Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-15 Thread Beth
Congratulations on our new additions! I'm sure Murphy sent them your way :) 
I am so drawn to black kitties. I just lost mine this morning from 
complications from Stomatitis.  It seems many times they have realized they 
need super personalities to overcome the black kitty syndrome. I have had 
adopters come to our shelter  say they did not want to look at any black cats 
 then leave with a black cat because their personalities were just what they 
were looking for.

Beth
Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   

--- On Tue, 12/14/10, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net
Subject: [Felvtalk]  Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 8:55 PM

Well, here we go into the fray!! After losing 5 FeLV+ boys in the past 1 1/2 
years and suffering the worst heartache and financial strain-we were down to 
just Rosie-littermate to 4 of the boys who passed first, a month apart, all by 
the time they were a year old. We just lost Murphy the end of October, he was 2 
1/2, and our big, elderly Aussie on Nov 6. We went to Petsmart to get some dog 
food and a local rescue had their adoptable kitties there. I had already asked 
the SPCA, been honest with Rosie's FeLV+ status-they said no kitty for me. I 
fell in love with 2 of the boys there and had picked one out-a semi long haired 
lilac colored kitty. He was so cuddly and also played tough with the other 
kittens-he was about 5 months old and fully vaccinated for the regular stuff 
and 
neutered. I asked them to consult their vet about letting me adopt-they did and 
she said no problem!! They kept him an extra month and vaccinated him twice for 
FeLV. He had already tested negative for it. So Miso has been home for a week 
now and our home is active again-Rosie is playing-they chase each other all 
over 
the house! Oh-Miso had been a feral baby-and had a badly infected eye which had 
to be removed-but he isn't hampered at all by it!! He is 100 mph all over the 
place and up the cat trees! When we went to pick him up, I visited the first 
kitty and he wants to live with us also-so we adopted him too-he's a solid 
black, compact kitty-mellow purr machine, also about 6 months old-the rescue 
people were so happy-he'd been with them for a long time-black kitty syndrome, 
I 
guess. But I had gravitated to him first because my lap kitty that passed 2nd 
was Jack-a solid black boy who insisted on cuddling with me as soon as I got 
home every day and I missed him so much. So in a month, he will be coming home 
to our kitty disneyland-with a living room full of cat towers and pop tents, 
ball toys in the tracks and tons of kitty toys! I can't wait. But I think it 
helps to get older kittens who have already tested negative and then 
vaccinate-it may not be foolproof, but we are trying. Alice
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-14 Thread Sharyl
WTG Alice!!
Sounds like Miso and your new black kitten have a wonderful new home.  As 
someone who does TNR and is fostering 3 black kittens I thank you for giving 
these boys a forever home.
Sharyl

--- On Tue, 12/14/10, Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net wrote:

 From: Alice Flowers aliceflow...@sbcglobal.net
 Subject: [Felvtalk]  Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Tuesday, December 14, 2010, 8:55 PM
 Well, here we go into the fray!!
 After losing 5 FeLV+ boys in the past 1 1/2 
 years and suffering the worst heartache and financial
 strain-we were down to 
 just Rosie-littermate to 4 of the boys who passed first, a
 month apart, all by 
 the time they were a year old. We just lost Murphy the end
 of October, he was 2 
 1/2, and our big, elderly Aussie on Nov 6. We went to
 Petsmart to get some dog 
 food and a local rescue had their adoptable kitties there.
 I had already asked 
 the SPCA, been honest with Rosie's FeLV+ status-they said
 no kitty for me. I 
 fell in love with 2 of the boys there and had picked one
 out-a semi long haired 
 lilac colored kitty. He was so cuddly and also played tough
 with the other 
 kittens-he was about 5 months old and fully vaccinated for
 the regular stuff and 
 neutered. I asked them to consult their vet about letting
 me adopt-they did and 
 she said no problem!! They kept him an extra month and
 vaccinated him twice for 
 FeLV. He had already tested negative for it. So Miso has
 been home for a week 
 now and our home is active again-Rosie is playing-they
 chase each other all over 
 the house! Oh-Miso had been a feral baby-and had a badly
 infected eye which had 
 to be removed-but he isn't hampered at all by it!! He is
 100 mph all over the 
 place and up the cat trees! When we went to pick him up, I
 visited the first 
 kitty and he wants to live with us also-so we adopted him
 too-he's a solid 
 black, compact kitty-mellow purr machine, also about 6
 months old-the rescue 
 people were so happy-he'd been with them for a long
 time-black kitty syndrome, I 
 guess. But I had gravitated to him first because my lap
 kitty that passed 2nd 
 was Jack-a solid black boy who insisted on cuddling with me
 as soon as I got 
 home every day and I missed him so much. So in a month, he
 will be coming home 
 to our kitty disneyland-with a living room full of cat
 towers and pop tents, 
 ball toys in the tracks and tons of kitty toys! I can't
 wait. But I think it 
 helps to get older kittens who have already tested negative
 and then 
 vaccinate-it may not be foolproof, but we are trying.
 Alice
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-08 Thread Gloria B. Lane
The other thing is that among adult cats with healthy immune systems,  
it may not matter whether they're vaccinated or not. I'm of the camp  
that thinks it doesn't matter.  I've seen articles about this but  
sorry don't have a reference right now - that healthy adult cats are  
going to throw the virus off whether they're vaccinated or not.


