Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more-Sourcesforproducts?

2010-07-28 Thread trmckelvey
Hi Gary,

Do you have any information on concentration of acemannan and dosing for the 
discontinued product?  I'm investigating several sources for powdered 
acemannan, which is taken orally.  It might offer an alternative to the 
injectable form, although I suspect doses are smaller and might require longer 
usage time to show results.

Terry
 gary gcru...@centurytel.net wrote: 

=
I am afraid I have some very bad news concerning Acemannan.  I have found 
out the manufacturer, Carrington Labs, is out of business.  I emailed VPL 
and they said as far as they know, there is no one else making it. So, we 
have another product that was effective in saving the lives of cats that is 
no longer available.

Gary

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more-Sourcesforproducts?

 It is made by Carrington Labs and was being marketed by VPL, but it is no 
 longer on their website and a search shows their contract with Carrington 
 Labs expired in April.  I am going to call Carrington Labs in the morning 
 and see if they have another distributor, I sure hope it is still 
 available. It comes in a box containing four 10 mg containers.  The last 
 time my vet ordered it, it was $225, that was his cost.  The protocol is 2 
 mg/KG IP, weekly for 6 weeks and then monthly.  The monthly shots can be 
 given sub-q. For those unfamiliar with what IP means, it means through the 
 wall of the abdomen.

 The instructions say you must use it within 4 hours of mixing it, but the 
 vet who was the technical assistance person for VPL told me any leftover 
 would keep fine in the fridge for a week and for a month in the freezer.

 Gary

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 Could you describe what the Acemannan (sp?)  is and how it's used? Also 
 what are
 good sources for this and also pettinic?  Alice
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more

2010-07-26 Thread jbero tds.net
Alice,

I am so sorry.  I was really hoping the LTCI would do it.  Pet tinic and
epogen and whatever else may help with anemia is usually only a temporary
fix.  The real problem is the underlying bone marrow deficiency due to
infectivity with virus.  I have been with this group long enough to have
hopes for so many different possibilities.  Sometimes they work, sometimes
not.  I know you have too.

I have a long shot.  I requested this for Wolfie too, but want to ask you.
There is a tonic comprised of four herbs.  They are anti-inflammatory, and
for cancer.  A host of secondary positive effects have been noted with its
use including cessation of certain viral infections.  It appears to seek out
and destroy abnormal cells while leaving healthy ones behind.  It also
provides an anti-inflammatory which in many settings can be beneficial.  It
hasn't been used for felv as far as I can tell, but in theory I think it
could help.  If you are interested I can get you the name of the herbs,
where to get them and how to prepare them.  It takes time to do it and
concentrate it so it may take a week before you have the final product.  Let
me know what you think.

The herbs in graviola, neem and chaparral.  The fourth is escaping me right
now, but I can find it.

God bless and I will pray for you.

Jenny


On 7/24/10, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Alice I understand how stressful this is for all of you.  Here is a link to
 a site that helps explain test results
 Broadway Vet BW Explanations
 http://tinyurl.com/2ex549
 Just click on the item and open the pdf file.  For example it says
 moderately elevated HCT could possibly be a sign of dehydration.

 After fighting anemia with a CRF kitty and several FeLV kitties I
 understand your frustration.  I didn't get alarmed until the HCT fell below
 20%.  I did use supplements like NutriVed, Super B Complex. B12 and folic
 acid to help them build new red blood cells.

 I rescued a litter of 4 positive 4 week old kittens and lost all 4 of
 them.  Mattie who was blind made it the longest to about 16 months.  I had
 adopted 2 positive kittens from a nearby rescue group and lost them after
 just a few months to FIP.  I had earlier rescued 2 positive kittens, about 4
 month old.  I only have Rocket left.  She is just over 3 now and is starting
 to show signs of the disease.

 The heartbreak doesn't get any easier.  The thought that keeps me going is
 they had a good life for as long as they were on this earth.  They were
 loved and cared for.  So many wonderful kitties don't even have that and
 they aren't FeLV kitties.  We do what we can with the resources we
 have.  And we treasure each day we have these wonderful companions.

