Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-07-01 Thread Lee Evans


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!




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Convenia is an excellent long term antibiotic that tends to help chronic 
conditions like stomatitis and chronic diarrhea because it keeps the bacteria 
down and gives the cat's own immune system a little rest with the continuing 
battle. That increases the immune system's strength. Also, try giving liquid 
vitamin such as Nutraved with iron and B vitamins. With all chronic 
conditions, it's very important to keep stress out of the lives of the cats. 
Yelling, anger, grief, any negative emotions that are present in the household 
will take a toll on a cat's emotions also. They are very sensitive. That's why 
a harsh no! will send most of them scurrying under the nearest furniture.



 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-07-01 Thread dlgegg
Thank you.  Casey seems to be better.  Am continuing to monitor the 7 boxes 
just in case so I can get to the vet if necessary.


 Lee Evans moonsiste...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 

 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
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Convenia is an excellent long term antibiotic that tends to help chronic 
conditions like stomatitis and chronic diarrhea because it keeps the bacteria 
down and gives the cat's own immune system a little rest with the continuing 
battle. That increases the immune system's strength. Also, try giving liquid 
vitamin such as Nutraved with iron and B vitamins. With all chronic 
conditions, it's very important to keep stress out of the lives of the cats. 
Yelling, anger, grief, any negative emotions that are present in the household 
will take a toll on a cat's emotions also. They are very sensitive. That's why 
a harsh no! will send most of them scurrying under the nearest furniture.



 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty 
neighbors too!










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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-29 Thread dlgegg

SHE ALSO GETS GREENIES DENTAL TREATS AND HAIRBALL STUFF.

 Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: 
 
 
   Just to start with the simplest first, what is Casey eating?
 
 Margo
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Jun 26, 2013 11:30 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts
 
 My problem isn't URI but on and off diarrhea.  Casey is 15 and most of the 5 
 years I have had her, she has had this problem.  It goes away for 6 months 
 and then comes back again.  The vet didn't find parasites in her stool, but 
 did find a bacterial thing.  He gave her a shot of Covina  and we brought 
 home Orbax to give her orally.  It seems to have quieted down a bit and is 
 no longer full blown diahhrea, but not really formed stools.  Any one have 
 any suggestions.  we are at our wits end.  Nothing we do seems to stop it 
 for good.  I don't know her background as she came from a rescuer who passed 
 suddenly and her 23 cats were taken to Pals, a no kill rescue.  All were 
 adopted but Casey and Lil Bit who were 9 years old then.  They were strays 
 when the rescuer got them.  We have used Covenia before for Homie and Lil 
 Bit and so far no one has had a bad reaction.  
 
 
  Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: 
  Margo,
  
  That's a very good point to make about Convenia. My vet was very reluctant 
  to use it on Ember because it stays around so long. It ended up happening 
  anyway (I was out of state, and my dad was panicking about a URI Ember was 
  dealing with). Fortunately, she had no problems tolerating it.
  
  There's a lot of info online about Convenia. Some people avoid it, but I 
  would use it on Ember again, knowing that she did well on it.
  
  Lance
  
  On Jun 26, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:
  
   
Two drawbacks for Convenia. If the cat reacts badly, there's no way to 
   discontinue the drug, it's in the system for two weeks (more or less). 
   Two, it is generally prescribed for skin infections, and sometimes 
   FLUTD. Doesn't seem to be considered effective for secondary bacterial 
   infections often concurrent with a URI. In most common URIs , only an 
   anti-viral will actually affect the primary disease. Clavamox, 
   clindamycin, baytril, and sometimes doxycycline can help with the 
   possible bacterial component(s).

 I used Naxcel and Zenequin for Gribble when he 
   was so ill, but I don't really know if it helped, or he got better in 
   spite of my efforts. Famciclovir seemed very helpful with both my boys 
   recently, but there's no literature on using it with an FeLV positive 
   cat, and it's basically only effective against herpes.

   HTH

   Margo

 
   -Original Message- 
   From: ance 
   Sent: Jun 26, 2013 11:45 AM 
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts 
   
   I'm glad that Polli has your boyfriend. I really feel that love (which 
   is, in a way, the flipside of stress) helps fight the disease and gives 
   cats a reason to fight and live. I wonder if Convenia would help the URI 
   (it's just another abx). I've only used it once, so I can't vouch for it 
   too much, but it seemed ot help. Maybe another vet would be more willing 
   to try something different. 

   You and Polli are in my thoughts and prayers.

   Lance


   On Wed, Jun 26, 2013, at 01:02 AM, Amanda K. Payne wrote:
   Thank you everyone!!  As you can imagine, I'm a wreck over it.  I'm 
   also housesitting at the moment and can't be with her at night.  Though 
   she's with my boyfriend who loves her dearly, I feel awful that I'm not 
   there to comfort her. Over the last ten years, I've had my cats die 
   from FeLV, FIP and now Polli is also deathly ill with FeLV.  None of 
   the cats ever met one another but it seems I'm a sucker for sick 
   kitties. The cats I rescue and I just can't seem to catch a break.  


   Lance, I haven't had the vet give her a transfusion.  The vet we went 
   to (whom I don't care for) diagnosed her with non regenerative anemia 
   back in March.  FeLV is wreaking havoc on her bone marrow and it's just 
   not producing enough red and white blood cells.  A transfusion would 
   maybe give her a few more weeks, if that. 

   Margo, I'm not sure if there is anything I can do.  She was doing okay 
   before I brought home a nasty URI (I volunteer with several rescues and 
   must have somehow exposed her to it).  She of course caught it.  I gave 
   her Clavamox for two days before she just crashed. The Clavamox caused 
   her to poo herself for hours on end and she deteriorated after that.  I 
   took her off Clavamox and decided to look for a better vet.  My vet 
   doesn't seem interested in helping what she thinks is a lost cause.

