Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance

2013-06-07 Thread Margo



Hi Chris,

 It's very possible to make your own cat food, and I have/do. It isn't as simple as chicken + a cat vitamin, but it isn't that difficult either. Google "Home prepared cat food" and start reading recipes. I use no grain and very few (if any) veggies and fruits. Essential are taurine and calcium, unless you're feeding raw with bone, then you can skip the Ca. 

 I liked the list, as well, as it gave me new foods to look into, but I was disappointed in most of them when I looked at the ingredients. The only one I use from there is Hound and Gatos. The other canned varieties seem to have too many extraneous ingredients, and I don't feed raw to the FeLV group, not even my own preparation. Tiki is way too expensive for me to even consider (I think the Hound and Gatos is too high, as well, but I do keep it in the mix) and most varieties have fish, which may not be good for my FLUTD/FeLV boys. I confess that I feed some "lpw-end" foods, simply beause I like the ingredient lists better than some of the high end ones. It's all a choice :)

HTH

Margo

 -Original Message- From: cer...@new.rr.com Sent: Jun 6, 2013 9:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance 


That’s a great site-thanks!I’ve been feeding mine Tiki Cat, and I was wondering...in
looking at it and reading the ingredients list, wouldn’t it be
a lot cheaper and just as good to boil some chicken and add
a cat vitamin?

Chris C.





From: Lance 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:32 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
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Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents took in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later.

About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support there is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there.

I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory infections. For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat. 

You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food:

http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2010/12/the-7-best-natural-commercial-cat-foods-so-far/

Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands like Hound  Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable.


On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:33 PM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote:



Hi Lance,







Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? 
***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms.
Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it?
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Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group

2013-06-06 Thread kasia mosko
Lorrie,

Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all turned out 
to be positive. I  have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one has lymphoma; I feel 
like my life has just ended. 
Kasia



 
 

Kasia,
I unknowingly mixed two FelV cats into my group, and the two positive cats
are now 5 years old and in apparent good health in spite of being positive. 
There were several other older cats (not kittens) who were exposed and only
one became very sick and had to be PTS.  The other 9 cats are still fine. 
One has been tested twice and still remains negative. FelV is not always a
death sentence for older cats who are exposed, but sadly I have found that 
kittens born to a FelV mother and testing positive almost always die at
a year or so old.   Good luck with your cats and welcome to the group.

Lorrie

On 06-02, kasia mosko wrote:
    Hello,
    I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline
    leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted
    two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me
    something totally different. One of them says that I should separate
    Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they
    are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already
    exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong
    enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it,
    the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may
    show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the
    vaccination. I am totally confused and not sure what my next step
    should be.
    Help would be greatly appreciated,
    Kasia


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Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group

2013-06-06 Thread Margo



Oh crap.

Kasia, I'm so sorry. I've been afraid to do that
Please, take a deep breath. Your life hasn't ended, and neither has theirs.

We need to think this through.

Okay. From what I seeJack was the original to test positive for FeLV, and healso has Lymphoma, which is currently being treated. 
Your other cats are now testing (Elisa?) positive for FeLV. According to this article;

http://abcd-vets.org/guidelines/guidelines_pdf/1201-FeLV_Guideline.pdf

there is a possibility that the others MAY not be persistently infected.

"The most widely used in-practice tests are antigen ELISA and
immunochromatography. As the prevalence of FeLV infection has decreased in
many European countries, also false positive test results tend to increase.
Therefore, a doubtful positive result in a healthy cat should always be confirmed,
preferably using provirus PCR (DNA PCR) offered by a reliable laboratory. A
positive test in a cat with clinical signs consistent with FeLV infection is more
reliable, as in sick cats the prevalence of FeLV is considerably higher.
Cats testing positive may overcome viraemia after two to sixteen weeks - in rare
cases even later. Therefore, every test-positive healthy cat should be separated
and retested after several weeks or months; depending on compliance of the
owner, retesting can be done still later (up to one year) when it is highly unlikely
that the cat will clear the viraemia."

It's the same thing I'm facing, if not to the same extent. I don't know if Gribble infected Mako, or vice-versa. Or are there other positives in this bunch, that will show up later, when they have health issues down the road. 

It's all very complicated. Every tine I think I get a handle on it, something else happens.

So I'm trying to go one day at a time. I will make their lives as wonderful as I can, and as comfortable. I will try to make wise decisions, though there are no quarantees. Basically, I will do the best that I can.

Again, I'm so very sorry that this has happened.

Margo

To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" <FELVTALK@FELINELEUKEMIA.ORG>Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group 

Lorrie,

Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all turned out to be positive. I have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended.
Kasia






Kasia,I unknowingly mixed two FelV cats into my group, and the two positive catsare now 5 years old and in apparent good health in spite of being positive. There were several other older cats (not kittens) who were exposed and onlyone became very sick and had to be PTS. The other 9 cats are still fine. One has been tested twice and still remains negative. FelV is not always adeath sentence for older cats who are exposed, but sadly I have found that kittens born to a FelV mother and testing positive almost always die ata year or so old. Good luck with your cats and welcome to the group.LorrieOn 06-02, kasia mosko wrote:  Hello,  I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline  leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted  two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me  something totally different. One of them says that I should separate  Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they  are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already  exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong  enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it,  the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may  show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the  vaccination. I am totally confused and not sure what my next step  should be.  Help would be greatly appreciated,  Kasia___Felvtalk mailing listFelvtalk@felineleukemia.orghttp://felineleukemia.org/mailman/listinfo/felvtalk_felineleukemia.org

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Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group

2013-06-06 Thread Beth
Kasia -
We've all made mistakes, but we have to go on and do the best we can with what 
the current situation is. I unknowingly infected a kitten once before I knew 
much about FeLV. No, your life isn't over. I currently have 4 FeLV cats. 2 I 
have had for 3 years. They have a much better chance at a longer life if they 
get it when they are older. 

