Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-28 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I have to say, while our monthly clinic vet does pediatric spay/ 
neuter, I wouldn't trust every one to do it, and I understand the term  
chop shops. Compared with other local clinics, I think we do batter  
aftercare for cats in recovery than any of the others and that's so  
important.  Can't just put them in a cage or carrier after surgery,  
and leave them.  Fortunately we have a good system, and we all trust  
our vet, who is good with pediatric s/n, and he's also fast - amazing  
to watch him versus some of the other vets.  Knowing the vet and  
trusting are so important.  Otherwise I'd wait a while too.


Gloria



On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:58 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote:

I figure that amazingly enough he's been to vet school and I  
haven't.  The
local low cost spay and neuter places (I call them chop n shops)  
will do
them at 3 months, but their primary concern is that all animals be  
spayed

and neutered no matter what, and they killed one of our kittens with a
botched spay - never again.  Our current vet does them at 6 months  
because

his concern is the health of each individual animal - and I like that.

We have never had anyone get pregnant.

If they are not altered we adopt out on foster to adopt, which means  
we
still own the animal and they are fostering.  It works if you can  
keep up

with it.  We never transfer ownership on an unaltered animal.

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com  
wrote:



Kelley, Our vet says exactly the same thing, so we s/n at 6 months.


On 12-27, Kelley Saveika wrote:
We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and  
from

what

I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I

can't

blame him.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-28 Thread Susan Hoffman
I volunteer at our local feral spay/neuter clinic (they also s/n cats and 
kittens being fostered for adoption) and I've watched the procedures so many 
times.  My station is right next to where the neuters are done.  The aftercare 
is amazing.  We have so many volunteers just checking respiration all the way 
through the clinic.  The cats at this particular clinic receive more 
post-surgical monitoring and attention than most private vets can provide.  

--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:

 From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 9:53 PM
 I have to say, while our monthly
 clinic vet does pediatric spay/neuter, I wouldn't trust
 every one to do it, and I understand the term chop shops.
 Compared with other local clinics, I think we do batter
 aftercare for cats in recovery than any of the others and
 that's so important.  Can't just put them in a cage or
 carrier after surgery, and leave them.  Fortunately we
 have a good system, and we all trust our vet, who is good
 with pediatric s/n, and he's also fast - amazing to watch
 him versus some of the other vets.  Knowing the vet and
 trusting are so important.  Otherwise I'd wait a while
 too.
 
 Gloria
 
 
 
 On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:58 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote:
 
  I figure that amazingly enough he's been to vet school
 and I haven't.  The
  local low cost spay and neuter places (I call them
 chop n shops) will do
  them at 3 months, but their primary concern is that
 all animals be spayed
  and neutered no matter what, and they killed one of
 our kittens with a
  botched spay - never again.  Our current vet does
 them at 6 months because
  his concern is the health of each individual animal -
 and I like that.
  
  We have never had anyone get pregnant.
  
  If they are not altered we adopt out on foster to
 adopt, which means we
  still own the animal and they are fostering.  It
 works if you can keep up
  with it.  We never transfer ownership on an
 unaltered animal.
  
  On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com
 wrote:
  
  Kelley, Our vet says exactly the same thing, so we
 s/n at 6 months.
  
  
  On 12-27, Kelley Saveika wrote:
  We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do
 them before that, and from
  what
  I've read about the bad possible side effects
 of early s/n in dogs I
  can't
  blame him.
  
  
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  And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true
 animal lovers they
  can’t complain about it, that they can’t fight for
 the animals, that they
  should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-28 Thread terrie
This is the same way it is done at the clinic I use for all my spays/neuters.
I volunteerwhen I can as I dowork closely with them.
All are treated equally if any problems arise it is taken care of ASAP by the staff. Everyone is monitored the whole time there. Thereis plenty on staff to make sure the kitties are doing okay at all times. Like what Susan stated they are continuously checking their respiration making sure they are cared for.
I agree they do more for them then the private Vets. 
I know as I was a Vet Tech for many years and my adult daughter is one as wellshe states the same thing the clinic does wonderful things cats are given more care then those in private practice.
The kitties are also given some wet food when put back in their carriers, crates, or traps.
I commend them all for their jobs well done.

I have been to the "Chop Shops" this is not one. 

I'm very pleased in what they do.
They have a mission that is to save any unwanted kittens born in this world. 
By doing so they alter all cats and kittens for free or low cost.
If your a rescue this pertains to you as well.
If you do not have the funds they will do it for free. Providing you can show proof your getting some type of revenue from the state/federal. 
In my case I pay for all my spays/neuters at a low cost.
All Feral kitties are done free in which I have done as well.
Kitties are given FVRCP vaccines along with the Rabies during this time.
Their fees are very reasonable. Have specials during different times of the year.
Many rescues from all over WA. take their kitties to them for spays/neuters. 
They are open 7 days a week.
Even after the kitty leaves if any problems arise they request you contact them immediately so the proper care can be given.

Of course I have regular and specialized Vets that I'm grateful to have for other illnesses and diseases for the rescues and my own personal cats. They too have made comments stating that the clinic does wonderful things for the cats and kittens.
Would like to add they have received many awards locally and nationally for what they do.

