Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread Natalie
-Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Kelley Saveika Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:53 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! Yes, I am. When I originally came

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread Lorrie
Peggy, Shelter workers hear so many phoney reasons why people have brought in animals that they get very cynical and bitter. In your case you were helping the Husky, but they didn't know that. Lorrie On 08-05, Peggy Verdonck wrote: I totally agree, but another side of the story...I got

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread Lorrie
On 08-05, Joslin Potter wrote: I don't get that either, I have a friend of a friend who is looking to get rid of her 12 yr old cats becuase they are having a baby and she just can't take that chance of the cats smothering the child. What a crock that is. I have three grown children, and

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread Lorrie
On 08-05, Edna Taylor wrote: I don't see that it is not kind and supportive list but the truth is the truth, people give up their pets at an alarming rate and for, sometimes, what amounts to really stupid reasons. So true. They give up their pets for no valid reason at all. I've

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
that? Absolutely not. Are too many people like that? you bet your boots. Sad, but true :( From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:48:17 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! In all honesty, I have found MANY people

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2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
I have been arond cats and dogs all my life and have never heard of a child being smothered. Lil Bit has to lay on my shoulder, touching bare skin and her whiskers tickle but that is all. Ask her to give you 1 verified instance of a cat smothering a child. She can't find one. The cat is 12

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2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
To many, they are nothing more than a worn out pair of shoes. Lots of people in the country let their animals run loose and do not get them spayed/neutered because it costs too much. All they would have to do is do without beer and cigarettes and soda and all junk food for a month.

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2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
We have a no kill shelter here in Lincoln County and the animal control officers are finally getting the message that shooting them or sticking their noses in the exhaust of a car is not the answer. They bring them to PALS. Problem is, PALS is strictly volunteer and contributions only. They

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
GRANDMOTHER was abusive. SPAY AND NEUTER... --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 3:56 PM

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2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
is the basis of my enmity toward it, and it is to me sufficient justification of the enmity without looking further.” – Mark Twain Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:56:22 -0700 From: joslinir...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! I think

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2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:01:19 -0700 From: joslinir...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! i like that Edna, I'm so posting that to my FB! From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread Natalie
, August 06, 2011 12:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! bUT ONCE i GET THE ANIMAL IN MY HANDS, I USUALLY GIVE THEM A PIECE OF MY MIND Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com wrote: The worse part is that if you're the one in the rescue

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
DOES need a neuter! From: D.S.Louis delain...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! Lets spay and neuter the people.Phoenix is GIVING away cats and dogs this weekend because they have so many

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
Usually when a cat pees out of the box, their is a reason. Sometimes it could be emotional. Did you move? New member of the family, Even new furniture or a new furniture arrangement can freak them out. Nitnoy pees i unexpected places because another cat rounds the corner when she does and

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2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
You get very cynical by the time you have heard the I found this dog/cat. So many people use that excuse. When someone who really wants te best for the animal comes in, maybe they are the 10th person that day to say that so they get blasted. They are the last straw that broke the camel's

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
These days, children are disposable. Just look at all the stories on TV about people who lee their children in a hot car so they can go to a restaurant and enjoy a nice meal. Actually had this happen in St. Louis recently. They went into Pasta House. Someone noticed the children in the car

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
out instead!! If he has no feelings for helpless animals, then how will he treat her? Geez! - Original Message - From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! I DO

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
, Aug 5, 2011 at 2:19 PM, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.netwrote: Kudos to her :) - Original Message - From: D.S.Louis delain...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! Lets spay

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
:17 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! You have to admit, those are unusual cases, where people REALLY have allergy problems, or moving and can't take pets - but most wait until a week or two before leaving

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! On 08-04, Natalie wrote: I hate people (except us)do you know how cowardly and cruel people are? They bring their cats/dogs to surrender at a shelter and claim

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-06 Thread dlgegg
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net Sent: Saturday, August 06, 2011 12:22 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! bUT ONCE i GET THE ANIMAL IN MY HANDS, I USUALLY GIVE THEM A PIECE OF MY MIND Maureen Olvey

