Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-26 Thread MaiMaiPG
Don't know about garlic but onions can cause an irreversible anemia in  
cats and dogs.
On Mar 25, 2011, at 10:04 PM, dlg...@windstream.net dlg...@windstream.net 
 wrote:


I had always been told that yeast along with garlic and onions were  
not good for cats.

 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

www.swansonvitamins.com - great source for great prices
Brewer's Yeast tablets:
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/Search?keyword=Brewers+Yeast+tabletsdoSearch
=truentt=n=0ntk=Level1x=44y=12
Nutritional yeast flakes are very nutritious - great in cooking and
flavoring!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie  
Hogue

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

MMPG
I used to sprinkle brewer's yeast onto the dog and cat food years  
ago.  I
think it helped with fleas.  But lately (new cats) it isn't  
accepted as

well.
When we have movie night we make popcorn, put an olive oil/butter  
combo on


it (trying to reduce the butterfat) then put the brewer's yeast  
on.  Very
tasty.  This is for us humans, mind you.  The cats always try to  
lick out
the bowls, which I discourage because of the fat content.  So, if  
we can

find out who makes the tablet form, it might work better.
~Bonnie
- Original Message -
From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle


Please:  More information on Brewer's yeast on popcorn.  This is a  
new
one...type and amount?  Brewer's yeast worked wonders for Mai Mai  
and
Allie's (dogs) coats and I know it would be great for Copper and   
Thomas

Cougar and Bob the Dog.  Just figuring out how to present it is  the
issue.  I think it would be great for the ferals too.
On Mar 24, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Natalie
What kind of yeast tablets do you get?
My cats always try to lick the popcorn bowl when we're done...we  
put

brewer's yeast on our popcorn.
Thanks.
~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle


Yes, get some vitamin C crystals, and start with a small amount  
and

build up
so Amber doesn't get diarrhea.  Does she like yogurt?  If not,  
also  get



some
acidophilus/probiotic capsules, and mix powder into food. There  
are

also
some chewable vitamins for cats (ours aren't too keen on them)  
-  they

do,
however, love to chew on yeast tablets as treats!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of  
Jannes  Taylor

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

I will ask about that when I take her back to the vet. In the   
meantime,



are

there any supplements you recommend that I can purchase? Thanks!
Jannes





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 4:22:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

Vitamin C, B12 - my vet gives injections that we call the
cocktailworks wonders!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of  
Jannes  Taylor

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend?
Jannes





From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though.  
I  took

Dixie

Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed. She had no scar. Apparently  
scars  are

becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc. I was
convinced
that
she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my   
shoulder

and
yelled
in my ear. My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though  
they  were

very
sure
I was wasting my money. A couple of weeks later, one called with  
the

results.
Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male. My little  
darling  was

all
girl. Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life  
by  was of



the

same pine thicket that brought most of the cats in my life. She  
was

FeLV+
which
led me to this wonderful group.

All of this is to say, follow your instincts and knowledge of cats
before
you
have her spayed. FYI: I like colostrum (health food stores or  
the  local

farm
store--cheaper) for those I know are going to have any surgery  
and  try

to
give
it for a good while before. Most of the cats in my life are  
feral  and

they
have
their own thoughts about what

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-26 Thread Bonnie Hogue
Yes, I've heard that onions and garlic are not good for the cat.  Yeast has 
been advised to reduce fleas.  Guess the fleas don't like the vit. B or 
smell of the yeast.  I've never had a cat try to eat onions/garlic, but I've 
had them try to eat the yeast.  And the popcorn, which I doubt is good for 
them.

~B.
- Original Message - 
From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Friday, March 25, 2011 11:06 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle


Don't know about garlic but onions can cause an irreversible anemia in 
cats and dogs.
On Mar 25, 2011, at 10:04 PM, dlg...@windstream.net 
dlg...@windstream.net

 wrote:

I had always been told that yeast along with garlic and onions were  not 
good for cats.

 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

www.swansonvitamins.com - great source for great prices
Brewer's Yeast tablets:
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/Search?keyword=Brewers+Yeast+tabletsdoSearch
=truentt=n=0ntk=Level1x=44y=12
Nutritional yeast flakes are very nutritious - great in cooking and
flavoring!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie  Hogue
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

MMPG
I used to sprinkle brewer's yeast onto the dog and cat food years  ago. 
I

think it helped with fleas.  But lately (new cats) it isn't  accepted as
well.
When we have movie night we make popcorn, put an olive oil/butter 
combo on


it (trying to reduce the butterfat) then put the brewer's yeast  on. 
Very
tasty.  This is for us humans, mind you.  The cats always try to  lick 
out
the bowls, which I discourage because of the fat content.  So, if  we 
can

find out who makes the tablet form, it might work better.
~Bonnie
- Original Message -
From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle



Please:  More information on Brewer's yeast on popcorn.  This is a  new
one...type and amount?  Brewer's yeast worked wonders for Mai Mai  and
Allie's (dogs) coats and I know it would be great for Copper and 
Thomas

Cougar and Bob the Dog.  Just figuring out how to present it is  the
issue.  I think it would be great for the ferals too.
On Mar 24, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Natalie
What kind of yeast tablets do you get?
My cats always try to lick the popcorn bowl when we're done...we  put
brewer's yeast on our popcorn.
Thanks.
~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle



Yes, get some vitamin C crystals, and start with a small amount  and
build up
so Amber doesn't get diarrhea.  Does she like yogurt?  If not,  also 
get



some
acidophilus/probiotic capsules, and mix powder into food. There  are
also
some chewable vitamins for cats (ours aren't too keen on them)  - 
they

do,
however, love to chew on yeast tablets as treats!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of  Jannes 
Taylor

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

I will ask about that when I take her back to the vet. In the 
meantime,



are

there any supplements you recommend that I can purchase? Thanks!
Jannes





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 4:22:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

Vitamin C, B12 - my vet gives injections that we call the
cocktailworks wonders!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of  Jannes 
Taylor

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend?
Jannes





From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though.  I 
took

Dixie

Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed. She had no scar. Apparently  scars 
are

becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc. I was
convinced
that
she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my 
shoulder

and
yelled
in my ear. My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though  they 
were

very
sure
I was wasting my money. A couple of weeks later, one called with  the
results.
Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male. My little  darling 
was

all
girl. Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life  by 
was of



the

same pine thicket

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-25 Thread dlgegg
I had always been told that yeast along with garlic and onions were not good 
for cats.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 www.swansonvitamins.com - great source for great prices
 Brewer's Yeast tablets:
 http://www.swansonvitamins.com/Search?keyword=Brewers+Yeast+tabletsdoSearch
 =truentt=n=0ntk=Level1x=44y=12 
 Nutritional yeast flakes are very nutritious - great in cooking and
 flavoring!  
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:30 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle
 
 MMPG
 I used to sprinkle brewer's yeast onto the dog and cat food years ago.  I 
 think it helped with fleas.  But lately (new cats) it isn't accepted as 
 well.
 When we have movie night we make popcorn, put an olive oil/butter combo on
 
 it (trying to reduce the butterfat) then put the brewer's yeast on.  Very 
 tasty.  This is for us humans, mind you.  The cats always try to lick out 
 the bowls, which I discourage because of the fat content.  So, if we can 
 find out who makes the tablet form, it might work better.
 ~Bonnie
 - Original Message - 
 From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:14 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle
 
 
  Please:  More information on Brewer's yeast on popcorn.  This is a new 
  one...type and amount?  Brewer's yeast worked wonders for Mai Mai and 
  Allie's (dogs) coats and I know it would be great for Copper and  Thomas 
  Cougar and Bob the Dog.  Just figuring out how to present it is  the 
  issue.  I think it would be great for the ferals too.
  On Mar 24, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:
 
  Natalie
  What kind of yeast tablets do you get?
  My cats always try to lick the popcorn bowl when we're done...we put 
  brewer's yeast on our popcorn.
  Thanks.
  ~Bonnie
  - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:48 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle
 
 
  Yes, get some vitamin C crystals, and start with a small amount and 
  build up
  so Amber doesn't get diarrhea.  Does she like yogurt?  If not, also  get
 
  some
  acidophilus/probiotic capsules, and mix powder into food. There are 
  also
  some chewable vitamins for cats (ours aren't too keen on them) -  they 
  do,
  however, love to chew on yeast tablets as treats!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes  Taylor
  Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:28 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle
 
  I will ask about that when I take her back to the vet. In the  meantime,
 
  are
 
  there any supplements you recommend that I can purchase? Thanks!
  Jannes
 
 
 
 
  
  From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 4:22:22 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle
 
  Vitamin C, B12 - my vet gives injections that we call the
  cocktailworks wonders!
 
  -Original Message-
  From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
  [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes  Taylor
  Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:37 PM
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle
 
  What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend?
  Jannes
 
 
 
 
  
  From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
  To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
  Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM
  Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle
 
  There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though. I  took 
  Dixie
 
  Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed. She had no scar. Apparently scars  are
  becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc. I was 
  convinced
  that
  she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my  shoulder 
  and
  yelled
  in my ear. My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though they  were 
  very
  sure
  I was wasting my money. A couple of weeks later, one called with the
  results.
  Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male. My little darling  was 
  all
  girl. Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life by  was of
 
  the
 
  same pine thicket that brought most of the cats in my life. She was 
  FeLV+
  which
  led me to this wonderful group.
 
