Re: [Felvtalk] O T

2012-10-09 Thread dlgegg
My problem is that I cannot afford the medicare supplement costs.  Between 
medicare deducted from your SS and medicare part D and supplement, I am going 
to the poor house real fast.  Could not get a cost of living raise in SS fro 2 
years but the congress voted itself a raise of $4000.00 per year because they 
needed it.  Think I will run for congress, they get free everything.


 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 My mother-in-law is in Sweden, at 94 1/2, she lives alone, gets someone
 coming in 6 times a day, bring her 3 meals, help her up, get to bed, etc.
 clean her place.  It costs $200/month.  Yes, they paid into it all their
 lives, but she'll never go bankrupt or be subjected to a horrible place when
 time comes to move to a nursing home.  Father-in-law had a sunny private
 room, great care for $10/day!
 
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 From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 Lorrie
 Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 6:28 AM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T
 
 On 10-04, GRAS wrote:
 Obama ideally wanted single-payer.
 
  Yes, and it is shameful that America, supposedly the greatest county in the
 world, lets it's people go without medical help.
 Every other first world country has single payer.
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] O T

2012-10-07 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
I have health insurance through the state-run high risk pool . It's
relatively expensive and there is a lot it doesn't pay for -- I am currently
paying off $295 for a regular doctor's visit and labs because I have a
pre-existing condition so no visit is EVER just an annual checkup by their
definition (which would have been free). That's in addition to $326 a month
with a $5500 deductible, which is the low income premium. Its major
advantage is on the drug co-pay, and they get you a *little* off your doctor
bills. I have a temp job, 5 paid days off a year, no bennies. I would have
gone under long ago if my housemate weren't extraordinarily generous (and
received a decent inheritance a few years back). I have a friend who has a
number of health issues, including panic disorder, for which she was taking
a number of meds, with meds to counteract the side effects of those meds,
you know how that goes. She had a bad patch, lost her full-time job and
benefits, and was also using this shared-risk insurance. It was increasingly
difficult coming up with the monthly premiums. Several years ago she married
and moved to England, and gets every prescription for under $10 (our money)
and now is making inroads into her panic with a psychologist. She is miles
better off there than she was here. 

Y'all may not all be fans of Michael Moore, but his film Sicko was an
eye-opener. He goes around Europe and finds out that the drugs are cheap,
the doctors aren't greedy, paid sick days and vacations are plentiful and
*mandated* -- much more compassionate than here, where those of us without
paid sick days either get into financial trouble or suck it up and work
sick. He also took a bunch of sick people, many of them first-responders on
9/11, by boat to Gitmo, since the medical care there is supposed to be
great, to demand equal treatment for US citizens as prisoners of war get.
They couldn't land on Gitmo and diverted to Cuba, where each and every
person was evaluated and prescribed meds which were actually better than
they were getting in the States, and those meds cost a fraction of the
price. One woman was going bankrupt at home to pay for her inhaler for her
9/11 lung damage, I think in the states she was charged something like $120,
and in Cuba that inhaler cost something like $5. The thing about health care
is that if the costs can be brought under control, a LOT of our country's
economic and social problems get solved, and the federal government is the
only entity with enough power to do that. The individual states aren't up to
it. 

Diane R.

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Natalie
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 11:21 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T

My mother-in-law is in Sweden, at 94 1/2, she lives alone, gets someone
coming in 6 times a day, bring her 3 meals, help her up, get to bed, etc.
clean her place.  It costs $200/month.  Yes, they paid into it all their
lives, but she'll never go bankrupt or be subjected to a horrible place when
time comes to move to a nursing home.  Father-in-law had a sunny private
room, great care for $10/day!

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From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lorrie
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 6:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T

On 10-04, GRAS wrote:
Obama ideally wanted single-payer.

 Yes, and it is shameful that America, supposedly the greatest county in the
world, lets it's people go without medical help.
Every other first world country has single payer.

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Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES

2012-10-07 Thread Lynda Wilson

Hi ~  just my opinion,

I had always wondered, Why should we believe Snopes.com?  Who is checking 
on them to make sure they are telling the truth and have facts.  I went on 
their site along time ago and there was nothing that convinced me they would 
know anymore than anyone else that knows how to work, or manipulate 
computers.


The bottom line is if anyone ever REALLY wants to know the truth about 
anything said, or on-line, you have to research/investigate it yourself.  IF 
I care enough, that is what I do.  I learned that lesson the hard way many 
years ago..