   Watching her get sick just makes me

Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-27 Thread Margo


  Just to start with the simplest first, what is Casey eating?

Margo


-Original Message-
From: dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Jun 26, 2013 11:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

My problem isn't URI but on and off diarrhea.  Casey is 15 and most of the 5 
years I have had her, she has had this problem.  It goes away for 6 months and 
then comes back again.  The vet didn't find parasites in her stool, but did 
find a bacterial thing.  He gave her a shot of Covina  and we brought home 
Orbax to give her orally.  It seems to have quieted down a bit and is no 
longer full blown diahhrea, but not really formed stools.  Any one have any 
suggestions.  we are at our wits end.  Nothing we do seems to stop it for 
good.  I don't know her background as she came from a rescuer who passed 
suddenly and her 23 cats were taken to Pals, a no kill rescue.  All were 
adopted but Casey and Lil Bit who were 9 years old then.  They were strays 
when the rescuer got them.  We have used Covenia before for Homie and Lil Bit 
and so far no one has had a bad reaction.  


 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: 
 Margo,
 
 That's a very good point to make about Convenia. My vet was very reluctant 
 to use it on Ember because it stays around so long. It ended up happening 
 anyway (I was out of state, and my dad was panicking about a URI Ember was 
 dealing with). Fortunately, she had no problems tolerating it.
 
 There's a lot of info online about Convenia. Some people avoid it, but I 
 would use it on Ember again, knowing that she did well on it.
 
 Lance
 
 On Jun 26, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
  
   Two drawbacks for Convenia. If the cat reacts badly, there's no way to 
  discontinue the drug, it's in the system for two weeks (more or less). 
  Two, it is generally prescribed for skin infections, and sometimes FLUTD. 
  Doesn't seem to be considered effective for secondary bacterial infections 
  often concurrent with a URI. In most common URIs , only an anti-viral will 
  actually affect the primary disease. Clavamox, clindamycin, baytril, and 
  sometimes doxycycline can help with the possible bacterial component(s).
   
I used Naxcel and Zenequin for Gribble when he 
  was so ill, but I don't really know if it helped, or he got better in 
  spite of my efforts. Famciclovir seemed very helpful with both my boys 
  recently, but there's no literature on using it with an FeLV positive cat, 
  and it's basically only effective against herpes.
   
  HTH
   
  Margo
   

  -Original Message- 
  From: ance 
  Sent: Jun 26, 2013 11:45 AM 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts 
  
  I'm glad that Polli has your boyfriend. I really feel that love (which is, 
  in a way, the flipside of stress) helps fight the disease and gives cats a 
  reason to fight and live. I wonder if Convenia would help the URI (it's 
  just another abx). I've only used it once, so I can't vouch for it too 
  much, but it seemed ot help. Maybe another vet would be more willing to 
  try something different. 
   
  You and Polli are in my thoughts and prayers.
   
  Lance
   
   
  On Wed, Jun 26, 2013, at 01:02 AM, Amanda K. Payne wrote:
  Thank you everyone!!  As you can imagine, I'm a wreck over it.  I'm also 
  housesitting at the moment and can't be with her at night.  Though she's 
  with my boyfriend who loves her dearly, I feel awful that I'm not there 
  to comfort her. Over the last ten years, I've had my cats die from FeLV, 
  FIP and now Polli is also deathly ill with FeLV.  None of the cats ever 
  met one another but it seems I'm a sucker for sick kitties. The cats I 
  rescue and I just can't seem to catch a break.  
   
   
  Lance, I haven't had the vet give her a transfusion.  The vet we went to 
  (whom I don't care for) diagnosed her with non regenerative anemia back 
  in March.  FeLV is wreaking havoc on her bone marrow and it's just not 
  producing enough red and white blood cells.  A transfusion would maybe 
  give her a few more weeks, if that. 
   
  Margo, I'm not sure if there is anything I can do.  She was doing okay 
  before I brought home a nasty URI (I volunteer with several rescues and 
  must have somehow exposed her to it).  She of course caught it.  I gave 
  her Clavamox for two days before she just crashed. The Clavamox caused 
  her to poo herself for hours on end and she deteriorated after that.  I 
  took her off Clavamox and decided to look for a better vet.  My vet 
  doesn't seem interested in helping what she thinks is a lost cause.
   
  Watching her get sick just makes me start to doubt all my decisions.  
  Could I have done something better? Did I bring something home from the 
  shelters I volunteer at that may eventually kill her?  I know it is what 
  it is but like many of you, I

Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-27 Thread dlgegg
Now = Blue Buffalo, Was - Hill's Science Diet (kept vomiting when ate  so 
switched to get away from corn, wheat  soy.  Mostly Duck, everyone likes it.  
Sometimes if cannot get Blue Bufal9o, Wellness Chicken or turkey.  All dry, 
cannot get them to switch to canned.  If I add warm water to make it small , 
they drink the broth and leave the meat.

 Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote: 
 
 
   Just to start with the simplest first, what is Casey eating?
 
 Margo
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Jun 26, 2013 11:30 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts
 
 My problem isn't URI but on and off diarrhea.  Casey is 15 and most of the 5 
 years I have had her, she has had this problem.  It goes away for 6 months 
 and then comes back again.  The vet didn't find parasites in her stool, but 
 did find a bacterial thing.  He gave her a shot of Covina  and we brought 
 home Orbax to give her orally.  It seems to have quieted down a bit and is 
 no longer full blown diahhrea, but not really formed stools.  Any one have 
 any suggestions.  we are at our wits end.  Nothing we do seems to stop it 
 for good.  I don't know her background as she came from a rescuer who passed 
 suddenly and her 23 cats were taken to Pals, a no kill rescue.  All were 
 adopted but Casey and Lil Bit who were 9 years old then.  They were strays 
 when the rescuer got them.  We have used Covenia before for Homie and Lil 
 Bit and so far no one has had a bad reaction.  
 
