Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-13 Thread molveywda
I haven't read all the literature or watched the videos about his place but I 
was under the impression that it is set up to be a sanctuary not a rescue or 
shelter type situation.  Most of his cats weren't pets but homeless cats that 
were living on the streets anyway.  So his place is probably better than living 
on the street.  Probably also has ferals that were at a pound ready to be 
executed because they're not adoptable.  He also takes in ferals that can no 
longer live at the colony location.

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From: dlgegg dlg...@windstream.net
Date: Sun, Sep 11, 2011 6:08 pm
Subject: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

I thought about this too, but he might not let me bring them in the house 
because I felt guilty leaving them outside.

 Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: 
 This man has put a lot of time and effort into this! This is a wonderful 
 heartfelt endeavor. He must really love his cats. They certainly look healthy 
 to me. I applaud him! I may just marry him(-:

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On Sep 11, 2011, at 4:22 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 Check out the video in Atia's message.  I did and when I was viewing his 
 video, I checked out another from a girl who had pictures that suggested it 
 was not so good.  It was good that they get food and have houses to sleep in 
 and it is fenced, but just with a normal cyclone fence that cats and coyotes 
 cold easily get over.  And with that many cats and not much help in the 
 caring department, it is hard to see how he could keep up with who is 
 sick,hurt.  His video also said he bears most of the cost with some donations 
 to help.  I also worry about who will take over when he dies since he doesn't 
 look like a youngster.  Does he have provisions for continuing care of the 
 cats.  Also, if people take their pets to him expecting them to get the same 
 care they gave them, would they?  My guys go outside for 2 or 3 hour in the 
 day but they are inside at night and bad weather days.  The are used to 
 sleeping on my memory foam bed and me.  I do not think they would be happy 
 there.
  Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 Seems like I read the woman in CA does have her property fenced in.  She 
 doesn't actually have as much acreage as this other guy.  She has a staff of 
 like 25 people.  I never heard that about the other guy so who knows if his 
 property is fenced in.  But it seems like he takes in ferals and homeless 
 cats who have absolutely nowhere else to go so even if it isn't an ideal 
 home situation those cats are a lot better off with him.
 
 “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
 profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 
 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:21:51 -0400
 From: at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 Isn't that in Florida?  All little houses; but how does one keep track of 
 them out there, and so many, how can he know who's sick?  Don't they get 
 out?  Is it all fenced in?  I had so many questions when I saw the video
 Man builds cat-sized village for homeless cats: 
 http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/69/man-builds-cat-sized-village-for-homeless-cats.html
  . 
 There's also a woman in CA, I think, who has 600 cats - looks like a great 
 place.
 
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 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:50 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 I could sell my place and move there.  I only have 7 cats and if they dn't 
 get alog well with yours, I could build them an outdoor day time house.  At 
 night they could sleep in my bedroom like they do now.  I wouldn't mind 
 takin on a few more cats.  Or waht about this guy in Oregon who bought 600 
 acres of an old tree farm.  He takes in strays, unwanteds and lets the roam 
 the 600 acres.  He builds all kinds of houses for them to sleep in and 
 spends the day checking up on them and giving each one some loving.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-13 Thread MaiMaiPG
That was my impression.  From the cats' point of view, they are a lot  
better off--safer, fed, sheltered.  I hope they are s/n.

On Sep 13, 2011, at 4:36 AM, molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:

I haven't read all the literature or watched the videos about his  
place but I was under the impression that it is set up to be a  
sanctuary not a rescue or shelter type situation.  Most of his cats  
weren't pets but homeless cats that were living on the streets  
anyway.  So his place is probably better than living on the street.   
Probably also has ferals that were at a pound ready to be executed  
because they're not adoptable.  He also takes in ferals that can no  
longer live at the colony location.


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From: dlgegg dlg...@windstream.net
Date: Sun, Sep 11, 2011 6:08 pm
Subject: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

I thought about this too, but he might not let me bring them in the  
house because I felt guilty leaving them outside.


 Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:
 This man has put a lot of time and effort into this! This is a  
wonderful heartfelt endeavor. He must really love his cats. They  
certainly look healthy to me. I applaud him! I may just marry him(-:


Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with,  
Christmas 2010.


On Sep 11, 2011, at 4:22 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 Check out the video in Atia's message.  I did and when I was  
viewing his video, I checked out another from a girl who had  
pictures that suggested it was not so good.  It was good that they  
get food and have houses to sleep in and it is fenced, but just with  
a normal cyclone fence that cats and coyotes cold easily get over.   
And with that many cats and not much help in the caring department,  
it is hard to see how he could keep up with who is sick,hurt.  His  
video also said he bears most of the cost with some donations to  
help.  I also worry about who will take over when he dies since he  
doesn't look like a youngster.  Does he have provisions for  
continuing care of the cats.  Also, if people take their pets to him  
expecting them to get the same care they gave them, would they?  My  
guys go outside for 2 or 3 hour in the day but they are inside at  
night and bad weather days.  The are used to sleeping on my memory  
foam bed and me.  I do not think they would be happy there.

  Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:

 Seems like I read the woman in CA does have her property fenced  
in.  She doesn't actually have as much acreage as this other guy.   
She has a staff of like 25 people.  I never heard that about the  
other guy so who knows if his property is fenced in.  But it seems  
like he takes in ferals and homeless cats who have absolutely  
nowhere else to go so even if it isn't an ideal home situation those  
cats are a lot better off with him.


 “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results  
that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it  
inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward  
it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without  
looking further.” – Mark Twain


 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:21:51 -0400
 From: at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

 Isn't that in Florida?  All little houses; but how does one keep  
track of them out there, and so many, how can he know who's sick?   
Don't they get out?  Is it all fenced in?  I had so many questions  
when I saw the video
 Man builds cat-sized village for homeless cats: http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/69/man-builds-cat-sized-village-for-homeless-cats.html 
 .
 There's also a woman in CA, I think, who has 600 cats - looks  
like a great place.


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 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net

 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:50 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

 I could sell my place and move there.  I only have 7 cats and if  
they dn't get alog well with yours, I could build them an outdoor  
day time house.  At night they could sleep in my bedroom like they  
do now.  I wouldn't mind takin on a few more cats.  Or waht about  
this guy in Oregon who bought 600 acres of an old tree farm.  He  
takes in strays, unwanteds and lets the roam the 600 acres.  He  
builds all kinds of houses for them to sleep in and spends the day  
checking up on them and giving each one some loving.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-11 Thread dlgegg
JUST HOW OLD IN THIS NATALIE?  i AM 70 AND HOPE TO BE HERE A FEW MORE YEARS. 
Maybe we could get together and help each other out.  fATHER MADE IT TO 92.
SPEAKING OF HAVING A RESCUE/NO KLL SHELTER,  DO YOU HAVE TO BE LICENSED?  i WAS 
THINKING of starting one and applying to cat food companies for $ off or a 
dnation of food, maybe.  Then I could handle more than 7.  Right now, between 
litter and food, my budget is stretched to it's limit.  All of you who  rescue, 
have you tried this and did it work?  We have so many unwanted cats around here 
thatI was thinking if I could start a cat only shelter that would give PALS a 
break and they could concentrate on the dogs.  The have been turning away cats 
and dogs because thy simply do not have the room and they just got a larger 
facility so they could handle more.  So many in our area have lost jobs, homes 
and cannot keep their pets.  Also, being a rural area no one neuters their 
anmals, just let them breed and then give the babies away to anyone who takes 
them.  Unfortunate because many who take them do not take good care of them, 
just let them run loose and if they get hit by a car or taken by a coyote, get 
another one.  Even PALS isn't too picky about who takes them.  Thy are overrun 
so let them go without too many questions.  I would probably go the other way 
and put them thru a background check before I even interviewed them.  Then, I 
would end up keeping them because I could not find anyone good enough for my 
babies.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 This Natalie may be long gone by the time you youngster kick the
 bucket.unless a bucket kicks you first..
 
 Yes, I would take a few if I had an open condo, so don't go anywhere yet,
 OK?
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 10:21 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
  
 
 I have so many foster failures that I have more cats than most people so
 mine could never stay together (a lot of them wouldn't care).  So here's my
 plan - my husband would keep several but he couldn't handle keeping all of
 them by himself, and even if he did once he remarried I doubt a new wife
 would want to take care of that many animals, so for the rest my rescue
 would take a few of the younger, adoptable ones, I have a couple of friends
 that would each take a few, then I know this nice lady in CT that operates a
 rescue that can take the rest.  Her name is Natalie.  
 
 Except for one cat, she will go to someone with the e-mail address of
 maima...@gmail.com.  That cat's name is Mai Mai so it's only appropriate she
 goes to someone who has Mai Mai in her address!  
 
 Her and her brother are named Mai  Thai, like the drink except that there's
 an h in the tai word that normally isn't there.  So her name is pronounced
 Mai like the drink but I call her Mai Mai.  Just to clarify, the reason
 there's an h in Thai which isn't there in the correct spelling of the
 drink (which is mai tai) is because my boy Thai is an apple head Siamese
 (mix but looks almost pure) and the new name for the traditional applehead
 Siamese cat is a Thai Cat.  So after reading that for some reason I came up
 with Mai  Thai for those two.  So anyway, I think Mai Mai should go with
 Mai Mai on her farm.  And if you're taking Mai Mai you might as well take
 Thai.
 
 I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
 profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
 Twain
 
  Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 19:52:14 -0500
  From: dlg...@windstream.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
  
  That is what really worries me. I am in pretty god shape, but accidents do
 happen. That is why we have to have everything worked out now, including the
 woever gets my cat(s) to let them know about thir prsonality, food, etc.
   MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: 
   Amen
   On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Natalie wrote:
   
We don't have to be older to check out, we could be hit by a bus any
dayyoung or old - therefore all of us should have a serious 
contingency
plan for emergencies!
   
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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
   
Hey, I love you two!!! I wish you really could move here when the
time comes. I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan on 
checkin'
out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because it could 
happen.
.
For the record my three kids

Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-11 Thread dlgegg
Check out the video in Atia's message.  I did and when I was viewing his video, 
I checked out another from a girl who had pictures that suggested it was not so 
good.  It was good that they get food and have houses to sleep in and it is 
fenced, but just with a normal cyclone fence that cats and coyotes cold easily 
get over.  And with that many cats and not much help in the caring department, 
it is hard to see how he could keep up with who is sick,hurt.  His video also 
said he bears most of the cost with some donations to help.  I also worry about 
who will take over when he dies since he doesn't look like a youngster.  Does 
he have provisions for continuing care of the cats.  Also, if people take their 
pets to him expecting them to get the same care they gave them, would they?  My 
guys go outside for 2 or 3 hour in the day but they are inside at night and bad 
weather days.  The are used to sleeping on my memory foam bed and me.  I do not 
think they would be happy there.
 Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 Seems like I read the woman in CA does have her property fenced in.  She 
 doesn't actually have as much acreage as this other guy.  She has a staff of 
 like 25 people.  I never heard that about the other guy so who knows if his 
 property is fenced in.  But it seems like he takes in ferals and homeless 
 cats who have absolutely nowhere else to go so even if it isn't an ideal home 
 situation those cats are a lot better off with him.
 
 “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
 profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 
  Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:21:51 -0400
  From: at...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
  
  Isn't that in Florida?  All little houses; but how does one keep track of 
  them out there, and so many, how can he know who's sick?  Don't they get 
  out?  Is it all fenced in?  I had so many questions when I saw the video
  Man builds cat-sized village for homeless cats: 
  http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/69/man-builds-cat-sized-village-for-homeless-cats.html
   . 
  There's also a woman in CA, I think, who has 600 cats - looks like a great 
  place.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
  dlg...@windstream.net
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:50 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
  
  I could sell my place and move there.  I only have 7 cats and if they dn't 
  get alog well with yours, I could build them an outdoor day time house.  At 
  night they could sleep in my bedroom like they do now.  I wouldn't mind 
  takin on a few more cats.  Or waht about this guy in Oregon who bought 600 
  acres of an old tree farm.  He takes in strays, unwanteds and lets the roam 
  the 600 acres.  He builds all kinds of houses for them to sleep in and 
  spends the day checking up on them and giving each one some loving.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-11 Thread dlgegg
I will have to take a course so I can do the pictures.


 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 I started a hard file (we have it on the computer, but nobody would know how
 to get it): Pictures of individual cats, medical history, descriptions of
 personality, likes/dislikes, etc.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:52 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 That is what really worries me.  I am in pretty god shape, but accidents do
 happen.  That is why we have to have everything worked out now, including
 the woever gets my cat(s) to let them know about thir prsonality, food, etc.
  MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Amen
  On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Natalie wrote:
  
   We don't have to be older to check out, we could be hit by a bus 
   any dayyoung or old - therefore all of us should have a serious 
   contingency plan for emergencies!
  
   -Original Message-
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
   Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:47 PM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
  
   Hey, I love you two!!!   I wish you really could move here when the
   time comes.  I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan on 
   checkin'
   out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because it could 
   happen.
   .
   For the record my three kids are older than you two girls. My son is 
   56, middle daughter 54 and youngest daughter just turned 50. All of 
   them adore cats, but they already have a bunch of their own.  My 
   youngest daughter has
   11 cats, and the others have a several cats and dogs. I know they 
   wouldn't just dump my cats, because they are great kids, but they 
   would have a problem taking all 15 of mine.
   .
   Now just in case you two are really thinking of coming here you can 
   look up www.alpinelakeresort.com It's in the eastern mountains of WV 
   just ten miles from the Maryland border.  Summers here are wonderful 
   with temperatures seldom above 75 - 80, but beware, in the winter we 
   get LOTS of snow.
  