  All of this is to say, follow your instincts and knowledge of cats 
  before
  you
  have her spayed. FYI: I like colostrum (health food stores or the  local
  farm
  store--cheaper) for those I know are going to have any surgery and  try 
  to
  give
  it for a good while before. Most of the cats in my life are feral  and 
  they
  have
  their own thoughts about what

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
A veterinarian can probably be able to tell by palpating her stomach...I've
had cats that were never very obvious, but when spayed, it was noticeable
that they were in heat.
Because Amber is FeLV+, build up her immune system with some good vitamin
supplements before she is spayed.  BTW, when she's shaved, a vet can also
see if there's a scar!  I got a cat off death row in NYC, and we don't know
whether she has been spayed. Since I have no intact males, there's no danger
of pregnancy - we will just wait and see if she goes into heat, otherwise,
we can shave and check at any timeI wouldn't worry too much - also check
for nipple size

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

This Sunday will be one month since I rescued Amber. I have no idea if she
has 
ever been spayed or not. I am guessing not...
If she hasn't, should she not be coming in heat soon? I just hope and pray
she 
is not pregnant. 

If she does come in heat, I will get her spayed afterwards. Just waiting to
see. 

As always, thank you everyone for your advice!
 Jannes 


  
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread MaiMaiPG
There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though.  I took  
Dixie Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed.  She had no scar.  Apparently  
scars are becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc.  I  
was convinced that she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel  
sat on my shoulder and yelled in my ear.  My wonderful vets ran the  
blood test even though they were very sure I was wasting my money.  A  
couple of weeks later, one called with the results.  Either Dixie had  
been spayed or she was a male.  My little darling was all girl.  Dixie  
was apparently a throw-away who came into my life by was of the same  
pine thicket that brought most of the cats in my life.  She was FeLV+  
which led me to this wonderful group.


All of this is to say, follow your instincts and knowledge of cats  
before you have her spayed.  FYI:  I like colostrum (health food  
stores or the local farm store--cheaper) for those I know are going to  
have any surgery and try to give it for a good while before.  Most of  
the cats in my life are feral and they have their own thoughts about  
what they will and will not consume.  Arnica helps healing...I use  
it frequently myself and swear by it.



On Mar 24, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Natalie wrote:

A veterinarian can probably be able to tell by palpating her  
stomach...I've
had cats that were never very obvious, but when spayed, it was  
noticeable

that they were in heat.
Because Amber is FeLV+, build up her immune system with some good  
vitamin
supplements before she is spayed.  BTW, when she's shaved, a vet can  
also
see if there's a scar!  I got a cat off death row in NYC, and we  
don't know
whether she has been spayed. Since I have no intact males, there's  
no danger
of pregnancy - we will just wait and see if she goes into heat,  
otherwise,
we can shave and check at any timeI wouldn't worry too much -  
also check

for nipple size

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes  
Taylor

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

This Sunday will be one month since I rescued Amber. I have no idea  
if she

has
ever been spayed or not. I am guessing not...
If she hasn't, should she not be coming in heat soon? I just hope  
and pray

she
is not pregnant.

If she does come in heat, I will get her spayed afterwards. Just  
waiting to

see.

As always, thank you everyone for your advice!
 Jannes



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Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Jannes Taylor
What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend?
 Jannes 





From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though.  I took Dixie 
Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed.  She had no scar.  Apparently scars are 
becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc.  I was convinced that 
she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my shoulder and yelled 
in my ear.  My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though they were very 
sure 
I was wasting my money.  A couple of weeks later, one called with the results.  
Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male.  My little darling was all 
girl.  Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life by was of the 
same pine thicket that brought most of the cats in my life.  She was FeLV+ 
which 
led me to this wonderful group.

All of this is to say, follow your instincts and knowledge of cats before you 
have her spayed.  FYI:  I like colostrum (health food stores or the local farm 
store--cheaper) for those I know are going to have any surgery and try to give 
it for a good while before.  Most of the cats in my life are feral and they 
have 
their own thoughts about what they will and will not consume.  Arnica helps 
healing...I use it frequently myself and swear by it.


On Mar 24, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Natalie wrote:

 A veterinarian can probably be able to tell by palpating her stomach...I've
 had cats that were never very obvious, but when spayed, it was noticeable
 that they were in heat.
 Because Amber is FeLV+, build up her immune system with some good vitamin
 supplements before she is spayed.  BTW, when she's shaved, a vet can also
 see if there's a scar!  I got a cat off death row in NYC, and we don't know
 whether she has been spayed. Since I have no intact males, there's no danger
 of pregnancy - we will just wait and see if she goes into heat, otherwise,
 we can shave and check at any timeI wouldn't worry too much - also check
 for nipple size
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:12 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle
 
 This Sunday will be one month since I rescued Amber. I have no idea if she
 has
 ever been spayed or not. I am guessing not...
 If she hasn't, should she not be coming in heat soon? I just hope and pray
 she
 is not pregnant.
 