 
  Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: 
  Margo,
  
  That's a very good point to make about Convenia. My vet was very reluctant 
  to use it on Ember because it stays around so long. It ended up happening 
  anyway (I was out of state, and my dad was panicking about a URI Ember was 
  dealing with). Fortunately, she had no problems tolerating it.
  
  There's a lot of info online about Convenia. Some people avoid it, but I 
  would use it on Ember again, knowing that she did well on it.
  
  Lance
  
  On Jun 26, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:
  
   
Two drawbacks for Convenia. If the cat reacts badly, there's no way to 
   discontinue the drug, it's in the system for two weeks (more or less). 
   Two, it is generally prescribed for skin infections, and sometimes 
   FLUTD. Doesn't seem to be considered effective for secondary bacterial 
   infections often concurrent with a URI. In most common URIs , only an 
   anti-viral will actually affect the primary disease. Clavamox, 
   clindamycin, baytril, and sometimes doxycycline can help with the 
   possible bacterial component(s).

 I used Naxcel and Zenequin for Gribble when he 
   was so ill, but I don't really know if it helped, or he got better in 
   spite of my efforts. Famciclovir seemed very helpful with both my boys 
   recently, but there's no literature on using it with an FeLV positive 
   cat, and it's basically only effective against herpes.

   HTH

   Margo

 
   -Original Message- 
   From: ance 
   Sent: Jun 26, 2013 11:45 AM 
   To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
   Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts 
   
   I'm glad that Polli has your boyfriend. I really feel that love (which 
   is, in a way, the flipside of stress) helps fight the disease and gives 
   cats a reason to fight and live. I wonder if Convenia would help the URI 
   (it's just another abx). I've only used it once, so I can't vouch for it 
   too much, but it seemed ot help. Maybe another vet would be more willing 
   to try something different. 

   You and Polli are in my thoughts and prayers.

   Lance


   On Wed, Jun 26, 2013, at 01:02 AM, Amanda K. Payne wrote:
   Thank you everyone!!  As you can imagine, I'm a wreck over it.  I'm 
   also housesitting at the moment and can't be with her at night.  Though 
   she's with my boyfriend who loves her dearly, I feel awful that I'm not 
   there to comfort her. Over the last ten years, I've had my cats die 
   from FeLV, FIP and now Polli is also deathly ill with FeLV.  None of 
   the cats ever met one another but it seems I'm a sucker for sick 
   kitties. The cats I rescue and I just can't seem to catch a break.  


   Lance, I haven't had the vet give her a transfusion.  The vet we went 
   to (whom I don't care for) diagnosed her with non regenerative anemia 
   back in March.  FeLV is wreaking havoc on her bone marrow and it's just 
   not producing enough red and white blood cells.  A transfusion would 
   maybe give her a few more weeks, if that. 

   Margo, I'm not sure if there is anything I can do.  She was doing okay 
   before I brought home a nasty URI (I volunteer with several rescues and 
   must have somehow exposed her to it).  She of course caught it.  I gave 
   her Clavamox for two days before she just

Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-26 Thread Amanda K. Payne
Thank you everyone!!  As you can imagine, I'm a wreck over it.  I'm also
housesitting at the moment and can't be with her at night.  Though she's
with my boyfriend who loves her dearly, I feel awful that I'm not there to
comfort her. Over the last ten years, I've had my cats die from FeLV, FIP
and now Polli is also deathly ill with FeLV.  None of the cats ever met one
another but it seems I'm a sucker for sick kitties. The cats I rescue and I
just can't seem to catch a break.

Lance, I haven't had the vet give her a transfusion.  The vet we went to
(whom I don't care for) diagnosed her with non regenerative anemia back in
March.  FeLV is wreaking havoc on her bone marrow and it's just not
producing enough red and white blood cells.  A transfusion would maybe give
her a few more weeks, if that.

Margo, I'm not sure if there is anything I can do.  She was doing okay
before I brought home a nasty URI (I volunteer with several rescues and
must have somehow exposed her to it).  She of course caught it.  I gave her
Clavamox for two days before she just crashed. The Clavamox caused her to
poo herself for hours on end and she deteriorated after that.  I took her
off Clavamox and decided to look for a better vet.  My vet doesn't seem
interested in helping what she thinks is a lost cause.

Watching her get sick just makes me start to doubt all my decisions.  Could
I have done something better? Did I bring something home from the shelters
I volunteer at that may eventually kill her?  I know it is what it is but
like many of you, I just can't help from wondering if I could have done
something differently that would prolong her time.

I'll keep you all updated and thank you again for the support.

Best,
-Amanda


On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.netwrote:


  We're here, Amanda.



  Please know that Polli is getting LOTS of positive energy
 and hope sent her way.  Are you able to do anything for her, at this point?



  I know everyone wishes her (and you) the very best,



 Margo



 -Original Message-
 From: Amanda K. Payne



 **
 Sent: Jun 25, 2013 2:09 PM
 To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

 Hi everyone!

 Please send some good energy to my Polli.  She's have a rough few days and
 I'm not sure she'll come out of this.  She was diagnosed with severe anemia
 back at the beginning of March. She rebounded but not completely.
  Recently, her breathing has become a bit more labored. We also noticed
 she's pulling out her own fur andsome strange lumps on her stomach.  I'm
 really worried that the end is near for her and feel so guilty that I
 couldn't do more. Please keep us in your thoughts.  It's going to be a
 tough few days.