Gloria



On Dec 7, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote:

Thank you everyone for all your comments and feedback.  It is  
definitely helpful
and encouraging.  For those that have asked, the FELV+ kitten is  
Magic and she
is about 5 months old and healthy other than her diagnosis.  I have  
three other
cats.  Leroy and Zoe are 2 1/2 and had their FELV boosters when they  
were
kittens, but have not had them since - just rabies and distempter.   
My biggest
concern is my oldest cat, Ally, who is 13 1/2.  She has only  
received her rabies
shots since she was a kitten as she had a nearly fatal reaction to  
her vaccines
when she was a kitten.  Since she is an indoor cat, the vet  
recommended against

further vaccines many years ago.

The vet at my practice who suggested potentially integrating after  
vaccinating
also seemed to be in the camp that this disease is not passed as  
easily from cat
to cat as we might be led to believe.  She told me that it generally  
takes
prolonged consistent contact to be passed.  My FELV+ kitten is  
currently
separated from my other three negative cats and I had been concerned  
about
accidental exposure to my negative cats.  She also emphasized that  
it does not

survive long in normal household conditions.

I won't be able to talk to my regular vet until late Thursday or  
Friday.  My
husband is leaning towards wanting to vaccinate and mix if  
possible.  I'm still

on the fence.

Again, I'm very appreciate of everyone's insight and perspective.   
It definitely

helps.

Thanks,
Stephanie



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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-08 Thread Gloria B. Lane
The other thing is that among adult cats with healthy immune systems,  
it may not matter whether they're vaccinated or not. I'm of the camp  
that thinks it doesn't matter.  I've seen articles about this but  
sorry don't have a reference right now - that healthy adult cats are  
going to throw the virus off whether they're vaccinated or not.


Gloria



On Dec 7, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote:

Thank you everyone for all your comments and feedback.  It is  
definitely helpful
and encouraging.  For those that have asked, the FELV+ kitten is  
Magic and she
is about 5 months old and healthy other than her diagnosis.  I have  
three other
cats.  Leroy and Zoe are 2 1/2 and had their FELV boosters when they  
were
kittens, but have not had them since - just rabies and distempter.   
My biggest
concern is my oldest cat, Ally, who is 13 1/2.  She has only  
received her rabies
shots since she was a kitten as she had a nearly fatal reaction to  
her vaccines
when she was a kitten.  Since she is an indoor cat, the vet  
recommended against

further vaccines many years ago.

The vet at my practice who suggested potentially integrating after  
vaccinating
also seemed to be in the camp that this disease is not passed as  
easily from cat
to cat as we might be led to believe.  She told me that it generally  
takes
prolonged consistent contact to be passed.  My FELV+ kitten is  
currently
separated from my other three negative cats and I had been concerned  
about
accidental exposure to my negative cats.  She also emphasized that  
it does not

survive long in normal household conditions.

I won't be able to talk to my regular vet until late Thursday or  
Friday.  My
husband is leaning towards wanting to vaccinate and mix if  
possible.  I'm still

on the fence.

Again, I'm very appreciate of everyone's insight and perspective.   
It definitely

helps.