IF anyone cares enough to go outside of Snopes.com to research the 
information below to see if it is true ~ your choice.  Why would this person 
not be telling the truth anymore than Snopes.com?   My point is why should 
anyone believe Snopes.com.  Who are they  really.and. the truth has 
to be searched for, not provided by a ghost on line.


Just my two cents~

**Read below** (I did not write this, but it sure has me wondering)





SNOPES NO MORE - A MUST READ



I HOPE THIS OPENS EYES AND MINDS.


I HAVE FORWARDED SOMETHING AND SOMEONE WOULD
WRITE ME BACK AND SAY SNOPES SAID IT WAS FALSE.

   Many of the emails that I have sent or forwarded that had any
anti-Obama in it were negated by Snopes.
I thought that was odd. Check this out.

   Snopes, Soros and the Supreme Court’s Kagan.

   We-l-l-l-l now, I guess the time has come to check out Snopes!

   Ya' don't suppose it might not be a good time to take a second look
at some of the stuff that got kicked in the ditch by Snopes, do ya'?

   We've known that it was owned by a lefty couple,
but hadn't known it to be financed by Soros!

   Snopes is heavily financed by George Soros;
a big time supporter of Obama!

   In our Search for the Truth department,
we find what I have suspected on many occasions.

   I went to Snopes to check something about the dockets of the new
Supreme Court Justice, Elena Kagan who Obama appointed
and Snopes said the email was false and there were no such
dockets so I Googled the Supreme Court, typed in Obama-Kagan,
and guess what?

   Yep, you got it; Snopes Lied!

Everyone of those dockets are there.

   So Here is what I wrote to Snopes:

   Referencing the article about Elena Kagan and Barack Obama dockets:

  The information you have posted stating that there were no such cases
as claimed and the examples you gave are blatantly false.

  I went directly to the Supreme Courts website, typed in Obama Kagan
and immediately came up with all of the dockets that the article made
reference to.

   I have long suspected that you really slant things but this was 
really shocking.


   Thank You! I hope you will be much more truthful in the future, but 
I doubt it.


   That being said, I’ll bet you didn't know this:

   Kagan was representing Obama in all the petitions to prove his 
citizenship.


   Now she may help rule on them.

Folks, this is really ugly. Chicago Politics; and the beat goes on and on 
and on.

Once again the US Senate sold us out!

   Now we know why Obama nominated Elena Kagan for the Supreme Court.

Pull up the Supreme Courts website, go to the docket and search for Obama.

She was the Solicitor General for all the suits against him filed with the
Supreme Court to show proof of natural born citizenship.

He owed her big time.

All of the requests were denied of course. They were never heard.

It just keeps getting deeper and deeper, doesn't it?

The American people mean nothing any longer.

It's all about payback time for those who compromised themselves
to elect someone who really has no true right to even be there.

Here are some websites of the Supreme Court Docket:

You can look up some of these hearings and guess what?

Elena Kagan is the attorney representing Obama!

Check out these examples:


http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-8857.htm


http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-6790.htm


http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-724.htm


If you are not interested in justice or in truth, simply delete.


However, if you hold sacred the freedoms granted to you by the U.S. 
Constitution;



by all means, PASS it ON!

There truly is tyranny afoot.

Valerie Barnes
Office Manager/Bookkeeper
G.W. Bulluck Elementary School


(252)985.3456

 (252)442.2370 fax




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Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES

2012-10-07 Thread Diane Rosenfeldt
OK, so it appears the main thrust of this forwarded post isObama is not a 
US citizen. Really Still IMNSHO, there are people who would do ANYTHING 
to de-legitimize the fact that there is a black man in the White House. 
Ridiculous. The one true fact about the internet is that anybody can find 
validation for ANY wackadoo opinion. I bet you could find a scientific study 
affirming that cats are descended from dogs and that birds are the result of 
magic. 

There is a refutation of this forwarded stuff (which has been around since 
2008, BTW) on About.com: 
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/internet/a/snopes_exposed.htm
I'm sure you could find a refutation and charges of bias about About.com if you 
wanted to. The bottom line is, vote who you want to, but make *yourself* aware 
of the character of your candidate. Watch the person over a period of time; 
does he contradict himself from one week to the next? Does he promise more than 
he can deliver? Does he give details about his plans? Does he keep the promises 
he has made in the past? By these criteria, there's nobody in politics who 
truly stands up 100% to scrutiny. But unlike in horseshoes, in politics close 
does count. Have these people made an effort to act on the things they say they 
believe in? And are those beliefs based on the good of every single person in 
the United States, not just a select group?  These are things each person has 
to decide for him- or herself.