   Anyway,  regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me 
   some hope for the future of my kitty kats.  BTW, Maureen,  my cats 
   like strange people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-).
  
   Lorrie
  
   On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote:
 See  Lorrie  - now everything has been worked out!  So tell your 
   three
 kids  if  they don't get off their butts and offer to take your 
   babies
 in that  you're  going  to  have  two strange women (well, I'm 
   strange
 anyway)  living  in your house taking care of your animals.  And 
   we're
 not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!!
  
 From: longhornf...@verizon.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 Lorrie,
  
 I like the way Maureen thinks!  I can help Maureen take care of 
   all of
 your  cats,  I love her idea even though she's kidding.  It would 
   be a
 great  place  to retire and between the two of us, we can take 
   care of
 all the furry babies!  Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0)
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-11 Thread dlgegg
ME TOO
 Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 Lynda - a house on the lake in a resort type atomsphere - I say leave the 
 husbands behind and enjoy ourselves.  With two of us we'd have time to take 
 care of the cats and still have fun!  Man - just sitting outside on the lake 
 watching the cats play in the enclosures sounds so relaxing.  I'm ready to 
 move right now.
  
 “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
 profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
  
 
 
 
 From: longhornf...@verizon.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 Lorrie,
  
 I like the way Maureen thinks!  I can help Maureen take care of all of your 
 cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding.  It would be a great place 
 to retire and between the two of us, we can take care of all the furry 
 babies!  Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0)
  
 L
 
 - Original Message - 
 From: molvey...@hotmail.com 
 To: Lorrie ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 9:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 Lorrie - I'll pack my bags and be right up.  Living on a lake taking care of 
 cats sounds awesome.  I'm 45 so hopefully will be around until all your cats 
 die!  Give me driving directions!!!  I'm a CPA so can work to keep your cats 
 in the lifestyle they're accustomed to living.
 
 Ok, just kidding.  Wish I could take off sometimes.  I've got a lot of cats 
 too, but unless something tragic happens hopefully I'll outlive them.  It's 
 scary to think about the future though because you just don't know what will 
 happen and when.
 
 I've missed a lot of this thread so I might have missed something but if 
 you're 78, then you could still outlive your cats.  My Grandmother is 92 and 
 lives in a small apartment on her own.  Best to make plans now of course but 
 by the time you're gone who knows what the situation will be.
 
 Tell your kids that you're leaving your house and money to them so between 
 the three of them they could make room for all the cats!  Fifteen cats split 
 three ways is no big deal.  Cats are pretty easy.  Tell them they could close 
 in their garage or build an extra room with your money and then enclose an 
 area of their yard for the cats to go in and that's all the cats would need.  
 Tell them if they don't you're writing them out of your will!
 
 
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 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 Date: Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:54 pm
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
  On 09-08, Gloria Lane wrote:
 
  I'm kindly pondering how to do that. Any web sites that address
  that I wonder?
 
 There are many cat sanctuaries listed on the web, but most are full.
 Then too, many fail and become like hoarding places because they take
 in too many cats to care for properly.  It is truly difficult to find
 a good sanctuary, but I'll keep trying. If I knew who would take care
 of my 15 cats I'd give them my house which is a lovely home in a
 resort area on a lake.  It has been built around the needs of my
 cats, and has three outside enclosures they can access from the
 inside via cat flaps.  It is also in the woods on several acres 
 with no traffic. It is a paradise for my cats, and I just wish
 someone could let them continue the happy life they know and love.
 I will not go to my grave and be at peace until I know my babies
 are taken care of.
 
 Lorrie
 
  On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:00 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and
   whatever may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be
   used for their care until they all leave this world.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-11 Thread MaiMaiPG
For the present it looks like a good alternative for the  
cats...don't know about the future.  The cats who hang out at  
Mom's don't get the medical care my guys get because they have to be  
trapped and that can take days or even weeks.  They get good food but  
not specialized and they have shelter if they chose to use it.  They  
have been s/n and released and we have lost a lot of them but we have  
some in the colony who have been there for about 10 years.  We do the  
best we can.  The little guys who live with me came from this colony  
as tiny kittens.  So did Dixie, Kitty and TK.  Some want to be inside  
cats and some don't---or want to think about it.  I don't know what  
happens after Mom leaves this world.  I have primary caregiving duties  
and will do the best I can.  They are very independent cats.  I guess  
we just have to do the best we can.


On Sep 11, 2011, at 4:22 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net 
 wrote:


Check out the video in Atia's message.  I did and when I was viewing  
his video, I checked out another from a girl who had pictures that  
suggested it was not so good.  It was good that they get food and  
have houses to sleep in and it is fenced, but just with a normal  
cyclone fence that cats and coyotes cold easily get over.  And with  
that many cats and not much help in the caring department, it is  
hard to see how he could keep up with who is sick,hurt.  His video  
also said he bears most of the cost with some donations to help.  I  
also worry about who wsome who have been in the ill take over when  
he dies since he doesn't look like a youngster.  Does he have  
provisions for continuing care of the cats.  Also, if people take  
their pets to him expecting them to get the same care they gave  
them, would they?  My guys go outside for 2 or 3 hour in the day but  
they are inside at night and bad weather days.  The are used to  
sleeping on my memory foam bed and me.  I do not think they would be  
happy there.

 Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote:


Seems like I read the woman in CA does have her property fenced  
in.  She doesn't actually have as much acreage as this other guy.   
She has a staff of like 25 people.  I never heard that about the  
other guy so who knows if his property is fenced in.  But it seems  
like he takes in ferals and homeless cats who have absolutely  
nowhere else to go so even if it isn't an ideal home situation  
those cats are a lot better off with him.


“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results  
that are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it  
inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward  
it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without  
looking further.” – Mark Twain



Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:21:51 -0400
From: at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

Isn't that in Florida?  All little houses; but how does one keep  
track of them out there, and so many, how can he know who's sick?   
Don't they get out?  Is it all fenced in?  I had so many questions  
when I saw the video
Man builds cat-sized village for homeless cats: http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/69/man-builds-cat-sized-village-for-homeless-cats.html 
 .
There's also a woman in CA, I think, who has 600 cats - looks like  
a great place.


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] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net

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I could sell my place and move there.  I only have 7 cats and if  
they dn't get alog well with yours, I could build them an outdoor  
day time house.  At night they could sleep in my bedroom like they  
do now.  I wouldn't mind takin on a few more cats.  Or waht about  
this guy in Oregon who bought 600 acres of an old tree farm.  He  
takes in strays, unwanteds and lets the roam the 600 acres.  He  
builds all kinds of houses for them to sleep in and spends the day  
checking up on them and giving each one some loving.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-11 Thread Bonnie Hogue
This is a huge problem:  being a rural area no one neuters their anmals,
just let them breed and then give the babies away...
If I could provide funds for animal welfare the majority would be to
free/low cost spay and neuter!   Preventing suffering is easier than
eliminating suffering.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 2:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

JUST HOW OLD IN THIS NATALIE?  i AM 70 AND HOPE TO BE HERE A FEW MORE YEARS.
Maybe we could get together and help each other out.  fATHER MADE IT TO 92.
SPEAKING OF HAVING A RESCUE/NO KLL SHELTER,  DO YOU HAVE TO BE LICENSED?  i
WAS THINKING of starting one and applying to cat food companies for $ off or
a dnation of food, maybe.  Then I could handle more than 7.  Right now,
between litter and food, my budget is stretched to it's limit.  All of you
who  rescue, have you tried this and did it work?  We have so many unwanted
cats around here thatI was thinking if I could start a cat only shelter that
would give PALS a break and they could concentrate on the dogs.  The have
been turning away cats and dogs because thy simply do not have the room and
they just got a larger facility so they could handle more.  So many in our
area have lost jobs, homes and cannot keep their pets.  Also, being a rural
area no one neuters their anmals, just let them breed and then give the
babies away to anyone who takes them.  Unfortunate because many who take
them do not take good care of them, just let them run loose and if they get
hit by a car o!
 r taken by a coyote, get another one.  Even PALS isn't too picky about who
takes them.  Thy are overrun so let them go without too many questions.  I
would probably go the other way and put them thru a background check before
I even interviewed them.  Then, I would end up keeping them because I could
not find anyone good enough for my babies.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 This Natalie may be long gone by the time you youngster kick the 
 bucket.unless a bucket kicks you first..
 
 Yes, I would take a few if I had an open condo, so don't go anywhere 
 yet, OK?
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen 
 Olvey
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 10:21 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
  
 
 I have so many foster failures that I have more cats than most people 
 so mine could never stay together (a lot of them wouldn't care).  So 
 here's my plan - my husband would keep several but he couldn't handle 
 keeping all of them by himself, and even if he did once he remarried I 
 doubt a new wife would want to take care of that many animals, so for 
 the rest my rescue would take a few of the younger, adoptable ones, I 
 have a couple of friends that would each take a few, then I know this 
 nice lady in CT that operates a rescue that can take the rest.  Her name
is Natalie.
 
 Except for one cat, she will go to someone with the e-mail address of 
 maima...@gmail.com.  That cat's name is Mai Mai so it's only 
 appropriate she goes to someone who has Mai Mai in her address!
 
 Her and her brother are named Mai  Thai, like the drink except that 
 there's an h in the tai word that normally isn't there.  So her name 
 is pronounced Mai like the drink but I call her Mai Mai.  Just to 
 clarify, the reason there's an h in Thai which isn't there in the 
 correct spelling of the drink (which is mai tai) is because my boy 
 Thai is an apple head Siamese (mix but looks almost pure) and the new 
 name for the traditional applehead Siamese cat is a Thai Cat.  So 
 after reading that for some reason I came up with Mai  Thai for those 
 two.  So anyway, I think Mai Mai should go with Mai Mai on her farm.  
 And if you're taking Mai Mai you might as well take Thai.
 
 I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that 
 are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it 
 inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward 
 it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without 
 looking further. - Mark Twain
 
  Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 19:52:14 -0500
  From: dlg...@windstream.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
  
  That is what really worries me. I am in pretty god shape, but 
  accidents do
 happen. That is why we have to have everything worked out now, 
 including the woever gets my cat(s) to let them know about thir
prsonality, food, etc.
   MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: 
   Amen
   On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Natalie wrote:
   
We don't have to be older to check out, we could be hit by a 
bus any dayyoung or old - therefore all of us should have a 
serious contingency plan for emergencies

Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-11 Thread Marcia Baronda
This man has put a lot of time and effort into this! This is a wonderful 
heartfelt endeavor. He must really love his cats. They certainly look healthy 
to me. I applaud him! I may just marry him(-:

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Sep 11, 2011, at 4:22 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 Check out the video in Atia's message.  I did and when I was viewing his 
 video, I checked out another from a girl who had pictures that suggested it 
 was not so good.  It was good that they get food and have houses to sleep in 
 and it is fenced, but just with a normal cyclone fence that cats and coyotes 
 cold easily get over.  And with that many cats and not much help in the 
 caring department, it is hard to see how he could keep up with who is 
 sick,hurt.  His video also said he bears most of the cost with some donations 
 to help.  I also worry about who will take over when he dies since he doesn't 
 look like a youngster.  Does he have provisions for continuing care of the 
 cats.  Also, if people take their pets to him expecting them to get the same 
 care they gave them, would they?  My guys go outside for 2 or 3 hour in the 
 day but they are inside at night and bad weather days.  The are used to 
 sleeping on my memory foam bed and me.  I do not think they would be happy 
 there.
  Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 Seems like I read the woman in CA does have her property fenced in.  She 
 doesn't actually have as much acreage as this other guy.  She has a staff of 
 like 25 people.  I never heard that about the other guy so who knows if his 
 property is fenced in.  But it seems like he takes in ferals and homeless 
 cats who have absolutely nowhere else to go so even if it isn't an ideal 
 home situation those cats are a lot better off with him.
 
 “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
 profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 
 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:21:51 -0400
 From: at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 Isn't that in Florida?  All little houses; but how does one keep track of 
 them out there, and so many, how can he know who's sick?  Don't they get 
 out?  Is it all fenced in?  I had so many questions when I saw the video
 Man builds cat-sized village for homeless cats: 
 http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/69/man-builds-cat-sized-village-for-homeless-cats.html
  . 
 There's also a woman in CA, I think, who has 600 cats - looks like a great 
 place.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:50 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 I could sell my place and move there.  I only have 7 cats and if they dn't 
 get alog well with yours, I could build them an outdoor day time house.  At 
 night they could sleep in my bedroom like they do now.  I wouldn't mind 
 takin on a few more cats.  Or waht about this guy in Oregon who bought 600 
 acres of an old tree farm.  He takes in strays, unwanteds and lets the roam 
 the 600 acres.  He builds all kinds of houses for them to sleep in and 
 spends the day checking up on them and giving each one some loving.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-11 Thread Natalie
I always joke with my friend that we should buy an island somewhere, move there 
with all of our animals, and of course, take a vet along(never mind a 
doctor for us) - we can always take a boat to the mainland, wherever it may be!