 If she does come in heat, I will get her spayed afterwards. Just waiting to
 see.
 
 As always, thank you everyone for your advice!
  Jannes
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
Vitamin C, B12 - my vet gives injections that we call the
cocktailworks wonders!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend?
 Jannes 





From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though.  I took Dixie

Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed.  She had no scar.  Apparently scars are 
becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc.  I was convinced
that 
she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my shoulder and
yelled 
in my ear.  My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though they were very
sure 
I was wasting my money.  A couple of weeks later, one called with the
results.  
Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male.  My little darling was all 
girl.  Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life by was of the

same pine thicket that brought most of the cats in my life.  She was FeLV+
which 
led me to this wonderful group.

All of this is to say, follow your instincts and knowledge of cats before
you 
have her spayed.  FYI:  I like colostrum (health food stores or the local
farm 
store--cheaper) for those I know are going to have any surgery and try to
give 
it for a good while before.  Most of the cats in my life are feral and they
have 
their own thoughts about what they will and will not consume.  Arnica helps 
healing...I use it frequently myself and swear by it.


On Mar 24, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Natalie wrote:

 A veterinarian can probably be able to tell by palpating her
stomach...I've
 had cats that were never very obvious, but when spayed, it was noticeable
 that they were in heat.
 Because Amber is FeLV+, build up her immune system with some good vitamin
 supplements before she is spayed.  BTW, when she's shaved, a vet can also
 see if there's a scar!  I got a cat off death row in NYC, and we don't
know
 whether she has been spayed. Since I have no intact males, there's no
danger
 of pregnancy - we will just wait and see if she goes into heat, otherwise,
 we can shave and check at any timeI wouldn't worry too much - also
check
 for nipple size
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:12 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle
 
 This Sunday will be one month since I rescued Amber. I have no idea if she
 has
 ever been spayed or not. I am guessing not...
 If she hasn't, should she not be coming in heat soon? I just hope and pray
 she
 is not pregnant.
 
 If she does come in heat, I will get her spayed afterwards. Just waiting
to
 see.
 
 As always, thank you everyone for your advice!
  Jannes
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Jannes Taylor
 I will ask about that when I take her back to the vet. In the meantime, are 
there any supplements you recommend that I can purchase? Thanks!
 Jannes 





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 4:22:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

Vitamin C, B12 - my vet gives injections that we call the
cocktailworks wonders!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend?
 Jannes 





From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though.  I took Dixie

Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed.  She had no scar.  Apparently scars are 
becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc.  I was convinced
that 
she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my shoulder and
yelled 
in my ear.  My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though they were very
sure 
I was wasting my money.  A couple of weeks later, one called with the
results.  
Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male.  My little darling was all 
girl.  Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life by was of the

same pine thicket that brought most of the cats in my life.  She was FeLV+
which 
led me to this wonderful group.

All of this is to say, follow your instincts and knowledge of cats before
you 
have her spayed.  FYI:  I like colostrum (health food stores or the local
farm 
store--cheaper) for those I know are going to have any surgery and try to
give 
it for a good while before.  Most of the cats in my life are feral and they
have 
their own thoughts about what they will and will not consume.  Arnica helps 
healing...I use it frequently myself and swear by it.


On Mar 24, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Natalie wrote:

 A veterinarian can probably be able to tell by palpating her
stomach...I've
 had cats that were never very obvious, but when spayed, it was noticeable
 that they were in heat.
 Because Amber is FeLV+, build up her immune system with some good vitamin
 supplements before she is spayed.  BTW, when she's shaved, a vet can also
 see if there's a scar!  I got a cat off death row in NYC, and we don't
know
 whether she has been spayed. Since I have no intact males, there's no
danger
 of pregnancy - we will just wait and see if she goes into heat, otherwise,
 we can shave and check at any timeI wouldn't worry too much - also
check
 for nipple size
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:12 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle
 
 This Sunday will be one month since I rescued Amber. I have no idea if she
 has
 ever been spayed or not. I am guessing not...
 If she hasn't, should she not be coming in heat soon? I just hope and pray
 she
 is not pregnant.
 
 If she does come in heat, I will get her spayed afterwards. Just waiting
to
 see.
 
 As always, thank you everyone for your advice!
  Jannes
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
I would say leave well enough alone unless you are afraid that she may get
pregnant...let her recuperate and then have the vet check her.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of MaiMaiPG
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:57 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though.  I took  
Dixie Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed.  She had no scar.  Apparently  
scars are becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc.  I  
was convinced that she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel  
sat on my shoulder and yelled in my ear.  My wonderful vets ran the  
blood test even though they were very sure I was wasting my money.  A  
couple of weeks later, one called with the results.  Either Dixie had  
been spayed or she was a male.  My little darling was all girl.  Dixie  
was apparently a throw-away who came into my life by was of the same  
pine thicket that brought most of the cats in my life.  She was FeLV+  
which led me to this wonderful group.