2 more cents,

Diane R.
-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda 
Wilson
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 10:19 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES

Hi ~  just my opinion,

I had always wondered, Why should we believe Snopes.com?  Who is checking on 
them to make sure they are telling the truth and have facts.  I went on their 
site along time ago and there was nothing that convinced me they would know 
anymore than anyone else that knows how to work, or manipulate computers.

The bottom line is if anyone ever REALLY wants to know the truth about anything 
said, or on-line, you have to research/investigate it yourself.  IF I care 
enough, that is what I do.  I learned that lesson the hard way many years ago..

IF anyone cares enough to go outside of Snopes.com to research the information 
below to see if it is true ~ your choice.  Why would this person 
not be telling the truth anymore than Snopes.com?   My point is why should 
anyone believe Snopes.com.  Who are they  really.and. the truth has to 
be searched for, not provided by a ghost on line.

Just my two cents~

**Read below** (I did not write this, but it sure has me wondering)





SNOPES NO MORE - A MUST READ



I HOPE THIS OPENS EYES AND MINDS.


I HAVE FORWARDED SOMETHING AND SOMEONE WOULD WRITE ME BACK AND SAY SNOPES SAID 
IT WAS FALSE.

Many of the emails that I have sent or forwarded that had any 
anti-Obama in it were negated by Snopes.
I thought that was odd. Check this out.

Snopes, Soros and the Supreme Court’s Kagan.

We-l-l-l-l now, I guess the time has come to check out Snopes!

Ya' don't suppose it might not be a good time to take a second look at 
some of the stuff that got kicked in the ditch by Snopes, do ya'?

We've known that it was owned by a lefty couple, but hadn't known it to 
be financed by Soros!

Snopes is heavily financed by George Soros; a big time supporter of 
Obama!

In our Search for the Truth department, we find what I have suspected 
on many occasions.

I went to Snopes to check something about the dockets of the new 
Supreme Court Justice, Elena Kagan who Obama appointed and Snopes said the 
email was false and there were no such dockets so I Googled the Supreme Court, 
typed in Obama-Kagan, and guess what?

Yep, you got it; Snopes Lied!

Everyone of those dockets are there.

So Here is what I wrote to Snopes:

Referencing the article about Elena Kagan and Barack Obama dockets:

   The information you have posted stating that there were no such cases as 
claimed and the examples you gave are blatantly false.

   I went directly to the Supreme Courts website, typed in Obama Kagan and 
immediately came up with all of the dockets that the article made reference to.

I have long suspected that you really slant things but this was really 
shocking.

Thank You! I hope you will be much more truthful in the future, but I 
doubt it.

That being said, I’ll bet you didn't know this:

Kagan was representing Obama in all the petitions to prove his 
citizenship.

Now she may help rule on them.

Folks, this is really ugly. Chicago Politics; and the beat goes on and on and 
on.
Once again the US Senate sold us out!

Now we know why Obama nominated Elena Kagan for the Supreme Court.

Pull up the Supreme Courts website, go to the docket and search

Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES

2012-10-07 Thread Christiane Biagi
Most of the time, snopes puts links to their sources.  I ALWAYS go to those to 
look for myself.  Haven't found Snopes to be wrong but then I never say 
never...lol

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda 
Wilson
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 11:19 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES

Hi ~  just my opinion,

I had always wondered, Why should we believe Snopes.com?  Who is checking on 
them to make sure they are telling the truth and have facts.  I went on their 
site along time ago and there was nothing that convinced me they would know 
anymore than anyone else that knows how to work, or manipulate computers.

The bottom line is if anyone ever REALLY wants to know the truth about anything 
said, or on-line, you have to research/investigate it yourself.  IF I care 
enough, that is what I do.  I learned that lesson the hard way many years ago..

IF anyone cares enough to go outside of Snopes.com to research the information 
below to see if it is true ~ your choice.  Why would this person 
not be telling the truth anymore than Snopes.com?   My point is why should 
anyone believe Snopes.com.  Who are they  really.and. the truth has to 
be searched for, not provided by a ghost on line.

Just my two cents~

**Read below** (I did not write this, but it sure has me wondering)





SNOPES NO MORE - A MUST READ



I HOPE THIS OPENS EYES AND MINDS.