-Original Message-
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Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

ME TOO
 Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 Lynda - a house on the lake in a resort type atomsphere - I say leave the 
 husbands behind and enjoy ourselves.  With two of us we'd have time to take 
 care of the cats and still have fun!  Man - just sitting outside on the lake 
 watching the cats play in the enclosures sounds so relaxing.  I'm ready to 
 move right now.
  
 “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that 
 are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it 
 inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward 
 it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without 
 looking further.” – Mark Twain
  
 
 
 
 From: longhornf...@verizon.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 Lorrie,
  
 I like the way Maureen thinks!  I can help Maureen take care of all of 
 your cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding.  It would be a 
 great place to retire and between the two of us, we can take care of 
 all the furry babies!  Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0)
  
 L
 
 - Original Message -
 From: molvey...@hotmail.com
 To: Lorrie ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 9:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 Lorrie - I'll pack my bags and be right up.  Living on a lake taking care of 
 cats sounds awesome.  I'm 45 so hopefully will be around until all your cats 
 die!  Give me driving directions!!!  I'm a CPA so can work to keep your cats 
 in the lifestyle they're accustomed to living.
 
 Ok, just kidding.  Wish I could take off sometimes.  I've got a lot of cats 
 too, but unless something tragic happens hopefully I'll outlive them.  It's 
 scary to think about the future though because you just don't know what will 
 happen and when.
 
 I've missed a lot of this thread so I might have missed something but if 
 you're 78, then you could still outlive your cats.  My Grandmother is 92 and 
 lives in a small apartment on her own.  Best to make plans now of course but 
 by the time you're gone who knows what the situation will be.
 
 Tell your kids that you're leaving your house and money to them so between 
 the three of them they could make room for all the cats!  Fifteen cats split 
 three ways is no big deal.  Cats are pretty easy.  Tell them they could close 
 in their garage or build an extra room with your money and then enclose an 
 area of their yard for the cats to go in and that's all the cats would need.  
 Tell them if they don't you're writing them out of your will!
 
 
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 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 Date: Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:54 pm
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
  On 09-08, Gloria Lane wrote:
 
  I'm kindly pondering how to do that. Any web sites that address that 
  I wonder?
 
 There are many cat sanctuaries listed on the web, but most are full.
 Then too, many fail and become like hoarding places because they take 
 in too many cats to care for properly.  It is truly difficult to find 
 a good sanctuary, but I'll keep trying. If I knew who would take care 
 of my 15 cats I'd give them my house which is a lovely home in a 
 resort area on a lake.  It has been built around the needs of my cats, 
 and has three outside enclosures they can access from the inside via 
 cat flaps.  It is also in the woods on several acres with no traffic. 
 It is a paradise for my cats, and I just wish someone could let them 
 continue the happy life they know and love.
 I will not go to my grave and be at peace until I know my babies are 
 taken care of.
 
 Lorrie
 
  On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:00 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and 
   whatever may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be 
   used for their care until they all leave this world.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-11 Thread dlgegg
Originally my will left all to the children of 2 wonderful young people our 
family adopted and at the age  of 35 Figured they would be able to keep it a 
bit longer at that age.  But now they both have good positions and really would 
not need the money and will not want the house. They have their own home.  
Plus, I got a reverse mortgage this year and the house will be sold to cover 
the amount I owe.  The balance goes to the kids.  So, the more I think, and 
after all our discussions, I am thinking of changing the will to a trust for 
the cats or giving it to a shelter that has provided for the care of their 
animals when they pass.  Definetly for a lawyer to do so there will be no 
problems with family that suddently pops out of the woodwork swearing I was 
their favorite cousin and they knew I intended it for them.  My cats give me 
much love and a reason for getting up every morning so I think they deserve it.

 MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and whatever  
 may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be used for their  
 care until they all leave this world.
 On Sep 8, 2011, at 6:40 AM, Lorrie wrote:
 
  On 09-07, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
  It was the same with my Annie.  When her owner who was in hospice
  learned that they had found her a good home, she passed the next
  day.  She knew her baby was safe so she could go.  If I did not have
  a safe haven for my babies to go to, I guess I wuld just have to
  NOT die.  If I did not know thy would be secure and safe, I would
  not rest in peace.  I think I would be like Annie's owner was.  If
  you cannot find her a good home, put her to sleep.  Any port in a
  storm is not a good port, it has to be safe and secure.
 
 
  I am going to have to live forever!!   I have 15 cats and my family
  (three grown kids) can each take two, but I'm not able to find anyone
  to take the rest of my cats.  I've been on google for days searching
  out sanctuaries in the east, and so far all are FULL.  I'll keep
  trying, but I'm getting so discouraged.  These cats were all rescued
  kitties and they've been thru a lot before I found them. I love them
  very much and I'm worried sick about what will become of them. I have
  money for their care, but no one has offered to take one.  I'm now 78
  and my husband is almost 90.  I need to find homes, and I am offering
  $1,000 per cat.  Do any of you have any ideas what I can do?
 
  Lorrie in eastern WV almost to the Maryland border
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-11 Thread MaiMaiPG
Or shoot them or dump them orI suspect Bob is the only  
neutered dog in this area.  I want play dates for him but the dogs  
here run loose (Bob does too--under some supervision--but I am at the  
end of the road, backed by government land andThere is appx  
1/2 mile between the house and the gate/road but he doesn't get to  
stay out alone or for long times.Or they are chained or..cats  
fair a lot worse.  After all, no one thinks they need care and  
lovewonder what these people are going to thing when St. Francis  
joins St. Peter with a few  cats at his feet?

On Sep 11, 2011, at 4:49 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

This is a huge problem:  being a rural area no one neuters their  
anmals,

just let them breed and then give the babies away...
If I could provide funds for animal welfare the majority would be to
free/low cost spay and neuter!   Preventing suffering is easier than
eliminating suffering.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 2:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

JUST HOW OLD IN THIS NATALIE?  i AM 70 AND HOPE TO BE HERE A FEW  
MORE YEARS.
Maybe we could get together and help each other out.  fATHER MADE IT  
TO 92.
SPEAKING OF HAVING A RESCUE/NO KLL SHELTER,  DO YOU HAVE TO BE  
LICENSED?  i
WAS THINKING of starting one and applying to cat food companies for  
$ off or
a dnation of food, maybe.  Then I could handle more than 7.  Right  
now,
between litter and food, my budget is stretched to it's limit.  All  
of you
who  rescue, have you tried this and did it work?  We have so many  
unwanted
cats around here thatI was thinking if I could start a cat only  
shelter that
would give PALS a break and they could concentrate on the dogs.  The  
have
been turning away cats and dogs because thy simply do not have the  
room and
they just got a larger facility so they could handle more.  So many  
in our
area have lost jobs, homes and cannot keep their pets.  Also, being  
a rural
area no one neuters their anmals, just let them breed and then give  
the
babies away to anyone who takes them.  Unfortunate because many who  
take
them do not take good care of them, just let them run loose and if  
they get

hit by a car o!
r taken by a coyote, get another one.  Even PALS isn't too picky  
about who
takes them.  Thy are overrun so let them go without too many  
questions.  I
would probably go the other way and put them thru a background check  
before
I even interviewed them.  Then, I would end up keeping them because  
I could

not find anyone good enough for my babies.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

This Natalie may be long gone by the time you youngster kick the
bucket.unless a bucket kicks you first..

Yes, I would take a few if I had an open condo, so don't go anywhere
yet, OK?



From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen
Olvey
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 10:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)



I have so many foster failures that I have more cats than most people
so mine could never stay together (a lot of them wouldn't care).  So
here's my plan - my husband would keep several but he couldn't handle
keeping all of them by himself, and even if he did once he  
remarried I

doubt a new wife would want to take care of that many animals, so for
the rest my rescue would take a few of the younger, adoptable ones, I
have a couple of friends that would each take a few, then I know this
nice lady in CT that operates a rescue that can take the rest.  Her  
name

is Natalie.


Except for one cat, she will go to someone with the e-mail address of
maima...@gmail.com.  That cat's name is Mai Mai so it's only
appropriate she goes to someone who has Mai Mai in her address!

Her and her brother are named Mai  Thai, like the drink except that
there's an h in the tai word that normally isn't there.  So her  
name

is pronounced Mai like the drink but I call her Mai Mai.  Just to
clarify, the reason there's an h in Thai which isn't there in the
correct spelling of the drink (which is mai tai) is because my boy
Thai is an apple head Siamese (mix but looks almost pure) and the new
name for the traditional applehead Siamese cat is a Thai Cat.  So
after reading that for some reason I came up with Mai  Thai for  
those

two.  So anyway, I think Mai Mai should go with Mai Mai on her farm.
And if you're taking Mai Mai you might as well take Thai.

I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results  
that

are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it
inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward
it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without
looking further. - Mark Twain


Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 19

Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-11 Thread dlgegg
I think they will be wishing they had been kinder to animals.

 MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Or shoot them or dump them orI suspect Bob is the only  
 neutered dog in this area.  I want play dates for him but the dogs  
 here run loose (Bob does too--under some supervision--but I am at the  
 end of the road, backed by government land andThere is appx  
 1/2 mile between the house and the gate/road but he doesn't get to  
 stay out alone or for long times.Or they are chained or..cats  
 fair a lot worse.  After all, no one thinks they need care and  
 lovewonder what these people are going to thing when St. Francis  
 joins St. Peter with a few  cats at his feet?
 On Sep 11, 2011, at 4:49 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
 
  This is a huge problem:  being a rural area no one neuters their  
  anmals,
  just let them breed and then give the babies away...
  If I could provide funds for animal welfare the majority would be to
  free/low cost spay and neuter!   Preventing suffering is easier than
  eliminating suffering.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
  dlg...@windstream.net
  Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 2:12 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
  JUST HOW OLD IN THIS NATALIE?  i AM 70 AND HOPE TO BE HERE A FEW  
  MORE YEARS.
  Maybe we could get together and help each other out.  fATHER MADE IT  
  TO 92.
  SPEAKING OF HAVING A RESCUE/NO KLL SHELTER,  DO YOU HAVE TO BE  
  LICENSED?  i
  WAS THINKING of starting one and applying to cat food companies for  
  $ off or
  a dnation of food, maybe.  Then I could handle more than 7.  Right  
  now,
  between litter and food, my budget is stretched to it's limit.  All  
  of you
  who  rescue, have you tried this and did it work?  We have so many  
  unwanted
  cats around here thatI was thinking if I could start a cat only  
  shelter that
  would give PALS a break and they could concentrate on the dogs.  The  
  have
  been turning away cats and dogs because thy simply do not have the  
  room and
  they just got a larger facility so they could handle more.  So many  
  in our
  area have lost jobs, homes and cannot keep their pets.  Also, being  
  a rural
  area no one neuters their anmals, just let them breed and then give  
  the
  babies away to anyone who takes them.  Unfortunate because many who  
  take
  them do not take good care of them, just let them run loose and if  
  they get
  hit by a car o!
  r taken by a coyote, get another one.  Even PALS isn't too picky  
  about who
  takes them.  Thy are overrun so let them go without too many  
  questions.  I
  would probably go the other way and put them thru a background check  
  before
  I even interviewed them.  Then, I would end up keeping them because  
  I could
  not find anyone good enough for my babies.
   Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:
  This Natalie may be long gone by the time you youngster kick the
  bucket.unless a bucket kicks you first..
 
  Yes, I would take a few if I had an open condo, so don't go anywhere
  yet, OK?
 
 
 
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen
  Olvey
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 10:21 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 
 
  I have so many foster failures that I have more cats than most people
  so mine could never stay together (a lot of them wouldn't care).  So
  here's my plan - my husband would keep several but he couldn't handle
  keeping all of them by himself, and even if he did once he  
  remarried I
  doubt a new wife would want to take care of that many animals, so for
  the rest my rescue would take a few of the younger, adoptable ones, I
  have a couple of friends that would each take a few, then I know this
  nice lady in CT that operates a rescue that can take the rest.  Her  
  name
  is Natalie.
 
  Except for one cat, she will go to someone with the e-mail address of
  maima...@gmail.com.  That cat's name is Mai Mai so it's only
  appropriate she goes to someone who has Mai Mai in her address!
 
  Her and her brother are named Mai  Thai, like the drink except that
  there's an h in the tai word that normally isn't there.  So her  
  name
  is pronounced Mai like the drink but I call her Mai Mai.  Just to
  clarify, the reason there's an h in Thai which isn't there in the
  correct spelling of the drink (which is mai tai) is because my boy
  Thai is an apple head Siamese (mix but looks almost pure) and the new
  name for the traditional applehead Siamese cat is a Thai Cat.  So
  after reading that for some reason I came up with Mai  Thai for  
  those
  two.  So anyway, I think Mai Mai should go with Mai Mai on her farm.
  And if you're taking Mai Mai you might as well take Thai.
 
  I am not interested to know

Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-11 Thread dlgegg
Hey, that sounds good too!

 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 I always joke with my friend that we should buy an island somewhere, move 
 there with all of our animals, and of course, take a vet along(never mind 
 a doctor for us) - we can always take a boat to the mainland, wherever it may 
 be!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:35 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

ME TOO
 Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 Lynda - a house on the lake in a resort type atomsphere - I say leave the 
 husbands behind and enjoy ourselves.  With two of us we'd have time to take 
 care of the cats and still have fun!  Man - just sitting outside on the lake 
 watching the cats play in the enclosures sounds so relaxing.  I'm ready to 
 move right now.
  