All of this is to say, follow your instincts and knowledge of cats  
before you have her spayed.  FYI:  I like colostrum (health food  
stores or the local farm store--cheaper) for those I know are going to  
have any surgery and try to give it for a good while before.  Most of  
the cats in my life are feral and they have their own thoughts about  
what they will and will not consume.  Arnica helps healing...I use  
it frequently myself and swear by it.


On Mar 24, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Natalie wrote:

 A veterinarian can probably be able to tell by palpating her  
 stomach...I've
 had cats that were never very obvious, but when spayed, it was  
 noticeable
 that they were in heat.
 Because Amber is FeLV+, build up her immune system with some good  
 vitamin
 supplements before she is spayed.  BTW, when she's shaved, a vet can  
 also
 see if there's a scar!  I got a cat off death row in NYC, and we  
 don't know
 whether she has been spayed. Since I have no intact males, there's  
 no danger
 of pregnancy - we will just wait and see if she goes into heat,  
 otherwise,
 we can shave and check at any timeI wouldn't worry too much -  
 also check
 for nipple size

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes  
 Taylor
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:12 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

 This Sunday will be one month since I rescued Amber. I have no idea  
 if she
 has
 ever been spayed or not. I am guessing not...
 If she hasn't, should she not be coming in heat soon? I just hope  
 and pray
 she
 is not pregnant.

 If she does come in heat, I will get her spayed afterwards. Just  
 waiting to
 see.

 As always, thank you everyone for your advice!
  Jannes



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Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread MaiMaiPG
Colostrum...works wonders for critters and people.  If you have access  
to a holistic vet, ask her/him for advise.

On Mar 24, 2011, at 4:28 PM, Jannes Taylor wrote:

I will ask about that when I take her back to the vet. In the  
meantime, are

there any supplements you recommend that I can purchase? Thanks!
Jannes





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 4:22:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

Vitamin C, B12 - my vet gives injections that we call the
cocktailworks wonders!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes  
Taylor

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend?
Jannes





From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though.  I  
took Dixie


Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed.  She had no scar.  Apparently scars  
are
becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc.  I was  
convinced

that
she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my shoulder  
and

yelled
in my ear.  My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though they  
were very

sure
I was wasting my money.  A couple of weeks later, one called with the
results.
Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male.  My little darling  
was all
girl.  Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life by  
was of the


same pine thicket that brought most of the cats in my life.  She was  
FeLV+

which
led me to this wonderful group.

All of this is to say, follow your instincts and knowledge of cats  
before

you
have her spayed.  FYI:  I like colostrum (health food stores or the  
local

farm
store--cheaper) for those I know are going to have any surgery and  
try to

give
it for a good while before.  Most of the cats in my life are feral  
and they

have
their own thoughts about what they will and will not consume.   
Arnica helps

healing...I use it frequently myself and swear by it.


On Mar 24, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Natalie wrote:


A veterinarian can probably be able to tell by palpating her

stomach...I've
had cats that were never very obvious, but when spayed, it was  
noticeable

that they were in heat.
Because Amber is FeLV+, build up her immune system with some good  
vitamin
supplements before she is spayed.  BTW, when she's shaved, a vet  
can also
see if there's a scar!  I got a cat off death row in NYC, and we  
don't

know

whether she has been spayed. Since I have no intact males, there's no

danger
of pregnancy - we will just wait and see if she goes into heat,  
otherwise,
we can shave and check at any timeI wouldn't worry too much -  
also

check

for nipple size

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes  
Taylor

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

This Sunday will be one month since I rescued Amber. I have no idea  
if she

has
ever been spayed or not. I am guessing not...
If she hasn't, should she not be coming in heat soon? I just hope  
and pray

she
is not pregnant.

If she does come in heat, I will get her spayed afterwards. Just  
waiting

to

see.

As always, thank you everyone for your advice!
 Jannes



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Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
Yes, get some vitamin C crystals, and start with a small amount and build up
so Amber doesn't get diarrhea.  Does she like yogurt?  If not, also get some
acidophilus/probiotic capsules, and mix powder into food. There are also
some chewable vitamins for cats (ours aren't too keen on them) - they do,
however, love to chew on yeast tablets as treats!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

 I will ask about that when I take her back to the vet. In the meantime, are

there any supplements you recommend that I can purchase? Thanks!
 Jannes 





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 4:22:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

Vitamin C, B12 - my vet gives injections that we call the
cocktailworks wonders!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend?
 Jannes 





From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though.  I took Dixie

Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed.  She had no scar.  Apparently scars are 
becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc.  I was convinced
that 
she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my shoulder and
yelled 
in my ear.  My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though they were very
sure 
I was wasting my money.  A couple of weeks later, one called with the
results.  
Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male.  My little darling was all 
girl.  Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life by was of the

same pine thicket that brought most of the cats in my life.  She was FeLV+
which 
led me to this wonderful group.