Beth


 
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 From: kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 11:53 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group
 


Lorrie,

Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all turned out 
to be positive. I  have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one has lymphoma; I feel 
like my life has just ended. 
Kasia



 
 

Kasia,
I unknowingly mixed two FelV cats into my group, and the two positive cats
are now 5 years old and in apparent good health in spite of being positive. 
There were several other older cats (not kittens) who were exposed and only
one became very sick and had to be PTS.  The other 9 cats are still fine. 
One has been tested twice and still remains negative. FelV is not always a
death sentence for older cats who are exposed, but sadly I have found that 
kittens born to a FelV mother and testing positive almost always die at
a year or so old.   Good luck with your cats and welcome to the group.

Lorrie

On 06-02, kasia mosko wrote:
   
 Hello,
    I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline
    leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted
    two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me
    something totally different. One of them says that I should separate
    Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they
    are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already
    exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong
    enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it,
    the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may
    show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the
    vaccination. I am totally
 confused and not sure what my next step
    should be.
    Help would be greatly appreciated,
    Kasia


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Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group

2013-06-06 Thread Lorrie
Oh Kasia, I am so sorry. You must be absolutely devastated. It is really
unusual for older cats to become positive unless they were kittens at
the time they were with the positive cats.

I know you are shocked and frightened, but cats who test positive can still
live long lives, but it is important to catch the first sign of illness and
treat it. I hope your cats will be able to live with this virus and have a
good long life in spite of being positive.

Lorrie

On 06-06, kasia mosko wrote:
Lorrie,
Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all
turned out to be positive. I  have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one
has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended.
Kasia
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Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group

2013-06-06 Thread kasia mosko
Hi Lorrie,

Three of my cats are around 7-8 years old, one is little over 3 years, and two 
will be three years old soon. From what I understood is that older cats got 
infected because they hang around the carrier for a long period of time. It is 
such a shocking news, I still do not know how to deal with it; honestly, this 
is the worst time of my life. All of my animals are the most important things 
in my life, I cant imagine losing any of them...unless they are old and ready 
to go. 



 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group
 

Oh Kasia, I am so sorry. You must be absolutely devastated. It is really
unusual for older cats to become positive unless they were kittens at
the time they were with the positive cats.

I know you are shocked and frightened, but cats who test positive can still
live long lives, but it is important to catch the first sign of illness and
treat it. I hope your cats will be able to live with this virus and have a
good long life in spite of being positive.

Lorrie

    On 06-06, kasia mosko wrote:
    Lorrie,
    Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all
    turned out to be positive. I  have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one
    has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended.
    Kasia
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Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group

2013-06-06 Thread Lance
I'm so sorry, Kasia. You and your cats will be in my thoughts and prayers. As 
Lorrie said, it's very possible that an FeLV+ cat can live for years. I 
understand how you feel, though. I'm worried about a likely exposure in our 
house, and I also have an 11 year old FeLV+ girl of my own.

Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? 

Lance

On Jun 6, 2013, at 4:19 PM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi Lorrie,
 
 Three of my cats are around 7-8 years old, one is little over 3 years, and 
 two will be three years old soon. From what I understood is that older cats 
 got infected because they hang around the carrier for a long period of time. 
 It is such a shocking news, I still do not know how to deal with it; 
 honestly, this is the worst time of my life. All of my animals are the most 
 important things in my life, I cant imagine losing any of them...unless 
 they are old and  ready to go. 
 
 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Sent: Thursday, June 6, 2013 4:23 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group
 
 Oh Kasia, I am so sorry. You must be absolutely devastated. It is really
 unusual for older cats to become positive unless they were kittens at
 the time they were with the positive cats.
 
 I know you are shocked and frightened, but cats who test positive can still
 live long lives, but it is important to catch the first sign of illness and
 treat it. I hope your cats will be able to live with this virus and have a
 good long life in spite of being positive.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 06-06, kasia mosko wrote:
 Lorrie,
 Yesterday I had the rest of the cats tested for FelV, and they all
 turned out to be positive. I  have 6 cats suffering from FelV and one
 has lymphoma; I feel like my life has just ended.
 Kasia
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Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance

2013-06-06 Thread kasia mosko
Hi Lance,



Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? 
***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms.
Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it?
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Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance

2013-06-06 Thread Lance
Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the 
disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old 
when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got 
into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents took 
in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later.

About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support there 
is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there.

I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had 
very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell 
count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor 
bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory infections. 
For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat. 

You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food:

http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2010/12/the-7-best-natural-commercial-cat-foods-so-far/

Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands 
like Hound  Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable.

On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:33 PM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi Lance,
 
 
 Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? 
 ***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms.
 Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it?
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Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance

2013-06-06 Thread cerwin
That’s a great site-thanks!

I’ve been feeding mine Tiki Cat, and I was wondering...in
looking at it and reading the ingredients list, wouldn’t it be
a lot cheaper and just as good to boil some chicken and add
a cat vitamin?

Chris C.


From: Lance 
Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:32 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
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Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the 
disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old 
when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got 
into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents took 
in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later.

About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support there 
is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there.

I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had 
very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell 
count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor 
bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory infections. 
For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat. 

You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food:

http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2010/12/the-7-best-natural-commercial-cat-foods-so-far/

Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands 
like Hound  Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable.

On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:33 PM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote:


  Hi Lance,


  Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms? 
  ***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms.
  Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it?
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Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance

2013-06-06 Thread Lance
Hi Chris,

That would certainly make sense. Looking at it like that, I guess the extra 
money paid is going to the convenience of not having to buy chicken, boil it, 
and prepare it. Nothing more.