I HAVE FORWARDED SOMETHING AND SOMEONE WOULD WRITE ME BACK AND SAY SNOPES SAID 
IT WAS FALSE.

Many of the emails that I have sent or forwarded that had any 
anti-Obama in it were negated by Snopes.
I thought that was odd. Check this out.

Snopes, Soros and the Supreme Court’s Kagan.

We-l-l-l-l now, I guess the time has come to check out Snopes!

Ya' don't suppose it might not be a good time to take a second look at 
some of the stuff that got kicked in the ditch by Snopes, do ya'?

We've known that it was owned by a lefty couple, but hadn't known it to 
be financed by Soros!

Snopes is heavily financed by George Soros; a big time supporter of 
Obama!

In our Search for the Truth department, we find what I have suspected 
on many occasions.

I went to Snopes to check something about the dockets of the new 
Supreme Court Justice, Elena Kagan who Obama appointed and Snopes said the 
email was false and there were no such dockets so I Googled the Supreme Court, 
typed in Obama-Kagan, and guess what?

Yep, you got it; Snopes Lied!

Everyone of those dockets are there.

So Here is what I wrote to Snopes:

Referencing the article about Elena Kagan and Barack Obama dockets:

   The information you have posted stating that there were no such cases as 
claimed and the examples you gave are blatantly false.

   I went directly to the Supreme Courts website, typed in Obama Kagan and 
immediately came up with all of the dockets that the article made reference to.

I have long suspected that you really slant things but this was really 
shocking.

Thank You! I hope you will be much more truthful in the future, but I 
doubt it.

That being said, I’ll bet you didn't know this:

Kagan was representing Obama in all the petitions to prove his 
citizenship.

Now she may help rule on them.

Folks, this is really ugly. Chicago Politics; and the beat goes on and on and 
on.
Once again the US Senate sold us out!

Now we know why Obama nominated Elena Kagan for the Supreme Court.

Pull up the Supreme Courts website, go to the docket and search for Obama.

She was the Solicitor General for all the suits against him filed with the 
Supreme Court to show proof of natural born citizenship.

He owed her big time.

All of the requests were denied of course. They were never heard.

It just keeps getting deeper and deeper, doesn't it?

The American people mean nothing any longer.

It's all about payback time for those who compromised themselves to elect 
someone who really has no true right to even be there.

Here are some websites of the Supreme Court Docket:

You can look up some of these hearings and guess what?

Elena Kagan is the attorney representing Obama!

Check out these examples:


http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-8857.htm


http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-6790.htm


http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-724.htm


If you are not interested in justice or in truth, simply delete.


However, if you hold sacred the freedoms granted to you by the U.S. 
Constitution;


by all means, PASS it ON!

There truly is tyranny afoot.

 Valerie Barnes
 Office Manager/Bookkeeper
 G.W. Bulluck Elementary School


(252)985.3456

  (252)442.2370 fax

Re: [Felvtalk] O T

2012-10-07 Thread Christiane Biagi
This week, my sweetest, mushiest cat bit me- and I ended up in er a couple
of times  had an overnight in the hospital to be pumped full of iv
antibiotics.  I have ins but let say someone had the same thing happen
without insurance.  They would have been admitted (considered life
threatening)  then I would have had to pay for part of it out of my taxes
for Medicaid. Wouldn't it be better if we had a system where everybody could
get affordable health insurance--everybody I know who doesn't have insurance
doesn't have it cause they can't find a low cost plan (I'm in NY).  

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Diane Rosenfeldt
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 11:08 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T

I have health insurance through the state-run high risk pool . It's
relatively expensive and there is a lot it doesn't pay for -- I am currently
paying off $295 for a regular doctor's visit and labs because I have a
pre-existing condition so no visit is EVER just an annual checkup by their
definition (which would have been free). That's in addition to $326 a month
with a $5500 deductible, which is the low income premium. Its major
advantage is on the drug co-pay, and they get you a *little* off your doctor
bills. I have a temp job, 5 paid days off a year, no bennies. I would have
gone under long ago if my housemate weren't extraordinarily generous (and
received a decent inheritance a few years back). I have a friend who has a
number of health issues, including panic disorder, for which she was taking
a number of meds, with meds to counteract the side effects of those meds,
you know how that goes. She had a bad patch, lost her full-time job and
benefits, and was also using this shared-risk insurance. It was increasingly
difficult coming up with the monthly premiums. Several years ago she married
and moved to England, and gets every prescription for under $10 (our money)
and now is making inroads into her panic with a psychologist. She is miles
better off there than she was here. 