 “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that 
 are profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it 
 inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward 
 it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without 
 looking further.” – Mark Twain
  
 
 
 
 From: longhornf...@verizon.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 
 
 
 
 Lorrie,
  
 I like the way Maureen thinks!  I can help Maureen take care of all of 
 your cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding.  It would be a 
 great place to retire and between the two of us, we can take care of 
 all the furry babies!  Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0)
  
 L
 
 - Original Message -
 From: molvey...@hotmail.com
 To: Lorrie ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 9:24 AM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 Lorrie - I'll pack my bags and be right up.  Living on a lake taking care of 
 cats sounds awesome.  I'm 45 so hopefully will be around until all your cats 
 die!  Give me driving directions!!!  I'm a CPA so can work to keep your cats 
 in the lifestyle they're accustomed to living.
 
 Ok, just kidding.  Wish I could take off sometimes.  I've got a lot of cats 
 too, but unless something tragic happens hopefully I'll outlive them.  It's 
 scary to think about the future though because you just don't know what will 
 happen and when.
 
 I've missed a lot of this thread so I might have missed something but if 
 you're 78, then you could still outlive your cats.  My Grandmother is 92 and 
 lives in a small apartment on her own.  Best to make plans now of course but 
 by the time you're gone who knows what the situation will be.
 
 Tell your kids that you're leaving your house and money to them so between 
 the three of them they could make room for all the cats!  Fifteen cats split 
 three ways is no big deal.  Cats are pretty easy.  Tell them they could close 
 in their garage or build an extra room with your money and then enclose an 
 area of their yard for the cats to go in and that's all the cats would need.  
 Tell them if they don't you're writing them out of your will!
 
 
 sent from my ATT Smartphone by HTC
 
 - Reply message -
 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 Date: Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:54 pm
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
  On 09-08, Gloria Lane wrote:
 
  I'm kindly pondering how to do that. Any web sites that address that 
  I wonder?
 
 There are many cat sanctuaries listed on the web, but most are full.
 Then too, many fail and become like hoarding places because they take 
 in too many cats to care for properly.  It is truly difficult to find 
 a good sanctuary, but I'll keep trying. If I knew who would take care 
 of my 15 cats I'd give them my house which is a lovely home in a 
 resort area on a lake.  It has been built around the needs of my cats, 
 and has three outside enclosures they can access from the inside via 
 cat flaps.  It is also in the woods on several acres with no traffic. 
 It is a paradise for my cats, and I just wish someone could let them 
 continue the happy life they know and love.
 I will not go to my grave and be at peace until I know my babies are 
 taken care of.
 
 Lorrie
 
  On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:00 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:
  
   I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and 
   whatever may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be 
   used for their care until they all leave this world.
 
 WHO WILL HANDLE YOUR TRUST AND BE SURE YOUR CATS ARE CARED FOR?
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-11 Thread dlgegg
I thought about this too, but he might not let me bring them in the house 
because I felt guilty leaving them outside.

 Marcia Baronda marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote: 
 This man has put a lot of time and effort into this! This is a wonderful 
 heartfelt endeavor. He must really love his cats. They certainly look healthy 
 to me. I applaud him! I may just marry him(-:

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Sep 11, 2011, at 4:22 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 Check out the video in Atia's message.  I did and when I was viewing his 
 video, I checked out another from a girl who had pictures that suggested it 
 was not so good.  It was good that they get food and have houses to sleep in 
 and it is fenced, but just with a normal cyclone fence that cats and coyotes 
 cold easily get over.  And with that many cats and not much help in the 
 caring department, it is hard to see how he could keep up with who is 
 sick,hurt.  His video also said he bears most of the cost with some donations 
 to help.  I also worry about who will take over when he dies since he doesn't 
 look like a youngster.  Does he have provisions for continuing care of the 
 cats.  Also, if people take their pets to him expecting them to get the same 
 care they gave them, would they?  My guys go outside for 2 or 3 hour in the 
 day but they are inside at night and bad weather days.  The are used to 
 sleeping on my memory foam bed and me.  I do not think they would be happy 
 there.
  Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: 
 
 Seems like I read the woman in CA does have her property fenced in.  She 
 doesn't actually have as much acreage as this other guy.  She has a staff of 
 like 25 people.  I never heard that about the other guy so who knows if his 
 property is fenced in.  But it seems like he takes in ferals and homeless 
 cats who have absolutely nowhere else to go so even if it isn't an ideal 
 home situation those cats are a lot better off with him.
 
 “I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
 profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
 unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
 sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 
 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:21:51 -0400
 From: at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 Isn't that in Florida?  All little houses; but how does one keep track of 
 them out there, and so many, how can he know who's sick?  Don't they get 
 out?  Is it all fenced in?  I had so many questions when I saw the video
 Man builds cat-sized village for homeless cats: 
 http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/69/man-builds-cat-sized-village-for-homeless-cats.html
  . 
 There's also a woman in CA, I think, who has 600 cats - looks like a great 
 place.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:50 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 I could sell my place and move there.  I only have 7 cats and if they dn't 
 get alog well with yours, I could build them an outdoor day time house.  At 
 night they could sleep in my bedroom like they do now.  I wouldn't mind 
 takin on a few more cats.  Or waht about this guy in Oregon who bought 600 
 acres of an old tree farm.  He takes in strays, unwanteds and lets the roam 
 the 600 acres.  He builds all kinds of houses for them to sleep in and 
 spends the day checking up on them and giving each one some loving.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-11 Thread Natalie
My motto is: Please spay/neuter your pets; prevention is kinder than
destruction!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 5:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

This is a huge problem:  being a rural area no one neuters their anmals,
just let them breed and then give the babies away...
If I could provide funds for animal welfare the majority would be to
free/low cost spay and neuter!   Preventing suffering is easier than
eliminating suffering.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Sunday, September 11, 2011 2:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

JUST HOW OLD IN THIS NATALIE?  i AM 70 AND HOPE TO BE HERE A FEW MORE YEARS.
Maybe we could get together and help each other out.  fATHER MADE IT TO 92.
SPEAKING OF HAVING A RESCUE/NO KLL SHELTER,  DO YOU HAVE TO BE LICENSED?  i
WAS THINKING of starting one and applying to cat food companies for $ off or
a dnation of food, maybe.  Then I could handle more than 7.  Right now,
between litter and food, my budget is stretched to it's limit.  All of you
who  rescue, have you tried this and did it work?  We have so many unwanted
cats around here thatI was thinking if I could start a cat only shelter that
would give PALS a break and they could concentrate on the dogs.  The have
been turning away cats and dogs because thy simply do not have the room and
they just got a larger facility so they could handle more.  So many in our
area have lost jobs, homes and cannot keep their pets.  Also, being a rural
area no one neuters their anmals, just let them breed and then give the
babies away to anyone who takes them.  Unfortunate because many who take
them do not take good care of them, just let them run loose and if they get
hit by a car o!
 r taken by a coyote, get another one.  Even PALS isn't too picky about who
takes them.  Thy are overrun so let them go without too many questions.  I
would probably go the other way and put them thru a background check before
I even interviewed them.  Then, I would end up keeping them because I could
not find anyone good enough for my babies.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 This Natalie may be long gone by the time you youngster kick the 
 bucket.unless a bucket kicks you first..
 
 Yes, I would take a few if I had an open condo, so don't go anywhere 
 yet, OK?
 
  
 
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen 
 Olvey
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 10:21 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
  
 
 I have so many foster failures that I have more cats than most people 
 so mine could never stay together (a lot of them wouldn't care).  So 
 here's my plan - my husband would keep several but he couldn't handle 
 keeping all of them by himself, and even if he did once he remarried I 
 doubt a new wife would want to take care of that many animals, so for 
 the rest my rescue would take a few of the younger, adoptable ones, I 
 have a couple of friends that would each take a few, then I know this 
 nice lady in CT that operates a rescue that can take the rest.  Her 
 name
is Natalie.
 
 Except for one cat, she will go to someone with the e-mail address of 
 maima...@gmail.com.  That cat's name is Mai Mai so it's only 
 appropriate she goes to someone who has Mai Mai in her address!
 
 Her and her brother are named Mai  Thai, like the drink except that 
 there's an h in the tai word that normally isn't there.  So her name 
 is pronounced Mai like the drink but I call her Mai Mai.  Just to 
 clarify, the reason there's an h in Thai which isn't there in the 
 correct spelling of the drink (which is mai tai) is because my boy 
 Thai is an apple head Siamese (mix but looks almost pure) and the new 
 name for the traditional applehead Siamese cat is a Thai Cat.  So 
 after reading that for some reason I came up with Mai  Thai for those 
 two.  So anyway, I think Mai Mai should go with Mai Mai on her farm.
 And if you're taking Mai Mai you might as well take Thai.
 
 I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that 
 are profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it 
 inflicts upon unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward 
 it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without 
 looking further. - Mark Twain
 
  Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 19:52:14 -0500
  From: dlg...@windstream.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
  
  That is what really worries me. I am in pretty god shape, but 
  accidents do
 happen. That is why we have to have everything worked out now, 
 including the woever gets my cat(s

Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-10 Thread Natalie
This Natalie may be long gone by the time you youngster kick the
bucket.unless a bucket kicks you first..

Yes, I would take a few if I had an open condo, so don't go anywhere yet,
OK?

 

From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 10:21 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

 

I have so many foster failures that I have more cats than most people so
mine could never stay together (a lot of them wouldn't care).  So here's my
plan - my husband would keep several but he couldn't handle keeping all of
them by himself, and even if he did once he remarried I doubt a new wife
would want to take care of that many animals, so for the rest my rescue
would take a few of the younger, adoptable ones, I have a couple of friends
that would each take a few, then I know this nice lady in CT that operates a
rescue that can take the rest.  Her name is Natalie.  

Except for one cat, she will go to someone with the e-mail address of
maima...@gmail.com.  That cat's name is Mai Mai so it's only appropriate she
goes to someone who has Mai Mai in her address!  

Her and her brother are named Mai  Thai, like the drink except that there's
an h in the tai word that normally isn't there.  So her name is pronounced
Mai like the drink but I call her Mai Mai.  Just to clarify, the reason
there's an h in Thai which isn't there in the correct spelling of the
drink (which is mai tai) is because my boy Thai is an apple head Siamese
(mix but looks almost pure) and the new name for the traditional applehead
Siamese cat is a Thai Cat.  So after reading that for some reason I came up
with Mai  Thai for those two.  So anyway, I think Mai Mai should go with
Mai Mai on her farm.  And if you're taking Mai Mai you might as well take
Thai.

I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are
profitable to the human race or doesn't..the pain which it inflicts upon
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further. - Mark
Twain

 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 19:52:14 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 That is what really worries me. I am in pretty god shape, but accidents do
happen. That is why we have to have everything worked out now, including the
woever gets my cat(s) to let them know about thir prsonality, food, etc.
  MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Amen
  On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Natalie wrote:
  
   We don't have to be older to check out, we could be hit by a bus any
   dayyoung or old - therefore all of us should have a serious 
   contingency
   plan for emergencies!
  
   -Original Message-
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
   Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:47 PM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
  
   Hey, I love you two!!! I wish you really could move here when the
   time comes. I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan on 
   checkin'
   out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because it could 
   happen.
   .
   For the record my three kids are older than you two girls. My son is 
   56,
   middle daughter 54 and youngest daughter just turned 50. All of them 
   adore
   cats, but they already have a bunch of their own. My youngest 
   daughter has
   11 cats, and the others have a several cats and dogs. I know they 
   wouldn't
   just dump my cats, because they are great kids, but they would have a
   problem taking all 15 of mine.
   .
   Now just in case you two are really thinking of coming here you can 
   look up
   www.alpinelakeresort.com It's in the eastern mountains of WV just 
   ten miles
   from the Maryland border. Summers here are wonderful with 
   temperatures
   seldom above 75 - 80, but beware, in the winter we get LOTS of snow.
  
   Anyway, regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me 
   some hope
   for the future of my kitty kats. BTW, Maureen, my cats like strange
   people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-).
  
   Lorrie
  
   On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote:
   See Lorrie - now everything has been worked out! So tell your 
   three
   kids if they don't get off their butts and offer to take your 
   babies
   in that you're going to have two strange women (well, I'm 
   strange
   anyway) living in your house taking care of your animals. And 
   we're
   not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!!
  
   From: longhornf...@verizon.net
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
   Lorrie,
  
   I like the way Maureen thinks! I can help Maureen take care of 
   all of
   your cats, I love her idea even though she's

Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever

2011-09-10 Thread Lorrie
On 09-09, Natalie wrote:
 I started a hard file (we have it on the computer, but nobody would know how
 to get it): Pictures of individual cats, medical history, descriptions of
 personality, likes/dislikes, etc.

I've got it in my computer, and on a written list.  Photos of each
cat, their dispositions, who hates who :-)  as well as their health
records. This will help a lot when the time comes, and my son is also
very familiar with each of my cats.

Lorrie

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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-10 Thread Lorrie
On 09-09, Natalie wrote:
 Isn't that in Florida?  All little houses; but how does one keep track of 
 them out there, and so many, how can he know who's sick?  Don't they get out? 
  Is it all fenced in?  I had so many questions when I saw the video
 Man builds cat-sized village for homeless cats: 
 http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/69/man-builds-cat-sized-village-for-homeless-cats.html
  . 
 There's also a woman in CA, I think, who has 600 cats - looks like a great 
 place.

The place in Florida is called Caboodle Ranch and it looked
wonderful, but their entrance fee is only $150. per cat which raised
a red flag for me.  I don't see how they can give lifetime care to
cats for that little amount.