 Hugs top Murphy and all of you
 Sharyl

 --- On Sat, 7/24/10, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

  From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 7:02 PM
  Terry-thank you for keeping Murphy in
  your thoughts. He has consistently tested
  negative for Hemotropic Mycoplasmas. His Absolute
  Reticulocyte count is now
  35200. Both Murphy and Rosie have been on LTCI injections
  since last September.
  We began treatment before any symptoms appeared and their
  HCT levels were in the
  high 30s, low 40s. I just got the faxes on their blood
  tests. Murphy's HCT is
  22.3, Rosie's is 46.5. I am thinking of giving them another
  injection tomorrow,
  the last one was June 27-it will be 28 days-but the other
  thing is, should I do
  both cats or just Murphy? Is there such a thing as having a
  too high HCT level
  (like Rosie's 46.5)?  Just watching my Murphy sleep
  and hurting because we can't
  stop this train wreck.  Alice
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Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more

2010-07-26 Thread Natalie
The fourth herb is Andrographis. Natalie

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Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 12:27 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more

Alice,

I am so sorry.  I was really hoping the LTCI would do it.  Pet tinic and
epogen and whatever else may help with anemia is usually only a temporary
fix.  The real problem is the underlying bone marrow deficiency due to
infectivity with virus.  I have been with this group long enough to have
hopes for so many different possibilities.  Sometimes they work, sometimes
not.  I know you have too.

I have a long shot.  I requested this for Wolfie too, but want to ask you.
There is a tonic comprised of four herbs.  They are anti-inflammatory, and
for cancer.  A host of secondary positive effects have been noted with its
use including cessation of certain viral infections.  It appears to seek out
and destroy abnormal cells while leaving healthy ones behind.  It also
provides an anti-inflammatory which in many settings can be beneficial.  It
hasn't been used for felv as far as I can tell, but in theory I think it
could help.  If you are interested I can get you the name of the herbs,
where to get them and how to prepare them.  It takes time to do it and
concentrate it so it may take a week before you have the final product.  Let
me know what you think.

The herbs in graviola, neem and chaparral.  The fourth is escaping me right
now, but I can find it.

God bless and I will pray for you.

Jenny


On 7/24/10, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Alice I understand how stressful this is for all of you.  Here is a link
to
 a site that helps explain test results
 Broadway Vet BW Explanations
 http://tinyurl.com/2ex549
 Just click on the item and open the pdf file.  For example it says
 moderately elevated HCT could possibly be a sign of dehydration.

 After fighting anemia with a CRF kitty and several FeLV kitties I
 understand your frustration.  I didn't get alarmed until the HCT fell
below
 20%.  I did use supplements like NutriVed, Super B Complex. B12 and folic
 acid to help them build new red blood cells.

 I rescued a litter of 4 positive 4 week old kittens and lost all 4 of
 them.  Mattie who was blind made it the longest to about 16 months.  I had
 adopted 2 positive kittens from a nearby rescue group and lost them after
 just a few months to FIP.  I had earlier rescued 2 positive kittens, about
4
 month old.  I only have Rocket left.  She is just over 3 now and is
starting
 to show signs of the disease.

 The heartbreak doesn't get any easier.  The thought that keeps me going is
 they had a good life for as long as they were on this earth.  They were
 loved and cared for.  So many wonderful kitties don't even have that and
 they aren't FeLV kitties.  We do what we can with the resources we
 have.  And we treasure each day we have these wonderful companions.

