Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort
Oh don't shoot him, make him suffer the same way he made those poor babies suffer. An eye for an eye in this case! Good for you for telling the attorney's your opinion! I'd say the same thing :0) - Original Message - From: dlg...@windstream.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 7:31 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort I agree. PETA does not have too good a record themselves. This man simply got in over his head and did not know how to solve the problem. I also agree about those who tortue. There was a man in the St. Louis area who adopted puppies and kittens and then trtured them to death. He kept them alive as long as possible so he could enjoy their sufering. If I had my way, this man would have been shot on site. I was called for jury duty on an animal cruelty case. They asked me if I had an opinion on the case. I said shot the sob. They didn't call me for that jury. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: When I first saw a video about this ranch a few years ago, I wondered how anyone could possible keep track of and care for so many cats, especially when there's absolutely no control over them, in all those little houses (no matter how cute they are), no central feeding place, etc. I am not really surprised! However, the fact that PETA is involved, worries me a bit..for several reasons. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:51 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort http://northeastcobb.patch.com/articles/good-mews-assists-aspca-in-rescue-of -600-cats#photo-9221699 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort
What is upsetting to me as well about PETA's involvement, is that they sent out an email about Caboodle, then at the end used the situation to call for withdrawl of the proposed FL Animal Rescue Act. This bill is very important in the minds of all FL rescue people that I know of--I am in FL and very involved with rescue--and now PETA is saying this will enable places like Caboodle to pull animals from shelters. So now all sorts of people who are not involved in rescue and have no familiarity with the bill probably think it is horrible and will be speaking out against it (there was a link to contact FL legislators), at the time when it needs all the support it can get. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I agree. PETA does not have too good a record themselves. This man simply got in over his head and did not know how to solve the problem. I also agree about those who tortue. There was a man in the St. Louis area who adopted puppies and kittens and then trtured them to death. He kept them alive as long as possible so he could enjoy their sufering. If I had my way, this man would have been shot on site. I was called for jury duty on an animal cruelty case. They asked me if I had an opinion on the case. I said shot the sob. They didn't call me for that jury. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: When I first saw a video about this ranch a few years ago, I wondered how anyone could possible keep track of and care for so many cats, especially when there's absolutely no control over them, in all those little houses (no matter how cute they are), no central feeding place, etc. I am not really surprised! However, the fact that PETA is involved, worries me a bit..for several reasons. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:51 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort http://northeastcobb.patch.com/articles/good-mews-assists-aspca-in-rescue-of -600-cats#photo-9221699 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/ http://www.furkids.org/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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PETA definitely does questionable things. What exactly does the bill do? I am glad that a very reputable Georgia rescue - Good Mews, is helping out with this. Unfortunately if they take animals it means more animals in GA will die. Lose-lose situation. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort What is upsetting to me as well about PETA's involvement, is that they sent out an email about Caboodle, then at the end used the situation to call for withdrawl of the proposed FL Animal Rescue Act. This bill is very important in the minds of all FL rescue people that I know of--I am in FL and very involved with rescue--and now PETA is saying this will enable places like Caboodle to pull animals from shelters. So now all sorts of people who are not involved in rescue and have no familiarity with the bill probably think it is horrible and will be speaking out against it (there was a link to contact FL legislators), at the time when it needs all the support it can get. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I agree. PETA does not have too good a record themselves. This man simply got in over his head and did not know how to solve the problem. I also agree about those who tortue. There was a man in the St. Louis area who adopted puppies and kittens and then trtured them to death. He kept them alive as long as possible so he could enjoy their sufering. If I had my way, this man would have been shot on site. I was called for jury duty on an animal cruelty case. They asked me if I had an opinion on the case. I said shot the sob. They didn't call me for that jury. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: When I first saw a video about this ranch a few years ago, I wondered how anyone could possible keep track of and care for so many cats, especially when there's absolutely no control over them, in all those little houses (no matter how cute they are), no central feeding place, etc. I am not really surprised! However, the fact that PETA is involved, worries me a bit..for several reasons. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:51 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort http://northeastcobb.patch.com/articles/good-mews-assists-aspca-in-rescue-of -600-cats#photo-9221699 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort
Most of the time these big raids end up in the lap of the local rescues/shelters. Usually the big orgs like PETA, HSUS, ASPCA provide transportation to various rescues shelters who then have responsibility for the animals. As far as the law referred to would only require that no animal in a shelter would be euthanized if a legitimate rescue is willing to take it. http://www.floridarescueact.com/ While local rescues are universally advocating for this bill, the big organizations are all against it. In NY, my home state, ASPCA has spent millions pushing the quick kill bill which would, among other things, allow shelters to immediately kill any animal they deem to be under psychological pain From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:39 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort PETA definitely does questionable things. What exactly does the bill do? I am glad that a very reputable Georgia rescue - Good Mews, is helping out with this. Unfortunately if they take animals it means more animals in GA will die. Lose-lose situation. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/21.gif www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort What is upsetting to me as well about PETA's involvement, is that they sent out an email about Caboodle, then at the end used the situation to call for withdrawl of the proposed FL Animal Rescue Act. This bill is very important in the minds of all FL rescue people that I know of--I am in FL and very involved with rescue--and now PETA is saying this will enable places like Caboodle to pull animals from shelters. So now all sorts of people who are not involved in rescue and have no familiarity with the bill probably think it is horrible and will be speaking out against it (there was a link to contact FL legislators), at the time when it needs all the support it can get. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I agree. PETA does not have too good a record themselves. This man simply got in over his head and did not know how to solve the problem. I also agree about those who tortue. There was a man in the St. Louis area who adopted puppies and kittens and then trtured them to death. He kept them alive as long as possible so he could enjoy their sufering. If I had my way, this man would have been shot on site. I was called for jury duty on an animal cruelty case. They asked me if I had an opinion on the case. I said shot the sob. They didn't call me for that jury. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: When I first saw a video about this ranch a few years ago, I wondered how anyone could possible keep track of and care for so many cats, especially when there's absolutely no control over them, in all those little houses (no matter how cute they are), no central feeding place, etc. I am not really surprised! However, the fact that PETA is involved, worries me a bit..for several reasons. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:51 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort http://northeastcobb.patch.com/articles/good-mews-assists-aspca-in-rescue-of -600-cats#photo-9221699 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ http://www.furkids.org/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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We have a similar law in California -- animals may not be euthanized is a non-profit rescue is willing to take that animal. There are plenty of ways around it and the law is hard to enforce but it has saved a lot of lives and created good working partnerships between rescues and shelters. --- On Fri, 3/2/12, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: From: Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, March 2, 2012, 9:04 AM Most of the time these big raids end up in the lap of the local rescues/shelters. Usually the big orgs like PETA, HSUS, ASPCA provide transportation to various rescues shelters who then have responsibility for the animals. As far as the law referred to would only require that no animal in a shelter would be euthanized if a legitimate rescue is willing to take it. http://www.floridarescueact.com/ While local rescues are universally advocating for this bill, the big organizations are all against it. In NY, my home state, ASPCA has spent millions pushing the “quick kill” bill which would, among other things, allow shelters to immediately kill any animal they deem to be under “psychological pain” From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:39 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort PETA definitely does questionable things. What exactly does the bill do? I am glad that a very reputable Georgia rescue - Good Mews, is helping out with this. Unfortunately if they take animals it means more animals in GA will die. Lose-lose situation. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort What is upsetting to me as well about PETA's involvement, is that they sent out an email about Caboodle, then at the end used the situation to call for withdrawl of the proposed FL Animal Rescue Act. This bill is very important in the minds of all FL rescue people that I know of--I am in FL and very involved with rescue--and now PETA is saying this will enable places like Caboodle to pull animals from shelters. So now all sorts of people who are not involved in rescue and have no familiarity with the bill probably think it is horrible and will be speaking out against it (there was a link to contact FL legislators), at the time when it needs all the support it can get. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I agree. PETA does not have too good a record themselves. This man simply got in over his head and did not know how to solve the problem. I also agree about those who tortue. There was a man in the St. Louis area who adopted puppies and kittens and then trtured them to death. He kept them alive as long as possible so he could enjoy their sufering. If I had my way, this man would have been shot on site. I was called for jury duty on an animal cruelty case. They asked me if I had an opinion on the case. I said shot the sob. They didn't call me for that jury. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: When I first saw a video about this ranch a few years ago, I wondered how anyone could possible keep track of and care for so many cats, especially when there's absolutely no control over them, in all those little houses (no matter how cute they are), no central feeding place, etc. I am not really surprised! However, the fact that PETA is involved, worries me a bit..for several reasons. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:51 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort http://northeastcobb.patch.com/articles/good-mews-assists-aspca-in-rescue-of -600-cats#photo-9221699 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort
I've seen a lot about the NY quick kill bill, Christiane--it is horrible, so many pets may be euthanized on intake before anyone has a chance to look for them.The rest of the country (well, some of it) is moving toward recognizing TNR and feral freedom, but this bill will put NY in reverse. It is very sad. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.comwrote: Most of the time these big raids end up in the lap of the local rescues/shelters. Usually the big orgs like PETA, HSUS, ASPCA provide transportation to various rescues shelters who then have responsibility for the animals. ** ** As far as the law referred to would only require that no animal in a shelter would be euthanized if a legitimate rescue is willing to take it. http://www.floridarescueact.com/ While local rescues are universally advocating for this bill, the big organizations are all against it. In NY, my home state, ASPCA has spent millions pushing the “quick kill” bill which would, among other things, allow shelters to immediately kill any animal they deem to be under “psychological pain” ** ** *From:* felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] *On Behalf Of *Beth *Sent:* Friday, March 02, 2012 11:39 AM *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort ** ** PETA definitely does questionable things. What exactly does the bill do?** ** I am glad that a very reputable Georgia rescue - Good Mews, is helping out with this. Unfortunately if they take animals it means more animals in GA will die. Lose-lose situation. ** ** Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/* *** ** ** -- *From:* Heather furrygi...@gmail.com *To:* felvtalk@felineleukemia.org *Sent:* Friday, March 2, 2012 11:13 AM *Subject:* Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort ** ** What is upsetting to me as well about PETA's involvement, is that they sent out an email about Caboodle, then at the end used the situation to call for withdrawl of the proposed FL Animal Rescue Act. This bill is very important in the minds of all FL rescue people that I know of--I am in FL and very involved with rescue--and now PETA is saying this will enable places like Caboodle to pull animals from shelters. So now all sorts of people who are not involved in rescue and have no familiarity with the bill probably think it is horrible and will be speaking out against it (there was a link to contact FL legislators), at the time when it needs all the support it can get. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I agree. PETA does not have too good a record themselves. This man simply got in over his head and did not know how to solve the problem. I also agree about those who tortue. There was a man in the St. Louis area who adopted puppies and kittens and then trtured them to death. He kept them alive as long as possible so he could enjoy their sufering. If I had my way, this man would have been shot on site. I was called for jury duty on an animal cruelty case. They asked me if I had an opinion on the case. I said shot the sob. They didn't call me for that jury. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: When I first saw a video about this ranch a few years ago, I wondered how anyone could possible keep track of and care for so many cats, especially when there's absolutely no control over them, in all those little houses (no matter how cute they are), no central feeding place, etc. I am not really surprised! However, the fact that PETA is involved, worries me a bit..for several reasons. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:51 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort http://northeastcobb.patch.com/articles/good-mews-assists-aspca-in-rescue-of -600-cats#photo-9221699 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.orghttp://www.furkids.org/ http://www.furkids.org/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ** ** ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http
Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort
If any of my cats were ever to get out end up in a shelter, sweet docile as they are, they would so flip out that I've no doubt that they'd be immediately euthanized-not to mention my FELV+ my diabetic cat would be euthanized immediately just for their conditions. From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 1:29 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort I've seen a lot about the NY quick kill bill, Christiane--it is horrible, so many pets may be euthanized on intake before anyone has a chance to look for them.The rest of the country (well, some of it) is moving toward recognizing TNR and feral freedom, but this bill will put NY in reverse. It is very sad. On Fri, Mar 2, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com wrote: Most of the time these big raids end up in the lap of the local rescues/shelters. Usually the big orgs like PETA, HSUS, ASPCA provide transportation to various rescues shelters who then have responsibility for the animals. As far as the law referred to would only require that no animal in a shelter would be euthanized if a legitimate rescue is willing to take it. http://www.floridarescueact.com/ While local rescues are universally advocating for this bill, the big organizations are all against it. In NY, my home state, ASPCA has spent millions pushing the quick kill bill which would, among other things, allow shelters to immediately kill any animal they deem to be under psychological pain From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Friday, March 02, 2012 11:39 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort PETA definitely does questionable things. What exactly does the bill do? I am glad that a very reputable Georgia rescue - Good Mews, is helping out with this. Unfortunately if they take animals it means more animals in GA will die. Lose-lose situation. Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ _ From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, March 2, 2012 11:13 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort What is upsetting to me as well about PETA's involvement, is that they sent out an email about Caboodle, then at the end used the situation to call for withdrawl of the proposed FL Animal Rescue Act. This bill is very important in the minds of all FL rescue people that I know of--I am in FL and very involved with rescue--and now PETA is saying this will enable places like Caboodle to pull animals from shelters. So now all sorts of people who are not involved in rescue and have no familiarity with the bill probably think it is horrible and will be speaking out against it (there was a link to contact FL legislators), at the time when it needs all the support it can get. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 8:31 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote: I agree. PETA does not have too good a record themselves. This man simply got in over his head and did not know how to solve the problem. I also agree about those who tortue. There was a man in the St. Louis area who adopted puppies and kittens and then trtured them to death. He kept them alive as long as possible so he could enjoy their sufering. If I had my way, this man would have been shot on site. I was called for jury duty on an animal cruelty case. They asked me if I had an opinion on the case. I said shot the sob. They didn't call me for that jury. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: When I first saw a video about this ranch a few years ago, I wondered how anyone could possible keep track of and care for so many cats, especially when there's absolutely no control over them, in all those little houses (no matter how cute they are), no central feeding place, etc. I am not really surprised! However, the fact that PETA is involved, worries me a bit..for several reasons. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:51 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort http://northeastcobb.patch.com/articles/good-mews-assists-aspca-in-rescue-of -600-cats#photo-9221699 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ http://www.furkids.org/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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One of the related, inner struggles I have with such cases are, the cruelty charges made to those with good intentions (which I do believe existed here) will likely stick, yet every day sick individuals who purposely torture and maim cats and dogs get off very easily even with much evidence. I read one case recently of a man in California who was caught torturing then consuming stray cats, supposedly he was even witnessed skinning one alive (and other horrible acts), and he got a bit of community service, probation and a fine under $500. This happens all the time. Perhaps the discrepancy is solely in evidence, witnesses and the legal process, but it seems to me that hoarders are penalized more stringently than flat out torturers who commit such acts willingly, not because they got in over their heads. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: http://northeastcobb.patch.com/articles/good-mews-assists-aspca-in-rescue-of-600-cats#photo-9221699 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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When I first saw a video about this ranch a few years ago, I wondered how anyone could possible keep track of and care for so many cats, especially when there's absolutely no control over them, in all those little houses (no matter how cute they are), no central feeding place, etc. I am not really surprised! However, the fact that PETA is involved, worries me a bit..for several reasons. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:51 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort http://northeastcobb.patch.com/articles/good-mews-assists-aspca-in-rescue-of -600-cats#photo-9221699 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ attachment: ~WRD148.jpg___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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The problem is, if a hoarder does not get mental treatment, they will do it again. If there is public record of their crimes it makes it easier for good rescues to identify them. I do agree cruelty charges should be great for those torturing animals. Beth Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2012 11:59 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort One of the related, inner struggles I have with such cases are, the cruelty charges made to those with good intentions (which I do believe existed here) will likely stick, yet every day sick individuals who purposely torture and maim cats and dogs get off very easily even with much evidence. I read one case recently of a man in California who was caught torturing then consuming stray cats, supposedly he was even witnessed skinning one alive (and other horrible acts), and he got a bit of community service, probation and a fine under $500. This happens all the time. Perhaps the discrepancy is solely in evidence, witnesses and the legal process, but it seems to me that hoarders are penalized more stringently than flat out torturers who commit such acts willingly, not because they got in over their heads. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: http://northeastcobb.patch.com/articles/good-mews-assists-aspca-in-rescue-of-600-cats#photo-9221699 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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We have so many horror stories on our DNA (Do Not Adopt) list, it's sickening! These people get away with torture, murder, and nothing happens to them. Sometimes cases like this are hyped by the media, to seem worse than they really are. But where are the people who could help when it is needed? Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Heather Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:59 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort One of the related, inner struggles I have with such cases are, the cruelty charges made to those with good intentions (which I do believe existed here) will likely stick, yet every day sick individuals who purposely torture and maim cats and dogs get off very easily even with much evidence. I read one case recently of a man in California who was caught torturing then consuming stray cats, supposedly he was even witnessed skinning one alive (and other horrible acts), and he got a bit of community service, probation and a fine under $500. This happens all the time. Perhaps the discrepancy is solely in evidence, witnesses and the legal process, but it seems to me that hoarders are penalized more stringently than flat out torturers who commit such acts willingly, not because they got in over their heads. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: http://northeastcobb.patch.com/articles/good-mews-assists-aspca-in-rescue-of -600-cats#photo-9221699 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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Oh yes Heather! Couldn't agree more..a few tortured pets don't attract as much media as a suposedly haven gone bad..not a thought abt the person and why. So a stereotype is created and thast what the media exploits w/o giving a chance to the erso to speak for themselves. Besides a story of this type attracts more attention than somebody skinning animals alive, just for the eek factor._One of those miscarriages of justice as for punishment and way it is exposed. M http://homelessnomore.webs.com/ --- On Thu, 3/1/12, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote: From: Heather furrygi...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Thursday, March 1, 2012, 4:59 PM One of the related, inner struggles I have with such cases are, the cruelty charges made to those with good intentions (which I do believe existed here) will likely stick, yet every day sick individuals who purposely torture and maim cats and dogs get off very easily even with much evidence. I read one case recently of a man in California who was caught torturing then consuming stray cats, supposedly he was even witnessed skinning one alive (and other horrible acts), and he got a bit of community service, probation and a fine under $500. This happens all the time. Perhaps the discrepancy is solely in evidence, witnesses and the legal process, but it seems to me that hoarders are penalized more stringently than flat out torturers who commit such acts willingly, not because they got in over their heads. On Thu, Mar 1, 2012 at 11:50 AM, Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: http://northeastcobb.patch.com/articles/good-mews-assists-aspca-in-rescue-of-600-cats#photo-9221699 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
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I agree. PETA does not have too good a record themselves. This man simply got in over his head and did not know how to solve the problem. I also agree about those who tortue. There was a man in the St. Louis area who adopted puppies and kittens and then trtured them to death. He kept them alive as long as possible so he could enjoy their sufering. If I had my way, this man would have been shot on site. I was called for jury duty on an animal cruelty case. They asked me if I had an opinion on the case. I said shot the sob. They didn't call me for that jury. GRAS g...@optonline.net wrote: When I first saw a video about this ranch a few years ago, I wondered how anyone could possible keep track of and care for so many cats, especially when there's absolutely no control over them, in all those little houses (no matter how cute they are), no central feeding place, etc. I am not really surprised! However, the fact that PETA is involved, worries me a bit..for several reasons. Natalie From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Beth Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2012 11:51 AM To: FeLV Talk Subject: [Felvtalk] Link to Story about Caboodle Ranch Rescue Effort http://northeastcobb.patch.com/articles/good-mews-assists-aspca-in-rescue-of -600-cats#photo-9221699 Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter!Image removed by sender. www.Furkids.org http://www.furkids.org/ ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org