All of this is to say, follow your instincts and knowledge of cats before
you 
have her spayed.  FYI:  I like colostrum (health food stores or the local
farm 
store--cheaper) for those I know are going to have any surgery and try to
give 
it for a good while before.  Most of the cats in my life are feral and they
have 
their own thoughts about what they will and will not consume.  Arnica helps 
healing...I use it frequently myself and swear by it.


On Mar 24, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Natalie wrote:

 A veterinarian can probably be able to tell by palpating her
stomach...I've
 had cats that were never very obvious, but when spayed, it was noticeable
 that they were in heat.
 Because Amber is FeLV+, build up her immune system with some good vitamin
 supplements before she is spayed.  BTW, when she's shaved, a vet can also
 see if there's a scar!  I got a cat off death row in NYC, and we don't
know
 whether she has been spayed. Since I have no intact males, there's no
danger
 of pregnancy - we will just wait and see if she goes into heat, otherwise,
 we can shave and check at any timeI wouldn't worry too much - also
check
 for nipple size
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:12 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle
 
 This Sunday will be one month since I rescued Amber. I have no idea if she
 has
 ever been spayed or not. I am guessing not...
 If she hasn't, should she not be coming in heat soon? I just hope and pray
 she
 is not pregnant.
 
 If she does come in heat, I will get her spayed afterwards. Just waiting
to
 see.
 
 As always, thank you everyone for your advice!
  Jannes
 
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Bonnie Hogue

Natalie
What kind of yeast tablets do you get?
My cats always try to lick the popcorn bowl when we're done...we put 
brewer's yeast on our popcorn.

Thanks.
~Bonnie
- Original Message - 
From: Natalie at...@optonline.net

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle


Yes, get some vitamin C crystals, and start with a small amount and build 
up
so Amber doesn't get diarrhea.  Does she like yogurt?  If not, also get 
some

acidophilus/probiotic capsules, and mix powder into food. There are also
some chewable vitamins for cats (ours aren't too keen on them) - they do,
however, love to chew on yeast tablets as treats!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

I will ask about that when I take her back to the vet. In the meantime, 
are


there any supplements you recommend that I can purchase? Thanks!
Jannes





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 4:22:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

Vitamin C, B12 - my vet gives injections that we call the
cocktailworks wonders!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend?
Jannes





From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though. I took 
Dixie


Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed. She had no scar. Apparently scars are
becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc. I was convinced
that
she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my shoulder and
yelled
in my ear. My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though they were very
sure
I was wasting my money. A couple of weeks later, one called with the
results.
Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male. My little darling was all
girl. Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life by was of 
the


same pine thicket that brought most of the cats in my life. She was FeLV+
which
led me to this wonderful group.

All of this is to say, follow your instincts and knowledge of cats before
you
have her spayed. FYI: I like colostrum (health food stores or the local
farm
store--cheaper) for those I know are going to have any surgery and try to
give
it for a good while before. Most of the cats in my life are feral and they
have
their own thoughts about what they will and will not consume. Arnica helps
healing...I use it frequently myself and swear by it.


On Mar 24, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Natalie wrote:


A veterinarian can probably be able to tell by palpating her

stomach...I've

had cats that were never very obvious, but when spayed, it was noticeable
that they were in heat.
Because Amber is FeLV+, build up her immune system with some good vitamin
supplements before she is spayed. BTW, when she's shaved, a vet can also
see if there's a scar! I got a cat off death row in NYC, and we don't

know

whether she has been spayed. Since I have no intact males, there's no

danger
of pregnancy - we will just wait and see if she goes into heat, 
otherwise,

we can shave and check at any timeI wouldn't worry too much - also

check

for nipple size

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

This Sunday will be one month since I rescued Amber. I have no idea if 
she

has
ever been spayed or not. I am guessing not...
If she hasn't, should she not be coming in heat soon? I just hope and 
pray

she
is not pregnant.

If she does come in heat, I will get her spayed afterwards. Just waiting

to

see.

As always, thank you everyone for your advice!
Jannes



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Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread MaiMaiPG
Please:  More information on Brewer's yeast on popcorn.  This is a new  
one...type and amount?  Brewer's yeast worked wonders for Mai Mai and  
Allie's (dogs) coats and I know it would be great for Copper and  
Thomas Cougar and Bob the Dog.  Just figuring out how to present it is  
the issue.  I think it would be great for the ferals too.

On Mar 24, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Natalie
What kind of yeast tablets do you get?
My cats always try to lick the popcorn bowl when we're done...we put  
brewer's yeast on our popcorn.