 Hugs top Murphy and all of you
 Sharyl

 --- On Sat, 7/24/10, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

  From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 7:02 PM
  Terry-thank you for keeping Murphy in
  your thoughts. He has consistently tested
  negative for Hemotropic Mycoplasmas. His Absolute
  Reticulocyte count is now
  35200. Both Murphy and Rosie have been on LTCI injections
  since last September.
  We began treatment before any symptoms appeared and their
  HCT levels were in the
  high 30s, low 40s. I just got the faxes on their blood
  tests. Murphy's HCT is
  22.3, Rosie's is 46.5. I am thinking of giving them another
  injection tomorrow,
  the last one was June 27-it will be 28 days-but the other
  thing is, should I do
  both cats or just Murphy? Is there such a thing as having a
  too high HCT level
  (like Rosie's 46.5)?  Just watching my Murphy sleep
  and hurting because we can't
  stop this train wreck.  Alice
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Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more

2010-07-26 Thread jbero tds.net
Thanks Natalie

Jenny


On 7/26/10, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

 The fourth herb is Andrographis. Natalie

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of jbero tds.net
 Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 12:27 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more

 Alice,

 I am so sorry.  I was really hoping the LTCI would do it.  Pet tinic and
 epogen and whatever else may help with anemia is usually only a temporary
 fix.  The real problem is the underlying bone marrow deficiency due to
 infectivity with virus.  I have been with this group long enough to have
 hopes for so many different possibilities.  Sometimes they work, sometimes
 not.  I know you have too.

 I have a long shot.  I requested this for Wolfie too, but want to ask you.
 There is a tonic comprised of four herbs.  They are anti-inflammatory, and
 for cancer.  A host of secondary positive effects have been noted with its
 use including cessation of certain viral infections.  It appears to seek
 out
 and destroy abnormal cells while leaving healthy ones behind.  It also
 provides an anti-inflammatory which in many settings can be beneficial.  It
 hasn't been used for felv as far as I can tell, but in theory I think it
 could help.  If you are interested I can get you the name of the herbs,
 where to get them and how to prepare them.  It takes time to do it and
 concentrate it so it may take a week before you have the final
 product.  Let
 me know what you think.

 The herbs in graviola, neem and chaparral.  The fourth is escaping me right
 now, but I can find it.

 God bless and I will pray for you.

 Jenny


 On 7/24/10, Sharyl cline...@yahoo.com wrote:
 
  Alice I understand how stressful this is for all of you.  Here is a link
 to
  a site that helps explain test results
  Broadway Vet BW Explanations
  http://tinyurl.com/2ex549
  Just click on the item and open the pdf file.  For example it says
  moderately elevated HCT could possibly be a sign of dehydration.
 
  After fighting anemia with a CRF kitty and several FeLV kitties I
  understand your frustration.  I didn't get alarmed until the HCT fell
 below
  20%.  I did use supplements like NutriVed, Super B Complex. B12 and folic
  acid to help them build new red blood cells.
 
  I rescued a litter of 4 positive 4 week old kittens and lost all 4 of
  them.  Mattie who was blind made it the longest to about 16 months.  I
 had
  adopted 2 positive kittens from a nearby rescue group and lost them after
  just a few months to FIP.  I had earlier rescued 2 positive kittens,
 about
 4
  month old.  I only have Rocket left.  She is just over 3 now and is
 starting
  to show signs of the disease.
 
  The heartbreak doesn't get any easier.  The thought that keeps me going
 is
  they had a good life for as long as they were on this earth.  They were
  loved and cared for.  So many wonderful kitties don't even have that and
  they aren't FeLV kitties.  We do what we can with the resources we
  have.  And we treasure each day we have these wonderful companions.
 
  Hugs top Murphy and all of you
  Sharyl
 
  --- On Sat, 7/24/10, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 
   From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
   Date: Saturday, July 24, 2010, 7:02 PM
   Terry-thank you for keeping Murphy in
   your thoughts. He has consistently tested
   negative for Hemotropic Mycoplasmas. His Absolute
   Reticulocyte count is now
   35200. Both Murphy and Rosie have been on LTCI injections
   since last September.
   We began treatment before any symptoms appeared and their
   HCT levels were in the
   high 30s, low 40s. I just got the faxes on their blood
   tests. Murphy's HCT is
   22.3, Rosie's is 46.5. I am thinking of giving them another
   injection tomorrow,
   the last one was June 27-it will be 28 days-but the other
   thing is, should I do
   both cats or just Murphy? Is there such a thing as having a
   too high HCT level
   (like Rosie's 46.5)?  Just watching my Murphy sleep
   and hurting because we can't
   stop this train wreck.  Alice
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Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more-Sources forproducts?