I have included their web site for you all to view.
http://www.feralcatproject.org/default.aspx

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 Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesFrom: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.comDate: Tue, December 28, 2010 10:22 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgI volunteer at our local feral spay/neuter clinic (they also s/n cats and kittens being fostered for adoption) and I've watched the procedures so many times. My station is right next to where the neuters are done. The aftercare is amazing. We have so many volunteers just checking respiration all the way through the clinic. The cats at this particular clinic receive more post-surgical monitoring and attention than most private vets can provide. --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net wrote: From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 9:53 PM I have to say, while our monthly clinic vet does pediatric spay/neuter, I wouldn't trust every one to do it, and I understand the term "chop shops". Compared with other local clinics, I think we do batter "aftercare" for cats in recovery than any of the others and that's so important. Can't just put them in a cage or carrier after surgery, and leave them. Fortunately we have a good system, and we all trust our vet, who is good with pediatric s/n, and he's also fast - amazing to watch him versus some of the other vets. Knowing the vet and trusting are so important. Otherwise I'd wait a while too.  GloriaOn Dec 27, 2010, at 7:58 PM, Kelley Saveika wrote:   I figure that amazingly enough he's been to vet school and I haven't. The  local low cost spay and neuter places (I call them chop n shops) will do  them at 3 months, but their primary concern is that all animals be spayed  and neutered no matter what, and they killed one of our kittens with a  botched spay - never again. Our current vet does them at 6 months because  his concern is the health of each individual animal - and I like that.We have never had anyone get pregnant.If they are not altered we adopt out on foster to adopt, which means we  still own the animal and they are fostering. It works if you can keep up  with it. We never transfer ownership on an unaltered animal.On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote:Kelley, Our vet says exactly the same thing, so we s/n at 6 months.  On 12-27, Kelley Saveika wrote:  We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and from  what  I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Katy Doyle
Many of the vets I use with rescues want the kitten to weigh 2 pounds, age
doesn't matter.

--Katy

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck 
jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
 neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him at
 a gas station).
 We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
 neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
 He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.

 Thanks for any replies,

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Gloria Lane
We neuter young I think it's 3 pounds. Not all vets do that though. 

Gloria

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On Dec 27, 2010, at 10:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com 
wrote:

 Hi,
 
 Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
 neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him at
 a gas station).
 We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
 neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
 He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.
 
 Thanks for any replies,
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread terrie
I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral or not. 
Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time.
In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be done!
So this would be a good time to do it.

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 Original Message Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesFrom: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.comDate: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgHi,Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittensneutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him ata gas station).We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have himneutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.Thanks for any replies,Peggy___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Edna Taylor

My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before surgery (usually 16 weeks)
 
 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
 From: athenapities...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 
 Many of the vets I use with rescues want the kitten to weigh 2 pounds, age
 doesn't matter.
 
 --Katy
 
 On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck 
 jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi,
 
  Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
  neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him at
  a gas station).
  We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
  neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
  He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.
 
  Thanks for any replies,
 
  Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread terrie
Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest weight of 2 pounds. When I do take my kittens in they range from 2-3 pounds. 
They are given some of the vaccines and tattooed while under. 
All are tested for the viral diseases.

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 Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesFrom: ter...@tazzys.orgDate: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:40 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral or not. 
Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time.
In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be done!
So this would be a good time to do it.

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 Original Message Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesFrom: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.comDate: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgHi,Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittensneutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him ata gas station).We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have himneutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.Thanks for any replies,Peggy___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Peggy Verdonck
I have to weigh him, but I'm sure he is at least over 2 pounds. I will also
call the vet and ask how much he has to weigh. Can you have a young kitten
like that vaccinated against Felv?

2010/12/27 ter...@tazzys.org

  Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest weight
 of 2 pounds. When I do take my kittens in they range from 2-3 pounds.
 They are given some of the vaccines and tattooed while under.
 All are tested for the viral diseases.

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   Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 From: ter...@tazzys.org
 Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:40 am
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org


 I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral or
 not.
 Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time.
 In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be
 done!
 So this would be a good time to do it.

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   Original Message 
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 From: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 am
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 Hi,

 Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
 neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him at
 a gas station).
 We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
 neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
 He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.

 Thanks for any replies,

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Peggy Verdonck
I guess he is good.he weighs over 4 pounds!!

2010/12/27 Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com

 I have to weigh him, but I'm sure he is at least over 2 pounds. I will also
 call the vet and ask how much he has to weigh. Can you have a young kitten
 like that vaccinated against Felv?

 2010/12/27 ter...@tazzys.org

  Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest weight
 of 2 pounds. When I do take my kittens in they range from 2-3 pounds.
 They are given some of the vaccines and tattooed while under.
 All are tested for the viral diseases.

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 Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:40 am
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org


 I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral or
 not.
 Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time.
 In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be
 done!
 So this would be a good time to do it.

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   Original Message 
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 From: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 am
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 Hi,

 Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
 neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him
 at
 a gas station).
 We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
 neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
 He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.

 Thanks for any replies,

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread terrie
Yes, they can be given the FELV vaccines.

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 Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesFrom: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.comDate: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:54 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgI have to weigh him, but I'm sure he is at least over 2 pounds. I will alsocall the vet and ask how much he has to weigh. Can you have a young kittenlike that vaccinated against Felv?2010/12/27 ter...@tazzys.org Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest weight of 2 pounds. When I do take my kittens in they range from 2-3 pounds. They are given some of the vaccines and tattooed while under. All are tested for the viral diseases. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.  Original Message  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males From: ter...@tazzys.org Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:40 am To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral or not. Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time. In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be done! So this would be a good time to do it. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.  Original Message  Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering males From: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 am To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi, Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him at a gas station). We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money. He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already. Thanks for any replies, Peggy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread terrie
LOL...guess he is good to go for his neutering!
Big boy!

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 Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesFrom: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.comDate: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:57 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgI guess he is good.he weighs over 4 pounds!!2010/12/27 Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com I have to weigh him, but I'm sure he is at least over 2 pounds. I will also call the vet and ask how much he has to weigh. Can you have a young kitten like that vaccinated against Felv? 2010/12/27 ter...@tazzys.org Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest weight of 2 pounds. When I do take my kittens in they range from 2-3 pounds. They are given some of the vaccines and tattooed while under. All are tested for the viral diseases. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.  Original Message  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males From: ter...@tazzys.org Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:40 am To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral or not. Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time. In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be done! So this would be a good time to do it. TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.  Original Message  Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering males From: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 am To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Hi, Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him at a gas station). We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money. He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already. Thanks for any replies, Peggy ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org -- ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Peggy Verdonck
Yes, he is a big boy! We found him at a gas station about 3 weeks ago. He
was a little skinny but not bad. The people from the gas station put food
out for him.
We had to trap him because he was completely wild and feral. And
now...the sweetest kittens you can imagine!!
He is still separated from the other cats because I don't want to take the
risk. We had a good scare earlier this year. Our other cats still have to go
for their second round of testing.
Fingers crossed!