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2011-08-06 Thread D.S.Louis
...@windstream.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Saturday, August 6, 2011, 9:36 AM I have asked my friends ad vet to tell me if thy think I am getting out of control and hoarding.  It is so easy to take them in, you want to help them, but you

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Lorrie
On 08-04, Natalie wrote: I hate people (except us)do you know how cowardly and cruel people are? They bring their cats/dogs to surrender at a shelter and claim that they are strays...a 14-yr old cat was just brought to a NY shelter, healthy but with a slight sniffle - how can anyone do

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Kelley Saveika
In all honesty, I have found MANY people in rescue to be horribly cruel and judgmental - towards OTHER PEOPLE, particularly other people in rescue. Rescue is a cutthroat business and not for the faint of heart. There's always someone ready to kick you when you're down, say you are not doing

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Edna Taylor
:( From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:48:17 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! In all honesty, I have found MANY people in rescue to be horribly cruel and judgmental - towards OTHER PEOPLE, particularly other people in rescue

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Lynda Wilson
It's a sad, selfish world!!! - Original Message - From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 9:14 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! On 08-04, Natalie wrote: I hate people (except us)do you know how

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Lynda Wilson
! - Original Message - From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! I DO tend to be judgmental when I get the I met a man and need to dump my cat because he has a dog/kids/hates cats

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread D.S.Louis
out instead!! If he has no feelings for helpless animals, then how will he treat her? Geez! - Original Message - From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 11:54 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! I DO tend

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:48 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! In all honesty, I have found MANY people in rescue to be horribly cruel and judgmental - towards OTHER PEOPLE, particularly other people in rescue. Rescue is a cutthroat business

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
I ABSOLUTELY AGREE! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 12:54 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! I DO tend

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Edna Taylor
YEP, first it's the cat she gives up, what is next? Also, I wonder, is it hard to walk and drive a car without a spine? Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12:57:16 -0500 From: longhornf...@verizon.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! That's a shame

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2011-08-05 Thread Edna Taylor
Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 11:17:43 -0700 From: delain...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! Lets spay and neuter the people.Phoenix is GIVING away cats and dogs this weekend because they have so many in their shelterOne woman

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Edna Taylor
: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:30:17 -0400 From: at...@optonline.net To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! You have to admit, those are unusual cases, where people REALLY have allergy problems, or moving and can't take pets - but most wait until a week or two

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Lynda Wilson
Kudos to her :) - Original Message - From: D.S.Louis delain...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! Lets spay and neuter the people.Phoenix is GIVING away cats and dogs this weekend because

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Kelley Saveika
@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! Lets spay and neuter the people.Phoenix is GIVING away cats and dogs this weekend because they have so many in their shelterOne woman broght in 8 dogs.. --- On Fri, 8/5

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Kelley Saveika
this weekend because they have so many in their shelterOne woman broght in 8 dogs.. --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net wrote: From: Lynda Wilson longhornf...@verizon.net Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Edna Taylor
a forever home. They are not only my pets/fosters, They are a part of my family. From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:57:03 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! Wow, this used to be a really kind, supportive, positive list

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Edna Taylor
From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:59:04 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! According to studies, giving away cats and dogs does not make the person value them any less. I paid $5 for my Missy and she is priceless

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2011-08-05 Thread Lorrie
This is STILL a kind, supportive group, but those of us who rescue see too much neglect and cruelty to look at the world thru rose colored glasses. While it is true that not all people are irresponsible and uncaring, we see entirely too many people who consider animals as disposable things.

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2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:59:04 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! According to studies, giving away cats and dogs does not make the person value them any less. I paid $5 for my Missy and she is priceless

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Peggy Verdonck
I totally agree, but another side of the story...I got treated VERY bad by shelter personnel because I brought in a stray husky I found on the side of the road! I knew they thought I was lying. It made me feel horribble because I would never do that to one of my own animals!!! If they treat

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Kelley Saveika
I do rescue and have for years, and the people who have been by far the nastiest to me, have been OTHER RESCUERS.We recently had a cat in our program who was being advertised on Craigslist because she kept peeing outside the box. Everyone CANNOT keep a cat that keeps peeing outside the box.