 Best,
 -Amanda

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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-26 Thread Lorrie
Amanda, My thoughts are with you, because I have had many FelV cats over the
years. Once this virus is in their bone marrow they will not produce enough
red blood cells, and death is inevitable.  Her vital organs will shut down
and she will slowly suffocate. A transfusion will only buy her a few weeks if
that long.  Gentle euthanasia is the only option. I am so sorry, but this is
the kindest thing you can do for her.

Lorrie


On 06-25, Amanda K. Payne wrote:
Thank you everyone!!  As you can imagine, I'm a wreck over it.  I'm
also housesitting at the moment and can't be with her at night.  Though
she's with my boyfriend who loves her dearly, I feel awful that I'm not
there to comfort her. Over the last ten years, I've had my cats die
from FeLV, FIP and now Polli is also deathly ill with FeLV.  



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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-26 Thread Margo
Lorrie wrote;

Once this virus is in their bone marrow they will not produce enough red blood 
cells, and death is inevitable.


  I see this differently. So does The Winn Foundation. They say;

Finally, some cats can develop latent or sequestered infection. This probably 
happens to about 5-10% of cats. These cats, whose virus is hiding in sites such 
as the bone marrow, will rarely be contagious and are unlikely to develop 
illness. They will not test positive on routine testing.

 That is from http://www.winnfelinehealth.org/pages/felv_web.pdf  

 The AAFP also seems to feel differently;

 http://jfm.sagepub.com/content/10/3/300.full  

 from 2008 says;

Regressive infection is accompanied by an effective immune response, and virus 
replication is contained prior to or at the time of bone marrow infection. Cats 
with regressive infection are at little risk of developing FeLV-associated 
diseases. FeLV is integrated into the cat's genome, but viral shedding does not 
occur (Pedersen et al 1977, Lutz et al 1983, Flynn et al 2000, 2002). 

Following infection, regressive and progressive infections can be distinguished 
by repeated testing for viral antigen in peripheral blood (Torres et al 2005). 
Most infected cats initially become antigen positive within 2–3 weeks after 
virus exposure. They may then test negative for viral antigen 2–8 weeks later 
or, in rare cases, even after many months (regressive infection). Both 
progressive and regressive infections are almost always accompanied by 
persistent FeLV proviral DNA in blood. Some infected cats never develop 
detectable antigenemia. In this case, real-time PCR is more sensitive than 
antigen detection to detect FeLV exposure

 Neither of these sources (and I have others, but those are from the 
best known entities) seem to feel that bone marrow involvement is inevitably 
fatal. 

 It is possible that euthanasia is the best option for Polli, but I 
don't believe that a cat sero-converting to negative gives an imminent death 
sentence.

Just my thoughts,

Best of healing energies to Polli, 

Margo




-Original Message-
From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
Sent: Jun 26, 2013 6:43 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

Amanda, My thoughts are with you, because I have had many FelV cats over the
years. Once this virus is in their bone marrow they will not produce enough
red blood cells, and death is inevitable.  Her vital organs will shut down
and she will slowly suffocate. A transfusion will only buy her a few weeks if
that long.  Gentle euthanasia is the only option. I am so sorry, but this is
the kindest thing you can do for her.

Lorrie


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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-26 Thread Lance
I've also read that there are several FeLV viruses. The virus that is
contagious is the main virus, while two other viruses arise within the
cat after the main virus interacts with the cat's DNA. So-called
FeLV-B is responsible for increased cancer risk while FeLV-C is
responsible for the kind of severe anemia we sometimes see.

In Ember's case, I'm wondering if those viruses were made. When she
has had anemia, it's been very mild (discovered incidentally and not by
symptoms), so I'm not sure it was the type of anemia that FeLV can
convey. I think those viruses might not always arise in all FeLV cats,
as they rely on information already present in the cat's DNA.

I also think that we don't know enough about FeLV, so the main virus
may cause a lot of anemia we see, and the information I mentioned is
outdated.

On Wed, Jun 26, 2013, at 05:43 AM, Lorrie wrote:
 Amanda, My thoughts are with you, because I have had many FelV cats over
 the
 years. Once this virus is in their bone marrow they will not produce
 enough
 red blood cells, and death is inevitable.  Her vital organs will shut
 down
 and she will slowly suffocate. A transfusion will only buy her a few
 weeks if
 that long.  Gentle euthanasia is the only option. I am so sorry, but this
 is
 the kindest thing you can do for her.
 
 Lorrie
 
 
 On 06-25, Amanda K. Payne wrote:
 Thank you everyone!!  As you can imagine, I'm a wreck over it.  I'm
 also housesitting at the moment and can't be with her at night.  Though
 she's with my boyfriend who loves her dearly, I feel awful that I'm not
 there to comfort her. Over the last ten years, I've had my cats die
 from FeLV, FIP and now Polli is also deathly ill with FeLV.  
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-26 Thread Margo



Two drawbacks for Convenia.If the cat reacts badly, there's no way to discontinue the drug, it's in the systemfor two weeks (more or less). Two, it is generally prescribed for skin infections, and sometimes FLUTD. Doesn't seem to be considered effective for secondary bacterial infectionsoften concurrentwith a URI. In most common URIs , only an anti-viral will actually affect the primary disease. Clavamox, clindamycin, baytril, and sometimes doxycycline can help with the possible bacterial component(s).

 I used Naxcel and Zenequin for Gribble when he was so ill, but I don't really know if it helped, or he got better in spite of my efforts. Famciclovir seemed very helpful with both my boys recently, but there's no literature on using it with an FeLV positive cat, and it's basically only effective against herpes.

HTH

Margo

 
-Original Message- From: ance <lini...@fastmail.fm>Sent: Jun 26, 2013 11:45 AM To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts 
I'm glad that Polli has your boyfriend. I really feel that love (which is, in a way, the flipside of stress) helps fight the disease and gives cats a reason to fight and live. I wonder if Convenia would help the URI (it's just another abx). I've only used it once, so I can't vouch for it too much, but it seemed ot help. Maybe another vet would be more willing to try something different. 