Thanks,
Stephanie



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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-08 Thread Natalie
I have read in holistic reviews that since rabies is required by law, and
you take a chance on vaccinating or not.  However, the FVRCP given to
kittens, then again, and then a year later (new protocol says every 3 yrs),
however, vets still do it yearly because they make money on them.  After the
initial series for kittens, FVRCP technically should last a lifetimeis
anyone listening? NO!  It's a money maker.
If I didn't operate a rescue group, with cats not going out except in safe
outdoor enclosures, I would not vaccinate every year, especially not any cat
with FIV/FeLV!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Gloria B. Lane
Sent: Wednesday, December 08, 2010 11:01 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

The other thing is that among adult cats with healthy immune systems,  
it may not matter whether they're vaccinated or not. I'm of the camp  
that thinks it doesn't matter.  I've seen articles about this but  
sorry don't have a reference right now - that healthy adult cats are  
going to throw the virus off whether they're vaccinated or not.

Gloria



On Dec 7, 2010, at 9:48 AM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote:

 Thank you everyone for all your comments and feedback.  It is  
 definitely helpful
 and encouraging.  For those that have asked, the FELV+ kitten is  
 Magic and she
 is about 5 months old and healthy other than her diagnosis.  I have  
 three other
 cats.  Leroy and Zoe are 2 1/2 and had their FELV boosters when they  
 were
 kittens, but have not had them since - just rabies and distempter.   
 My biggest
 concern is my oldest cat, Ally, who is 13 1/2.  She has only  
 received her rabies
 shots since she was a kitten as she had a nearly fatal reaction to  
 her vaccines
 when she was a kitten.  Since she is an indoor cat, the vet  
 recommended against
 further vaccines many years ago.

 The vet at my practice who suggested potentially integrating after  
 vaccinating
 also seemed to be in the camp that this disease is not passed as  
 easily from cat
 to cat as we might be led to believe.  She told me that it generally  
 takes
 prolonged consistent contact to be passed.  My FELV+ kitten is  
 currently
 separated from my other three negative cats and I had been concerned  
 about
 accidental exposure to my negative cats.  She also emphasized that  
 it does not
 survive long in normal household conditions.

 I won't be able to talk to my regular vet until late Thursday or  
 Friday.  My
 husband is leaning towards wanting to vaccinate and mix if  
 possible.  I'm still
 on the fence.

 Again, I'm very appreciate of everyone's insight and perspective.   
 It definitely
 helps.

 Thanks,
 Stephanie



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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-07 Thread Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry
Thank you everyone for all your comments and feedback.  It is definitely 
helpful 
and encouraging.  For those that have asked, the FELV+ kitten is Magic and she 
is about 5 months old and healthy other than her diagnosis.  I have three other 
cats.  Leroy and Zoe are 2 1/2 and had their FELV boosters when they were 
kittens, but have not had them since - just rabies and distempter.  My biggest 
concern is my oldest cat, Ally, who is 13 1/2.  She has only received her 
rabies 
shots since she was a kitten as she had a nearly fatal reaction to her vaccines 
when she was a kitten.  Since she is an indoor cat, the vet recommended against 
further vaccines many years ago.

The vet at my practice who suggested potentially integrating after vaccinating 
also seemed to be in the camp that this disease is not passed as easily from 
cat 
to cat as we might be led to believe.  She told me that it generally takes 
prolonged consistent contact to be passed.  My FELV+ kitten is currently 
separated from my other three negative cats and I had been concerned about 
accidental exposure to my negative cats.  She also emphasized that it does not 
survive long in normal household conditions.

I won't be able to talk to my regular vet until late Thursday or Friday.  My 
husband is leaning towards wanting to vaccinate and mix if possible.  I'm still 
on the fence.

Again, I'm very appreciate of everyone's insight and perspective.  It 
definitely 
helps.

Thanks,
Stephanie


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-07 Thread POTT, BEVERLY
Sue, my brother and I both have had FELV+ cats that lived to be 17 --
and this was back in the day before the current treatments were
available...


-Original Message-
From: Sander, Sue [mailto:sue.san...@ssa.gov] 
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative
Cats

It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years.  Does
anyone else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life?  If so, please tell
me.  I want to have hope.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-06 Thread Gloria Lane
I'm writing this on my phone so limited on what I can write. But everyone of 
course follows their own heart on this. I've been mixing mine for a few years 
As others do with no problem. I think they hype up the contagion something 
terrible.  I just don't think it that contagious. 