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Kelley Saveika
...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Edna Taylor Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 4:19 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! Unfortunately, as has been proven by a few cruelty cases here in Texas, giving away pets on Craigslist is a recipe for disaster. Case

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2011-08-05 Thread Edna Taylor
Kelley, Are you the same Kelley from Austin who used to work with Siamese Rescue? From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:29:20 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! I don't ask them if they have cable TV. I just give them food

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2011-08-05 Thread Joslin Potter
and with a FeLV + cat it's just to hard to keep them all 8( But well said, you know your truth! From: Peggy Verdonck jetalitosunnys...@gmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 5:21 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! I totally agree, but another side

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Joslin Potter
all know, people love baby animals but once there older, they get the boot, i cannot stand people like that. My animals are my children you know? From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 10:14 AM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Joslin Potter
] No Good Rotten People! In all honesty, I have found MANY people in rescue to be horribly cruel and judgmental - towards OTHER PEOPLE, particularly other people in rescue. Rescue is a cutthroat business and not for the faint of heart.  There's always someone ready to kick you when you're down, say you

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Joslin Potter
Are you serious, did she get arrested for animal hording? Come on who does that? She DOES need a neuter! From: D.S.Louis delain...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 2:17 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! Lets spay and neuter the people

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Joslin Potter
: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 2:52 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! YEP, first it's the cat she gives up, what is next?  Also, I wonder, is it hard to walk and drive a car without a spine? Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 12

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Joslin Potter
i like that Edna, I'm so posting that to my FB! From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 4:18 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! I don't see that it is not kind and supportive list but the truth is the truth

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Joslin Potter
From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 14:59:04 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! According to studies, giving away cats and dogs does not make the person value them any less. I paid $5 for my Missy and she is priceless

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Maureen Olvey
I guess we've all seen a little of everything. The problem with us in rescue is that by definition rescue means you are rescuing homeless or abused animals. So rescue people will always see the worst and it makes us hard and cynical. The pure selfishness of people probably gets to

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Maureen Olvey
From: joslinir...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! i like that Edna, I'm so posting that to my FB! From: Edna Taylor taylore...@msn.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 4:18 PM Subject: Re

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Maureen Olvey
: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 15:56:22 -0700 From: joslinir...@yahoo.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! I think that people should have to be kept on record when they take animals to the pound and what not, i wonder, quite honestly, how many people out

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Maureen Olvey
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! On 08-04, Natalie wrote: I hate people (except us)do you know how cowardly and cruel people are? They bring their cats/dogs to surrender at a shelter and claim that they are strays...a 14-yr old cat was just brought to a NY shelter

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
and offered to keep them for her...haven't heard back yet. -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:28 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good

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2011-08-05 Thread Natalie
AMEN to that! -Original Message- From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Maureen Olvey Sent: Friday, August 05, 2011 7:41 PM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! You should tell her

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread TANYA NOE
Edna, can I steal that line for my FB as well. lets see how far it travels around the rescue community! --- On Fri, 8/5/11, Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org

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2011-08-05 Thread Kelley Saveika
with Siamese Rescue? From: moonv...@gmail.com Date: Fri, 5 Aug 2011 16:29:20 -0500 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! I don't ask them if they have cable TV. I just give them food. On Fri, Aug 5, 2011 at 4:19 PM, Natalie at...@optonline.net

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2011-08-05 Thread D.S.Louis
, Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com wrote: From: Joslin Potter joslinir...@yahoo.com Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Date: Friday, August 5, 2011, 3:56 PM I think that people should have to be kept on record when

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2011-08-05 Thread terrie
Original Message ----Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!From: Kelley Saveika moonv...@gmail.comDate: Fri, August 05, 2011 9:48 amTo: felvtalk@felineleukemia.orgIn all honesty, I have found MANY people in rescue to be horribly cruel andjudgmental - towards OTHER PEOPLE, parti

Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People!

2011-08-05 Thread Joslin Potter
I agree. we are not speaking. From: Maureen Olvey molvey...@hotmail.com To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Sent: Friday, August 5, 2011 7:40 PM Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] No Good Rotten People! You should tell her to tell her friend that she needs to come out of the dark ages and stop believing