Side note: Ember is so spoiled by Tiki Cat that she avoids all paté types of 
foods. It sounds funny, but it might be something to consider before going down 
that route. I'm in a spot with her where I really, really can't have her not 
eating even for a few hours. So, Ember's Tiki Cat habit is the boss of me.

On Jun 6, 2013, at 8:53 PM, cer...@new.rr.com wrote:

 That’s a great site-thanks!
 
 I’ve been feeding mine Tiki Cat, and I was wondering...in
 looking at it and reading the ingredients list, wouldn’t it be
 a lot cheaper and just as good to boil some chicken and add
 a cat vitamin?
  
 Chris C.
  
  
 From: Lance
 Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2013 6:32 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group-Lance
  
 Ember was four years old when she tested positive, but she must have had the 
 disease prior to that. She might have been as young as two or three years old 
 when the infection became persistent. We still don't know how the virus got 
 into the house, whether through Ember herself or a stray kitten my parents 
 took  in who was later euthanized due to symptoms a year and a half later.
  
 About lymphoma, please join the feline lymphoma Yahoo! group. The support 
 there is amazing, and a vet frequently comments there.
  
 I'm glad that the others aren't showing symptoms. My Ember has thankfully had 
 very few issues with the virus. Her main symptoms are: low white blood cell 
 count, anisocoria (one pupil is fully open all the time), and some very minor 
 bouts of diarrhea (not in the last few years) and upper respiratory 
 infections. For the most part, she gets sick like a normal cat.
  
 You may want to check this blog post that covers cat food:
  
 http://www.naturalcatcareblog.com/2010/12/the-7-best-natural-commercial-cat-foods-so-far/
  
 Ember eats Tiki Cat these days, which is the priciest stuff, but other brands 
 like Hound  Gatos and Great Life Essentials are more affordable.
  
 On Jun 6, 2013, at 5:33 PM, kasia mosko kasia...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
 Hi Lance,
  
  
 Are any of your FeLV+ cats showing symptoms?
 ***Besides Jack, who has lymphoma, none of the other cats show any symptoms.
 Lance, when was your girl diagnosed with it?
 Kasia
  
  
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Re: [Felvtalk] New To Group

2013-06-02 Thread Margo



Hi Kasia,

 So sorry that you are facing this dilemma. I recently faced the same scenario. Like you, the more I learned, the less I seemed to know. All I can offer is the decision I made. When Gribble was diagnosed in March, he had been with his clowder a year and 2 months. At that time, all_tested_ negative. I asked my Vet whether there was anything to be done, and her words were "that ship has sailed". So I did not vaccinate his companions. However, any new additions and other cats that may come in contact with him will be vaccinated using the Merial rFeLV recombinant vaccine. I decided this when I was placed in a position of adding one more cat, and now it is done. Whether I made the right choice has yet to be determined. 

 You will find that there is no one answer. You will find people who mix, and thise who don't.

 All I can say is learn what you can, and if you have done that, make the best choice you can for your circumstances. Please let us know if there are specific questions, as someone here may have been in the same position, and will have some insight to offer.

All the best,

Margo

-Original Message- From: kasia mosko Sent: Jun 2, 2013 10:31 AM To: "felvtalk@felineleukemia.org" Subject: [Felvtalk] New To Group 

Hello,

I have six cats and one of the has been recently diagnosed with feline leukemia and lymphoma (going through a chemotherapy). I have contacted two vets regarding Jack, and my other cats, and they both tell me something totally different. One of them says that I should separate Jack, and test the other cats for Leukemia, and vaccinate them if they are negative. The second vets tells me that the cats were already exposed to the virus and hopefully their immune system was strong enough to fight it. I also understood that once a cat is exposed to it, the virus may come to the surface at any time (even though the test may show negative today it may change tomorrow), and it is too late for the vaccination. I am totally confused and not sure what my next step should be.
Help would be greatly appreciated,
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to group with 3 FeLV + 10 week old kittens

2011-12-30 Thread GRAS
Chris,

Since the kittens are now 10 weeks old now, how old were they when they were
first tested?  And how much time elapsed between the ELISA and the IFA
tests? This might mean something...this might mean that maybe they're not
really positive.  Always a chance for hope. Finding homes, not so great -
sanctuaries, far and in-between and filled. Try finding someone who already
has a FeLV+ cat - best chance.

Good luck!

Natalie

 

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of chris
Sent: Friday, December 30, 2011 2:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to group with 3 FeLV + 10 week old kittens

 

Hi all,

 

I'm new to the group.  I do Cat rescue for a Northern Virginia group and
took in 3 Persian Mix bottle babies (one female, two male) in November.
They were all scheduled for adoption at 8 weeks and the first one out tested
FeLV+.  All adoptions fell through.  They are gorgeous and affectionate.
They are now 10 weeks old.  All are ELISA + and one tested IFA +. It is
assumed that they received FeLV from the missing mother.  What are the
chances of finding adoptive homes for them? Or should I be looking for a
sanctuary?

 

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to group with 3 FeLV + 10 week old kittens

2011-12-30 Thread Maureen Olvey

The answer is yes.  I would try to find adoptive homes but also look into 
sanctuaries.  Obviously adoptive homes would be better and there's a chance.  
Not a very high chance they could get a home but at least being persian mixes 
they might can find a home with someone who has FeLV + cats.  It will be hard 
finding them homes because most kittens (not all) that have FeLV will not live 
past 3 years old so finding someone who is willing to have their heart broken 
after just a short time will be hard.  