The place in CA is Cat House on the Kings.  She has 700 cats and they
just did a show on TV about her called, The Woman With 700 Cats. She
has 25 employees and the place looks great.  


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2011-09-10 Thread ccarlsberg
I have spoken with the cat house lady. She won't take FELVs, only FIVs. 
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On 09-09, Natalie wrote:
 Isn't that in Florida?  All little houses; but how does one keep track of 
 them out there, and so many, how can he know who's sick?  Don't they get out? 
  Is it all fenced in?  I had so many questions when I saw the video
 Man builds cat-sized village for homeless cats: 
 http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/69/man-builds-cat-sized-village-for-homeless-cats.html
  . 
 There's also a woman in CA, I think, who has 600 cats - looks like a great 
 place.

The place in Florida is called Caboodle Ranch and it looked
wonderful, but their entrance fee is only $150. per cat which raised
a red flag for me.  I don't see how they can give lifetime care to
cats for that little amount.

The place in CA is Cat House on the Kings.  She has 700 cats and they
just did a show on TV about her called, The Woman With 700 Cats. She
has 25 employees and the place looks great.  


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2011-09-10 Thread dlgegg
That was an eye opener!  When you go to another video from that site, you see 
the answers to those questions.  He cannot keep track of them and they do not 
get any special care needed.  My babies are used to being inside and outside, 
not out all day subject to attack from coyotes, etc.  I know he has good 
intentions, but intentions are not always enough.  They need protection, 
medical care and many need special food.  Purina is not always the best.  Sad, 
it had such promise.


 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 On 09-09, Natalie wrote:
  Isn't that in Florida?  All little houses; but how does one keep track of 
  them out there, and so many, how can he know who's sick?  Don't they get 
  out?  Is it all fenced in?  I had so many questions when I saw the video
  Man builds cat-sized village for homeless cats: 
  http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/69/man-builds-cat-sized-village-for-homeless-cats.html
   . 
  There's also a woman in CA, I think, who has 600 cats - looks like a great 
  place.
 
 The place in Florida is called Caboodle Ranch and it looked
 wonderful, but their entrance fee is only $150. per cat which raised
 a red flag for me.  I don't see how they can give lifetime care to
 cats for that little amount.
 
 The place in CA is Cat House on the Kings.  She has 700 cats and they
 just did a show on TV about her called, The Woman With 700 Cats. She
 has 25 employees and the place looks great.  
 
 
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2011-09-10 Thread dlgegg
I don't have the know how to keep afile on the computer, but plan to take a 
course to learn how.  I do have written letters on each as I know it would have 
been much easier for each one to adapt if I had known about certain personality 
traits. How can you send an animal to someone else and expect them to give them 
what they need when they don't know what they are dealing with. 

 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 On 09-09, Natalie wrote:
  I started a hard file (we have it on the computer, but nobody would know how
  to get it): Pictures of individual cats, medical history, descriptions of
  personality, likes/dislikes, etc.
 
 I've got it in my computer, and on a written list.  Photos of each
 cat, their dispositions, who hates who :-)  as well as their health
 records. This will help a lot when the time comes, and my son is also
 very familiar with each of my cats.
 
 Lorrie
 
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2011-09-10 Thread dlgegg
Wonder why she won't take FELV's?  Did she give a reason?

 ccarlsb...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I have spoken with the cat house lady. She won't take FELVs, only FIVs. 
 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
 
 -Original Message-
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 Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:06:17 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 On 09-09, Natalie wrote:
  Isn't that in Florida?  All little houses; but how does one keep track of 
  them out there, and so many, how can he know who's sick?  Don't they get 
  out?  Is it all fenced in?  I had so many questions when I saw the video
  Man builds cat-sized village for homeless cats: 
  http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/69/man-builds-cat-sized-village-for-homeless-cats.html
   . 
  There's also a woman in CA, I think, who has 600 cats - looks like a great 
  place.
 
 The place in Florida is called Caboodle Ranch and it looked
 wonderful, but their entrance fee is only $150. per cat which raised
 a red flag for me.  I don't see how they can give lifetime care to
 cats for that little amount.
 
 The place in CA is Cat House on the Kings.  She has 700 cats and they
 just did a show on TV about her called, The Woman With 700 Cats. She
 has 25 employees and the place looks great.  
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-10 Thread Natalie
Most likely because FIV+ cats can definitely live together with no worry
about infection (unless they have fierce fights!).

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Wonder why she won't take FELV's?  Did she give a reason?

 ccarlsb...@gmail.com wrote: 
 I have spoken with the cat house lady. She won't take FELVs, only FIVs. 
 Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
 
 -Original Message-
 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Sat, 10 Sep 2011 17:06:17
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 On 09-09, Natalie wrote:
  Isn't that in Florida?  All little houses; but how does one keep track
of them out there, and so many, how can he know who's sick?  Don't they get
out?  Is it all fenced in?  I had so many questions when I saw the video
  Man builds cat-sized village for homeless cats:
http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/69/man-builds-cat-sized-village-f
or-homeless-cats.html . 
  There's also a woman in CA, I think, who has 600 cats - looks like a
great place.
 
 The place in Florida is called Caboodle Ranch and it looked wonderful, 
 but their entrance fee is only $150. per cat which raised a red flag 
 for me.  I don't see how they can give lifetime care to cats for that 
 little amount.
 
 The place in CA is Cat House on the Kings.  She has 700 cats and they 
 just did a show on TV about her called, The Woman With 700 Cats. She 
 has 25 employees and the place looks great.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-09 Thread Lorrie
On 09-08, MaiMaiPG wrote:
 I have a close friend who is as much an animal lover as I am who will  
 handle it.

It would be a great comfort to have a friend like that.  Lucky you!


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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-09 Thread Lorrie
On 09-08, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 I WOULD NOT GO TO HUMANE SOCIETY, ESPECIALLY IF ANY OF MY CATS ARE
 FELV OR FIV POSITIVE.  THEY WOULD PUT THEM TO SLEEP WITHOUT EVEN
 TRYING TO FIND A HOME WILLING TO TAKE THEM.

None of my cats are FelV or FIV, but our humane society here sucks.
Pardon the expression.  There are only about 8 active members and 
they all love dogs.  Cats are totally ignored.  I joined years ago,
but dropped out when I found out how little help they give cats.

Lorrie

  Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: 

  If  money isn't the problem, why not contact the Humane Society
  or another non-profit animal organization.  You could leave your
  property to the organization with the stipulation that your
  animals be cared for (and you could define what that means).  If
  you are wealthy enough, you may even provide a salary to a care
  taker.  When the animals are gone from the world, then the
  property conveys to the organization.  Thoughts being (a) they
  are organized enough to handle such a thing, (b) they are ethical
  enough not to 'off the kitties' to get the 'goodies' and (c) as
  an organization it takes the worry out of finding someone because
  they are set up, trained and should be very willing to do this. 
  I'd talk with them (whomever you think is appropriate). For most
  of us, it is not just finding a trustworthy care giver, it's
  having enough money to provide for them and the cats.  If you
  have property (and other wealth) this could make all the
  difference for your feline family.  I don't know about you, but I
  always feel nobody loves them like I do...which may be true,
  but to ensure they're cared for is a burden relieved. ~Bonnie
  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-09 Thread Lorrie
On 09-08, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

 For most of us, it is not just finding a trustworthy care giver,
 it's having enough money to provide for them and the cats.  If you
 have property (and other wealth) this could make all the difference
 for your feline family.  I don't know about you, but I always feel
 nobody loves them like I do...which may be true, but to ensure
 they're cared for is a burden relieved. ~Bonnie

I know what you mean about thinking no one can love them like I do,
and I also worry about someone taking what money they get for each
cat and then dumping the cat and spending the money.

I am not wealthy, just comfortable from a small inheritance my
parents left me.   I have to be careful with my money, but I have
enough saved up for the care of my cats. It's the person who will
care for them that's my huge concern.

Lorrie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-09 Thread molveywda
Lorrie - I'll pack my bags and be right up.  Living on a lake taking care of 
cats sounds awesome.  I'm 45 so hopefully will be around until all your cats 
die!  Give me driving directions!!!  I'm a CPA so can work to keep your cats in 
the lifestyle they're accustomed to living.

Ok, just kidding.  Wish I could take off sometimes.  I've got a lot of cats 
too, but unless something tragic happens hopefully I'll outlive them.  It's 
scary to think about the future though because you just don't know what will 
happen and when.

I've missed a lot of this thread so I might have missed something but if you're 
78, then you could still outlive your cats.  My Grandmother is 92 and lives in 
a small apartment on her own.  Best to make plans now of course but by the time 
you're gone who knows what the situation will be.

Tell your kids that you're leaving your house and money to them so between the 
three of them they could make room for all the cats!  Fifteen cats split three 
ways is no big deal.  Cats are pretty easy.  Tell them they could close in 
their garage or build an extra room with your money and then enclose an area of 
their yard for the cats to go in and that's all the cats would need.  Tell them 
if they don't you're writing them out of your will!


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From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
Date: Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:54 pm
Subject: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 On 09-08, Gloria Lane wrote:

 I'm kindly pondering how to do that. Any web sites that address
 that I wonder?

There are many cat sanctuaries listed on the web, but most are full.
Then too, many fail and become like hoarding places because they take
in too many cats to care for properly.  It is truly difficult to find
a good sanctuary, but I'll keep trying. If I knew who would take care
of my 15 cats I'd give them my house which is a lovely home in a
resort area on a lake.  It has been built around the needs of my
cats, and has three outside enclosures they can access from the
inside via cat flaps.  It is also in the woods on several acres 
with no traffic. It is a paradise for my cats, and I just wish
someone could let them continue the happy life they know and love.
I will not go to my grave and be at peace until I know my babies
are taken care of.

Lorrie
 
 On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:00 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and
  whatever may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be
  used for their care until they all leave this world.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-09 Thread molveywda
Not all humane societies are that bad and some will take in less than perfect 
cats but you really have to look and get to know the people in the humane 
society.  See how they've handled situations before and if they take in older 
or FeLV or FIV cats when they run across them.  There are several ladies in my 
humane society that I would not have a problem letting my cats go to because 
they're awesome and as picky as I am about finding the right homes for them.  
I'm pretty lucky with my humane society.  In general they're great folks and 
really really love the animals.  I've worked with them for eight years so I 
know them all well.

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From: dlgegg dlg...@windstream.net
Date: Fri, Sep 9, 2011 12:16 am
Subject: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

I WOULDNOT GO TO HUMANE SOCIETY, ESPEIALLY IF ANY OF MY CATS ARE FELV OR FIV 
POSITIVE.  THEY WOULD PUT  THEM TO SLEEP WITHOUT EVEN TRYING TO FIND A HOME 
WILLING TO TAKE THEM.
 Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: 
 If  money isn't the problem, why not contact the Humane Society or another
 non-profit animal organization.  You could leave your property to the
 organization with the stipulation that your animals be cared for (and you
 could define what that means).  If you are wealthy enough, you may even
 provide a salary to a care taker.  When the animals are gone from the world,
 then the property conveys to the organization.  Thoughts being (a) they are
 organized enough to handle such a thing, (b) they are ethical enough not to
 'off the kitties' to get the 'goodies' and (c) as an organization it takes
 the worry out of finding someone because they are set up, trained and should
 be very willing to do this.  I'd talk with them (whomever you think is
 appropriate).
 For most of us, it is not just finding a trustworthy care giver, it's having
 enough money to provide for them and the cats.   If you have property (and
 other wealth) this could make all the difference for your feline family.  I
 don't know about you, but I always feel nobody loves them like I
 do...which may be true, but to ensure they're cared for is a burden
 relieved.
 ~Bonnie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:43 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 I have provided for my cats in my will too. There is plenty of money for
 their care, but WHO WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM?  With 15 cats this is the
 problem.  Not the money.  
  .
 
   On 09-08, MaiMaiPG wrote:
 
  I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and whatever 
  may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be used for their 
  care until they all leave this world.
 
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-09 Thread Lynda Wilson
Lorrie,

I like the way Maureen thinks!  I can help Maureen take care of all of your 
cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding.  It would be a great place to 
retire and between the two of us, we can take care of all the furry babies!  
Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0)

L
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  From: molvey...@hotmail.com 
  To: Lorrie ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 9:24 AM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)


  Lorrie - I'll pack my bags and be right up.  Living on a lake taking care of 
cats sounds awesome.  I'm 45 so hopefully will be around until all your cats 
die!  Give me driving directions!!!  I'm a CPA so can work to keep your cats in 
the lifestyle they're accustomed to living.

  Ok, just kidding.  Wish I could take off sometimes.  I've got a lot of cats 
too, but unless something tragic happens hopefully I'll outlive them.  It's 
scary to think about the future though because you just don't know what will 
happen and when.

  I've missed a lot of this thread so I might have missed something but if 
you're 78, then you could still outlive your cats.  My Grandmother is 92 and 
lives in a small apartment on her own.  Best to make plans now of course but by 
the time you're gone who knows what the situation will be.

  Tell your kids that you're leaving your house and money to them so between 
the three of them they could make room for all the cats!  Fifteen cats split 
three ways is no big deal.  Cats are pretty easy.  Tell them they could close 
in their garage or build an extra room with your money and then enclose an area 
of their yard for the cats to go in and that's all the cats would need.  Tell 
them if they don't you're writing them out of your will!