2010/12/27 ter...@tazzys.org

  LOL...guess he is good to go for his neutering!
 Big boy!

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   Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 From: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
 Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:57 am
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 I guess he is good.he weighs over 4 pounds!!

  2010/12/27 Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com

  I have to weigh him, but I'm sure he is at least over 2 pounds. I will
 also
  call the vet and ask how much he has to weigh. Can you have a young
 kitten
  like that vaccinated against Felv?
 
  2010/12/27 ter...@tazzys.org
 
  Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest weight
  of 2 pounds. When I do take my kittens in they range from 2-3 pounds.
  They are given some of the vaccines and tattooed while under.
  All are tested for the viral diseases.
 
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   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
  From: ter...@tazzys.org
  Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:40 am
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
 
  I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral or
  not.
  Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time.
  In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be
  done!
  So this would be a good time to do it.
 
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   Original Message 
  Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
  From: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
  Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 am
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
  Hi,
 
  Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
  neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him
  at
  a gas station).
  We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
  neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
  He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing
 already.
 
  Thanks for any replies,
 
  Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread terrie
All fingers and paws crossed here for the boy!
Good luck!

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 Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesFrom: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.comDate: Mon, December 27, 2010 9:22 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgYes, he is a big boy! We found him at a gas station about 3 weeks ago. Hewas a little skinny but not bad. The people from the gas station put foodout for him.We had to trap him because he was completely wild and feral. Andnow...the sweetest kittens you can imagine!!He is still separated from the other cats because I don't want to take therisk. We had a good scare earlier this year. Our other cats still have to gofor their second round of testing.Fingers crossed!2010/12/27 ter...@tazzys.org LOL...guess he is good to go for his neutering! Big boy! TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE Sultan, WA. 98294 Terrie Mohr-Forker http://tazzys.org/ Non-Profit national rescue Dedicated to the welfare of animals. Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.  Original Message  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males From: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:57 am To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org I guess he is good.he weighs over 4 pounds!! 2010/12/27 Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com  I have to weigh him, but I'm sure he is at least over 2 pounds. I will also  call the vet and ask how much he has to weigh. Can you have a young kitten  like that vaccinated against Felv?   2010/12/27 ter...@tazzys.org   Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest weight  of 2 pounds. When I do take my kittens in they range from 2-3 pounds.  They are given some of the vaccines and tattooed while under.  All are tested for the viral diseases.   TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE  Sultan, WA. 98294  Terrie Mohr-Forker  http://tazzys.org/  Non-Profit national rescue  Dedicated to the welfare of animals.   Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.  Original Message   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males  From: ter...@tazzys.org  Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:40 am  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgI have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral or  not.  Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time.  In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be  done!  So this would be a good time to do it.   TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE  Sultan, WA. 98294  Terrie Mohr-Forker  http://tazzys.org/  Non-Profit national rescue  Dedicated to the welfare of animals.   Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.  Original Message   Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering males  From: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com  Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 am  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   Hi,   Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens  neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him  at  a gas station).  We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him  neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.  He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.   Thanks for any replies,   Peggy  ___  Felvtalk mailing list  Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org--  ___  Felvtalk mailing list  Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___  Felvtalk mailing list  Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Peggy Verdonck
Thank you! :-)

2010/12/27 ter...@tazzys.org

  All fingers and paws crossed here for the boy!
 Good luck!

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   Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 From: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
  Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 9:22 am
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 Yes, he is a big boy! We found him at a gas station about 3 weeks ago. He
 was a little skinny but not bad. The people from the gas station put food
 out for him.
 We had to trap him because he was completely wild and feral. And
 now...the sweetest kittens you can imagine!!
 He is still separated from the other cats because I don't want to take the
 risk. We had a good scare earlier this year. Our other cats still have to
 go
 for their second round of testing.
 Fingers crossed!

 2010/12/27 ter...@tazzys.org

  LOL...guess he is good to go for his neutering!
  Big boy!
 
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   Original Message 
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
  From: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
  Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:57 am
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
  I guess he is good.he weighs over 4 pounds!!
 
  2010/12/27 Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
 
   I have to weigh him, but I'm sure he is at least over 2 pounds. I will
  also
   call the vet and ask how much he has to weigh. Can you have a young
  kitten
   like that vaccinated against Felv?
  
   2010/12/27 ter...@tazzys.org
  
   Would like to add my Vets do the spaying/neutering at the lightest
 weight
   of 2 pounds. When I do take my kittens in they range from 2-3 pounds.
   They are given some of the vaccines and tattooed while under.
   All are tested for the viral diseases.
  
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    Original Message 
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
   From: ter...@tazzys.org
   Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:40 am
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  
  
   I have all my kittens spayed/neutered when they are 2-3 pounds feral
 or
   not.
   Normally they are about 10-12 weeks old at this time.
   In male kittens if the testicles are showing this is great they can be
   done!
   So this would be a good time to do it.
  
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    Original Message 
   Subject: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
   From: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
   Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 8:29 am
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  
   Hi,
  
   Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
   neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found
 him
   at
   a gas station).
   We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
   neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
   He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing
  already.
  
   Thanks for any replies,
  
   Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Kelley Saveika
We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and from what
I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I can't
blame him.

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:


 My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before surgery (usually 16
 weeks)

  Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
  From: athenapities...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 
  Many of the vets I use with rescues want the kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
 age
  doesn't matter.
 
  --Katy
 
  On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck 
  jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
   neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found
 him at
   a gas station).
   We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
   neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
   He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing
 already.
  
   Thanks for any replies,
  
   Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Susan Hoffman
We do them at 2 pounds/2 months in northern California.  With the girls we may 
wait till they are closer to 3 pounds though.

Cats can start going into heat at 4-1/2 months.  And with the boys, the sooner 
they are neutered the less likely they are to become sprayers.  If you are 
planning on adopting the little guy out I would suggest fixing him as soon as 
possible.  If he turns into a sprayer he will really not be adoptable to an 
indoor only home.

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 From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 9:52 AM
 We do ours at 6 months; our vet will
 not do them before that, and from what
 I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n
 in dogs I can't
 blame him.
 