Definitely test later on like Natalie said.  Kittens normally can't get rid of 
the virus but it's always best to give them more time then repeat the test.  In 
the mean time I would go ahead and put them up for adoption as a FeLV + kitten, 
if they're healthy right now that is.  

“I am not interested to know whether vivisection produces results that are 
profitable to the human race or doesn’t….the pain which it inflicts upon 
unconsenting animals is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me 
sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain

Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2011 14:36:40 -0500
From: ch...@beyondbehaviors.org
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to group with 3 FeLV + 10 week old kittens





















Hi all,

 

I’m new to the group.  I do Cat
rescue for a Northern
 Virginia group and
took in 3 Persian Mix bottle babies (one female, two male) in November. 
They were all scheduled for adoption at 8 weeks and the first one out tested
FeLV+.  All adoptions fell through.  They are gorgeous and
affectionate. They are now 10 weeks old.  All are ELISA + and one tested
IFA +. It is assumed that they received FeLV from the missing mother.  What
are the chances of finding adoptive homes for them? Or should I be looking for
a sanctuary?

 

Chris









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Re: [Felvtalk] New to group

2009-03-10 Thread Sue Frank Koren
There is a man from a cat forum I belong to who lives in Guntersville, AL.  
There is a beautiful lake there that he posted a picture of once.

I am so sorry your Pebbles is positive. It is such a shock to hear that 
diagnosis from a vet about your beloved pet. 
 Everyone here will tell you that the best thing you can do for her is to 
provide the best food you can afford, (Mine get Wellness canned)and an 
environment with as little stress as possible. 
Changing vets is a good idea seeing as the first thing they wanted to do was 
euthanize.  I actually sent a questionnaire around to local vets to try and 
chose the best one for my positives.  It is sometimes difficult to find one who 
will work with you and your positive.
I have two positives and five negatives.  My negatives are vaccinated and they 
all live together without being separated.  There are differences of opinion 
about mixing on this list. I am not the most knowledgeable person on this list 
but I'm sure there are others who will add to what I have written.
Best of luck to both you and Pebbles. 
Sue  
 Becky Penn be...@wholebackstage.com wrote: 
 I wan to start by saying that you to all of you who post here - I have
 learned so much from your comments-- much more that I could get from the
 vet!  We have a year old inside kitten (Pebbles) who became pregnant before
 we got around to getting her spayed. She is absolutely the most loving cat I
 have ever seen, and no signs of illness until. In mid January she had a
 spontaneous abortion, so we called the vet and took her in on a Sunday
 afternoon.  They gave her antibiotics and kept her over night to test her,
 and spay her when she got better.  When I called to check on her the next
 morning, I was told by the vets assistant that she had tested positive to
 FELV.  Not knowing anything about it at that time,  I asked what our options
 were.  The first words out of her mouth were euthanizing!  I was so upset,
 and decided not to do that, but to further investigate myself.  We had our
 other cats tested (both negative) and had our male neutered.  The vet
 suggested we not spay Pebbles at that time.  Pebbles got home and seemed
 like her normal self.  The only thing I have noticed is that occasionally
 she and dry food do not mix well - she throws it back up. Could this
 vomiting be stomachitis?I am checking out other vets in our area, hoping
 to find one that is more up to date on FelV.  Any suggestion anyone has I am
 open to.
 
  
 
 Becky Penn
 
 Guntersville, AL
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to group

2008-10-21 Thread Debbie Harrison

Hooray for her!  How wonderful to get such good news...my Monday is now 
complete!  Thanks for sharing with us.  Sometimes things seem so 
depressingbut news like this brightens anyone's day!Debbie (COL)I am only 
one, but I am one. I cannot do everything, but I can do something.And because I 
cannot do everything, I will not refuse to do the something that I can do. What 
I can do, I should do. And what I should do, by the grace of God,I will do
(Edward Everett Hale)  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Mon, 20 Oct 2008 
11:33:16 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to group 
 Oops, truncated message. She tested 30% positive (small, faded dot) at 9 
weeks.  Same at 11 weeks.  Then retested at 5.5 months old- positive 
again.  All 3 were the Elisa test.   Then our vet recommended the PCR test, 
which he says can detect even minute amounts of the virus, and is more accurate 
than the IFA.  Test results came back-- she is negative! We believe this is a 
miracle, as we didn't hold out much hope she'd turn positive.   So it does 
happen. My Dad has been feeding her EVO, and also probiotics. She is indoors 
only, up to date on her combo shot, dewormed, and really healthy otherwise. She 
had a poor appetite though for the most part. She is completely isolated from 
the other kittens we rescued, and my Dad is super vigilant about washing hands, 
keeping all areas and bedding, food, etc. separate...-Original 
Message- From: Saehwa Kang [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 
felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Sun, 19 Oct 
2008 6:44 pm Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to group I just 
joined the group and got some good news this past Friday. Lola,  the 6 month 
old feral kitten we resued tested positive on the ELISA  test at 9 weeks, 11 
weeks,  Sent from my iPhone  On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:17 AM, catatonya 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:   I've been mixing *except kittens* for nearly 15 
years now. I've   never had it transferred. Your cats should not have a 
problem.   Good luck!  tonya   Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] et wrote:  
Hello,  I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so  
 much  from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in   
terrible condition,  near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 
'tipped' ear and   I found out  later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in 
the TNR program. Don't   know whether  she was actually 'feral' though, but 
I doubt it because she has   become quite lovable.  Had her tested at a low 
cost clinic and was +. The vet there said   her teeth didn't  look so good 
and that was typical in feral cats.  When I took her to my regular vet, he 
somehow neglected to even look   in her  mouth and he said as a + she'd 
live a couple months to a year,   giving a very grim  diagnosis. I tried 
not to prod at her too much at first since she   was in such a  delicate 
condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed   she was missing 
 all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones   on 
the bottom. I was  horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even 
looked in   her mouth.  After nursing her back to health, she has become 
very healthy except   for some  sneezing spells every now and then. This 
does worry me because   sometimes  mucus comes out. She had extreme 
uncontrollable diarrhea  when I first got her, which after using fortiflora 
for a month 0A helped a lot, but did  not cure it completely. For the last 
week I have been feeding her a   raw chicken  diet (I have been feeding my 
other 3 cats this diet since February   with amazing results)  and her 
diarrhea is completely gone.  So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my 
other cats this entire   time, and she  really does seem to be happy there 
but I hate to keep them   separated. I am getting  ready to take her to the 
vet again to have her teeth checked out   because her breath  is really 
terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am   worried about 
stressing her  out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a 
  cleaning which will  probably stress her even more, but having an 
unhealthy mouth would   be worse on  her than the experience of a cleaning. 
Right?  I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year 
  and 5 months  (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd 
dose of   the felv vax) These  2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix.  
My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives   become + 
?? Any advice  would be greatly appreciated.   Tracey  
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to group