You and Polli are in my thoughts and prayers.

Lance


On Wed, Jun 26, 2013, at 01:02 AM, Amanda K. Payne wrote:


Thank you everyone!! As you can imagine, I'm a wreck over it. I'm also housesitting at the moment and can't be with her at night. Though she's with my boyfriend who loves her dearly, I feel awful that I'm not there to comfort her. Over the last ten years, I've had my cats die from FeLV, FIP and now Polli is also deathly ill with FeLV. None of the cats ever met one another but it seems I'm a sucker for sick kitties. The cats I rescue and I just can't seem to catch a break. 


Lance, I haven't had the vet give her a transfusion. The vet we went to (whom I don't care for) diagnosed her with non regenerative anemia back in March. FeLV is wreaking havoc on her bone marrow and it's just not producing enough red and white blood cells. A transfusion would maybe give her a few more weeks, if that.

Margo, I'm not sure if there is anything I can do. She was doing okay before I brought home a nasty URI (I volunteer with several rescues and must have somehow exposed her to it). She of course caught it. I gave her Clavamox for two days before she just crashed. The Clavamox caused her to poo herself for hours on end and she deteriorated after that. I took her off Clavamox and decided to look for a better vet. My vet doesn't seem interested in helping what she thinks is a lost cause.

Watching her get sick just makes me start to doubt all my decisions. Could I have done something better? Did I bring something home from the shelters I volunteer at that may eventually kill her? I know it is what it is but like many of you, I just can't help from wondering if I could have done something differently that would prolong her time.

I'll keep you all updated and thank you again for the support.

Best,
-Amanda




On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:





We're here, Amanda.

 Please know that Polli is getting LOTS of positive energy and hope sent her way. Are you able to do anything for her, at this point?

 I know everyone wishes her (and you) the very best,

Margo

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Sent: Jun 25, 2013 2:09 PM 
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts 

Hi everyone! 

Please send some good energy to my Polli. She's have a rough few days and I'm not sure she'll come out of this. She was diagnosed with severe anemia back at the beginning of March. She rebounded but not completely. Recently, her breathing has become a bit more labored. We also noticed she's pulling out her own fur andsome strange lumps on her stomach. I'm really worried that the end is near for her and feel so guilty that I couldn't do more. Please keep us in your thoughts. It's going to be a tough few days.


Best,

-Amanda


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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-26 Thread Lance
Margo,

That's a very good point to make about Convenia. My vet was very reluctant to 
use it on Ember because it stays around so long. It ended up happening anyway 
(I was out of state, and my dad was panicking about a URI Ember was dealing 
with). Fortunately, she had no problems tolerating it.

There's a lot of info online about Convenia. Some people avoid it, but I would 
use it on Ember again, knowing that she did well on it.

Lance

On Jun 26, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:

 
  Two drawbacks for Convenia. If the cat reacts badly, there's no way to 
 discontinue the drug, it's in the system for two weeks (more or less). Two, 
 it is generally prescribed for skin infections, and sometimes FLUTD. Doesn't 
 seem to be considered effective for secondary bacterial infections often 
 concurrent with a URI. In most common URIs , only an anti-viral will actually 
 affect the primary disease. Clavamox, clindamycin, baytril, and sometimes 
 doxycycline can help with the possible bacterial component(s).
  
   I used Naxcel and Zenequin for Gribble when he was 
 so ill, but I don't really know if it helped, or he got better in spite of my 
 efforts. Famciclovir seemed very helpful with both my boys recently, but 
 there's no literature on using it with an FeLV positive cat, and it's 
 basically only effective against herpes.
  
 HTH
  
 Margo
  
   
 -Original Message- 
 From: ance 
 Sent: Jun 26, 2013 11:45 AM 
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts 
 
 I'm glad that Polli has your boyfriend. I really feel that love (which is, in 
 a way, the flipside of stress) helps fight the disease and gives cats a 
 reason to fight and live. I wonder if Convenia would help the URI (it's just 
 another abx). I've only used it once, so I can't vouch for it too much, but 
 it seemed ot help. Maybe another vet would be more willing to try something 
 different. 
  
 You and Polli are in my thoughts and prayers.
  
 Lance
  
  
 On Wed, Jun 26, 2013, at 01:02 AM, Amanda K. Payne wrote:
 Thank you everyone!!  As you can imagine, I'm a wreck over it.  I'm also 
 housesitting at the moment and can't be with her at night.  Though she's 
 with my boyfriend who loves her dearly, I feel awful that I'm not there to 
 comfort her. Over the last ten years, I've had my cats die from FeLV, FIP 
 and now Polli is also deathly ill with FeLV.  None of the cats ever met one 
 another but it seems I'm a sucker for sick kitties. The cats I rescue and I 
 just can't seem to catch a break.  
  
  
 Lance, I haven't had the vet give her a transfusion.  The vet we went to 
 (whom I don't care for) diagnosed her with non regenerative anemia back in 
 March.  FeLV is wreaking havoc on her bone marrow and it's just not 
 producing enough red and white blood cells.  A transfusion would maybe give 
 her a few more weeks, if that. 
  
 Margo, I'm not sure if there is anything I can do.  She was doing okay 
 before I brought home a nasty URI (I volunteer with several rescues and must 
 have somehow exposed her to it).  She of course caught it.  I gave her 
 Clavamox for two days before she just crashed. The Clavamox caused her to 
 poo herself for hours on end and she deteriorated after that.  I took her 
 off Clavamox and decided to look for a better vet.  My vet doesn't seem 
 interested in helping what she thinks is a lost cause.
  
 Watching her get sick just makes me start to doubt all my decisions.  Could 
 I have done something better? Did I bring something home from the shelters I 
 volunteer at that may eventually kill her?  I know it is what it is but like 
 many of you, I just can't help from wondering if I could have done something 
 differently that would prolong her time.
  