Y'all may not all be fans of Michael Moore, but his film Sicko was an
eye-opener. He goes around Europe and finds out that the drugs are cheap,
the doctors aren't greedy, paid sick days and vacations are plentiful and
*mandated* -- much more compassionate than here, where those of us without
paid sick days either get into financial trouble or suck it up and work
sick. He also took a bunch of sick people, many of them first-responders on
9/11, by boat to Gitmo, since the medical care there is supposed to be
great, to demand equal treatment for US citizens as prisoners of war get.
They couldn't land on Gitmo and diverted to Cuba, where each and every
person was evaluated and prescribed meds which were actually better than
they were getting in the States, and those meds cost a fraction of the
price. One woman was going bankrupt at home to pay for her inhaler for her
9/11 lung damage, I think in the states she was charged something like $120,
and in Cuba that inhaler cost something like $5. The thing about health care
is that if the costs can be brought under control, a LOT of our country's
economic and social problems get solved, and the federal government is the
only entity with enough power to do that. The individual states aren't up to
it. 

Diane R.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Natalie
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 11:21 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T

My mother-in-law is in Sweden, at 94 1/2, she lives alone, gets someone
coming in 6 times a day, bring her 3 meals, help her up, get to bed, etc.
clean her place.  It costs $200/month.  Yes, they paid into it all their
lives, but she'll never go bankrupt or be subjected to a horrible place when
time comes to move to a nursing home.  Father-in-law had a sunny private
room, great care for $10/day!

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lorrie
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 6:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T

On 10-04, GRAS wrote:
Obama ideally wanted single-payer.

 Yes, and it is shameful that America, supposedly the greatest county in the
world, lets it's people go without medical help.
Every other first world country has single payer.

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Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES

2012-10-07 Thread longhornfans
I did not say I agree with the links, it was just an example of people using 
snopes to declare whether or not something is true or false. And just for the 
record I am not prejudice (I know I'm not be accused ot this, I just want to 
point this out). I have many friends from all ethnicities. 
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
Sender: Felvtalk felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 11:23:29 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES

OK, so it appears the main thrust of this forwarded post isObama is not a 
US citizen. Really Still IMNSHO, there are people who would do ANYTHING 
to de-legitimize the fact that there is a black man in the White House. 
Ridiculous. The one true fact about the internet is that anybody can find 
validation for ANY wackadoo opinion. I bet you could find a scientific study 
affirming that cats are descended from dogs and that birds are the result of 
magic. 

There is a refutation of this forwarded stuff (which has been around since 
2008, BTW) on About.com: 
http://urbanlegends.about.com/od/internet/a/snopes_exposed.htm
I'm sure you could find a refutation and charges of bias about About.com if you 
wanted to. The bottom line is, vote who you want to, but make *yourself* aware 
of the character of your candidate. Watch the person over a period of time; 
does he contradict himself from one week to the next? Does he promise more than 
he can deliver? Does he give details about his plans? Does he keep the promises 
he has made in the past? By these criteria, there's nobody in politics who 
truly stands up 100% to scrutiny. But unlike in horseshoes, in politics close 
does count. Have these people made an effort to act on the things they say they 
believe in? And are those beliefs based on the good of every single person in 
the United States, not just a select group?  These are things each person has 
to decide for him- or herself.

2 more cents,

Diane R.
-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda 
Wilson
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 10:19 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES

Hi ~  just my opinion,

I had always wondered, Why should we believe Snopes.com?  Who is checking on 
them to make sure they are telling the truth and have facts.  I went on their 
site along time ago and there was nothing that convinced me they would know 
anymore than anyone else that knows how to work, or manipulate computers.

The bottom line is if anyone ever REALLY wants to know the truth about anything 
said, or on-line, you have to research/investigate it yourself.  IF I care 
enough, that is what I do.  I learned that lesson the hard way many years ago..

IF anyone cares enough to go outside of Snopes.com to research the information 
below to see if it is true ~ your choice.  Why would this person 
not be telling the truth anymore than Snopes.com?   My point is why should 
anyone believe Snopes.com.  Who are they  really.and. the truth has to 
be searched for, not provided by a ghost on line.