 On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
 wrote:
 
 
  My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before
 surgery (usually 16
  weeks)
 
   Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
   From: athenapities...@gmail.com
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
  
   Many of the vets I use with rescues want the
 kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
  age
   doesn't matter.
  
   --Katy
  
   On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck
 
   jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
Hi,
   
Just a quick question. At what age do you
 guys have your male kittens
neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten
 (not sure exactly, found
  him at
a gas station).
We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and
 I was thinking to have him
neutered at the same time because it would
 save us a lot of money.
He is a strong and healthy guy and both his
 testicals are showing
  already.
   
Thanks for any replies,
   
Peggy
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Natalie
Just make sure that the vet knows how to deal with neutering such a small
kitten - not all do!

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Katy Doyle
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 11:34 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

Many of the vets I use with rescues want the kitten to weigh 2 pounds, age
doesn't matter.

--Katy

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck 
jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi,

 Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
 neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found him
at
 a gas station).
 We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
 neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
 He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing already.

 Thanks for any replies,

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Natalie
I personally do NOT neuter/spay until much later and have never had a
sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and believes that
neutering males so early has some possible future risks that are not yet
known.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and from what
I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I can't
blame him.

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:


 My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before surgery (usually 16
 weeks)

  Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
  From: athenapities...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 
  Many of the vets I use with rescues want the kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
 age
  doesn't matter.
 
  --Katy
 
  On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck 
  jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
   neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found
 him at
   a gas station).
   We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
   neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
   He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing
 already.
  
   Thanks for any replies,
  
   Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Kim
I usually wait until they are 6 months old also.  However, I currently have
a litter of 1 female and 2 males and I was wanting to get it done before
they became sexually mature.  I have them scheduled for the middle of
January and they will be only 4 1/2 months old.  What are the future health
problems for early spays and neuters.  I haven't heard about this before.
Perhaps I need to reschedule for a later date?

...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will
change for that one pet...
 
The top ten reasons to spay and neuter your dog or cat were killed in a
shelter today.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

I personally do NOT neuter/spay until much later and have never had a
sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and believes that
neutering males so early has some possible future risks that are not yet
known.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and from what
I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I can't
blame him.

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:


 My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before surgery (usually 16
 weeks)

  Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
  From: athenapities...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 
  Many of the vets I use with rescues want the kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
 age
  doesn't matter.
 
  --Katy
 
  On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck 
  jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
   neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found
 him at
   a gas station).
   We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
   neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
   He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing
 already.
  
   Thanks for any replies,
  
   Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Gloria Lane
Right our vet does 2 lb 2 mo for boys also and later for girls.  We never have 
problems with the early neuter but like someone said *not all vets do it* - not 
all are experienced at doing it. So probably good to get one who's done it 
before and you trust.

Gloria

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On Dec 27, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com wrote:

 We do them at 2 pounds/2 months in northern California.  With the girls we 
 may wait till they are closer to 3 pounds though.
 
 Cats can start going into heat at 4-1/2 months.  And with the boys, the 
 sooner they are neutered the less likely they are to become sprayers.  If you 
 are planning on adopting the little guy out I would suggest fixing him as 
 soon as possible.  If he turns into a sprayer he will really not be adoptable 
 to an indoor only home.
 
 --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.com
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 9:52 AM
 We do ours at 6 months; our vet will
 not do them before that, and from what
 I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n
 in dogs I can't
 blame him.
 
 On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
 wrote:
 
 
 My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before
 surgery (usually 16
 weeks)
 
 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
 From: athenapities...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 
 Many of the vets I use with rescues want the
 kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
 age
 doesn't matter.
 
 --Katy
 
 On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck
 
 jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
 wrote:
 
 Hi,
 
 Just a quick question. At what age do you
 guys have your male kittens
 neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten
 (not sure exactly, found
 him at
 a gas station).
 We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and
 I was thinking to have him
 neutered at the same time because it would
 save us a lot of money.
 He is a strong and healthy guy and both his
 testicals are showing
 already.
 
 Thanks for any replies,
 
 Peggy
 
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 http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Natalie
I've only heard that especially for males, if they're too young and not
sexually mature, there could be urinary problems in the futurefor
females, it seems OK to do it early.  Right now, I have one female and 2
males of about 6-7 months of age. they're not large - absolutely no sign of
anything sexual going on.  But I will spay the female first.  They are
waiting to find homes.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kim
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 2:02 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

I usually wait until they are 6 months old also.  However, I currently have
a litter of 1 female and 2 males and I was wanting to get it done before
they became sexually mature.  I have them scheduled for the middle of
January and they will be only 4 1/2 months old.  What are the future health
problems for early spays and neuters.  I haven't heard about this before.
Perhaps I need to reschedule for a later date?

...Saving just one pet won't change the worldbut surely the world will
change for that one pet...
 
The top ten reasons to spay and neuter your dog or cat were killed in a
shelter today.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Natalie
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 1:50 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

I personally do NOT neuter/spay until much later and have never had a
sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and believes that
neutering males so early has some possible future risks that are not yet
known.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and from what
I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I can't
blame him.

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:


 My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before surgery (usually 16
 weeks)

  Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
  From: athenapities...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 
  Many of the vets I use with rescues want the kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
 age
  doesn't matter.
 
  --Katy
 
  On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck 
  jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote:
 
   Hi,
  
   Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittens
   neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found
 him at
   a gas station).
   We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have him
   neutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.
   He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing
 already.
  
   Thanks for any replies,
  
   Peggy
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Susan Hoffman
It's different if you are a rescue who places animals for adoption.  In 
California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to adopt out an unaltered 
animal.  Also, we have so many vets in Northern California who are very 
experienced at early age spay/neuter.  It's the standard here and the kittens 
always seem to bounce back so quickly from their surgery.

--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM
 I personally do NOT neuter/spay until
 much later and have never had a
 sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and
 believes that
 neutering males so early has some possible future risks
 that are not yet
 known.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
 Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 
 We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before
 that, and from what
 I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n
 in dogs I can't
 blame him.
 