 I'll keep you all updated and thank you again for the support.
  
 Best,
 -Amanda
  
  
 On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:
  
  
 We're here, Amanda.
 
  Please know that Polli is getting LOTS of positive energy 
 and hope sent her way.  Are you able to do anything for her, at this point?
 
  I know everyone wishes her (and you) the very best,
 
 Margo
 
 -Original Message- 
 From: Amanda K. Payne 
 
 
 Sent: Jun 25, 2013 2:09 PM 
 To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts 
  
 Hi everyone!
  
 Please send some good energy to my Polli.  She's have a rough few days and 
 I'm not sure she'll come out of this.  She was diagnosed with severe anemia 
 back at the beginning of March. She rebounded but not completely.  Recently, 
 her breathing has become a bit more labored. We also noticed she's pulling 
 out her own fur andsome strange lumps on her stomach.  I'm really worried 
 that the end is near for her and feel so guilty that I couldn't do more. 
 Please keep us in your thoughts.  It's going

Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-26 Thread Lorrie
 
   I see this differently. So does The Winn Foundation. They say;
 
 Finally, some cats can develop latent or sequestered infection. This
 probably happens to about 5-10% of cats. These cats, whose virus is hiding
 in sites such as the bone marrow, will rarely be contagious and are
 unlikely to develop illness. They will not test positive on routine
 testing.

True, IF the virus is latent and hiding in the bone marrow, but when a cat
is severely anemic the virus is active, and the cat will suffer a painful
death.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-26 Thread Beth
Yes, anemia is no way to go.


 
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 From: Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Wednesday, June 26, 2013 5:34 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts
 

 
           I see this differently. So does The Winn Foundation. They say;
 
 Finally, some cats can develop latent or sequestered infection. This
 probably happens to about 5-10% of cats. These cats, whose virus is hiding
 in sites such as the bone marrow, will rarely be contagious and are
 unlikely to develop illness. They will not test positive on routine
 testing.

True, IF the virus is latent and hiding in the bone marrow, but when a cat
is severely anemic the virus is active, and the cat will suffer a painful
death.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-26 Thread Margo
Lorrie wrote;True, IF the virus is latent and hiding in the bone marrow, but 
when a cat
is severely anemic the virus is active, and the cat will suffer a painful
death.

  I must have missed something, sorry. What I saw Amanda say was;

She was diagnosed with severe anemia back at the beginning of March. She 
rebounded but not completely.  Recently, her breathing has become a bit more 
labored.

  This indicated to me that the severe anemia had responded once, and 
that at this point, I didn't think that there had been a CBC done recently. 

Again, my apologies. I wanted to encourage and support Amanda, but since Polli 
has been confirmed as severely anemic (HCT 10-15, I believe) and no treatment 
is planned, then yes, euthanasia is probably best. I had thought that the 
anemia related to FeLV was less well understood. I'll keep researching.

I'm so sorry.

Margo

 


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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-26 Thread Amanda K. Payne
Her anemia isn't really understood; it comes and goes so I'm wary of the
non regenerative anemia diagnosis. I'm not sure if her recent problems
are related to anemia or to the URI.  We're looking for a new vet at the
moment.  As soon as I know more, I'll let you all know.

-Amanda


On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.netwrote:

 Lorrie wrote;True, IF the virus is latent and hiding in the bone marrow,
 but when a cat
 is severely anemic the virus is active, and the cat will suffer a painful
 death.

   I must have missed something, sorry. What I saw Amanda say was;

 She was diagnosed with severe anemia back at the beginning of March. She
 rebounded but not completely.  Recently, her breathing has become a bit
 more labored.

   This indicated to me that the severe anemia had responded once,
 and that at this point, I didn't think that there had been a CBC done
 recently.

 Again, my apologies. I wanted to encourage and support Amanda, but since
 Polli has been confirmed as severely anemic (HCT 10-15, I believe) and no
 treatment is planned, then yes, euthanasia is probably best. I had thought
 that the anemia related to FeLV was less well understood. I'll keep
 researching.

 I'm so sorry.

 Margo




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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-26 Thread dlgegg
My problem isn't URI but on and off diarrhea.  Casey is 15 and most of the 5 
years I have had her, she has had this problem.  It goes away for 6 months and 
then comes back again.  The vet didn't find parasites in her stool, but did 
find a bacterial thing.  He gave her a shot of Covina  and we brought home 
Orbax to give her orally.  It seems to have quieted down a bit and is no longer 
full blown diahhrea, but not really formed stools.  Any one have any 
suggestions.  we are at our wits end.  Nothing we do seems to stop it for good. 
 I don't know her background as she came from a rescuer who passed suddenly and 
her 23 cats were taken to Pals, a no kill rescue.  All were adopted but Casey 
and Lil Bit who were 9 years old then.  They were strays when the rescuer got 
them.  We have used Covenia before for Homie and Lil Bit and so far no one has 
had a bad reaction.  


 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: 
 Margo,
 
 That's a very good point to make about Convenia. My vet was very reluctant to 
 use it on Ember because it stays around so long. It ended up happening anyway 
 (I was out of state, and my dad was panicking about a URI Ember was dealing 
 with). Fortunately, she had no problems tolerating it.
 
 There's a lot of info online about Convenia. Some people avoid it, but I 
 would use it on Ember again, knowing that she did well on it.
 
 Lance
 
 On Jun 26, 2013, at 12:28 PM, Margo toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
  
   Two drawbacks for Convenia. If the cat reacts badly, there's no way to 
  discontinue the drug, it's in the system for two weeks (more or less). Two, 
  it is generally prescribed for skin infections, and sometimes FLUTD. 
  Doesn't seem to be considered effective for secondary bacterial infections 
  often concurrent with a URI. In most common URIs , only an anti-viral will 
  actually affect the primary disease. Clavamox, clindamycin, baytril, and 
  sometimes doxycycline can help with the possible bacterial component(s).
   