2008-10-20 Thread Saehwa Kang
Oops, truncated message.
She tested 30% positive (small, faded dot) at 9 weeks.

Same at 11 weeks.

Then retested at 5.5 months old- positive again.

All 3 were the Elisa test. 

Then our vet recommended the PCR test, which he says can detect even minute 
amounts of the virus, and is more accurate than the IFA.

Test results came back-- she is negative! We believe this is a miracle, as we 
didn't hold out much hope she'd turn positive. 

So it does happen. My Dad has been feeding her EVO, and also probiotics. She is 
indoors only, up to date on her combo shot, dewormed, and really healthy 
otherwise. She had a poor appetite though for the most part. She is completely 
isolated from the other kittens we rescued, and my Dad is super vigilant about 
washing hands, keeping all areas and bedding, food, etc. separate...



-Original Message-
From: Saehwa Kang [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sun, 19 Oct 2008 6:44 pm
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to group








I just joined the group and got some good news this past Friday. Lola,  
the 6 month old feral kitten we resued tested positive on the ELISA  
test at 9 weeks, 11 weeks,

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:17 AM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been mixing *except kittens* for nearly 15 years now.  I've  
 never had it transferred.  Your cats should not have a problem.   
 Good luck!
  tonya

 Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
et wrote:
  Hello,
 I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so  
 much
 from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in  
 terrible condition,
 near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and  
 I found out
 later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't  
 know whether
 she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has  
 become quite lovable.
 Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said  
 her teeth didn't
 look so good and that was typical in feral cats.
 When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look  
 in her
 mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year,  
 giving a very grim
 diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she  
 was in such a
 delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed  
 she was missing
 all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones  
 on the bottom. I was
 horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in  
 her mouth.
 After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except  
 for some
 sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because  
 sometimes
 mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea
 when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month  0A helped a 
 lot, but did
 not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a  
 raw chicken
 diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February  
 with amazing results)
 and her diarrhea is completely gone.
 So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire  
 time, and she
 really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them  
 separated. I am getting
 ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out  
 because her breath
 is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am  
 worried about stressing her
 out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a  
 cleaning which will
 probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would  
 be worse on
 her than the experience of a cleaning. Right?
 I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year  
 and 5 months
 (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of  
 the felv vax) These
 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix.
 My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives  
 become + ?? Any advice
 would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to group

2008-10-19 Thread catatonya
I've been mixing *except kittens* for nearly 15 years now.  I've never had it 
transferred.  Your cats should not have a problem.  Good luck!
  tonya

Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much
from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible 
condition, 
near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and I found out 
later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't know whether 
she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become quite 
lovable. 
Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said her teeth 
didn't 
look so good and that was typical in feral cats. 
When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in her 
mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a very 
grim 
diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in such a 
delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was 
missing 
all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the 
bottom. I was 
horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her mouth. 
After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for some 
sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because sometimes 
mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea 
when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month helped a lot, 
but did 
not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a raw chicken 
diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with amazing 
results) 
and her diarrhea is completely gone.
So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire time, and 
she 
really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated. I am 
getting 
ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because her 
breath 
is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am worried about 
stressing her 
out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning which 
will 
probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be worse on
her than the experience of a cleaning. Right? 
I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year and 5 
months 
(I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the felv 
vax) These 
2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix. 
My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + ?? 
Any advice
would be greatly appreciated.

Tracey
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to group

2008-10-19 Thread Chris
Have 2 positive and 3 negatives.  One of my pos lived with my 3 negs for
years before I even knew she was pos!  Nobody has come down with FELV--I
vaccinate the negs.  

Christiane Biagi
Cell:  914-720-6888
[EMAIL PROTECTED] 

-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of catatonya
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 1:17 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to group

I've been mixing *except kittens* for nearly 15 years now.  I've never had
it transferred.  Your cats should not have a problem.  Good luck!
  tonya

Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much
from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible
condition, 
near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and I found
out 
later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't know
whether 
she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become quite
lovable. 
Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said her teeth
didn't 
look so good and that was typical in feral cats. 
When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in her 
mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a very
grim 
diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in
such a 
delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was
missing 
all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the
bottom. I was 
horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her
mouth. 
After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for
some 
sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because sometimes 
mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea 
when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month helped a lot,
but did 
not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a raw
chicken 
diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with
amazing results) 
and her diarrhea is completely gone.
So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire time,
and she 
really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated. I am
getting 
ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because her
breath 
is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am worried about
stressing her 
out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning which
will 
probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be worse
on
her than the experience of a cleaning. Right? 
I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year and 5
months 
(I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the felv
vax) These 
2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix. 
My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + ??
Any advice
would be greatly appreciated.