Just my two cents~

**Read below** (I did not write this, but it sure has me wondering)





SNOPES NO MORE - A MUST READ



I HOPE THIS OPENS EYES AND MINDS.


I HAVE FORWARDED SOMETHING AND SOMEONE WOULD WRITE ME BACK AND SAY SNOPES SAID 
IT WAS FALSE.

Many of the emails that I have sent or forwarded that had any 
anti-Obama in it were negated by Snopes.
I thought that was odd. Check this out.

Snopes, Soros and the Supreme Court’s Kagan.

We-l-l-l-l now, I guess the time has come to check out Snopes!

Ya' don't suppose it might not be a good time to take a second look at 
some of the stuff that got kicked in the ditch by Snopes, do ya'?

We've known that it was owned by a lefty couple, but hadn't known it to 
be financed by Soros!

Snopes is heavily financed by George Soros; a big time supporter of 
Obama!

In our Search for the Truth department, we find what I have suspected 
on many occasions.

I went to Snopes to check something about the dockets of the new 
Supreme Court Justice, Elena Kagan who Obama appointed and Snopes said the 
email was false and there were no such dockets so I Googled the Supreme Court, 
typed in Obama-Kagan, and guess what?

Yep, you got it; Snopes Lied!

Everyone of those dockets are there.

So Here is what I wrote to Snopes:

Referencing the article about Elena Kagan and Barack Obama dockets:

   The information you have posted stating that there were no such cases as 
claimed and the examples you gave are blatantly false.

   I went directly to the Supreme Courts website, typed in Obama Kagan and 
immediately came up with all of the dockets that the article made reference to.

I have long suspected

Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES

2012-10-07 Thread longhornfans
Glad you got the point of my post..
Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile

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From: Christiane Biagi ti...@mindspring.com
Sender: Felvtalk felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Sun, 07 Oct 2012 12:29:18 
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Reply-to: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES

Most of the time, snopes puts links to their sources.  I ALWAYS go to those to 
look for myself.  Haven't found Snopes to be wrong but then I never say 
never...lol

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Lynda 
Wilson
Sent: Sunday, October 07, 2012 11:19 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T - SNOPES

Hi ~  just my opinion,

I had always wondered, Why should we believe Snopes.com?  Who is checking on 
them to make sure they are telling the truth and have facts.  I went on their 
site along time ago and there was nothing that convinced me they would know 
anymore than anyone else that knows how to work, or manipulate computers.

The bottom line is if anyone ever REALLY wants to know the truth about anything 
said, or on-line, you have to research/investigate it yourself.  IF I care 
enough, that is what I do.  I learned that lesson the hard way many years ago..

IF anyone cares enough to go outside of Snopes.com to research the information 
below to see if it is true ~ your choice.  Why would this person 
not be telling the truth anymore than Snopes.com?   My point is why should 
anyone believe Snopes.com.  Who are they  really.and. the truth has to 
be searched for, not provided by a ghost on line.

Just my two cents~

**Read below** (I did not write this, but it sure has me wondering)





SNOPES NO MORE - A MUST READ



I HOPE THIS OPENS EYES AND MINDS.


I HAVE FORWARDED SOMETHING AND SOMEONE WOULD WRITE ME BACK AND SAY SNOPES SAID 
IT WAS FALSE.

Many of the emails that I have sent or forwarded that had any 
anti-Obama in it were negated by Snopes.
I thought that was odd. Check this out.

Snopes, Soros and the Supreme Court’s Kagan.

We-l-l-l-l now, I guess the time has come to check out Snopes!

Ya' don't suppose it might not be a good time to take a second look at 
some of the stuff that got kicked in the ditch by Snopes, do ya'?

We've known that it was owned by a lefty couple, but hadn't known it to 
be financed by Soros!

Snopes is heavily financed by George Soros; a big time supporter of 
Obama!

In our Search for the Truth department, we find what I have suspected 
on many occasions.

I went to Snopes to check something about the dockets of the new 
Supreme Court Justice, Elena Kagan who Obama appointed and Snopes said the 
email was false and there were no such dockets so I Googled the Supreme Court, 
typed in Obama-Kagan, and guess what?

Yep, you got it; Snopes Lied!

Everyone of those dockets are there.

So Here is what I wrote to Snopes:

Referencing the article about Elena Kagan and Barack Obama dockets:

   The information you have posted stating that there were no such cases as 
claimed and the examples you gave are blatantly false.

   I went directly to the Supreme Courts website, typed in Obama Kagan and 
immediately came up with all of the dockets that the article made reference to.