 On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
 wrote:
 
 
  My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before
 surgery (usually 16
  weeks)
 
   Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
   From: athenapities...@gmail.com
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
  
   Many of the vets I use with rescues want the
 kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
  age
   doesn't matter.
  
   --Katy
  
   On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck
 
   jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
Hi,
   
Just a quick question. At what age do you
 guys have your male kittens
neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten
 (not sure exactly, found
  him at
a gas station).
We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and
 I was thinking to have him
neutered at the same time because it would
 save us a lot of money.
He is a strong and healthy guy and both his
 testicals are showing
  already.
   
Thanks for any replies,
   
Peggy
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Natalie
I am a rescue group - but we don't have any laws in CT to alter them before
adoptions.  Probably a great idea! I keep in personal contact with adopters
and make absolutely sure that they spay/neuter at the appropriate times.
But they found that even though people pay for the spay/neuter at the time
of adoption, a huge percentage never come back to do it...Whether they do it
on their own or not, isn't known.  More likely, they don't, and that's why
such a problem continues.

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:45 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

It's different if you are a rescue who places animals for adoption.  In
California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to adopt out an
unaltered animal.  Also, we have so many vets in Northern California who are
very experienced at early age spay/neuter.  It's the standard here and the
kittens always seem to bounce back so quickly from their surgery.

--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM
 I personally do NOT neuter/spay until
 much later and have never had a
 sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and
 believes that
 neutering males so early has some possible future risks
 that are not yet
 known.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
 Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 
 We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before
 that, and from what
 I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n
 in dogs I can't
 blame him.
 
 On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
 wrote:
 
 
  My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before
 surgery (usually 16
  weeks)
 
   Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
   From: athenapities...@gmail.com
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
  
   Many of the vets I use with rescues want the
 kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
  age
   doesn't matter.
  
   --Katy
  
   On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck
 
   jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
Hi,
   
Just a quick question. At what age do you
 guys have your male kittens
neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten
 (not sure exactly, found
  him at
a gas station).
We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and
 I was thinking to have him
neutered at the same time because it would
 save us a lot of money.
He is a strong and healthy guy and both his
 testicals are showing
  already.
   
Thanks for any replies,
   
Peggy
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Susan Hoffman
Unfortunately that has been the experience of too many people.  Even with a 
contract and a spay/neuter deposit it does not happen.  Or it doesn't happen 
until after that little surprise litter from a 7 month old cat.  Early age 
spay/neuter goes a long way towards reducing pet overpopulation.  The areas 
that do very young spay/neuter amd have active feral cat programs have fewer 
kittens in shelters and higher adult cat adoptions.  So if you're going to 
adopt them out, fix them first.

--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 1:14 PM
 I am a rescue group - but we don't
 have any laws in CT to alter them before
 adoptions.  Probably a great idea! I keep in personal
 contact with adopters
 and make absolutely sure that they spay/neuter at the
 appropriate times.
 But they found that even though people pay for the
 spay/neuter at the time
 of adoption, a huge percentage never come back to do
 it...Whether they do it
 on their own or not, isn't known.  More likely, they
 don't, and that's why
 such a problem continues.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
 Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:45 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 
 It's different if you are a rescue who places animals for
 adoption.  In
 California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to
 adopt out an
 unaltered animal.  Also, we have so many vets in
 Northern California who are
 very experienced at early age spay/neuter.  It's the
 standard here and the
 kittens always seem to bounce back so quickly from their
 surgery.
 
 --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net
 wrote:
 
  From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM
  I personally do NOT neuter/spay until
  much later and have never had a
  sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early,
 and
  believes that
  neutering males so early has some possible future
 risks
  that are not yet
  known.
  
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
  On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
  Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
  
  We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them
 before
  that, and from what
  I've read about the bad possible side effects of early
 s/n
  in dogs I can't
  blame him.
  
  On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
  wrote:
  
  
   My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds
 before
  surgery (usually 16
   weeks)
  
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
From: athenapities...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
   
Many of the vets I use with rescues want
 the
  kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
   age
doesn't matter.
   
--Katy
   
On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy
 Verdonck
  
jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
  wrote:
   
 Hi,

 Just a quick question. At what age do
 you
  guys have your male kittens
 neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old
 kitten
  (not sure exactly, found
   him at
 a gas station).
 We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv
 and
  I was thinking to have him
 neutered at the same time because it
 would
  save us a lot of money.
 He is a strong and healthy guy and both
 his
  testicals are showing
   already.

 Thanks for any replies,

 Peggy

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  Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!
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  And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true
 animal
  lovers they
  can't complain about it, that they can't fight for
 the
  animals, that they
  should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to
  continue

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Peggy Verdonck
Wow, I went outside for a little bit to ride one of our horses.bunches
of new replies :-)

All our other cats were around 9 months old when spayed or neutered. I'm
from the Netherlands and there are not many vets that will do it earlier
then that. I've been reading and listening to the pros and cons to
early/late neutering and spaying, but there are just as many pros as cons in
either of them. I even lean towards early, because a kitten bounces back a
lot quicker then an older cat.
I've personally made up my mind that it is better to neuter young, but not
at like 3 weeks old or so. I don't think much can go wrong with a male. If a
vet messes that up, he needs to go back to school. With females I would wait
till older. It is a lot harder on them because they actually get opened up
and have all their female organs removed..
With my first question I was just wondering at what age most people have
their male kittens neutered. Didn't even think about the weight of the
kitten...makes a lot more sense!

Thanks for the all the replies!

2010/12/27 Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com

 Unfortunately that has been the experience of too many people.  Even with a
 contract and a spay/neuter deposit it does not happen.  Or it doesn't happen
 until after that little surprise litter from a 7 month old cat.  Early age
 spay/neuter goes a long way towards reducing pet overpopulation.  The areas
 that do very young spay/neuter amd have active feral cat programs have fewer
 kittens in shelters and higher adult cat adoptions.  So if you're going to
 adopt them out, fix them first.