Tracey
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to group

2008-10-19 Thread Sue Frank Koren
I have three positives and four negatives.  They have all been together 
since April.  I will have them re-tested before I vaccinate for Feline 
Leukemia  again in March, but to my knowledge they are all still negative. 
I lost my sweet Tucker in May  but my vet assured me he was still negative 
and the problems he had did not have anything to do with feline leukemia.
Sue

- Original Message - 
From: Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 9:22 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] New to group


 Hello,
I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so much
 from you all!  I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible 
 condition,
 near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc.  She had a 'tipped' ear and I 
 found out
 later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program.  Don't know 
 whether
 she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become 
 quite lovable.
 Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +.  The vet there said her 
 teeth didn't
 look so good and that was typical in feral cats.
When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look in 
 her
 mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a 
 very grim
 diagnosis.  I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in 
 such a
 delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she was 
 missing
 all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on the 
 bottom.  I was
 horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her 
 mouth.
 After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for 
 some
 sneezing spells every now and then.  This does worry me because sometimes
 mucus comes out.  She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea
 when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month helped a 
 lot, but did
 not cure it completely.  For the last week I have been feeding her a raw 
 chicken
 diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with 
 amazing results)
 and her diarrhea is completely gone.
So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire 
 time, and she
 really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated.  I 
 am getting
 ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because 
 her breath
 is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though).   I am worried 
 about stressing her
 out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning 
 which will
 probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be 
 worse on
 her than the experience of a cleaning.  Right?
I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year 
 and 5 months
 (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the 
 felv vax)  These
 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix.
 My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become + 
 ??  Any advice
 would be greatly appreciated.

 Tracey
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to group

2008-10-19 Thread Pat Kachur
I have seven catsone, Mandy, is positive.  I adopted her in July 2007. 
I discussed with my long-time vet and we agreed that if all my other six 
cats (all over five years old) had their vaccinations up to date (he stated 
that the vaccine is 90+ percent effective), there was very little danger to 
them.  So, 15 months have gone by and all are healthy--including Mandy, who 
is the absolute picture of health.  I believe there is very little danger in 
mixing as long as kittens are not involved.

Pat


- Original Message - 
From: Sue  Frank Koren [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Sunday, October 19, 2008 2:01 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] New to group


I have three positives and four negatives.  They have all been together
 since April.  I will have them re-tested before I vaccinate for Feline
 Leukemia  again in March, but to my knowledge they are all still negative.
 I lost my sweet Tucker in May  but my vet assured me he was still negative
 and the problems he had did not have anything to do with feline leukemia.
 Sue

 - Original Message - 
 From: Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Saturday, October 18, 2008 9:22 PM
 Subject: [Felvtalk] New to group


 Hello,
I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so 
 much
 from you all!  I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in terrible
 condition,
 near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc.  She had a 'tipped' ear and I
 found out
 later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program.  Don't know
 whether
 she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has become
 quite lovable.
 Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +.  The vet there said her
 teeth didn't
 look so good and that was typical in feral cats.
When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look 
 in
 her
 mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year, giving a
 very grim
 diagnosis.  I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she was in
 such a
 delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed she 
 was
 missing
 all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones on 
 the
 bottom.  I was
 horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in her
 mouth.
 After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except for
 some
 sneezing spells every now and then.  This does worry me because sometimes
 mucus comes out.  She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea
 when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month helped a
 lot, but did
 not cure it completely.  For the last week I have been feeding her a raw
 chicken
 diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February with
 amazing results)
 and her diarrhea is completely gone.
So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire
 time, and she
 really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them separated.  I
 am getting
 ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out because
 her breath
 is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though).   I am worried
 about stressing her
 out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a cleaning
 which will
 probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would be
 worse on
 her than the experience of a cleaning.  Right?
I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year
 and 5 months
 (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of the
 felv vax)  These
 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix.
 My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives become +
 ??  Any advice
 would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to group

2008-10-19 Thread Saehwa Kang
I just joined the group and got some good news this past Friday. Lola,  
the 6 month old feral kitten we resued tested positive on the ELISA  
test at 9 weeks, 11 weeks,

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On Oct 19, 2008, at 10:17 AM, catatonya [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 I've been mixing *except kittens* for nearly 15 years now.  I've  
 never had it transferred.  Your cats should not have a problem.   
 Good luck!
  tonya

 Tracey [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hello,
 I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned so  
 much
 from you all! I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in  
 terrible condition,
 near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc. She had a 'tipped' ear and  
 I found out
 later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program. Don't  
 know whether
 she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has  
 become quite lovable.
 Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +. The vet there said  
 her teeth didn't
 look so good and that was typical in feral cats.
 When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even look  
 in her
 mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year,  
 giving a very grim
 diagnosis. I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she  
 was in such a
 delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed  
 she was missing
 all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones  
 on the bottom. I was
 horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in  
 her mouth.
 After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except  
 for some
 sneezing spells every now and then. This does worry me because  
 sometimes
 mucus comes out. She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea
 when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month  
 helped a lot, but did
 not cure it completely. For the last week I have been feeding her a  
 raw chicken
 diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February  
 with amazing results)
 and her diarrhea is completely gone.
 So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this entire  
 time, and she
 really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them  
 separated. I am getting
 ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out  
 because her breath
 is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though). I am  
 worried about stressing her
 out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a  
 cleaning which will
 probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would  
 be worse on
 her than the experience of a cleaning. Right?
 I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1 year  
 and 5 months
 (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of  
 the felv vax) These
 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix.
 My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives  
 become + ?? Any advice
 would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to group

2008-10-18 Thread Sally Davis
Tracey

It is a very personal decision. In an ideal world with a perfect setup, I
probably would not mix. However in a small house 10 cats and all of them
were exposed before the diagnosis I mixed after vaccinating the negative
cats. I wound up with 3 positives out of 11 cats and a cat that died just
before this but never tested. I am sure he was positive too. Junior lived
the longest. I felt it was less stressful mixing them. I did wound up with 3
additional cats. No I did not add them they showed up. The three new cats
were kept separate while getting vaccinated and time for it to take effect.
None of the other cats became positive. Be aware there is still a risk.