I used Naxcel and Zenequin for Gribble when he 
  was so ill, but I don't really know if it helped, or he got better in spite 
  of my efforts. Famciclovir seemed very helpful with both my boys recently, 
  but there's no literature on using it with an FeLV positive cat, and it's 
  basically only effective against herpes.
   
  HTH
   
  Margo
   

  -Original Message- 
  From: ance 
  Sent: Jun 26, 2013 11:45 AM 
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts 
  
  I'm glad that Polli has your boyfriend. I really feel that love (which is, 
  in a way, the flipside of stress) helps fight the disease and gives cats a 
  reason to fight and live. I wonder if Convenia would help the URI (it's 
  just another abx). I've only used it once, so I can't vouch for it too 
  much, but it seemed ot help. Maybe another vet would be more willing to try 
  something different. 
   
  You and Polli are in my thoughts and prayers.
   
  Lance
   
   
  On Wed, Jun 26, 2013, at 01:02 AM, Amanda K. Payne wrote:
  Thank you everyone!!  As you can imagine, I'm a wreck over it.  I'm also 
  housesitting at the moment and can't be with her at night.  Though she's 
  with my boyfriend who loves her dearly, I feel awful that I'm not there to 
  comfort her. Over the last ten years, I've had my cats die from FeLV, FIP 
  and now Polli is also deathly ill with FeLV.  None of the cats ever met 
  one another but it seems I'm a sucker for sick kitties. The cats I rescue 
  and I just can't seem to catch a break.  
   
   
  Lance, I haven't had the vet give her a transfusion.  The vet we went to 
  (whom I don't care for) diagnosed her with non regenerative anemia back in 
  March.  FeLV is wreaking havoc on her bone marrow and it's just not 
  producing enough red and white blood cells.  A transfusion would maybe 
  give her a few more weeks, if that. 
   
  Margo, I'm not sure if there is anything I can do.  She was doing okay 
  before I brought home a nasty URI (I volunteer with several rescues and 
  must have somehow exposed her to it).  She of course caught it.  I gave 
  her Clavamox for two days before she just crashed. The Clavamox caused her 
  to poo herself for hours on end and she deteriorated after that.  I took 
  her off Clavamox and decided to look for a better vet.  My vet doesn't 
  seem interested in helping what she thinks is a lost cause.
   
  Watching her get sick just makes me start to doubt all my decisions.  
  Could I have done something better? Did I bring something home from the 
  shelters I volunteer at that may eventually kill her?  I know it is what 
  it is but like many of you, I just can't help from wondering if I could 
  have done something differently that would prolong her time.
   
  I'll keep you all updated and thank you again for the support.
   
  Best,
  -Amanda
   
   
  On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Margo

Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-26 Thread dlgegg
I agree with that, love is one of the most important things you can give them.


 Lance lini...@fastmail.fm wrote: 
 I'm glad that Polli has your boyfriend. I really feel that love (which
 is, in a way, the flipside of stress) helps fight the disease and gives
 cats a reason to fight and live. I wonder if Convenia would help the
 URI (it's just another abx). I've only used it once, so I can't vouch
 for it too much, but it seemed ot help. Maybe another vet would be more
 willing to try something different.
 
 
 
 You and Polli are in my thoughts and prayers.
 
 
 
 Lance
 
 
 
 
 
 On Wed, Jun 26, 2013, at 01:02 AM, Amanda K. Payne wrote:
 
 Thank you everyone!!  As you can imagine, I'm a wreck over it.  I'm
 also housesitting at the moment and can't be with her at night.  Though
 she's with my boyfriend who loves her dearly, I feel awful that I'm not
 there to comfort her. Over the last ten years, I've had my cats die
 from FeLV, FIP and now Polli is also deathly ill with FeLV.  None of
 the cats ever met one another but it seems I'm a sucker for sick
 kitties. The cats I rescue and I just can't seem to catch a break.
 
 
 Lance, I haven't had the vet give her a transfusion.  The vet we went
 to (whom I don't care for) diagnosed her with non regenerative anemia
 back in March.  FeLV is wreaking havoc on her bone marrow and it's just
 not producing enough red and white blood cells.  A transfusion would
 maybe give her a few more weeks, if that.
 
 Margo, I'm not sure if there is anything I can do.  She was doing okay
 before I brought home a nasty URI (I volunteer with several rescues and
 must have somehow exposed her to it).  She of course caught it.  I gave
 her Clavamox for two days before she just crashed. The Clavamox caused
 her to poo herself for hours on end and she deteriorated after that.  I
 took her off Clavamox and decided to look for a better vet.  My vet
 doesn't seem interested in helping what she thinks is a lost cause.
 
 Watching her get sick just makes me start to doubt all my decisions.
 Could I have done something better? Did I bring something home from the
 shelters I volunteer at that may eventually kill her?  I know it is
 what it is but like many of you, I just can't help from wondering if I
 could have done something differently that would prolong her time.
 
 I'll keep you all updated and thank you again for the support.
 
 Best,
 -Amanda
 
 
 
 On Tue, Jun 25, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Margo
 [1]toomanykitti...@earthlink.net wrote:
 
 
   We're here, Amanda.
 
Please know that Polli is getting LOTS of positive
   energy and hope sent her way.  Are you able to do anything for her,
   at this point?
 
I know everyone wishes her (and you) the very best,
 
   Margo
 
   -Original Message-
 
 From: Amanda K. Payne
 
 Sent: Jun 25, 2013 2:09 PM
 
 To: [2]Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts
 
 
 
 Hi everyone!
 