Gloria

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 6, 2010, at 1:01 PM, Stephanie \(Merkel\) Sherry 
steph.she...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Hi Everyone,
 
 I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV.  My husband and I 
 recently 
 took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard and on our 
 porch.  We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative cats for 
 six 
 weeks now and love her dearly.
 
 At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two 
 different 
 snap tests.  She also recently tested positive on the IFA test.  Magic is 
 about 
 five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, growing and gaining 
 weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl.  For now, she lives in our 
 master bedroom separated from our other cats.
 
 One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her 
 with 
 our other cats if we had them all vaccinated.  She did tell me that the 
 vaccine 
 isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats.  Right now, I do not 
 feel 
 like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my FELV negative 
 to 
 cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her.  However, I 
 thought I 
 would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their experience has been.  
 The 
 vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see and I am waiting for 
 my 
 regular vet to come back to work later this week.
 
 Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living 
 in 
 our bedroom.  She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up for 
 us, it is something we could manage long term.  I struggle with what is fair 
 for 
 her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is limited or 
 to 
 find her a home where she can have more space and possibly time with her 
 owners.  If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still vaccinate our 
 other cats as a precaution?
 
 Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be 
 greatly 
 appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 Stephanie
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-06 Thread brenda_osbourne

Hi Stephanie,
I've just joined this group today so I'm not sure if I should be responding to 
this and I'm sure others may have varying opinions on this topic but for me and 
for my own cats, we allow our FeLV +ve kitty to interact with our other cats. 
She is not isolated at all nor did we isolate our previous FeLV +ve cat from 
the others. The others are vaccinated and we have 12 cats all together. They 
were all strays, some were feral and we try to provide them all with the best 
possible life that we can. I think the contagious aspect of FeLV is a bit over 
blown, although obviously not a disease that you want to take lightly. I've 
read differing views on how contagious it is. I've read that it is really only 
a concern if cats are fighting or engaging in mating behavior. I've also read 
that the virus is shed through saliva so even sharing the same water bowl can 
be a danger to the cats who are not FeLV. So I think you can find both ends of 
the spectrum in whatever you read. As with anything you should do what you feel 
is right, keeping in mind that not many people will want to take on a cat who 
is FeLV +ve so finding your new one a new home may not be that easy. Our 
previous cat who was FeLV positive lived with us for 6 years. He was feral so 
we cared for him while he lived outside for 7 years. One day he decided to come 
inside and he never left. We didn't have any problems with him spreading 
anything to the other cats and we're really not all that concerned about our 
newest kitty Eden spreading anything around. She loves the other cats and has 
great fun playing with two of our younger ones, who were feral alley kittens. I 
think it's a very personal choice but whatever you decided to do just know that 
we all do what we feel is right for our own pets and for our individual 
situations and there are no wrong choices when they are made with love and 
compassion. 
 
Brenda
 
 Date: Mon, 6 Dec 2010 11:01:24 -0800
 From: steph.she...@yahoo.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
 
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV.  My husband and I 
 recently 
 took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard and on our 
 porch.  We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative cats for 
 six 
 weeks now and love her dearly.
 
 At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two 
 different 
 snap tests.  She also recently tested positive on the IFA test.  Magic is 
 about 
 five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, growing and gaining 
 weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl.  For now, she lives in our 
 master bedroom separated from our other cats.
 
 One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her 
 with 
 our other cats if we had them all vaccinated.  She did tell me that the 
 vaccine 
 isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats.  Right now, I do not 
 feel 
 like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my FELV negative 
 to 
 cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her.  However, I 
 thought I 
 would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their experience has been.  
 The 
 vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see and I am waiting for 
 my 
 regular vet to come back to work later this week.
 
 Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living 
 in 
 our bedroom.  She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up for 
 us, it is something we could manage long term.  I struggle with what is fair 
 for 
 her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is limited or 
 to 
 find her a home where she can have more space and possibly time with her 
 owners.  If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still vaccinate our 
 other cats as a precaution?
 
 Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be 
 greatly 
 appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 Stephanie
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-06 Thread CATHERINE DIDONNA
Hi, my experience is  that very young kittens don't live long. But, other than 
that my cats are vaccinated, I have a few postive cats. I have water drinking 
fountains, and they are all together.Your kitten is strong, I think you should  
let her/him out with your other cats.Cathy 
--- On Mon, 12/6/10, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com wrote:


From: Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com
Subject: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:01 PM


Hi Everyone,

I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV.  My husband and I recently 
took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard and on our 
porch.  We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative cats for six 
weeks now and love her dearly.

At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two different 
snap tests.  She also recently tested positive on the IFA test.  Magic is about 
five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, growing and gaining 
weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl.  For now, she lives in our 
master bedroom separated from our other cats.

One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her with 
our other cats if we had them all vaccinated.  She did tell me that the vaccine 
isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats.  Right now, I do not feel 
like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my FELV negative to 
cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her.  However, I thought 
I 
would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their experience has been.  
The 
vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see and I am waiting for 
my 
regular vet to come back to work later this week.

Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living in 
our bedroom.  She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up for 
us, it is something we could manage long term.  I struggle with what is fair 
for 
her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is limited or to 
find her a home where she can have more space and possibly time with her 
owners.  If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still vaccinate our 
other cats as a precaution?

Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be 
greatly 
appreciated.

Thanks,
Stephanie


      
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-06 Thread Belinda Sauro
   I had Bailey+ intergrated with my other as many as 7 negatives and 
none of them ever became positive.  He was 5 months old when I found him 
and I had him separated but while I was at work come to find out my Joey 
was sneaking under the door of Bailey's room and playing with him and 
exposing all of his housemates, didn't make sense to keep him separate 
after I discovered that.  He lived with his housemates for over 10 
years, they were all vaccinated.  They slept, ate, played, groomed and 
on occasion had spats and scratched and bit each other, nothing serious 
but there was blood drawn on occasion from the scratches, no one ever 
became positive in those 10 years.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-06 Thread Sander, Sue
It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years.  Does
anyone else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life?  If so, please tell
me.  I want to have hope.

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From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative
Cats


I had Bailey+ intergrated with my other as many as 7 negatives and 
none of them ever became positive.  He was 5 months old when I found him

and I had him separated but while I was at work come to find out my Joey

was sneaking under the door of Bailey's room and playing with him and 
exposing all of his housemates, didn't make sense to keep him separate 
after I discovered that.  He lived with his housemates for over 10 
years, they were all vaccinated.  They slept, ate, played, groomed and 
on occasion had spats and scratched and bit each other, nothing serious 
but there was blood drawn on occasion from the scratches, no one ever 
became positive in those 10 years.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-06 Thread Bonnie Hogue

happiness is being owned by cats ...
Amen!
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From: Sander, Sue sue.san...@ssa.gov

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Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 1:58 PM
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It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years.  Does
anyone else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life?  If so, please tell
me.  I want to have hope.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative
Cats


   I had Bailey+ intergrated with my other as many as 7 negatives and
none of them ever became positive.  He was 5 months old when I found him

and I had him separated but while I was at work come to find out my Joey

was sneaking under the door of Bailey's room and playing with him and
exposing all of his housemates, didn't make sense to keep him separate
after I discovered that.  He lived with his housemates for over 10
years, they were all vaccinated.  They slept, ate, played, groomed and
on occasion had spats and scratched and bit each other, nothing serious
but there was blood drawn on occasion from the scratches, no one ever
became positive in those 10 years.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-06 Thread Melinda Kerr
I brought a very young stray kitten into my home at about 6 weeks.  His initial 
test was negative and he was vaccinated even though he was a bit too young for 
it.  I am in Japan and they have very different beliefs.  (Their first vaccine 
is a 5 in one and includes it.)  Anyway, I kept the kitten separate from my 
positive cat for about a week.  They continued to have separate bowls and 
litter pans and the kitten hid most of the time.  My vet believed that 
prolonged exposure was necessary and after vaccination he should be OK.

4 weeks later, he went to get his booster and retested a very faint positive.  