Thanks.
~Bonnie
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle


Yes, get some vitamin C crystals, and start with a small amount and  
build up
so Amber doesn't get diarrhea.  Does she like yogurt?  If not, also  
get some
acidophilus/probiotic capsules, and mix powder into food. There are  
also
some chewable vitamins for cats (ours aren't too keen on them) -  
they do,

however, love to chew on yeast tablets as treats!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes  
Taylor

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

I will ask about that when I take her back to the vet. In the  
meantime, are


there any supplements you recommend that I can purchase? Thanks!
Jannes





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 4:22:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

Vitamin C, B12 - my vet gives injections that we call the
cocktailworks wonders!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes  
Taylor

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend?
Jannes





From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though. I  
took Dixie


Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed. She had no scar. Apparently scars  
are
becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc. I was  
convinced

that
she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my  
shoulder and

yelled
in my ear. My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though they  
were very

sure
I was wasting my money. A couple of weeks later, one called with the
results.
Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male. My little darling  
was all
girl. Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life by  
was of the


same pine thicket that brought most of the cats in my life. She was  
FeLV+

which
led me to this wonderful group.

All of this is to say, follow your instincts and knowledge of cats  
before

you
have her spayed. FYI: I like colostrum (health food stores or the  
local

farm
store--cheaper) for those I know are going to have any surgery and  
try to

give
it for a good while before. Most of the cats in my life are feral  
and they

have
their own thoughts about what they will and will not consume.  
Arnica helps

healing...I use it frequently myself and swear by it.


On Mar 24, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Natalie wrote:


A veterinarian can probably be able to tell by palpating her

stomach...I've
had cats that were never very obvious, but when spayed, it was  
noticeable

that they were in heat.
Because Amber is FeLV+, build up her immune system with some good  
vitamin
supplements before she is spayed. BTW, when she's shaved, a vet  
can also
see if there's a scar! I got a cat off death row in NYC, and we  
don't

know
whether she has been spayed. Since I have no intact males, there's  
no

danger
of pregnancy - we will just wait and see if she goes into heat,  
otherwise,
we can shave and check at any timeI wouldn't worry too much -  
also

check

for nipple size

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes  
Taylor

Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

This Sunday will be one month since I rescued Amber. I have no  
idea if she

has
ever been spayed or not. I am guessing not...
If she hasn't, should she not be coming in heat soon? I just hope  
and pray

she
is not pregnant.

If she does come in heat, I will get her spayed afterwards. Just  
waiting

to

see.

As always, thank you everyone for your advice!
Jannes



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Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Bonnie Hogue

MMPG
I used to sprinkle brewer's yeast onto the dog and cat food years ago.  I 
think it helped with fleas.  But lately (new cats) it isn't accepted as 
well.
When we have movie night we make popcorn, put an olive oil/butter combo on 
it (trying to reduce the butterfat) then put the brewer's yeast on.  Very 
tasty.  This is for us humans, mind you.  The cats always try to lick out 
the bowls, which I discourage because of the fat content.  So, if we can 
find out who makes the tablet form, it might work better.

~Bonnie
- Original Message - 
From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com

To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle


Please:  More information on Brewer's yeast on popcorn.  This is a new 
one...type and amount?  Brewer's yeast worked wonders for Mai Mai and 
Allie's (dogs) coats and I know it would be great for Copper and  Thomas 
Cougar and Bob the Dog.  Just figuring out how to present it is  the 
issue.  I think it would be great for the ferals too.

On Mar 24, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:


Natalie
What kind of yeast tablets do you get?
My cats always try to lick the popcorn bowl when we're done...we put 
brewer's yeast on our popcorn.

Thanks.
~Bonnie
- Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle


Yes, get some vitamin C crystals, and start with a small amount and 
build up
so Amber doesn't get diarrhea.  Does she like yogurt?  If not, also  get 
some
acidophilus/probiotic capsules, and mix powder into food. There are 
also
some chewable vitamins for cats (ours aren't too keen on them) -  they 
do,

however, love to chew on yeast tablets as treats!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes  Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:28 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

I will ask about that when I take her back to the vet. In the  meantime, 
are


there any supplements you recommend that I can purchase? Thanks!
Jannes





From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 4:22:22 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

Vitamin C, B12 - my vet gives injections that we call the
cocktailworks wonders!

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes  Taylor
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:37 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend?
Jannes





From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though. I  took 
Dixie


Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed. She had no scar. Apparently scars  are
becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc. I was 
convinced

that
she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my  shoulder 
and

yelled
in my ear. My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though they  were 
very

sure
I was wasting my money. A couple of weeks later, one called with the
results.
Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male. My little darling  was 
all
girl. Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life by  was of 
the


same pine thicket that brought most of the cats in my life. She was 
FeLV+

which
led me to this wonderful group.