 --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

  From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 1:14 PM
   I am a rescue group - but we don't
  have any laws in CT to alter them before
  adoptions.  Probably a great idea! I keep in personal
  contact with adopters
  and make absolutely sure that they spay/neuter at the
  appropriate times.
  But they found that even though people pay for the
  spay/neuter at the time
  of adoption, a huge percentage never come back to do
  it...Whether they do it
  on their own or not, isn't known.  More likely, they
  don't, and that's why
  such a problem continues.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
  On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
  Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:45 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 
  It's different if you are a rescue who places animals for
  adoption.  In
  California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to
  adopt out an
  unaltered animal.  Also, we have so many vets in
  Northern California who are
  very experienced at early age spay/neuter.  It's the
  standard here and the
  kittens always seem to bounce back so quickly from their
  surgery.
 
  --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net
  wrote:
 
   From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM
   I personally do NOT neuter/spay until
   much later and have never had a
   sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early,
  and
   believes that
   neutering males so early has some possible future
  risks
   that are not yet
   known.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
   On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
   Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
  
   We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them
  before
   that, and from what
   I've read about the bad possible side effects of early
  s/n
   in dogs I can't
   blame him.
  
   On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
   wrote:
  
   
My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds
  before
   surgery (usually 16
weeks)
   
 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
 From: athenapities...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

 Many of the vets I use with rescues want
  the
   kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
age
 doesn't matter.

 --Katy

 On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy
  Verdonck
   
 jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
   wrote:

  Hi,
 
  Just a quick question. At what age do
  you
   guys have your male kittens
  neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old
  kitten
   (not sure exactly, found
him at
  a gas station).
  We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv
  and
   I was thinking to have him
  neutered at the same time because it
  would
   save us a lot of money.
  He is a strong and healthy guy and both
  his
   testicals are showing
already.
 
  Thanks for any replies

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Lorrie
Kelley, Our vet says exactly the same thing, so we s/n at 6 months.


On 12-27, Kelley Saveika wrote:
 We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and from what
 I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I can't
 blame him.
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread terrie
I totally agree it is the law here as well.
Being a rescue and non-profit we do all kittens after they reach the desired weight before they are adopted out. Matter of fact I do not list any kittens until they have been done. I have 3 litters going next week with their moms to be altered.
Yes, they do bounced back after have this done. It is harder the older the kitty.
My Vets tooare very experience doing these spay/neuters at young ages.
I have seen females come into heat at 41/1-5 months old then be pregnant at 6 months popping out kittens. 
I've taken in several young moms in the last year more so than in the past years because of being too young to have kittens. People play off being stupid like they didn't know they could get pregnant at that age.
Male kittens and adultsdo try to go after them. 
It's nature!

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 Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesFrom: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.comDate: Mon, December 27, 2010 12:44 pmTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgIt's different if you are a rescue who places animals for adoption. In California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to adopt out an unaltered animal. Also, we have so many vets in Northern California who are very experienced at early age spay/neuter. It's the standard here and the kittens always seem to bounce back so quickly from their surgery.--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM I personally do NOT neuter/spay until much later and have never had a sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and believes that neutering males so early has some possible future risks that are not yet known.  -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males  We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and from what I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I can't blame him.  On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com wrote:My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before surgery (usually 16  weeks)Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500   From: athenapities...@gmail.com   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males Many of the vets I use with rescues want the kitten to weigh 2 pounds,  age   doesn't matter. --Katy On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonckjetalitosunnys...@gmail.com wrote:  Hi,   Just a quick question. At what age do you guys have your male kittensneutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten (not sure exactly, found  him ata gas station).We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and I was thinking to have himneutered at the same time because it would save us a lot of money.He is a strong and healthy guy and both his testicals are showing  already.   Thanks for any replies,   Peggy___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org  ___   Felvtalk mailing list   Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org   ___  Felvtalk mailing list  Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org --  Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.  http://www.rescuties.org  Vist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!  http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20  http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*  Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties! http://www.magfundraising.com/rescuties  Please help Trooper!  http://rescuties.chipin.com/trooper   "And it is the most divisive incivility to tell true animal lovers they can't complain about it, that they can't fight for the animals, that they should sit down and shut up and allow the killing to continue."  - Nathan Winograd ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felinele

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread terrie
DITTO here!

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 Original Message Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesFrom: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.comDate: Mon, December 27, 2010 1:22 pmTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgUnfortunately that has been the experience of too many people. Even with a contract and a spay/neuter deposit it does not happen. Or it doesn't happen until after that little surprise litter from a 7 month old cat. Early age spay/neuter goes a long way towards reducing pet overpopulation. The areas that do very young spay/neuter amd have active feral cat programs have fewer kittens in shelters and higher adult cat adoptions. So if you're going to adopt them out, fix them first.--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: From: Natalie at...@optonline.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 1:14 PM I am a rescue group - but we don't have any laws in CT to alter them before adoptions. Probably a great idea! I keep in personal contact with adopters and make absolutely sure that they spay/neuter at the appropriate times. But they found that even though people pay for the spay/neuter at the time of adoption, a huge percentage never come back to do it...Whether they do it on their own or not, isn't known. More likely, they don't, and that's why such a problem continues.  -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:45 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males  It's different if you are a rescue who places animals for adoption. In California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to adopt out an unaltered animal. Also, we have so many vets in Northern California who are very experienced at early age spay/neuter. It's the standard here and the kittens always seem to bounce back so quickly from their surgery.  --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:   From: Natalie at...@optonline.net  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM  I personally do NOT neuter/spay until  much later and have never had a  sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and  believes that  neutering males so early has some possible future risks  that are not yet  known.-Original Message-  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]  On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika  Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering malesWe do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before  that, and from what  I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n  in dogs I can't  blame him.On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com  wrote:   My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before  surgery (usually 16   weeks)  Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500From: athenapities...@gmail.comTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgSubject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males   Many of the vets I use with rescues want the  kitten to weigh 2 pounds,   agedoesn't matter.   --Katy   On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck  jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com  wrote:Hi, Just a quick question. At what age do you  guys have your male kittens neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten  (not sure exactly, found   him at a gas station). We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and  I was thinking to have him neutered at the same time because it would  save us a lot of money. He is a strong and healthy guy and both his  testicals are showing   already. Thanks for any replies, Peggy  ___ Felvtalk mailing list Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org ___   Felvtalk mailing list   Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org   http://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org  --   Rescuties - Saving the world, one cat at a time.http://www.rescuties.orgVist the Rescuties stores and save a kitty life!http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect-home?tag=rescuties-20http://www.zazzle.com/rescuties*Buy or renew magazines and help our kitties!  http://www.magfundraising.com/rescutiesPlease help Trooper!http

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Kelley Saveika
I figure that amazingly enough he's been to vet school and I haven't.  The
local low cost spay and neuter places (I call them chop n shops) will do
them at 3 months, but their primary concern is that all animals be spayed
and neutered no matter what, and they killed one of our kittens with a
botched spay - never again.  Our current vet does them at 6 months because
his concern is the health of each individual animal - and I like that.