My Fuji, another stray who also tested negative initially was diagnosed when 
she was one year old.  I do not believe she got it from exposure as she stayed 
inside until she was 8 months old.  Then her outside time was extremely 
limited.  She did not have prolonged exposure to any other cats and did not get 
into any fights. It is my belief she got it from her mom and simply suppressed 
it until it came out later in life.  She was pretty sickly when we got her and 
we managed to almost entirely suppress her secondary virus issue.

To make a very long story even longer, I actually believe that the kitten was 
probably also from a positive mother.  Here in Japan, people buy pets from 
shops at a very high price!  Strays tend to be very common and are very sickly. 
 It is possible they pay so much for their pets in order to get healthy ones.  
While I could blame myself for making the baby sick, I try not to.  I know that 
as far as love, affection and vet care he is better off than he would have been 
with another family.  His mom and sister are still lose and homeless. 

All of this being said, everything that I read indicated that older cats tend 
to have a natural immunity.  If your other cats are older and you vaccinate 
them, it seems as though they would be OK.  

The bottom line is, you have to make your own decision and then be prepared to 
deal with the consequences.  We all love our little VooDoo kitten to pieces and 
he loves us right back.  He will have the best and longest life he can possibly 
have!  I do not regret for one minute taking him in, even as he sits in my lap 
with a terrible stuffed up nose and sneezing.  He has been to the vet twice and 
everything is being done to get him healthy!

You will get some very strong opinions on this one and most will actually be 
positive. 

You do what is best for you:)

Melinda, Fuji and VooDoo
On Dec 7, 2010, at 4:01 AM, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry wrote:

 Hi Everyone,
 
 I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV.  My husband and I 
 recently 
 took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard and on our 
 porch.  We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative cats for 
 six 
 weeks now and love her dearly.
 
 At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two 
 different 
 snap tests.  She also recently tested positive on the IFA test.  Magic is 
 about 
 five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active, growing and gaining 
 weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl.  For now, she lives in our 
 master bedroom separated from our other cats.
 
 One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her 
 with 
 our other cats if we had them all vaccinated.  She did tell me that the 
 vaccine 
 isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats.  Right now, I do not 
 feel 
 like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my FELV negative 
 to 
 cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her.  However, I 
 thought I 
 would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their experience has been.  
 The 
 vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see and I am waiting for 
 my 
 regular vet to come back to work later this week.
 
 Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living 
 in 
 our bedroom.  She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up for 
 us, it is something we could manage long term.  I struggle with what is fair 
 for 
 her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is limited or 
 to 
 find her a home where she can have more space and possibly time with her 
 owners.  If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still vaccinate our 
 other cats as a precaution?
 
 Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be 
 greatly 
 appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 Stephanie
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-06 Thread Christiane Biagi
My 3 neg cat have lived with Tucson, my pos cat, for most their lives and
she is 12 1/2 years old.  I also had another pos cat, Romeo, who I brought
in 2004 (adult cat)  until his death last year, they all lived together.
They share dishes, boxes, groom each other, occasionally nip each other,
sleep together and none of my neg have ever turned positive.  I personally
think that FELV is not as contagious as some folks make it out to be.   

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Stephanie (Merkel)
Sherry
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 2:01 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

Hi Everyone,

I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV.  My husband and I
recently took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our yard
and on our porch.  We've had her inside and separated from our FELV negative
cats for six weeks now and love her dearly.

At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested positive on two
different snap tests.  She also recently tested positive on the IFA test. 
Magic is about five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active,
growing and gaining weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl.  For
now, she lives in our master bedroom separated from our other cats.

One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to integrate her
with our other cats if we had them all vaccinated.  She did tell me that the
vaccine isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats.  Right now, I
do not feel like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to expose my
FELV negative to cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to her. 
However, I thought I would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their
experience has been.  The vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I
usually see and I am waiting for my regular vet to come back to work later
this week.

Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is currently living
in our bedroom.  She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not an ideal set-up
for us, it is something we could manage long term.  I struggle with what is
fair for her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her space is
limited or to find her a home where she can have more space and possibly
time with her owners.  If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we still
vaccinate our other cats as a precaution?

Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these issues would be
greatly appreciated.

Thanks,
Stephanie


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-06 Thread Christiane Biagi
Got my Tucson as a 6 week old kitten in 5/98 and she's still here, a chunky
17 lbs!  Brought my Romeo in 2/04 (stray I was feeding)  he was estimated
to be 4-5 at the time.  He died from lymphoma  last fall  was never sick
until the last 2 weeks of his life.  