I have long suspected that you really slant things but this was really 
shocking.

Thank You! I hope you will be much more truthful in the future, but I 
doubt it.

That being said, I’ll bet you didn't know this:

Kagan was representing Obama in all the petitions to prove his 
citizenship.

Now she may help rule on them.

Folks, this is really ugly. Chicago Politics; and the beat goes on and on and 
on.
Once again the US Senate sold us out!

Now we know why Obama nominated Elena Kagan for the Supreme Court.

Pull up the Supreme Courts website, go to the docket and search for Obama.

She was the Solicitor General for all the suits against him filed with the 
Supreme Court to show proof of natural born citizenship.

He owed her big time.

All of the requests were denied of course. They were never heard.

It just keeps getting deeper and deeper, doesn't it?

The American people mean nothing any longer.

It's all about payback time for those who compromised themselves to elect 
someone who really has no true right to even be there.

Here are some websites of the Supreme Court Docket:

You can look up some of these hearings and guess what?

Elena Kagan is the attorney representing Obama!

Check out these examples:


http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-8857.htm


http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-6790.htm


http://www.supremecourt.gov/Search.aspx?FileName=/docketfiles/09-724.htm


If you are not interested in justice or in truth, simply delete.


However, if you hold sacred the freedoms

Re: [Felvtalk] O T

2012-10-07 Thread Lee Evans
Long ago, around 1985, just after my dad passed away, I had a minor health 
issue and a lot of health worries.  At that time I had insurance through Met 
Life because I was self employed.  Unfortunately, the insurance (always read 
the fine print) did not cover a basic glucose tolerance test, a thyroid test, 
or a Pap smear.  It did cover a broken bone, various sprains and other 
injuries.  The problem was I was afraid of adult onset diabetes since my dad's 
entire family had it and one brother died at age 50 when he went into a 
diabetic coma.  I had to spend a whole lot of money to get the tests I needed.  
Fortunately, no diabetes.  I do have hypoglycemia and that was what was making 
me woozy and unsettled.  But it cost me over a thousand dollars to find this 
out.  Mom said not to cancel the Met Life policy because I drive and she was 
afraid I would have an accident and tremendous health cost to get patched up 
and glued together.  Well, every 6
 months they raised the premium until I was paying over $1,000 every six 
months. I cancelled and did not have health coverage until recently when I 
became eligible for Medicare. This is why small businesses fail, in my opinion, 
because people are looking for jobs that give benefits and health insurance 
coverage and small businesses just can't afford to insure two or three 
workers.  This also effects the care of our rescued cats and dogs.  If we are 
paying thousands of dollars for our own health insurance or issues we can't 
usually afford to give them the treatments they need, the yearly physical exams 
to catch issues like beginning renal problems, elevated glucose, etc..  Then in 
a year or two it becomes a major veterinary expense because the problem has 
gotten worse.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Diane Rosenfeldt drosenfe...@wi.rr.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Sunday, October 7, 2012 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T
 
I have health insurance through the state-run high risk pool . It's
relatively expensive and there is a lot it doesn't pay for -- I am currently
paying off $295 for a regular doctor's visit and labs because I have a
pre-existing condition so no visit is EVER just an annual checkup by their
definition (which would have been free). That's in addition to $326 a month
with a $5500 deductible, which is the low income premium. Its major
advantage is on the drug co-pay, and they get you a *little* off your doctor
bills. I have a temp job, 5 paid days off a year, no bennies. I would have
gone under long ago if my housemate weren't extraordinarily generous (and
received a decent inheritance a few years back). I have a friend who has a
number of health issues, including panic disorder, for which she was taking
a number of meds, with meds to counteract the side effects of those meds,
you know how that goes. She had a bad patch, lost her full-time job and
benefits, and was also using this shared-risk insurance. It was increasingly
difficult coming up with the monthly premiums. Several years ago she married
and moved to England, and gets every prescription for under $10 (our money)
and now is making inroads into her panic with a psychologist. She is miles
better off there than she was here. 