We have never had anyone get pregnant.

If they are not altered we adopt out on foster to adopt, which means we
still own the animal and they are fostering.  It works if you can keep up
with it.  We never transfer ownership on an unaltered animal.

On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 5:10 PM, Lorrie felineres...@kvinet.com wrote:

 Kelley, Our vet says exactly the same thing, so we s/n at 6 months.


 On 12-27, Kelley Saveika wrote:
  We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before that, and from
 what
  I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n in dogs I
 can't
  blame him.
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread janine paton
Last year we had a brother/sister feral pair just in, crated together and when 
spayed 2 wks later at 5 1/2 mos, the female was pregnant already with one 
kitten.  


We can't afford to spay.neuter every single litter we take on right away, but 
follow up like crazy with adoptions and our rule is spay/neuter at 5 mos.  They 
do heal faster at a younger age.  


See Winn Feline Foundation website for more information about this - it might 
dispel the myths of early spay/neuter, esp with boys.  


Human children seem to be more prone to early sexuality, why not cats? 

Janine




- Original Message 
From: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Mon, December 27, 2010 6:00:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

Wow, I went outside for a little bit to ride one of our horses.bunches
of new replies :-)

All our other cats were around 9 months old when spayed or neutered. I'm
from the Netherlands and there are not many vets that will do it earlier
then that. I've been reading and listening to the pros and cons to
early/late neutering and spaying, but there are just as many pros as cons in
either of them. I even lean towards early, because a kitten bounces back a
lot quicker then an older cat.
I've personally made up my mind that it is better to neuter young, but not
at like 3 weeks old or so. I don't think much can go wrong with a male. If a
vet messes that up, he needs to go back to school. With females I would wait
till older. It is a lot harder on them because they actually get opened up
and have all their female organs removed..
With my first question I was just wondering at what age most people have
their male kittens neutered. Didn't even think about the weight of the
kitten...makes a lot more sense!

Thanks for the all the replies!

2010/12/27 Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com

 Unfortunately that has been the experience of too many people.  Even with a
 contract and a spay/neuter deposit it does not happen.  Or it doesn't happen
 until after that little surprise litter from a 7 month old cat.  Early age
 spay/neuter goes a long way towards reducing pet overpopulation.  The areas
 that do very young spay/neuter amd have active feral cat programs have fewer
 kittens in shelters and higher adult cat adoptions.  So if you're going to
 adopt them out, fix them first.

 --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

  From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 1:14 PM
   I am a rescue group - but we don't
  have any laws in CT to alter them before
  adoptions.  Probably a great idea! I keep in personal
  contact with adopters
  and make absolutely sure that they spay/neuter at the
  appropriate times.
  But they found that even though people pay for the
  spay/neuter at the time
  of adoption, a huge percentage never come back to do
  it...Whether they do it
  on their own or not, isn't known.  More likely, they
  don't, and that's why
  such a problem continues.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
  On Behalf Of Susan Hoffman
  Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 3:45 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 
  It's different if you are a rescue who places animals for
  adoption.  In
  California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to
  adopt out an
  unaltered animal.  Also, we have so many vets in
  Northern California who are
  very experienced at early age spay/neuter.  It's the
  standard here and the
  kittens always seem to bounce back so quickly from their
  surgery.
 
  --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net
  wrote:
 
   From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM
   I personally do NOT neuter/spay until
   much later and have never had a
   sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early,
  and
   believes that
   neutering males so early has some possible future
  risks
   that are not yet
   known.
  
   -Original Message-
   From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
   [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
   On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
   Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
  
   We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them
  before
   that, and from what
   I've read about the bad possible side effects of early
  s/n
   in dogs I can't
   blame him.
  
   On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
   wrote:
  
   
My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds
  before
   surgery (usually 16
weeks)
   
 Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
 From: athenapities...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Belinda Sauro
My Vet spays and neuters when they are 4 lbs, so all of my guys 
were done about a month ago.  2 boys and a girl, all did fine.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread MaiMaiPG
Sometimes you have to take the chance and pray you are right.  I had a  
little girl spayed early..she had to stay at the vet's until she  
weighed enough and that was expensive. I think it was worth it  
though.  She has a wonderful home and will have no kittens.  She was a  
tiny feral and catching her once was very hard. Finding her a home at  
3 months (???) of age worked.  I don't know that she could have been  
caught or a home found if she had been much older.  And yes, the  
unneutered males in the area would have led Angel off to an uncertain  
future.


Copper and Thomas were done a little early because I wanted my very  
special vets in Louisville (Middletown Animal Clinic) to take care of  
them.  They weighed enough and one was thinking about spraying.  Both  
needed to be done at the same time to maintain the balance of power.   
There is two weeks or so difference in age. They did wonderfully.   
Don't ask how many times I checked on them that day...


Like I said, sometimes you have to push the calendar and trust the  
vet.  I would hate to turn a kitten/pup that was not spayed or  
neutered over to even the best home..I've watched too many people  
come up with reasons not to get the cat/dog fixed even when the bill  
was being paid and the baby transported and.always a  
reasonand more homeless animals.
On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:46 PM, ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org  
wrote:



I totally agree it is the law here as well.
Being a rescue and non-profit we do all kittens after they reach the  
desired weight before they are adopted out. Matter of fact I do not  
list any kittens until they have been done. I have 3 litters going  
next week with their moms to be altered.
Yes, they do bounced back after have this done. It is harder the  
older the kitty.
My Vets too are very experience doing these spay/neuters at young  
ages.
I have seen females come into heat at 41/1-5 months old then be  
pregnant at 6 months popping out kittens.
I've taken in several young moms in the last year more so than in  
the past years because of being too young to have kittens. People  
play off being stupid like they didn't know they could get pregnant  
at that age.