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  - Reply message -
  From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
  Date: Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:54 pm
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

   On 09-08, Gloria Lane wrote:

   I'm kindly pondering how to do that. Any web sites that address
   that I wonder?

  There are many cat sanctuaries listed on the web, but most are full.
  Then too, many fail and become like hoarding places because they take
  in too many cats to care for properly.  It is truly difficult to find
  a good sanctuary, but I'll keep trying. If I knew who would take care
  of my 15 cats I'd give them my house which is a lovely home in a
  resort area on a lake.  It has been built around the needs of my
  cats, and has three outside enclosures they can access from the
  inside via cat flaps.  It is also in the woods on several acres 
  with no traffic. It is a paradise for my cats, and I just wish
  someone could let them continue the happy life they know and love.
  I will not go to my grave and be at peace until I know my babies
  are taken care of.

  Lorrie

   On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:00 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:
   
I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and
whatever may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be
used for their care until they all leave this world.

  WHO WILL HANDLE YOUR TRUST AND BE SURE YOUR CATS ARE CARED FOR?


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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-09 Thread Maureen Olvey

See Lorrie - now everything has been worked out!  So tell your three kids if 
they don't get off their butts and offer to take your babies in that you're 
going to have two strange women (well, I'm strange anyway) living in your house 
taking care of your animals.  And we're not going to let them come enjoy the 
lake either!!!
 
And people wonder why I don't have kids.


“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 



From: longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)





Lorrie,
 
I like the way Maureen thinks!  I can help Maureen take care of all of your 
cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding.  It would be a great place to 
retire and between the two of us, we can take care of all the furry babies!  
Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0)
 
L

- Original Message - 
From: molvey...@hotmail.com 
To: Lorrie ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

Lorrie - I'll pack my bags and be right up.  Living on a lake taking care of 
cats sounds awesome.  I'm 45 so hopefully will be around until all your cats 
die!  Give me driving directions!!!  I'm a CPA so can work to keep your cats in 
the lifestyle they're accustomed to living.

Ok, just kidding.  Wish I could take off sometimes.  I've got a lot of cats 
too, but unless something tragic happens hopefully I'll outlive them.  It's 
scary to think about the future though because you just don't know what will 
happen and when.

I've missed a lot of this thread so I might have missed something but if you're 
78, then you could still outlive your cats.  My Grandmother is 92 and lives in 
a small apartment on her own.  Best to make plans now of course but by the time 
you're gone who knows what the situation will be.

Tell your kids that you're leaving your house and money to them so between the 
three of them they could make room for all the cats!  Fifteen cats split three 
ways is no big deal.  Cats are pretty easy.  Tell them they could close in 
their garage or build an extra room with your money and then enclose an area of 
their yard for the cats to go in and that's all the cats would need.  Tell them 
if they don't you're writing them out of your will!


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- Reply message -
From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
Date: Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:54 pm
Subject: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 On 09-08, Gloria Lane wrote:

 I'm kindly pondering how to do that. Any web sites that address
 that I wonder?

There are many cat sanctuaries listed on the web, but most are full.
Then too, many fail and become like hoarding places because they take
in too many cats to care for properly.  It is truly difficult to find
a good sanctuary, but I'll keep trying. If I knew who would take care
of my 15 cats I'd give them my house which is a lovely home in a
resort area on a lake.  It has been built around the needs of my
cats, and has three outside enclosures they can access from the
inside via cat flaps.  It is also in the woods on several acres 
with no traffic. It is a paradise for my cats, and I just wish
someone could let them continue the happy life they know and love.
I will not go to my grave and be at peace until I know my babies
are taken care of.

Lorrie

 On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:00 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and
  whatever may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be
  used for their care until they all leave this world.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-09 Thread Maureen Olvey

Lynda - a house on the lake in a resort type atomsphere - I say leave the 
husbands behind and enjoy ourselves.  With two of us we'd have time to take 
care of the cats and still have fun!  Man - just sitting outside on the lake 
watching the cats play in the enclosures sounds so relaxing.  I'm ready to move 
right now.
 
“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain
 



From: longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)





Lorrie,
 
I like the way Maureen thinks!  I can help Maureen take care of all of your 
cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding.  It would be a great place to 
retire and between the two of us, we can take care of all the furry babies!  
Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0)
 
L

- Original Message - 
From: molvey...@hotmail.com 
To: Lorrie ; felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 9:24 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

Lorrie - I'll pack my bags and be right up.  Living on a lake taking care of 
cats sounds awesome.  I'm 45 so hopefully will be around until all your cats 
die!  Give me driving directions!!!  I'm a CPA so can work to keep your cats in 
the lifestyle they're accustomed to living.

Ok, just kidding.  Wish I could take off sometimes.  I've got a lot of cats 
too, but unless something tragic happens hopefully I'll outlive them.  It's 
scary to think about the future though because you just don't know what will 
happen and when.

I've missed a lot of this thread so I might have missed something but if you're 
78, then you could still outlive your cats.  My Grandmother is 92 and lives in 
a small apartment on her own.  Best to make plans now of course but by the time 
you're gone who knows what the situation will be.

Tell your kids that you're leaving your house and money to them so between the 
three of them they could make room for all the cats!  Fifteen cats split three 
ways is no big deal.  Cats are pretty easy.  Tell them they could close in 
their garage or build an extra room with your money and then enclose an area of 
their yard for the cats to go in and that's all the cats would need.  Tell them 
if they don't you're writing them out of your will!


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From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
Date: Thu, Sep 8, 2011 6:54 pm
Subject: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 On 09-08, Gloria Lane wrote:

 I'm kindly pondering how to do that. Any web sites that address
 that I wonder?

There are many cat sanctuaries listed on the web, but most are full.
Then too, many fail and become like hoarding places because they take
in too many cats to care for properly.  It is truly difficult to find
a good sanctuary, but I'll keep trying. If I knew who would take care
of my 15 cats I'd give them my house which is a lovely home in a
resort area on a lake.  It has been built around the needs of my
cats, and has three outside enclosures they can access from the
inside via cat flaps.  It is also in the woods on several acres 
with no traffic. It is a paradise for my cats, and I just wish
someone could let them continue the happy life they know and love.
I will not go to my grave and be at peace until I know my babies
are taken care of.

Lorrie

 On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:00 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and
  whatever may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be
  used for their care until they all leave this world.

WHO WILL HANDLE YOUR TRUST AND BE SURE YOUR CATS ARE CARED FOR?


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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-09 Thread Lorrie
Hey, I love you two!!!   I wish you really could move here when the
time comes.  I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan on
checkin' out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because it
could happen.
.
For the record my three kids are older than you two girls. My son is
56, middle daughter 54 and youngest daughter just turned 50. All of
them adore cats, but they already have a bunch of their own.  My
youngest daughter has 11 cats, and the others have a several cats and
dogs. I know they wouldn't just dump my cats, because they are great
kids, but they would have a problem taking all 15 of mine.
.
Now just in case you two are really thinking of coming here you can
look up www.alpinelakeresort.com It's in the eastern mountains of WV
just ten miles from the Maryland border.  Summers here are wonderful
with temperatures seldom above 75 - 80, but beware, in the winter we
get LOTS of snow.

Anyway,  regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me some 
hope for the future of my kitty kats.  BTW, Maureen,  my cats like
strange people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-).

Lorrie 
 
On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote:
See  Lorrie  - now everything has been worked out!  So tell your three
kids  if  they don't get off their butts and offer to take your babies
in that  you're  going  to  have  two strange women (well, I'm strange
anyway)  living  in your house taking care of your animals.  And we're
not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!!
 
From: longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
Lorrie,
 
I like the way Maureen thinks!  I can help Maureen take care of all of
your  cats,  I love her idea even though she's kidding.  It would be a
great  place  to retire and between the two of us, we can take care of
all the furry babies!  Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0)
 
L
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-09 Thread Natalie
We don't have to be older to check out, we could be hit by a bus any
dayyoung or old - therefore all of us should have a serious contingency
plan for emergencies!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

Hey, I love you two!!!   I wish you really could move here when the
time comes.  I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan on checkin'
out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because it could happen.
.
For the record my three kids are older than you two girls. My son is 56,
middle daughter 54 and youngest daughter just turned 50. All of them adore
cats, but they already have a bunch of their own.  My youngest daughter has
11 cats, and the others have a several cats and dogs. I know they wouldn't
just dump my cats, because they are great kids, but they would have a
problem taking all 15 of mine.
.
Now just in case you two are really thinking of coming here you can look up
www.alpinelakeresort.com It's in the eastern mountains of WV just ten miles
from the Maryland border.  Summers here are wonderful with temperatures
seldom above 75 - 80, but beware, in the winter we get LOTS of snow.

Anyway,  regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me some hope
for the future of my kitty kats.  BTW, Maureen,  my cats like strange
people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-).

Lorrie 
 
On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote:
See  Lorrie  - now everything has been worked out!  So tell your three
kids  if  they don't get off their butts and offer to take your babies
in that  you're  going  to  have  two strange women (well, I'm strange
anyway)  living  in your house taking care of your animals.  And we're
not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!!
 
From: longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
Lorrie,
 
I like the way Maureen thinks!  I can help Maureen take care of all of
your  cats,  I love her idea even though she's kidding.  It would be a
great  place  to retire and between the two of us, we can take care of
all the furry babies!  Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0)
 
L
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-09 Thread MaiMaiPG

Amen
On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Natalie wrote:


We don't have to be older to check out, we could be hit by a bus any
dayyoung or old - therefore all of us should have a serious  
contingency

plan for emergencies!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:47 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

Hey, I love you two!!!   I wish you really could move here when the
time comes.  I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan on  
checkin'
out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because it could  
happen.

.
For the record my three kids are older than you two girls. My son is  
56,
middle daughter 54 and youngest daughter just turned 50. All of them  
adore
cats, but they already have a bunch of their own.  My youngest  
daughter has
11 cats, and the others have a several cats and dogs. I know they  
wouldn't

just dump my cats, because they are great kids, but they would have a
problem taking all 15 of mine.
.
Now just in case you two are really thinking of coming here you can  
look up
www.alpinelakeresort.com It's in the eastern mountains of WV just  
ten miles
from the Maryland border.  Summers here are wonderful with  
temperatures

seldom above 75 - 80, but beware, in the winter we get LOTS of snow.

Anyway,  regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me  
some hope

for the future of my kitty kats.  BTW, Maureen,  my cats like strange
people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-).

Lorrie

On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote:
  See  Lorrie  - now everything has been worked out!  So tell your  
three
  kids  if  they don't get off their butts and offer to take your  
babies
  in that  you're  going  to  have  two strange women (well, I'm  
strange
  anyway)  living  in your house taking care of your animals.  And  
we're

  not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!!

  From: longhornf...@verizon.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
  Lorrie,

  I like the way Maureen thinks!  I can help Maureen take care of  
all of
  your  cats,  I love her idea even though she's kidding.  It would  
be a
  great  place  to retire and between the two of us, we can take  
care of

  all the furry babies!  Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0)

  L



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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-09 Thread dlgegg
As much as I love my family, I would not trust them with my cats.  They or ther 
spouces are not cat lovers and I would never feel easy leaving my babies with 
them.  Like you say, they could take the money and dump the cats.  That is why 
I would rather trust strangers who have already committed themselves to caring 
for unwanted cats.  At least their hearts are in the rght place.


 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 On 09-08, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
 
  For most of us, it is not just finding a trustworthy care giver,
  it's having enough money to provide for them and the cats.  If you
  have property (and other wealth) this could make all the difference
  for your feline family.  I don't know about you, but I always feel
  nobody loves them like I do...which may be true, but to ensure
  they're cared for is a burden relieved. ~Bonnie
 
 I know what you mean about thinking no one can love them like I do,
 and I also worry about someone taking what money they get for each
 cat and then dumping the cat and spending the money.
 
 I am not wealthy, just comfortable from a small inheritance my
 parents left me.   I have to be careful with my money, but I have
 enough saved up for the care of my cats. It's the person who will
 care for them that's my huge concern.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-09 Thread longhornfans


Hi Lorrie, 

Thanks, Lorrie...your place sounds so nice that it's very tempting!! I wish you had a bed and breakfast, I would come often for visits!

Let's see, 15 kittiesdivided by 3 = 5, that's 5 babiesa piece for your kids. Since you are not planning on going anywhere the next 15 yrs, I bet they could get a home. If not, I will check out your website and Maureen and I will gladly love on those furry babies 24/7. But I bet you will be around, you know your babies need you :0)

I love on mine each day in case there is no tomorrow. Life is so precious and we all can take it for granted. 