2010-07-25 Thread gary
It is made by Carrington Labs and was being marketed by VPL, but it is no 
longer on their website and a search shows their contract with Carrington 
Labs expired in April.  I am going to call Carrington Labs in the morning 
and see if they have another distributor, I sure hope it is still available. 
It comes in a box containing four 10 mg containers.  The last time my vet 
ordered it, it was $225, that was his cost.  The protocol is 2 mg/KG IP, 
weekly for 6 weeks and then monthly.  The monthly shots can be given sub-q. 
For those unfamiliar with what IP means, it means through the wall of the 
abdomen.


The instructions say you must use it within 4 hours of mixing it, but the 
vet who was the technical assistance person for VPL told me any leftover 
would keep fine in the fridge for a week and for a month in the freezer.


Gary

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Could you describe what the Acemannan (sp?)  is and how it's used? Also 
what are

good sources for this and also pettinic?  Alice
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Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more

2010-07-24 Thread sherrydj88
Oh Alice my heart is sad right along with you.My thoughts and prayers are with 
you all.
Sherry
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

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Subject: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more

Murphy has been sneezing-We took Murphy and Rosie in yesterday for check ups 
and 
blood work. They did an in house PCV on him because his gums were pale. He is 
anemic at 18.5%. This is the beginning of the end. I had hoped that after 
losing 
Rosie's 4 brothers last year that we would get a reprieve. I had hoped that the 
vet's rough rule of 1/3 would apply to us since we began with 6. We had Rosie 
and her 5 brothers-and Murphy, the friendly kitten that was tossed into the 
feral colony that we caught Rosie and the boys from after trapping and 
neutering 
their mother-1/3 of kitties would succumb quickly, 1/3 would die young and 1/3 
generally live fairly uneventful lives for quite a while. Murphy is becoming 
lethargic at times, sometimes stretching out and sleeping on the floor-not his 
usual pose-he is my eagle, if he isn't on the computer desk next to me-curled 
up 
in an envelope box (any box will do-he has even tried to squeeze into a box 
barely big enough for his head-LOL)-he is asleep in the spare room-on top of 
the 
bookcase! He has a talent of springing from the floor and landing in a box on 
top of a 4' cabinet without touching the edges-he is like a little antelope 
with 
his springy legs. Murphy is the king of cats-I have never been owned by such an 
awesome kitty. He is beautiful with his fluffy, tuxedo coat, huge eyes and even 
huger paws-he has 7 toes on his front feet and 6 on the backs. He can snag a 
cat 
toy tossed at him like in mid-air like a baseball player and can even pick up 
things using the extra toes like fingers. I cannot believe this is happening 
again. We have begun Procrit, iron supplement and Doxy for the sneezing/cold 
thing he has going on-his lungs are clear, but a little wheezing in his throat 
area. Wish us luck-I am so sad right now and keep tearing up. I can't take much 
more of this disease, so much loss for all of us.  Alice and Glenn (humans), 
Rosie and Murphy-furkids
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Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more

2010-07-24 Thread gary
I had success reversing anemia in two FeLV positive kittens using Acemannan. 
I can't say it works every time in every situation, but it worked for me on 
those two.


Gary

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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more