All of this is to say, follow your instincts and knowledge of cats 
before

you
have her spayed. FYI: I like colostrum (health food stores or the  local
farm
store--cheaper) for those I know are going to have any surgery and  try 
to

give
it for a good while before. Most of the cats in my life are feral  and 
they

have
their own thoughts about what they will and will not consume.  Arnica 
helps

healing...I use it frequently myself and swear by it.


On Mar 24, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Natalie wrote:


A veterinarian can probably be able to tell by palpating her

stomach...I've
had cats that were never very obvious, but when spayed, it was 
noticeable

that they were in heat.
Because Amber is FeLV+, build up her immune system with some good 
vitamin
supplements before she is spayed. BTW, when she's shaved, a vet  can 
also

see if there's a scar! I got a cat off death row in NYC, and we  don't

know

whether she has been spayed. Since I have no intact males, there's  no

danger
of pregnancy - we will just wait and see if she goes into heat, 
otherwise,

we can shave and check at any timeI wouldn't worry too much -  also

check

for nipple size

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org

Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

2011-03-24 Thread Natalie
www.swansonvitamins.com - great source for great prices
Brewer's Yeast tablets:
http://www.swansonvitamins.com/Search?keyword=Brewers+Yeast+tabletsdoSearch
=truentt=n=0ntk=Level1x=44y=12 
Nutritional yeast flakes are very nutritious - great in cooking and
flavoring!  

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Bonnie Hogue
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 9:30 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

MMPG
I used to sprinkle brewer's yeast onto the dog and cat food years ago.  I 
think it helped with fleas.  But lately (new cats) it isn't accepted as 
well.
When we have movie night we make popcorn, put an olive oil/butter combo on

it (trying to reduce the butterfat) then put the brewer's yeast on.  Very 
tasty.  This is for us humans, mind you.  The cats always try to lick out 
the bowls, which I discourage because of the fat content.  So, if we can 
find out who makes the tablet form, it might work better.
~Bonnie
- Original Message - 
From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 3:14 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle


 Please:  More information on Brewer's yeast on popcorn.  This is a new 
 one...type and amount?  Brewer's yeast worked wonders for Mai Mai and 
 Allie's (dogs) coats and I know it would be great for Copper and  Thomas 
 Cougar and Bob the Dog.  Just figuring out how to present it is  the 
 issue.  I think it would be great for the ferals too.
 On Mar 24, 2011, at 4:58 PM, Bonnie Hogue wrote:

 Natalie
 What kind of yeast tablets do you get?
 My cats always try to lick the popcorn bowl when we're done...we put 
 brewer's yeast on our popcorn.
 Thanks.
 ~Bonnie
 - Original Message - From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 2:48 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle


 Yes, get some vitamin C crystals, and start with a small amount and 
 build up
 so Amber doesn't get diarrhea.  Does she like yogurt?  If not, also  get

 some
 acidophilus/probiotic capsules, and mix powder into food. There are 
 also
 some chewable vitamins for cats (ours aren't too keen on them) -  they 
 do,
 however, love to chew on yeast tablets as treats!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes  Taylor
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 5:28 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

 I will ask about that when I take her back to the vet. In the  meantime,

 are

 there any supplements you recommend that I can purchase? Thanks!
 Jannes




 
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 4:22:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

 Vitamin C, B12 - my vet gives injections that we call the
 cocktailworks wonders!

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Jannes  Taylor
 Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2011 4:37 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

 What vitamin supplement do you guys recommend?
 Jannes




 
 From: MaiMaiPG maima...@gmail.com
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Sent: Thu, March 24, 2011 2:56:44 PM
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Question re heat cycle

 There are blood tests that can be run tooexpensive though. I  took 
 Dixie

 Louise Doodle Katt to be spayed. She had no scar. Apparently scars  are
 becoming harder to see with self-absorbing stitches etc. I was 
 convinced
 that
 she had been spayed.not sure why but an angel sat on my  shoulder 
 and
 yelled
 in my ear. My wonderful vets ran the blood test even though they  were 
 very
 sure
 I was wasting my money. A couple of weeks later, one called with the
 results.
 Either Dixie had been spayed or she was a male. My little darling  was 
 all
 girl. Dixie was apparently a throw-away who came into my life by  was of

 the

 same pine thicket that brought most of the cats in my life. She was 
 FeLV+
 which
 led me to this wonderful group.

 All of this is to say, follow your instincts and knowledge of cats 
 before
 you
 have her spayed. FYI: I like colostrum (health food stores or the  local
 farm
 store--cheaper) for those I know are going to have any surgery and  try 
 to
 give
 it for a good while before. Most of the cats in my life are feral  and 
 they
 have
 their own thoughts about what they will and will not consume.  Arnica 
 helps
 healing...I use it frequently myself and swear by it.


 On Mar 24, 2011, at 2:19 PM, Natalie wrote:

 A veterinarian can probably be able to tell by palpating her
 stomach...I've
 had cats that were never very obvious, but when spayed