 Please send some good energy to my Polli.  She's have a rough few days
 and I'm not sure she'll come out of this.  She was diagnosed with
 severe anemia back at the beginning of March. She rebounded but not
 completely.  Recently, her breathing has become a bit more labored. We
 also noticed she's pulling out her own fur andsome strange lumps on her
 stomach.  I'm really worried that the end is near for her and feel so
 guilty that I couldn't do more. Please keep us in your thoughts.  It's
 going to be a tough few days.
 
 Best,
 -Amanda
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-25 Thread Maryam Ulomi
Keeping Polli and you in my thoughts. Please don't feel guilty, you have given 
her plenty of love and care!!!

Sent from my iPhone.

On Jun 25, 2013, at 14:09, Amanda K. Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone!
 
 Please send some good energy to my Polli.  She's have a rough few days and 
 I'm not sure she'll come out of this.  She was diagnosed with severe anemia 
 back at the beginning of March. She rebounded but not completely.  Recently, 
 her breathing has become a bit more labored. We also noticed she's pulling 
 out her own fur and has some strange lumps on her stomach.  I'm really 
 worried that the end is near for her and feel so guilty that I couldn't do 
 more. Please keep us in your thoughts.  It's going to be a tough few days.
 
 Best,
 -Amanda
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-25 Thread Beth
So sorry Amanda -

The heavy breathing could be the anemia getting much worse. Keeping you  Polli 
in thy thoughts.

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 From: Amanda K. Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com
To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 2:09 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts
 


Hi everyone!

Please send some good energy to my Polli.  She's have a rough few days and I'm 
not sure she'll come out of this.  She was diagnosed with severe anemia back at 
the beginning of March. She rebounded but not completely.  Recently, her 
breathing has become a bit more labored. We also noticed she's pulling out her 
own fur and has some strange lumps on her stomach.  I'm really worried that the 
end is near for her and feel so guilty that I couldn't do more. Please keep us 
in your thoughts.  It's going to be a tough few days.

Best,
-Amanda

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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-25 Thread Lance
I'll be thinking of Polli, hoping for another rebound. She's been on my
prayer list for a little while. Has she ever had a transfusion? I know
the effects aren't permanent, but it might be able to buy you some time
to see what's going on and treat that. Take care of yourself, Amanda.

Lance
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From: Amanda K. Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com
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Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2013 2:09 PM
Subject: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

Hi everyone!

Please send some good energy to my Polli.  She's have a rough few days
and I'm not sure she'll come out of this.  She was diagnosed with
severe anemia back at the beginning of March. She rebounded but not
completely.  Recently, her breathing has become a bit more labored. We
also noticed she's pulling out her own fur and has some strange lumps
on her stomach.  I'm really worried that the end is near for her and
feel so guilty that I couldn't do more. Please keep us in your
thoughts.  It's going to be a tough few days.

Best,
-Amanda

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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-25 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Amanda
You and Polli are in my thoughts and prayers.  Hope for the best and
appreciate your furry buddy.
Hugs
Bonnie

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Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

Keeping Polli and you in my thoughts. Please don't feel guilty, you have
given her plenty of love and care!!!

Sent from my iPhone.

On Jun 25, 2013, at 14:09, Amanda K. Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com
wrote:

 Hi everyone!
 
 Please send some good energy to my Polli.  She's have a rough few days and
I'm not sure she'll come out of this.  She was diagnosed with severe anemia
back at the beginning of March. She rebounded but not completely.  Recently,
her breathing has become a bit more labored. We also noticed she's pulling
out her own fur and has some strange lumps on her stomach.  I'm really
worried that the end is near for her and feel so guilty that I couldn't do
more. Please keep us in your thoughts.  It's going to be a tough few days.
 
 Best,
 -Amanda
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-25 Thread dlgegg
Be kind to yourself and Polli.  Is it humid where you are?  My guys will not go 
outside now because of humidity and the buffalo gnats.  I don't go out because 
of the humidity, I cannot breathe when half of what I breathe in is water, not 
air.  Something like gnats, mosquitos could have something to do withpulling 
out hair.  Could be a reaction to itching.  Just trying to think of what has 
happened to my guys in years past.

 Amanda K. Payne amandak.pa...@gmail.com wrote: 
 Hi everyone!
 
 Please send some good energy to my Polli.  She's have a rough few days and
 I'm not sure she'll come out of this.  She was diagnosed with severe anemia
 back at the beginning of March. She rebounded but not completely.
  Recently, her breathing has become a bit more labored. We also noticed
 she's pulling out her own fur and has some strange lumps on her stomach.
  I'm really worried that the end is near for her and feel so guilty that I
 couldn't do more. Please keep us in your thoughts.  It's going to be a
 tough few days.
 
 Best,
 -Amanda
 
 -- 
 There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge Bertrand
 Russell


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Re: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts

2013-06-25 Thread Margo



We're here, Amanda.

 Please know that Polli is getting LOTS of positive energy and hope sent her way. Are you able to do anything for her, at this point?

 I know everyone wishes her (and you) the very best,

Margo

-Original Message- From: "Amanda K. Payne" 

Sent: Jun 25, 2013 2:09 PM To: Felvtalk@felineleukemia.org Subject: [Felvtalk] Please keep Polli in your thoughts 
Hi everyone!

Please send some good energy to my Polli. She's have a rough few days and I'm not sure she'll come out of this. She was diagnosed with severe anemia back at the beginning of March. She rebounded but not completely. Recently, her breathing has become a bit more labored. We also noticed she's pulling out her own fur andsome strange lumps on her stomach. I'm really worried that the end is near for her and feel so guilty that I couldn't do more. Please keep us in your thoughts. It's going to be a tough few days.

Best,
-Amanda
-- "There is much pleasure to be gained from useless knowledge" Bertrand Russell 

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