Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/WHAT IS STOMATITIS? MY FELV CAT IS FINICKY

2012-08-24 Thread dot winkler


Hi  Can you all tell me what the stomatitis thing is. I have been reading some 
of your mail.  My felv pos cat has been finicky the past month.  Is this one of 
the symptoms of the disease progressing?  Asked one vet and he said he didn't 
think so.  This was a travelling vet I had to use recently for one of my other 
cats who I could not get in the carrying case.  Sorry for sounding nieve about 
this but it is all new to me.  Chlor felv is a year and a half and a little on 
the small side and looks thin to me lately.  Dotty


 From: Kathryn Hargreaves khargrea...@gmail.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Thursday, August 23, 2012 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis
 

Holistic Stomatitis Protocol

Note that holistic approaches take longer than do allopathic ones.   These the 
supplements we've been using, but it doesn't mean some aren't optional.  What 
seemed to turn things around was one course of antibiotics along with Coptis 
Purge Fire.  You may have to continue with Coptis Purge Fire forever.   We've 
just gotten rid of the stomatitis symptoms and have not tried stopping the 
supplements.   It's better than extractions, which some say only work 50% of 
the time, and are expensive and invasive to boot.


Supplements
Health Concerns  Coptis Purge Fire (2 tablets if 1 doesn't work)
CoQ10  30mg (Dr. Clark)
Vitamin A  25000 IU (Metagenics Mycelized Drops)
Vitamin E (dry, no soy)  200 IU (may be optional)
Lysine  500mg
Standard Process Whole Body Support  1/2 to 1 tablet
Standard Process Immune Support  1 tablet
Tumeric  450mg   1/2 capsule  

Can also try:
Colostrum 100mg / Lactoferrin 10mg (separate from food)


Palliative Homeopathy
(as opposed to Classical---not really recommended, but here for completeness)
Mercurius 30C


Meds
Antibiotics if really, really bad infections.  Can do it once to get things to 
a level at which the cat can recover with supplements.  Use probiotics 
separately (that is, at least an hour apart) for stomach flora.


Cleanings
Non-anesthetic sonic cleanings to keep gums clean.  In Los Angeles, Kim Haba is 
an excellent dental tech (see below) who can do such cleanings.  Don't feed 
ground bones if they are getting caught in any gum pockets; use calcium 
carbonate supplments instead to balance the Ca:Phos ratio (about 1400 mg per 
pound of ground meat).


Topical
Oxyfresh in the water.


Pus in gums: Myrhh. Make a dilution by adding 1 teaspoon of the tincture (the 
alcoholic extract) to a cup of water. Gently apply this to the gums once or 
twice a day. Either use a soft toothbrush or, if the gums are too sensitive for 
this, flush the gums with this solution using a syringe.


Diet
Raw diet, per http://catnutrition.org   My recipe with local suppliers 
available on request from khargrea...@gmail.com    



Developed with the help of Dr. Audra MacCorkle http://holisticanimaldoctor.com  
and the forum folks on http://holisticat.com


Dental cleanings in the Los Angeles area:
Four Paws Dental Care
Anesthesia Free Teeth Cleaning for Dogs and Cats
Kim Haba
310-699.0036
k...@fourpawsdentalcare.com





On Thu, Aug 23, 2012 at 7:52 AM, Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote:

Kathryn,
I now that you posted the holistic stomatitis protocol a while back, I thought 
that I saved it, but can’t find it.
I would very much like to try it on two of our FIV+ cats with stomatitis – one 
case is severe, one just a little.  
However, those cats are not easy to handle…would I be able to use it on 
them?Natalie  =^..^=
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Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/WHAT IS STOMATITIS? MY FELV CAT IS FINICKY

2012-08-24 Thread Beth
Check the mouth for sores. Usually cats will spit out there food or run away 
after trying to eat because it it painful. If she is looking thin I'd look at 
her gums to make sure they are pink. Most of mine have died from anemia, which 
is common in FeLV cats. If any of my cats start not acting right I take them in 
for bloodwork. There is so much they can tell that way.

Beth


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 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/WHAT IS STOMATITIS? MY FELV CAT IS FINICKY
 



Hi  Can you all tell me what the stomatitis thing is. I have been reading some 
of your mail.  My felv pos cat has been finicky the past month.  Is this one of 
the symptoms of the disease progressing?  Asked one vet and he said he didn't 
think so.  This was a travelling vet I had to use recently for one of my other 
cats who I could not get in the carrying case.  Sorry for sounding nieve about 
this but it is all new to me.  Chlor felv is a year and a half and a little on 
the small side and looks thin to me lately.  Dotty

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Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/WHAT IS STOMATITIS? MY FELV CAT IS FINICKY

2012-08-24 Thread Lee Evans
Many of the cats I have had drooled after eating or slapped at the side of 
their mouth with their paw.  The gum on the side that has stomatitis is usually 
bright red, inflamed looking and the cat does not like his whisker pad or that 
side of his face touched.  In the beginning cases, they may be what looks like 
finicky because they are trying to avoid pain and the food they usually eats 
seems, to them, to be the culprit, so even when hungry, they will avoid that 
food. Stomatitis is not just for FIV+ or FeLv+ cats.  It knows no boundaries 
unfortunately and perfectly healthy young cats can get it.  Older cats with a 
history of no dental exams are, of course, more at risk.  Stomatitis can also 
lead to kidney problems because of the bacterial build up in the mouth so you 
need to take at-risk cats to have them checked.


 
Spay and Neuter your cats and dogs and your weird relatives and nasty neighbors 
too!





 From: Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com
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Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 7:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/WHAT IS STOMATITIS? MY FELV CAT IS FINICKY
 

Check the mouth for sores. Usually cats will spit out there food or run away 
after trying to eat because it it painful. If she is looking thin I'd look at 
her gums to make sure they are pink. Most of mine have died from anemia, which 
is common in FeLV cats. If any of my cats start not acting right I take them in 
for bloodwork. There is so much they can tell that way.

Beth


Don't Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org
 



 From: dot winkler venus7ora...@yahoo.com
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org felvtalk@felineleukemia.org 
Sent: Friday, August 24, 2012 10:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Stomatitis/WHAT IS STOMATITIS? MY FELV CAT IS FINICKY
 



Hi  Can you all tell me what the stomatitis thing is. I have been reading some 
of your mail.  My felv pos cat has been finicky the past month.  Is this one of 
the symptoms of the disease progressing?  Asked one vet and he said he didn't 
think so.  This was a travelling vet I had to use recently for one of my other 
cats who I could not get in the carrying case.  Sorry for sounding nieve about 
this but it is all new to me.  Chlor felv is a year and a half and a little on 
the small side and looks thin to me lately.  Dotty





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