Male kittens and adults do try to go after them.
It's nature!

TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE
Sultan, WA. 98294
Terrie Mohr-Forker
http://tazzys.org/
Non-Profit national rescue
Dedicated to the welfare of animals.

Copyright © 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.


 Original Message 
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 12:44 pm
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

It's different if you are a rescue who places animals for adoption.  
In California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to adopt out  
an unaltered animal. Also, we have so many vets in Northern  
California who are very experienced at early age spay/neuter. It's  
the standard here and the kittens always seem to bounce back so  
quickly from their surgery.


--- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM
 I personally do NOT neuter/spay until
 much later and have never had a
 sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and
 believes that
 neutering males so early has some possible future risks
 that are not yet
 known.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
 On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
 Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

 We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before
 that, and from what
 I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n
 in dogs I can't
 blame him.

 On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
 wrote:

 
  My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before
 surgery (usually 16
  weeks)
 
   Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
   From: athenapities...@gmail.com
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
  
   Many of the vets I use with rescues want the
 kitten to weigh 2 pounds,
  age
   doesn't matter.
  
   --Katy
  
   On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 11:29 AM, Peggy Verdonck
 
   jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com
 wrote:
  
Hi,
   
Just a quick question. At what age do you
 guys have your male kittens
neutered. I have a 10 to 12 week old kitten
 (not sure exactly, found
  him at
a gas station).
We have to have him tested for Felv/Fiv and
 I was thinking to have him
neutered at the same time because it would
 save us a lot of money.
He is a strong and healthy guy and both his
 testicals are showing
  already.
   
Thanks for any replies,
   
Peggy

Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

2010-12-27 Thread Natalie
I had one kitten that I trapped at the dump, she was spayed early, very
early.  She was never the same after thatI will continue sticking to
my 6 months for both sexes and make sure they are spayed (our cats are
strictly indoor anyway).  I have never had any problems in 18 1/2 yrs with
people NOT altering them. If I were a huge group, I would probably
spay/neuter earlier and before they were adopted. N

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 10:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males

Sometimes you have to take the chance and pray you are right.  I had a  
little girl spayed early..she had to stay at the vet's until she  
weighed enough and that was expensive. I think it was worth it  
though.  She has a wonderful home and will have no kittens.  She was a  
tiny feral and catching her once was very hard. Finding her a home at  
3 months (???) of age worked.  I don't know that she could have been  
caught or a home found if she had been much older.  And yes, the  
unneutered males in the area would have led Angel off to an uncertain  
future.

Copper and Thomas were done a little early because I wanted my very  
special vets in Louisville (Middletown Animal Clinic) to take care of  
them.  They weighed enough and one was thinking about spraying.  Both  
needed to be done at the same time to maintain the balance of power.   
There is two weeks or so difference in age. They did wonderfully.   
Don't ask how many times I checked on them that day...

Like I said, sometimes you have to push the calendar and trust the  
vet.  I would hate to turn a kitten/pup that was not spayed or  
neutered over to even the best home..I've watched too many people  
come up with reasons not to get the cat/dog fixed even when the bill  
was being paid and the baby transported and.always a  
reasonand more homeless animals.
On Dec 27, 2010, at 7:46 PM, ter...@tazzys.org ter...@tazzys.org  
wrote:

 I totally agree it is the law here as well.
 Being a rescue and non-profit we do all kittens after they reach the  
 desired weight before they are adopted out. Matter of fact I do not  
 list any kittens until they have been done. I have 3 litters going  
 next week with their moms to be altered.
 Yes, they do bounced back after have this done. It is harder the  
 older the kitty.
 My Vets too are very experience doing these spay/neuters at young  
 ages.
 I have seen females come into heat at 41/1-5 months old then be  
 pregnant at 6 months popping out kittens.
 I've taken in several young moms in the last year more so than in  
 the past years because of being too young to have kittens. People  
 play off being stupid like they didn't know they could get pregnant  
 at that age.
 Male kittens and adults do try to go after them.
 It's nature!

 TAZZY'S ANIMAL TRANSPORTS/SIAMESE  COLLIE RESCUE
 Sultan, WA. 98294
 Terrie Mohr-Forker
 http://tazzys.org/
 Non-Profit national rescue
 Dedicated to the welfare of animals.

 Copyright C 1999-2010 tazzys.org. All rights reserved.


  Original Message 
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 From: Susan Hoffman susan_hoff...@yahoo.com
 Date: Mon, December 27, 2010 12:44 pm
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

 It's different if you are a rescue who places animals for adoption.  
 In California it is illegal for a 501(c)(3) non-profit to adopt out  
 an unaltered animal. Also, we have so many vets in Northern  
 California who are very experienced at early age spay/neuter. It's  
 the standard here and the kittens always seem to bounce back so  
 quickly from their surgery.

 --- On Mon, 12/27/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

  From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Monday, December 27, 2010, 10:49 AM
  I personally do NOT neuter/spay until
  much later and have never had a
  sprayer.my vet doesn't like doing it that early, and
  believes that
  neutering males so early has some possible future risks
  that are not yet
  known.
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org]
  On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika
  Sent: Monday, December 27, 2010 12:53 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males
 
  We do ours at 6 months; our vet will not do them before
  that, and from what
  I've read about the bad possible side effects of early s/n
  in dogs I can't
  blame him.
 
  On Mon, Dec 27, 2010 at 10:41 AM, Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com
  wrote:
 
  
   My vet prefers for them to weigh 3-4 pounds before
  surgery (usually 16
   weeks)
  
Date: Mon, 27 Dec 2010 11:33:58 -0500
From: athenapities...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Neutering males