Hugs to you and don't worry so much =)

Lynda

Sep 9, 2011 04:46:54 PM, felvtalk@felineleukemia.org wrote:
Hey, I love you two!!! I wish you really could move here when thetime comes. I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan oncheckin' out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because itcould happen..For the record my three kids are older than you two girls. My son is56, middle daughter 54 and youngest daughter just turned 50. All ofthem adore cats, but they already have a bunch of their own. Myyoungest daughter has 11 cats, and the others have a several cats anddogs. I know they wouldn't just dump my cats, because they are greatkids, but they would have a problem taking all 15 of mine..Now just in case you two are really thinking of coming here you canlook up www.alpinelakeresort.com It's in the eastern mountains of WVjust ten miles from the Maryland border. Summers here are wonderfulwith temperatures seldom above 75 - 80, but beware, in the winter weget LOTS of snow.Anyway, regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me some hope for the future of my kitty kats. BTW, Maureen, my cats likestrange people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-).Lorrie On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote: See Lorrie - now everything has been worked out! So tell your three kids if they don't get off their butts and offer to take your babies in that you're going to have two strange women (well, I'm strange anyway) living in your house taking care of your animals. And we're not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!!  From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-) Lorrie,  I like the way Maureen thinks! I can help Maureen take care of all of your cats, I love her idea even though she's kidding. It would be a great place to retire and between the two of us, we can take care of all the furry babies! Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0)  L ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-09 Thread MaiMaiPG
I can hear all the justifications...she wouldn't want...they aren't  
happy...we just can't...we are allergic (suddenly)...they are  
shredding the furnitureshe wouldn't want the farm to go to  
wastewe just can't..the hopes/plans are that my friend will be  
able to hire and supervise someone to live in my home and care for  
them.  After the little ones leave this world, the plans are that the  
farm go to a rescue/charity.  Sub-dividing the farm would be a big  
temptation.  Add in logging and...nopenot my family

On Sep 9, 2011, at 5:18 PM, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

As much as I love my family, I would not trust them with my cats.   
They or ther spouces are not cat lovers and I would never feel easy  
leaving my babies with them.  Like you say, they could take the  
money and dump the cats.  That is why I would rather trust strangers  
who have already committed themselves to caring for unwanted cats.   
At least their hearts are in the rght place.



 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

On 09-08, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


For most of us, it is not just finding a trustworthy care giver,
it's having enough money to provide for them and the cats.  If you
have property (and other wealth) this could make all the difference
for your feline family.  I don't know about you, but I always feel
nobody loves them like I do...which may be true, but to ensure
they're cared for is a burden relieved. ~Bonnie


I know what you mean about thinking no one can love them like I do,
and I also worry about someone taking what money they get for each
cat and then dumping the cat and spending the money.

I am not wealthy, just comfortable from a small inheritance my
parents left me.   I have to be careful with my money, but I have
enough saved up for the care of my cats. It's the person who will
care for them that's my huge concern.

Lorrie


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2011-09-09 Thread dlgegg
I could sell my place and move there.  I only have 7 cats and if they dn't get 
alog well with yours, I could build them an outdoor day time house.  At night 
they could sleep in my bedroom like they do now.  I wouldn't mind takin on a 
few more cats.  Or waht about this guy in Oregon who bought 600 acres of an old 
tree farm.  He takes in strays, unwanteds and lets the roam the 600 acres.  He 
builds all kinds of houses for them to sleep in and spends the day checking up 
on them and giving each one some loving.
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2011-09-09 Thread dlgegg
That is what really worries me.  I am in pretty god shape, but accidents do 
happen.  That is why we have to have everything worked out now, including the 
woever gets my cat(s) to let them know about thir prsonality, food, etc.
 MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Amen
 On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Natalie wrote:
 
  We don't have to be older to check out, we could be hit by a bus any
  dayyoung or old - therefore all of us should have a serious  
  contingency
  plan for emergencies!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:47 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
  Hey, I love you two!!!   I wish you really could move here when the
  time comes.  I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan on  
  checkin'
  out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because it could  
  happen.
  .
  For the record my three kids are older than you two girls. My son is  
  56,
  middle daughter 54 and youngest daughter just turned 50. All of them  
  adore
  cats, but they already have a bunch of their own.  My youngest  
  daughter has
  11 cats, and the others have a several cats and dogs. I know they  
  wouldn't
  just dump my cats, because they are great kids, but they would have a
  problem taking all 15 of mine.
  .
  Now just in case you two are really thinking of coming here you can  
  look up
  www.alpinelakeresort.com It's in the eastern mountains of WV just  
  ten miles
  from the Maryland border.  Summers here are wonderful with  
  temperatures
  seldom above 75 - 80, but beware, in the winter we get LOTS of snow.
 
  Anyway,  regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me  
  some hope
  for the future of my kitty kats.  BTW, Maureen,  my cats like strange
  people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-).
 
  Lorrie
 
  On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote:
See  Lorrie  - now everything has been worked out!  So tell your  
  three
kids  if  they don't get off their butts and offer to take your  
  babies
in that  you're  going  to  have  two strange women (well, I'm  
  strange
anyway)  living  in your house taking care of your animals.  And  
  we're
not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!!
 
From: longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
Lorrie,
 
I like the way Maureen thinks!  I can help Maureen take care of  
  all of
your  cats,  I love her idea even though she's kidding.  It would  
  be a
great  place  to retire and between the two of us, we can take  
  care of
all the furry babies!  Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0)
 
L
 
 
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2011-09-09 Thread Natalie
Isn't that in Florida?  All little houses; but how does one keep track of them 
out there, and so many, how can he know who's sick?  Don't they get out?  Is it 
all fenced in?  I had so many questions when I saw the video
Man builds cat-sized village for homeless cats: 
http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/69/man-builds-cat-sized-village-for-homeless-cats.html
 . 
There's also a woman in CA, I think, who has 600 cats - looks like a great 
place.

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Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

I could sell my place and move there.  I only have 7 cats and if they dn't get 
alog well with yours, I could build them an outdoor day time house.  At night 
they could sleep in my bedroom like they do now.  I wouldn't mind takin on a 
few more cats.  Or waht about this guy in Oregon who bought 600 acres of an old 
tree farm.  He takes in strays, unwanteds and lets the roam the 600 acres.  He 
builds all kinds of houses for them to sleep in and spends the day checking up 
on them and giving each one some loving.
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2011-09-09 Thread Natalie
I started a hard file (we have it on the computer, but nobody would know how
to get it): Pictures of individual cats, medical history, descriptions of
personality, likes/dislikes, etc.

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Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:52 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

That is what really worries me.  I am in pretty god shape, but accidents do
happen.  That is why we have to have everything worked out now, including
the woever gets my cat(s) to let them know about thir prsonality, food, etc.
 MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Amen
 On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Natalie wrote:
 
  We don't have to be older to check out, we could be hit by a bus 
  any dayyoung or old - therefore all of us should have a serious 
  contingency plan for emergencies!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
  Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:47 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
  Hey, I love you two!!!   I wish you really could move here when the
  time comes.  I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan on 
  checkin'
  out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because it could 
  happen.
  .
  For the record my three kids are older than you two girls. My son is 
  56, middle daughter 54 and youngest daughter just turned 50. All of 
  them adore cats, but they already have a bunch of their own.  My 
  youngest daughter has
  11 cats, and the others have a several cats and dogs. I know they 
  wouldn't just dump my cats, because they are great kids, but they 
  would have a problem taking all 15 of mine.
  .
  Now just in case you two are really thinking of coming here you can 
  look up www.alpinelakeresort.com It's in the eastern mountains of WV 
  just ten miles from the Maryland border.  Summers here are wonderful 
  with temperatures seldom above 75 - 80, but beware, in the winter we 
  get LOTS of snow.
 
  Anyway,  regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me 
  some hope for the future of my kitty kats.  BTW, Maureen,  my cats 
  like strange people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-).
 
  Lorrie
 
  On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote:
See  Lorrie  - now everything has been worked out!  So tell your 
  three
kids  if  they don't get off their butts and offer to take your 
  babies
in that  you're  going  to  have  two strange women (well, I'm 
  strange
anyway)  living  in your house taking care of your animals.  And 
  we're
not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!!
 
From: longhornf...@verizon.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
Lorrie,
 
I like the way Maureen thinks!  I can help Maureen take care of 
  all of
your  cats,  I love her idea even though she's kidding.  It would 
  be a
great  place  to retire and between the two of us, we can take 
  care of
all the furry babies!  Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0)
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-09 Thread Maureen Olvey

I have so many foster failures that I have more cats than most people so mine 
could never stay together (a lot of them wouldn't care).  So here's my plan - 
my husband would keep several but he couldn't handle keeping all of them by 
himself, and even if he did once he remarried I doubt a new wife would want to 
take care of that many animals, so for the rest my rescue would take a few of 
the younger, adoptable ones, I have a couple of friends that would each take a 
few, then I know this nice lady in CT that operates a rescue that can take the 
rest.  Her name is Natalie.  

Except for one cat, she will go to someone with the e-mail address of 
maima...@gmail.com.  That cat's name is Mai Mai so it's only appropriate she 
goes to someone who has Mai Mai in her address!  

Her and her brother are named Mai  Thai, like the drink except that there's an 
h in the tai word that normally isn't there.  So her name is pronounced Mai 
like the drink but I call her Mai Mai.  Just to clarify, the reason there's an 
h in Thai which isn't there in the correct spelling of the drink (which is 
mai tai) is because my boy Thai is an apple head Siamese (mix but looks almost 
pure) and the new name for the traditional applehead Siamese cat is a Thai Cat. 
 So after reading that for some reason I came up with Mai  Thai for those two. 
 So anyway, I think Mai Mai should go with Mai Mai on her farm.  And if you're 
taking Mai Mai you might as well take Thai.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 19:52:14 -0500
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 That is what really worries me.  I am in pretty god shape, but accidents do 
 happen.  That is why we have to have everything worked out now, including the 
 woever gets my cat(s) to let them know about thir prsonality, food, etc.
  MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote: 
  Amen
  On Sep 9, 2011, at 4:55 PM, Natalie wrote:
  
   We don't have to be older to check out, we could be hit by a bus any
   dayyoung or old - therefore all of us should have a serious  
   contingency
   plan for emergencies!
  
   -Original Message-
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
   Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 5:47 PM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
  
   Hey, I love you two!!!   I wish you really could move here when the
   time comes.  I am in fairly good health for 78, so I don't plan on  
   checkin'
   out anytime soon, but I worry about my cats a lot because it could  
   happen.
   .
   For the record my three kids are older than you two girls. My son is  
   56,
   middle daughter 54 and youngest daughter just turned 50. All of them  
   adore
   cats, but they already have a bunch of their own.  My youngest  
   daughter has
   11 cats, and the others have a several cats and dogs. I know they  
   wouldn't
   just dump my cats, because they are great kids, but they would have a
   problem taking all 15 of mine.
   .
   Now just in case you two are really thinking of coming here you can  
   look up
   www.alpinelakeresort.com It's in the eastern mountains of WV just  
   ten miles
   from the Maryland border.  Summers here are wonderful with  
   temperatures
   seldom above 75 - 80, but beware, in the winter we get LOTS of snow.
  
   Anyway,  regardless of whether we ever meet, thanks for giving me  
   some hope
   for the future of my kitty kats.  BTW, Maureen,  my cats like strange
   people, I'm pretty damn strange myself :-).
  
   Lorrie
  
   On 09-09, Maureen Olvey wrote:
 See  Lorrie  - now everything has been worked out!  So tell your  
   three
 kids  if  they don't get off their butts and offer to take your  
   babies
 in that  you're  going  to  have  two strange women (well, I'm  
   strange
 anyway)  living  in your house taking care of your animals.  And  
   we're
 not going to let them come enjoy the lake either!!!
  
 From: longhornf...@verizon.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 09:47:15 -0500
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 Lorrie,
  
 I like the way Maureen thinks!  I can help Maureen take care of  
   all of
 your  cats,  I love her idea even though she's kidding.  It would  
   be a
 great  place  to retire and between the two of us, we can take  
   care of
 all the furry babies!  Afterall, I will be 47 next month :0)
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-09 Thread Maureen Olvey

Seems like I read the woman in CA does have her property fenced in.  She 
doesn't actually have as much acreage as this other guy.  She has a staff of 
like 25 people.  I never heard that about the other guy so who knows if his 
property is fenced in.  But it seems like he takes in ferals and homeless cats 
who have absolutely nowhere else to go so even if it isn't an ideal home 
situation those cats are a lot better off with him.

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

 Date: Fri, 9 Sep 2011 21:21:51 -0400
 From: at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 Isn't that in Florida?  All little houses; but how does one keep track of 
 them out there, and so many, how can he know who's sick?  Don't they get out? 
  Is it all fenced in?  I had so many questions when I saw the video
 Man builds cat-sized village for homeless cats: 
 http://green.yahoo.com/blog/guest_bloggers/69/man-builds-cat-sized-village-for-homeless-cats.html
  . 
 There's also a woman in CA, I think, who has 600 cats - looks like a great 
 place.
 
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 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Friday, September 09, 2011 8:50 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 I could sell my place and move there.  I only have 7 cats and if they dn't 
 get alog well with yours, I could build them an outdoor day time house.  At 
 night they could sleep in my bedroom like they do now.  I wouldn't mind takin 
 on a few more cats.  Or waht about this guy in Oregon who bought 600 acres of 
 an old tree farm.  He takes in strays, unwanteds and lets the roam the 600 
 acres.  He builds all kinds of houses for them to sleep in and spends the day 
 checking up on them and giving each one some loving.
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-08 Thread Lorrie
On 09-07, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:

 It was the same with my Annie.  When her owner who was in hospice
 learned that they had found her a good home, she passed the next
 day.  She knew her baby was safe so she could go.  If I did not have
 a safe haven for my babies to go to, I guess I wuld just have to
 NOT die.  If I did not know thy would be secure and safe, I would
 not rest in peace.  I think I would be like Annie's owner was.  If
 you cannot find her a good home, put her to sleep.  Any port in a
 storm is not a good port, it has to be safe and secure.