Good Luck and bless you for taking care of her.

Oh yes I found that the immuno regin helped Junior's gingivitis clear up. It
is an immune booster mentioned on teh website.

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to group

2008-10-18 Thread Marylyn
Try Rescue Remedy on her long before you take her to the vet.  I am a  
fan of PetzLife's products.  A couple of us have listed holistic vets  
who will consult by phone if you don;t have one locally.

Do not fixate on  what may happen.  Focus on the present and the  
wonderful little friend you have.  The future is no guaranteed to any  
of us.

Blessings to you and to her.
On Oct 18, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Tracey wrote:

 Hello,
I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned  
 so much
 from you all!  I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in  
 terrible condition,
 near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc.  She had a 'tipped' ear and  
 I found out
 later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program.  Don't  
 know whether
 she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has  
 become quite lovable.
 Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +.  The vet there said  
 her teeth didn't
 look so good and that was typical in feral cats.
When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even  
 look in her
 mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year,  
 giving a very grim
 diagnosis.  I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she  
 was in such a
 delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed  
 she was missing
 all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones  
 on the bottom.  I was
 horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in  
 her mouth.
 After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except  
 for some
 sneezing spells every now and then.  This does worry me because  
 sometimes
 mucus comes out.  She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea
 when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month  
 helped a lot, but did
 not cure it completely.  For the last week I have been feeding her a  
 raw chicken
 diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February  
 with amazing results)
 and her diarrhea is completely gone.
So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this  
 entire time, and she
 really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them  
 separated.  I am getting
 ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out  
 because her breath
 is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though).   I am  
 worried about stressing her
 out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a  
 cleaning which will
 probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would  
 be worse on
 her than the experience of a cleaning.  Right?
I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1  
 year and 5 months
 (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of  
 the felv vax)  These
 2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix.
 My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives  
 become + ??  Any advice
 would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to group

2008-10-18 Thread Beth Gouldin
I have heard that Coenzym Q-10 can be very helpful with gum problems and
heart problems.. I give to my kitties on a weekly basis (I take it myself as
well) and also making sure that they get to chew on some raw bones (like
thigh bones or wings or backs/necks)  will help floss/brush those teeth too.
My two are entirely raw-fed and they have great teeth - one came to us with
plaque and red gums and has since cleared up. Also - on another note - the
more variety in a raw diet the better (meaty bones, muscle meat and organs
from different types of animals) to make sure that they are getting all the
essential vitamins and aminos they need. if they don't eat bones they need
to get calcium from another source and if chicken is all they get they may
need supplemental taurine too.There's a great raw yahoo group that I'm a
member of - rawcats  or there's also rawfedcats.org which has lots of great
info on it.

Rescue Remedy is AMAZING stuff

This group  (felv) is a fantastic place for information, ideas,
encouragement and ultimately comfort when dealing with this disease.
 welcome.

Beth (Orion + = RIP, Athena +, Ajax +)

On Sat, Oct 18, 2008 at 8:58 PM, Marylyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Try Rescue Remedy on her long before you take her to the vet.  I am a
 fan of PetzLife's products.  A couple of us have listed holistic vets
 who will consult by phone if you don;t have one locally.

 Do not fixate on  what may happen.  Focus on the present and the
 wonderful little friend you have.  The future is no guaranteed to any
 of us.

 Blessings to you and to her.
 On Oct 18, 2008, at 8:22 PM, Tracey wrote:

  Hello,
 I have to say this is a very enlightening forum. I have learned
  so much
  from you all!  I found a stray 2 months ago at work who was in
  terrible condition,
  near death, starving, fleas, worms, etc.  She had a 'tipped' ear and
  I found out
  later she was an Indy Feral cat who was in the TNR program.  Don't
  know whether
  she was actually 'feral' though, but I doubt it because she has
  become quite lovable.
  Had her tested at a low cost clinic and was +.  The vet there said
  her teeth didn't
  look so good and that was typical in feral cats.
 When I took her to my regular vet, he somehow neglected to even
  look in her
  mouth and he said as a + she'd live a couple months to a year,
  giving a very grim
  diagnosis.  I tried not to prod at her too much at first since she
  was in such a
  delicate condition, but about a week after the vet appt, I noticed
  she was missing
  all of her tiny teeth on the top and all but one of the little ones
  on the bottom.  I was
  horrified and it was then realized that my vet hadn't even looked in
  her mouth.
  After nursing her back to health, she has become very healthy except
  for some
  sneezing spells every now and then.  This does worry me because
  sometimes
  mucus comes out.  She had extreme uncontrollable diarrhea
  when I first got her, which after using fortiflora for a month
  helped a lot, but did
  not cure it completely.  For the last week I have been feeding her a
  raw chicken
  diet (I have been feeding my other 3 cats this diet since February
  with amazing results)
  and her diarrhea is completely gone.
 So she's been in my bathroom isolated from my other cats this
  entire time, and she
  really does seem to be happy there but I hate to keep them
  separated.  I am getting
  ready to take her to the vet again to have her teeth checked out
  because her breath
  is really terrible (seeing a different vet there though).   I am
  worried about stressing her
  out by taking her to the vet and I know they will recommend a
  cleaning which will
  probably stress her even more, but having an unhealthy mouth would
  be worse on
  her than the experience of a cleaning.  Right?
 I have 3 other (negative) cats, 2 are adults and one is about 1
  year and 5 months
  (I guess you'd call her an adult, she did just have her 2nd dose of
  the felv vax)  These
  2 vets say they would absolutely NOT mix.
  My question to all of you who mix is: Have any of your negatives
  become + ??  Any advice
  would be greatly appreciated.
 