Y'all may not all be fans of Michael Moore, but his film Sicko was an
eye-opener. He goes around Europe and finds out that the drugs are cheap,
the doctors aren't greedy, paid sick days and vacations are plentiful and
*mandated* -- much more compassionate than here, where those of us without
paid sick days either get into financial trouble or suck it up and work
sick. He also took a bunch of sick people, many of them first-responders on
9/11, by boat to Gitmo, since the medical care there is supposed to be
great, to demand equal treatment for US citizens as prisoners of war get.
They couldn't land on Gitmo and diverted to Cuba, where each and every
person was evaluated and prescribed meds which were actually better than
they were getting in the States, and those meds cost a fraction of the
price. One woman was going bankrupt at home to pay for her inhaler for her
9/11 lung damage, I think in the states she was charged something like $120,
and in Cuba that inhaler cost something like $5. The thing about health care
is that if the costs can be brought under control, a LOT of our country's
economic and social problems get solved, and the federal government is the
only entity with enough power to do that. The individual states aren't up to
it. 

Diane R.

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Natalie
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 11:21 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T

My mother-in-law is in Sweden, at 94 1/2, she lives alone, gets someone
coming in 6 times a day, bring her 3 meals, help her up, get to bed, etc.
clean her place.  It costs $200/month

Re: [Felvtalk] O T

2012-10-07 Thread Lorrie
How wonderful for them. It should be the same
way in America the Ungreat!! 

On 10-06, Natalie wrote:
 My mother-in-law is in Sweden, at 94 1/2, she lives alone, gets someone
 coming in 6 times a day, bring her 3 meals, help her up, get to bed, etc.
 clean her place.  It costs $200/month.  Yes, they paid into it all their
 lives, but she'll never go bankrupt or be subjected to a horrible place when
 time comes to move to a nursing home.  Father-in-law had a sunny private
 room, great care for $10/day!
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] O T

2012-10-06 Thread Lorrie
On 10-04, GRAS wrote:
Obama ideally wanted single-payer.

 Yes, and it is shameful that America, supposedly the greatest
county in the world, lets it's people go without medical help.
Every other first world country has single payer.

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Re: [Felvtalk] O T Just don't read this if it upsets u.

2012-10-06 Thread Marcia Baronda
AMEN LEE!!!

Sent from my iPad that my most awesome kids surprised me with, Christmas 2010. 

On Oct 6, 2012, at 5:30 AM, Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote:

 WELL SAID LEE, AND EVERY WORD YOU WROTE IS THE TRUTH.
 
 On 10-04, Lee Evans wrote:
   I agree that neither candidate can make animal rights/welfare a major
   issue in this election and I also agree that the economy is the major
   issue that impacts our rescues and other people's companion animals the
   most.  Then I look at the incumbent and see a man who was trussed up
   like a chicken about to go into the rotisserie and I see who did the
   trussing up, the Republican Senate.  I look at who started the
   sub-prime mortgage mess that led to so many people losing their homes
   and I see a Republican President allowing banks and stock brokers and
   CEO's of investment companies to have free rein to grab the money and
   run.  I see an ineffectual congress trying to get a fair tax program
   wherein people earning over a quarter of a million dollars a  year
   would pay their fair share of taxes to run the country.  Then I see
   Republicans putting up road blocks by saying that businesses would have
   to shut down if taxes were raised.  Who the heck ever mentioned
   businesses?  The problem is INDIVIDUALS who are rolling in money. I see
   Republicans coming in with smoke and mirrors and clouding the issue,
   confusing people into thinking that the tax hike would be on
   businesses.  I see a ridiculous-on-both sides health care plan with
   over a thousand pages of gibberish regulations.  What's wrong with just
   extending Medicare and Medicaid to everyone?  What's the problem with
   not re-inventing the wheel and adopting the Canadian health care
   model?  Then my friends tell me that we need a business man with a good
   sense of the economy to run the country.  And I say, these are the same
   people who ran the country off a cliff for 8 years.  I don't think I
   want them in the drivers seat again.  Just my opinion.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] O T

2012-10-06 Thread Natalie
My mother-in-law is in Sweden, at 94 1/2, she lives alone, gets someone
coming in 6 times a day, bring her 3 meals, help her up, get to bed, etc.
clean her place.  It costs $200/month.  Yes, they paid into it all their
lives, but she'll never go bankrupt or be subjected to a horrible place when
time comes to move to a nursing home.  Father-in-law had a sunny private
room, great care for $10/day!

-Original Message-
From: Felvtalk [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
Lorrie
Sent: Saturday, October 06, 2012 6:28 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] O T

On 10-04, GRAS wrote:
Obama ideally wanted single-payer.

 Yes, and it is shameful that America, supposedly the greatest county in the
world, lets it's people go without medical help.
Every other first world country has single payer.

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