100
percent, remains the basic guideline.
bleach on hard surfaces, maybe shampooing upholestery and cat trees--more
than adequate.

and if you vaccinate the new kitty, you can always have positives, too!

MC

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Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing healthy cats into former FELV+ cat household

2009-06-14 Thread TANYA NOE

At my work I always recommend that things like litter boxes, scratching posts, 
and most toys not made of plastic be replaced regardless of FELV/FIV status. 
These are things that should periodically be replaced anyway for sanitary 
reasons. I recommend against plastic bowls for food and water as the plastic 
absorbs oils and can cause facial acne and other skin issues. If bowls and 
plates are glass, ceramic, or stainless steel I would say they're fine to use. 
I would say if your carrier is one of the hard plastic ones a good cleaning 
should suffice.
Most of the information out there does say that the virus doesn't last long 
outside of the body though it does die faster on dry surfaces as opposed to 
wet. 
Hope this helps, good luck finding your new forever friend or friends!

Tanya
   

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 From: doggone...@doggonefit.com doggone...@doggonefit.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Introducing healthy cats into former FELV+ cat household
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Saturday, June 13, 2009, 10:06 PM
 Hello everyone,
 After many years of rescuing positives, we have been a
 catless home for a few months and have made a difficult
 decision to adopt a healthy cat. Can anyone help with
 decisions on what should stay and what shouldn't? For
 example, scratching posts, cat carriers. I know there are
 many different opinions on how long the virus lasts, how
 well disinfectant  work, etc. I would greatly
 appreciate any help!
 Thanks!
 Heidi
 --Original Message--
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 ReplyTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] spaying and neutering
 Sent: Jun 12, 2009 9:18 PM
 
 was just on one of my bead websites and someone had asked
 what colors of Swarovski crystals to use to represent the
 different cancers (awareness ribbons).  i checked it
 out from curosity and found that the orange ribbon 2 or 3
 cancers plus CAT SPAYING AND NEUTERING.  we have a
 ribbon to put on our cars for our furbabies.  dorlis
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing healthy cats into former FELV+ cat household

2009-06-13 Thread Laurieskatz
I adopted 3 FeLV- cats 3 1/2 months after Squeaky, FeLV+ died. 
I don't recall now if I changed water and food bowls. 

The virus does not live long outside the body. 

I didn't have carriers or scratching posts with my FeLV+ cats. I was not a
very smart guardian when I had them.

I always recommend a new litter box with a new cat, regardless of FeLV
status. I would probably get new scratchers, too, for the same scent reason.


Laurie



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Sent: Saturday, June 13, 2009 9:07 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Introducing healthy cats into former FELV+ cat household

Hello everyone,
After many years of rescuing positives, we have been a catless home for a
few months and have made a difficult decision to adopt a healthy cat. Can
anyone help with decisions on what should stay and what shouldn't? For
example, scratching posts, cat carriers. I know there are many different
opinions on how long the virus lasts, how well disinfectant  work, etc. I
would greatly appreciate any help!
Thanks!
Heidi
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ReplyTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] spaying and neutering
Sent: Jun 12, 2009 9:18 PM

was just on one of my bead websites and someone had asked what colors of
Swarovski crystals to use to represent the different cancers (awareness
ribbons).  i checked it out from curosity and found that the orange ribbon 2
or 3 cancers plus CAT SPAYING AND NEUTERING.  we have a ribbon to put on our
cars for our furbabies.  dorlis

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Re: [Felvtalk] Introducing healthy cats into former FELV+ cat household

2009-06-13 Thread Gloria B. Lane
The virus doesn't live long outside the body, so I never worry about  
whether the virus will be in at carriers, scratching posts, etc.


Best of luck to you ,

Gloria


On Jun 13, 2009, at 9:06 PM, doggone...@doggonefit.com wrote:


Hello everyone,
After many years of rescuing positives, we have been a catless  
home for a few months and have made a difficult decision to adopt a  
healthy cat. Can anyone help with decisions on what should stay and  
what shouldn't? For example, scratching posts, cat carriers. I know  
there are many different opinions on how long the virus lasts, how  
well disinfectant  work, etc. I would greatly appreciate any help!

Thanks!
Heidi
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ReplyTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] spaying and neutering
Sent: Jun 12, 2009 9:18 PM

was just on one of my bead websites and someone had asked what  
colors of Swarovski crystals to use to represent the different  
cancers (awareness ribbons).  i checked it out from curosity and  
found that the orange ribbon 2 or 3 cancers plus CAT SPAYING AND  
NEUTERING.  we have a ribbon to put on our cars for our furbabies.   
dorlis


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