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:58 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years.  Does anyone
else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life?  If so, please tell me.  I
want to have hope.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Belinda Sauro
Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats


I had Bailey+ intergrated with my other as many as 7 negatives and none
of them ever became positive.  He was 5 months old when I found him

and I had him separated but while I was at work come to find out my Joey

was sneaking under the door of Bailey's room and playing with him and
exposing all of his housemates, didn't make sense to keep him separate after
I discovered that.  He lived with his housemates for over 10 years, they
were all vaccinated.  They slept, ate, played, groomed and on occasion had
spats and scratched and bit each other, nothing serious but there was blood
drawn on occasion from the scratches, no one ever became positive in those
10 years.

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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-06 Thread Belinda Sauro

   That is on my checks too!

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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-06 Thread Sharyl
Stephanie, as others have already said it is a very personal decision.  IMO a 
lot depends on the ages of your negative cats.  If they are adults and 
vaccinated with the one month booster I'd have no issues with mixing.  Over the 
last 4 yrs I have rescued 10 FeLV+ kittens.  My negative cats were adults and 
current on their vaccine.  They played together, ate together and drank from 
the same water bowels with no problems.

From what I could tell the kittens all got FeLV from their Mommas.  I lost the 
last ones this summer.  They were 4 yrs old.  

I am now fostering 6 kittens.  Since kittens are more susceptible I will not 
take in any positive kitties.  

We each do what is best for our own situation.  What is important is to love 
them and provide a stress free environment for these special angels.
Sharyl

--- On Mon, 12/6/10, Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com wrote:

 From: Stephanie (Merkel) Sherry steph.she...@yahoo.com
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Monday, December 6, 2010, 2:01 PM
 Hi Everyone,
 
 I am new to this site and new to the world of FELV.  My
 husband and I recently 
 took in a stray kitten, Magic, who had been coming into our
 yard and on our 
 porch.  We've had her inside and separated from our FELV
 negative cats for six 
 weeks now and love her dearly.
 
 At her first vet appt about five week ago she tested
 positive on two different 
 snap tests.  She also recently tested positive on the IFA
 test.  Magic is about 
 five months old and is healthy (other than FELV), active,
 growing and gaining 
 weight, loves to play and is the sweetest girl.  For now,
 she lives in our 
 master bedroom separated from our other cats.
 
 One of the vets at my practice suggested it was possible to
 integrate her with 
 our other cats if we had them all vaccinated.  She did
 tell me that the vaccine 
 isn't 100% so there was some risk to our other cats. 
 Right now, I do not feel 
 like is the option for me as it doesn't seem fair to
 expose my FELV negative to 
 cats to the risk of the vaccine itself or exposure to
 her.  However, I thought I 
 would ask if anyone has gone this route and what their
 experience has been.  The 
 vet who suggested this to me isn't the vet I usually see
 and I am waiting for my 
 regular vet to come back to work later this week.
 
 Assuming we don't integrate her with the other cats, she is
 currently living in 
 our bedroom.  She doesn't seem unhappy and while it's not
 an ideal set-up for 
 us, it is something we could manage long term.  I struggle
 with what is fair for 
 her - to stay with us where we love her so much, but her
 space is limited or to 
 find her a home where she can have more space and possibly
 time with her 
 owners.  If she stays with us in our bedroom, should we
 still vaccinate our 
 other cats as a precaution?
 
 Any thoughts or experience anyone has on either of these
 issues would be greatly 
 appreciated.
 
 Thanks,
 Stephanie
 
 
       
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats

2010-12-06 Thread brenda_osbourne

Our kitty Scampi lived to be 13 years old with his FeLV. He was never sick in 
all the years we took care of him. He only became ill about 2 weeks prior to 
his passing away but even then he still loved to snooze in the sun whenever he 
could. There is always hope, sometimes it's just harder to find. 
 
Brenda
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Sander, Sue
 Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 4:58 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question About Inegrating Positive and Negative Cats
 
 It's so wonderful to know that Bailey lived for over 10 years. Does anyone
 else know of FEL+ who have lived a long life? If so, please tell me. I
 want to have hope.
 
  
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