Murphy has been sneezing-We took Murphy and Rosie in yesterday for check 
ups and
blood work. They did an in house PCV on him because his gums were pale. He 
is
anemic at 18.5%. This is the beginning of the end. I had hoped that after 
losing
Rosie's 4 brothers last year that we would get a reprieve. I had hoped 
that the
vet's rough rule of 1/3 would apply to us since we began with 6. We had 
Rosie
and her 5 brothers-and Murphy, the friendly kitten that was tossed into 
the
feral colony that we caught Rosie and the boys from after trapping and 
neutering
their mother-1/3 of kitties would succumb quickly, 1/3 would die young and 
1/3
generally live fairly uneventful lives for quite a while. Murphy is 
becoming
lethargic at times, sometimes stretching out and sleeping on the floor-not 
his
usual pose-he is my eagle, if he isn't on the computer desk next to 
me-curled up
in an envelope box (any box will do-he has even tried to squeeze into a 
box
barely big enough for his head-LOL)-he is asleep in the spare room-on top 
of the
bookcase! He has a talent of springing from the floor and landing in a box 
on
top of a 4' cabinet without touching the edges-he is like a little 
antelope with
his springy legs. Murphy is the king of cats-I have never been owned by 
such an
awesome kitty. He is beautiful with his fluffy, tuxedo coat, huge eyes and 
even
huger paws-he has 7 toes on his front feet and 6 on the backs. He can snag 
a cat
toy tossed at him like in mid-air like a baseball player and can even pick 
up
things using the extra toes like fingers. I cannot believe this is 
happening
again. We have begun Procrit, iron supplement and Doxy for the 
sneezing/cold
thing he has going on-his lungs are clear, but a little wheezing in his 
throat
area. Wish us luck-I am so sad right now and keep tearing up. I can't take 
much
more of this disease, so much loss for all of us.  Alice and Glenn 
(humans),

Rosie and Murphy-furkids




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Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more

2010-07-24 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
Mega-vibes for Murphy and hugs to you, Alice and Glenn.

Diane R. 

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Alice Flowers
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 1:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more

Murphy has been sneezing-We took Murphy and Rosie in yesterday for check ups
and blood work. They did an in house PCV on him because his gums were pale.
He is anemic at 18.5%. This is the beginning of the end. I had hoped that
after losing Rosie's 4 brothers last year that we would get a reprieve. I
had hoped that the vet's rough rule of 1/3 would apply to us since we began
with 6. We had Rosie and her 5 brothers-and Murphy, the friendly kitten that
was tossed into the feral colony that we caught Rosie and the boys from
after trapping and neutering their mother-1/3 of kitties would succumb
quickly, 1/3 would die young and 1/3 generally live fairly uneventful lives
for quite a while. Murphy is becoming lethargic at times, sometimes
stretching out and sleeping on the floor-not his usual pose-he is my eagle,
if he isn't on the computer desk next to me-curled up in an envelope box
(any box will do-he has even tried to squeeze into a box barely big enough
for his head-LOL)-he is asleep in the spare room-on top of the bookcase! He
has a talent of springing from the floor and landing in a box on top of a 4'
cabinet without touching the edges-he is like a little antelope with his
springy legs. Murphy is the king of cats-I have never been owned by such an
awesome kitty. He is beautiful with his fluffy, tuxedo coat, huge eyes and
even huger paws-he has 7 toes on his front feet and 6 on the backs. He can
snag a cat toy tossed at him like in mid-air like a baseball player and can
even pick up things using the extra toes like fingers. I cannot believe this
is happening again. We have begun Procrit, iron supplement and Doxy for the
sneezing/cold thing he has going on-his lungs are clear, but a little
wheezing in his throat area. Wish us luck-I am so sad right now and keep
tearing up. I can't take much more of this disease, so much loss for all of
us.  Alice and Glenn (humans), Rosie and Murphy-furkids
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Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more

2010-07-24 Thread Alice Flowers
Terry-thank you for keeping Murphy in your thoughts. He has consistently tested 
negative for Hemotropic Mycoplasmas. His Absolute Reticulocyte count is now 
35200. Both Murphy and Rosie have been on LTCI injections since last September. 
We began treatment before any symptoms appeared and their HCT levels were in 
the 
high 30s, low 40s. I just got the faxes on their blood tests. Murphy's HCT is 
22.3, Rosie's is 46.5. I am thinking of giving them another injection tomorrow, 
the last one was June 27-it will be 28 days-but the other thing is, should I do 
both cats or just Murphy? Is there such a thing as having a too high HCT level 
(like Rosie's 46.5)?  Just watching my Murphy sleep and hurting because we 
can't 
stop this train wreck.  Alice
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Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more

2010-07-24 Thread Natalie
I've used PetTinic for anemia - works well. Natalie

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of gary
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 2:43 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more

I had success reversing anemia in two FeLV positive kittens using Acemannan.