  Tracey
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to Group

2008-10-13 Thread Marylyn
The holistic vets I consult use a lot of vitamin C too.
On Oct 13, 2008, at 8:52 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  wrote:

 Puritan's Pride is a good source.  i trust their products.  L Lysine  
 is good.  also echinea, and my personal favorite is vitamin E.  i  
 use it for everything.  just not sure about cats.  things that never  
 hurt dogs and other animals can do them in.  we all need to start  
 searching for reliable sources of info on herbs, oils, etc.  when  
 you read about all the side effcts of man made meds, makes you  
 wonder if we should trust them.  dorlis
  Sally Davis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 You Are at the right place for advice. It will vary from person to  
 person. I
 am so glad you took Macy into your home. Lessening stress is  
 important.
 Feeding a high quality diet the best you can afford. I say that bc  
 the best
 that I could afford was different from what other folks feed. Immune
 boosters are a start. Since many of these cats also have FHV L  
 Lysine is a
 good start and may alleviate her upper respiratory symptoms. At any  
 rate it
 will not do any harm and is inexpensive. I got mine from Puritans  
 Pride. I
 ordered capsules 500mg. You can mix it with wet food. One or two  
 per day
 depending on symptoms. Well I have to run to work. You will get more
 information I am sure.

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to Group

2008-10-12 Thread Sally Davis
You Are at the right place for advice. It will vary from person to person. I
am so glad you took Macy into your home. Lessening stress is important.
Feeding a high quality diet the best you can afford. I say that bc the best
that I could afford was different from what other folks feed. Immune
boosters are a start. Since many of these cats also have FHV L Lysine is a
good start and may alleviate her upper respiratory symptoms. At any rate it
will not do any harm and is inexpensive. I got mine from Puritans Pride. I
ordered capsules 500mg. You can mix it with wet food. One or two per day
depending on symptoms. Well I have to run to work. You will get more
information I am sure.

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Re: [Felvtalk] New to Group

2008-10-12 Thread Susan Ang
One think that has really worked for Autumn has been brushing her teeth.
When she was six months old she suddenly developed terrible breath-odor. I
went out and got her a tooth brush from Petsmart the next day. She loves the
tste of the toothpaste. It was easier when she was a kitten, but she runs
now. I just make sure to get the gum line on either side every day. I can
tell a difference, if I miss an area. I think that keeping her gums healthy
has been one reason she's enjoyed relatively good health.
She eats Innova Evo food, which I can't say enough good things about. She
has an excellent coat.
She's about 15 months old now.
~Susan

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 We inherited a positive kitten a?number of months ago and don't know a
 whole lot of what we should do to keep her healthy. Macy is such a sweet 7
 month old girl. She normally has lots and LOTS! of energy. She has her
 favorite toys and even puts them in her condo occasionally. In the past
 couple of days, she's been very quiet and not eating or drinking much.
 Today, we had to search the house to find her - she normally comes when
 called. The only thing she'd eat was a small amount of people tuna but
 didn't drink. For the past few months she's been making noise as she sleeps
 (very heavy breathing) and occasionally when she's cuddling.?We took her to
 the emergency vet clinic today. She has a slight fever and a distended
 tummy. They're keeping her overnight and putting her on an IV and
 antibiotic. What is the best food for a positive kitten and what supplements
 seem to work? Our regular vet is willing to listen to whatever we learn. Any
 recommendations or comments are welcome.
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Re: [Felvtalk] New to Group

2008-10-12 Thread Sharyl
Dawn a lot will depend what the vet tells you.  Mine haven't had those 
symptoms.  I have 4 FeLV+ kittens I rescued.  They get Chicken Soup Kitten 
Lovers canned food with supplements, I am currently giving them Lactoferrin, 
DMG, Super B Complex, B12, folic acid,  L-Lysine and Brewers yeast.   No idea 
if any of the supplements are helping but they are healthy 18 week old babies.
 
I also have 2 kittens a yr old I rescued early this yr.  They were getting the 
same supplements mix until I mixed them with my other cats.  Now they will only 
eat everyone else's food.  Still trying to figure out a way to get the 
supplements into them without having to resort to syringing them.
 
Good food, low stress and lots of love are the best treatments.
Sharyl

On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 11:03 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We inherited a positive kitten a?number of months ago and don't know a
 whole lot of what we should do to keep her healthy. Macy is such a sweet 7
 month old girl. She normally has lots and LOTS! of energy. She has her
 favorite toys and even puts them in her condo occasionally. In the past
 couple of days, she's been very quiet and not eating or drinking much.
 Today, we had to search the house to find her - she normally comes when
 called. The only thing she'd eat was a small amount of people tuna but
 didn't drink. For the past few months she's been making noise as
she sleeps
 (very heavy breathing) and occasionally when she's cuddling.?We took
her to
 the emergency vet clinic today. She has a slight fever and a distended
 tummy. They're keeping her overnight and putting her on an IV and
 antibiotic. What is the best food for a positive kitten and what
supplements
 seem to work? Our regular vet is willing to listen to whatever we learn.
Any
 recommendations or comments are welcome.
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