I am going to have to live forever!!   I have 15 cats and my family
(three grown kids) can each take two, but I'm not able to find anyone
to take the rest of my cats.  I've been on google for days searching
out sanctuaries in the east, and so far all are FULL.  I'll keep
trying, but I'm getting so discouraged.  These cats were all rescued
kitties and they've been thru a lot before I found them. I love them
very much and I'm worried sick about what will become of them. I have
money for their care, but no one has offered to take one.  I'm now 78
and my husband is almost 90.  I need to find homes, and I am offering
$1,000 per cat.  Do any of you have any ideas what I can do?

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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-08 Thread Gloria Lane
I'm kindly pondering how to do that. Any web sites that address that I wonder?

Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:00 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:

 I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and whatever may 
 show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be used for their care until 
 they all leave this world.
 On Sep 8, 2011, at 6:40 AM, Lorrie wrote:
 
 On 09-07, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:
 
 It was the same with my Annie.  When her owner who was in hospice
 learned that they had found her a good home, she passed the next
 day.  She knew her baby was safe so she could go.  If I did not have
 a safe haven for my babies to go to, I guess I wuld just have to
 NOT die.  If I did not know thy would be secure and safe, I would
 not rest in peace.  I think I would be like Annie's owner was.  If
 you cannot find her a good home, put her to sleep.  Any port in a
 storm is not a good port, it has to be safe and secure.
 
 
 I am going to have to live forever!!   I have 15 cats and my family
 (three grown kids) can each take two, but I'm not able to find anyone
 to take the rest of my cats.  I've been on google for days searching
 out sanctuaries in the east, and so far all are FULL.  I'll keep
 trying, but I'm getting so discouraged.  These cats were all rescued
 kitties and they've been thru a lot before I found them. I love them
 very much and I'm worried sick about what will become of them. I have
 money for their care, but no one has offered to take one.  I'm now 78
 and my husband is almost 90.  I need to find homes, and I am offering
 $1,000 per cat.  Do any of you have any ideas what I can do?
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-08 Thread MaiMaiPG
Not that I know about.  Frankly, I don't trust my family enough to  
trust my most precious friends to them therefore I have an agreement  
with a friend to manage the trust until I figure out something else.   
There was a conversation on this site a while back.  You might check  
the archieves.

On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Gloria Lane wrote:

I'm kindly pondering how to do that. Any web sites that address that  
I wonder?


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:00 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:

I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and  
whatever may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be  
used for their care until they all leave this world.

On Sep 8, 2011, at 6:40 AM, Lorrie wrote:


On 09-07, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:


It was the same with my Annie.  When her owner who was in hospice
learned that they had found her a good home, she passed the next
day.  She knew her baby was safe so she could go.  If I did not  
have

a safe haven for my babies to go to, I guess I wuld just have to
NOT die.  If I did not know thy would be secure and safe, I would
not rest in peace.  I think I would be like Annie's owner was.  If
you cannot find her a good home, put her to sleep.  Any port in a
storm is not a good port, it has to be safe and secure.



I am going to have to live forever!!   I have 15 cats and my family
(three grown kids) can each take two, but I'm not able to find  
anyone

to take the rest of my cats.  I've been on google for days searching
out sanctuaries in the east, and so far all are FULL.  I'll keep
trying, but I'm getting so discouraged.  These cats were all rescued
kitties and they've been thru a lot before I found them. I love them
very much and I'm worried sick about what will become of them. I  
have
money for their care, but no one has offered to take one.  I'm now  
78
and my husband is almost 90.  I need to find homes, and I am  
offering

$1,000 per cat.  Do any of you have any ideas what I can do?

Lorrie in eastern WV almost to the Maryland border


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2011-09-08 Thread MaiMaiPG
There are some books out but I don't know titlesmaybe google for  
providing for pets after death?

On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:17 AM, Gloria Lane wrote:

I'm kindly pondering how to do that. Any web sites that address that  
I wonder?


Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:00 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:

I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and  
whatever may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be  
used for their care until they all leave this world.

On Sep 8, 2011, at 6:40 AM, Lorrie wrote:


On 09-07, dlg...@windstream.net wrote:


It was the same with my Annie.  When her owner who was in hospice
learned that they had found her a good home, she passed the next
day.  She knew her baby was safe so she could go.  If I did not  
have

a safe haven for my babies to go to, I guess I wuld just have to
NOT die.  If I did not know thy would be secure and safe, I would
not rest in peace.  I think I would be like Annie's owner was.  If
you cannot find her a good home, put her to sleep.  Any port in a
storm is not a good port, it has to be safe and secure.



I am going to have to live forever!!   I have 15 cats and my family
(three grown kids) can each take two, but I'm not able to find  
anyone

to take the rest of my cats.  I've been on google for days searching
out sanctuaries in the east, and so far all are FULL.  I'll keep
trying, but I'm getting so discouraged.  These cats were all rescued
kitties and they've been thru a lot before I found them. I love them
very much and I'm worried sick about what will become of them. I  
have
money for their care, but no one has offered to take one.  I'm now  
78
and my husband is almost 90.  I need to find homes, and I am  
offering

$1,000 per cat.  Do any of you have any ideas what I can do?

Lorrie in eastern WV almost to the Maryland border


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2011-09-08 Thread Lorrie
I have provided for my cats in my will too. There is plenty of money
for their care, but WHO WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM?  With 15 cats this is
the problem.  Not the money.  
 .

  On 09-08, MaiMaiPG wrote:

 I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and whatever  
 may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be used for their  
 care until they all leave this world.

 

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2011-09-08 Thread Lorrie
 On 09-08, Gloria Lane wrote:

 I'm kindly pondering how to do that. Any web sites that address
 that I wonder?

There are many cat sanctuaries listed on the web, but most are full.
Then too, many fail and become like hoarding places because they take
in too many cats to care for properly.  It is truly difficult to find
a good sanctuary, but I'll keep trying. If I knew who would take care
of my 15 cats I'd give them my house which is a lovely home in a
resort area on a lake.  It has been built around the needs of my
cats, and has three outside enclosures they can access from the
inside via cat flaps.  It is also in the woods on several acres 
with no traffic. It is a paradise for my cats, and I just wish
someone could let them continue the happy life they know and love.
I will not go to my grave and be at peace until I know my babies
are taken care of.

Lorrie
 
 On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:00 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and
  whatever may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be
  used for their care until they all leave this world.

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2011-09-08 Thread MaiMaiPG
I have a close friend who is as much an animal lover as I am who will  
handle it.


On Sep 8, 2011, at 5:54 PM, Lorrie wrote:


On 09-08, Gloria Lane wrote:



I'm kindly pondering how to do that. Any web sites that address
that I wonder?


There are many cat sanctuaries listed on the web, but most are full.
Then too, many fail and become like hoarding places because they take
in too many cats to care for properly.  It is truly difficult to find
a good sanctuary, but I'll keep trying. If I knew who would take care
of my 15 cats I'd give them my house which is a lovely home in a
resort area on a lake.  It has been built around the needs of my
cats, and has three outside enclosures they can access from the
inside via cat flaps.  It is also in the woods on several acres
with no traffic. It is a paradise for my cats, and I just wish
someone could let them continue the happy life they know and love.
I will not go to my grave and be at peace until I know my babies
are taken care of.

Lorrie


On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:00 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:


I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and
whatever may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be
used for their care until they all leave this world.


WHO WILL HANDLE YOUR TRUST AND BE SURE YOUR CATS ARE CARED FOR?


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2011-09-08 Thread MaiMaiPG
And yes, something could go wrong but it is the best I can figure out  
right now.  I had a lawyer draw up the documents and believe they are  
in order.  However, I keep looking for a way to improve it.

On Sep 8, 2011, at 5:54 PM, Lorrie wrote:


On 09-08, Gloria Lane wrote:



I'm kindly pondering how to do that. Any web sites that address
that I wonder?


There are many cat sanctuaries listed on the web, but most are full.
Then too, many fail and become like hoarding places because they take
in too many cats to care for properly.  It is truly difficult to find
a good sanctuary, but I'll keep trying. If I knew who would take care
of my 15 cats I'd give them my house which is a lovely home in a
resort area on a lake.  It has been built around the needs of my
cats, and has three outside enclosures they can access from the
inside via cat flaps.  It is also in the woods on several acres
with no traffic. It is a paradise for my cats, and I just wish
someone could let them continue the happy life they know and love.
I will not go to my grave and be at peace until I know my babies
are taken care of.

Lorrie


On Sep 8, 2011, at 8:00 AM, MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com wrote:


I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and
whatever may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be
used for their care until they all leave this world.


WHO WILL HANDLE YOUR TRUST AND BE SURE YOUR CATS ARE CARED FOR?


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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-08 Thread Kelley Saveika
Can't stand Best Friends but this is a site they are involved with that has
some good information:

http://www.2ndchance4pets.org/index.html





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Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.

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Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!

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http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*

Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties

Please help Trooper!

http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper


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can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for the animals, that they
should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-08 Thread Gloria Lane
I have godparents for some cats, a rescue for others. - but still a problem- 
what's the rescue gonna do? You gotta have place, a location. Perhaps use of 
your house for a period of time. 

Gloria

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On Sep 8, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

 I have provided for my cats in my will too. There is plenty of money
 for their care, but WHO WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM?  With 15 cats this is
 the problem.  Not the money.  
 .
 
 On 09-08, MaiMaiPG wrote:
 
 I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and whatever  
 may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be used for their  
 care until they all leave this world.
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-08 Thread Bonnie Hogue
If  money isn't the problem, why not contact the Humane Society or another
non-profit animal organization.  You could leave your property to the
organization with the stipulation that your animals be cared for (and you
could define what that means).  If you are wealthy enough, you may even
provide a salary to a care taker.  When the animals are gone from the world,
then the property conveys to the organization.  Thoughts being (a) they are
organized enough to handle such a thing, (b) they are ethical enough not to
'off the kitties' to get the 'goodies' and (c) as an organization it takes
the worry out of finding someone because they are set up, trained and should
be very willing to do this.  I'd talk with them (whomever you think is
appropriate).
For most of us, it is not just finding a trustworthy care giver, it's having
enough money to provide for them and the cats.   If you have property (and
other wealth) this could make all the difference for your feline family.  I
don't know about you, but I always feel nobody loves them like I
do...which may be true, but to ensure they're cared for is a burden
relieved.
~Bonnie

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

I have provided for my cats in my will too. There is plenty of money for
their care, but WHO WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM?  With 15 cats this is the
problem.  Not the money.  
 .

  On 09-08, MaiMaiPG wrote:

 I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and whatever 
 may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be used for their 
 care until they all leave this world.

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-08 Thread dlgegg
I WOULDNOT GO TO HUMANE SOCIETY, ESPEIALLY IF ANY OF MY CATS ARE FELV OR FIV 
POSITIVE.  THEY WOULD PUT  THEM TO SLEEP WITHOUT EVEN TRYING TO FIND A HOME 
WILLING TO TAKE THEM.
 Bonnie Hogue ho...@sonic.net wrote: 
 If  money isn't the problem, why not contact the Humane Society or another
 non-profit animal organization.  You could leave your property to the
 organization with the stipulation that your animals be cared for (and you
 could define what that means).  If you are wealthy enough, you may even
 provide a salary to a care taker.  When the animals are gone from the world,
 then the property conveys to the organization.  Thoughts being (a) they are
 organized enough to handle such a thing, (b) they are ethical enough not to
 'off the kitties' to get the 'goodies' and (c) as an organization it takes
 the worry out of finding someone because they are set up, trained and should
 be very willing to do this.  I'd talk with them (whomever you think is
 appropriate).
 For most of us, it is not just finding a trustworthy care giver, it's having
 enough money to provide for them and the cats.   If you have property (and
 other wealth) this could make all the difference for your feline family.  I
 don't know about you, but I always feel nobody loves them like I
 do...which may be true, but to ensure they're cared for is a burden
 relieved.
 ~Bonnie
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lorrie
 Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 3:43 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)
 
 I have provided for my cats in my will too. There is plenty of money for
 their care, but WHO WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM?  With 15 cats this is the
 problem.  Not the money.  
  .
 
   On 09-08, MaiMaiPG wrote:
 
  I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and whatever 
  may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be used for their 
  care until they all leave this world.
 
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Living forever :-)

2011-09-08 Thread dlgegg
i HAVE A REVERSE MORTGAGE S CAN'T LEAVE THE HOUSE TO A CAREGIVER, BUT MADE 
PROVISION THAT L MONEY LEFT AFTER MORTGAGE IS PAID GOES FOR CARE OF THE CATS.  
I HAVE A RESCUE PICKED OUT FOR THEM TAT HS PLENTY OF LAND AND SEVERAL HOUSES 
FOR THEIR CATS TO LIVE IN.
 Gloria Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: 
 I have godparents for some cats, a rescue for others. - but still a problem- 
 what's the rescue gonna do? You gotta have place, a location. Perhaps use of 
 your house for a period of time. 
 
 Gloria
 
 Sent from my iPhone
 
 On Sep 8, 2011, at 5:43 PM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:
 
  I have provided for my cats in my will too. There is plenty of money
  for their care, but WHO WILL TAKE CARE OF THEM?  With 15 cats this is
  the problem.  Not the money.  
  .
  
  On 09-08, MaiMaiPG wrote:
  
  I've provided for the care of my critters (dogs and cats and whatever  
  may show up) in my will.  Everything is in trust to be used for their  
  care until they all leave this world.
  
  
  
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