I can't say it works every time in every situation, but it worked for me on 
those two.

Gary

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From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net
Sent: Saturday, July 24, 2010 1:24 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more

 Murphy has been sneezing-We took Murphy and Rosie in yesterday for check 
 ups and
 blood work. They did an in house PCV on him because his gums were pale. He

 is
 anemic at 18.5%. This is the beginning of the end. I had hoped that after 
 losing
 Rosie's 4 brothers last year that we would get a reprieve. I had hoped 
 that the
 vet's rough rule of 1/3 would apply to us since we began with 6. We had 
 Rosie
 and her 5 brothers-and Murphy, the friendly kitten that was tossed into 
 the
 feral colony that we caught Rosie and the boys from after trapping and 
 neutering
 their mother-1/3 of kitties would succumb quickly, 1/3 would die young and

 1/3
 generally live fairly uneventful lives for quite a while. Murphy is 
 becoming
 lethargic at times, sometimes stretching out and sleeping on the floor-not

 his
 usual pose-he is my eagle, if he isn't on the computer desk next to 
 me-curled up
 in an envelope box (any box will do-he has even tried to squeeze into a 
 box
 barely big enough for his head-LOL)-he is asleep in the spare room-on top 
 of the
 bookcase! He has a talent of springing from the floor and landing in a box

 on
 top of a 4' cabinet without touching the edges-he is like a little 
 antelope with
 his springy legs. Murphy is the king of cats-I have never been owned by 
 such an
 awesome kitty. He is beautiful with his fluffy, tuxedo coat, huge eyes and

 even
 huger paws-he has 7 toes on his front feet and 6 on the backs. He can snag

 a cat
 toy tossed at him like in mid-air like a baseball player and can even pick

 up
 things using the extra toes like fingers. I cannot believe this is 
 happening
 again. We have begun Procrit, iron supplement and Doxy for the 
 sneezing/cold
 thing he has going on-his lungs are clear, but a little wheezing in his 
 throat
 area. Wish us luck-I am so sad right now and keep tearing up. I can't take

 much
 more of this disease, so much loss for all of us.  Alice and Glenn 
 (humans),
 Rosie and Murphy-furkids
 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Now it's Murphy-I can't take much more

2010-07-24 Thread trmckelvey
Hi Alice,

What I like about LTCI is it enhances the immune system as opposed to alot of 
medicines which overpower the disease, with possible side effects.  I don't 
see any practical way to overdose LTCI.  I give monthly LTCI shots to my 
healthy FeLV/FIV positives.  I'd probably go to once a week for a few weeks if 
they were showing symptoms like Murphy.  If I understand the dosing schedule, 
the initial period is a build up and the monthly is maintenance.  But if a 
cat gets ill, especially an FeLV positive, their immune systems could use the 
extra help.  If Rosie's blood work hasn't changed, I wouldn't think she would 
need the boost, but if she is having any symptoms, it couldn't hurt.  I'd 
probably do it, but I believe in aggressively addressing any sign of symptoms 
in my Felv/FIV positives.

Terry
 Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote: 

=
Terry-thank you for keeping Murphy in your thoughts. He has consistently tested 
negative for Hemotropic Mycoplasmas. His Absolute Reticulocyte count is now 
35200. Both Murphy and Rosie have been on LTCI injections since last September. 
We began treatment before any symptoms appeared and their HCT levels were in 
the 
high 30s, low 40s. I just got the faxes on their blood tests. Murphy's HCT is 
22.3, Rosie's is 46.5. I am thinking of giving them another injection tomorrow, 
the last one was June 27-it will be 28 days-but the other thing is, should I do 
both cats or just Murphy? Is there such a thing as having a too high HCT level 
(like Rosie's 46.5)?  Just watching my Murphy sleep and hurting because we 
can't 
stop this train wreck.  Alice
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