Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas

2010-10-18 Thread Cougar Clan

pennyroyal and lavender also
On Oct 14, 2010, at 6:25 PM, Beth wrote:

Stay away from tea tree oil. It is toxic to cats  I've seen it in  
Natural remedies for cats - scary! Natural isn't always better.

Beth
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Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas

2010-10-17 Thread Tracey Shrout
Stacy, I used to use Frontline on my 5 kitties but was always worried about
the toxicity of it. I started researching and found a great list about the
toxicity of flea and tick products on the NRDC (national resource defense
council) website. I've always questioned the safeness of those topical
treatments, and was reassured by my vets, but, come on, how can they be safe
when they say YOU should not get them on YOUR skin? Anyway, I decided to go
with Program. The one I buy is the kind you mix in their food. I was leery
that they wouldn't eat it, but all 5 cats ate it w/no problem. It was one of
the products on the list that was considered to have very low
toxicity. Here's the link:
http://www.greenpaws.org/_docs/GP_productlist.pdf  It lists them in order of
risk. I have had no problem with fleas this year, and 4 of my 5 cats go
outside.


On Tue, Oct 12, 2010 at 2:35 PM, Stacy Zacher stacy_zac...@yahoo.comwrote:

 Thanks to everyone for the ideas, I will run them past my vet today and
 confirm if he does have fleas or not.  He eats from only stainless steel or
 ceramic bowls but could have been bitten by something to cause the lump
 under his chin.  So far I've found natural flea products with neem oil,
 clover oil, thyme oil, rosemary oil, citronella oil, celery seed oil,
 eucalyptus oil, cedar oil  (combinations of these).   I will ask the vet
 about testing for FIA/Hemobart if he does indeed have the fleas.
 Hope to be flea free,
 Stacy and Spanky

 Message: 7
 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:51:23 -0400
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas
 Message-ID: 004401cb6a14$8f137ba0$ad3a72...@net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 www.cedarcide.com . The animal can be sprayed directly with no harm. All
 kinds of natural products.
 www.drgoodpet.com - Look under flea control - we use their product to
 spray
 around the house so that no fleas can be brought inside and the cats can
 use
 the outdoor enclosures safely. We use Frontline only on cats that are
 introduced to the fold...and of course, we check if they have fleas.
 The fewer chemicals you use on cats with a compromised immune systems, the
 better!

 -Original Message-
 From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:43 AM
 To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
 Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

 If you see something under the chin, it could be chin acne, often mistaken
 for flea dirt.  Comes mostly from using porous feeding dishes...try using
 only ceramic, stainless steel...There are many non-poisonous alternatives
 against fleasthe cedar one is good.  We use nematodes to spray around
 the house and with so many cats, have no flea problems.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 create_me_...@yahoo.com
 Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:44 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

 I use advantage. FeLV cats are very prone to Hemobartonella, which will
 cause severe anemia  comes from fleas. ALL my cats get Advantage every
 month  I have never had a problem. Fleas also cause tape worms which will
 deprive the cat of nutrients.
 Beth
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Szacherdroid stacy_zac...@yahoo.com
 Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:34:49
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

 Hi all...I suspect Spanky may have fleas. I found some flea dirt looking
 dust and a lump under his chin and also have been seeing little red bugs
 around but no fleas when I comb him. Some were flying so I thought, they
 couldn't be fleas.  I also have a dog and it has been unseasonably warm
 here
 in WI this week.

 Please let me know how you treat an felv kitty with a weak immune system
 for
 fleas.  I am terrified at the prospect of having to spray my home and treat
 him.  He used to get one of the topicals years ago but vet didn't think
 that
 would be good for him now.  We have a vet appt tomorrow for ltci injection
 and bloodwork.   I am taking some of the sample bugs I collected for
 identification.

 Thanks for your help, Stacy and Spanky

 stacy_zac...@yahoo.com



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Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas

2010-10-15 Thread Natalie
It's important never to use any of the essential oils on cats, unless it is 
known not to be harmful to them  - I haven't had a chance to read ASPCA piece 
yet because I'm kept rather busy, 24/7, bottle feeding a teeny kittens since it 
was one day old - now, 2 weeks old. However, there are some products on the 
market with oils, but it's probably either safe or safe in tiny amounts.

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[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of dlg...@windstream.net
Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:55 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas

ASPCA HAS A GOOD ARTICLE ON AROMATHERAPY OILS AND CATS.  MANY CAN BE HARMFUL.  
IT SEEMS CATS DO NOT METABILIZE THEM LIKE WE DO  AND THAT CAUSES THE PROBLEM.  
I HAD ALREADY BOUGHT SOME TEA TREE OIL FOR  MYSELF AND WHEN I FOUND THIS OUT, 
THREW IT IN THE GARBAGE.  DR. FOX ALSO HAS SOME MOE INFO ON OILS AND CATS.


 Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Stay away from tea tree oil. It is toxic to cats  I've seen it in Natural 
 remedies for cats - scary! Natural isn't always better.
 Beth
 Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   
 
 
 
 
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas

2010-10-15 Thread dlgegg
DEPENDS ON THE OIL, SOME LIKE TEA TREE OIL IS NOT SAFE IN ANY AMOUNT.  JUST 
BEST TO CHECK FIRST BEFORE YOU BRING ANY OF THEM INTO YOUR HOUSE.  I ONLY USE 
EUCALIPTUS, PEPPERMINT AND LAVENDER FOR MYSELF.  NO PROBLEMS WITH THEM.
 Natalie at...@optonline.net wrote: 
 It's important never to use any of the essential oils on cats, unless it is 
 known not to be harmful to them  - I haven't had a chance to read ASPCA piece 
 yet because I'm kept rather busy, 24/7, bottle feeding a teeny kittens since 
 it was one day old - now, 2 weeks old. However, there are some products on 
 the market with oils, but it's probably either safe or safe in tiny amounts.
 
 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org 
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of 
 dlg...@windstream.net
 Sent: Thursday, October 14, 2010 11:55 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas
 
 ASPCA HAS A GOOD ARTICLE ON AROMATHERAPY OILS AND CATS.  MANY CAN BE HARMFUL. 
  IT SEEMS CATS DO NOT METABILIZE THEM LIKE WE DO  AND THAT CAUSES THE 
 PROBLEM.  I HAD ALREADY BOUGHT SOME TEA TREE OIL FOR  MYSELF AND WHEN I FOUND 
 THIS OUT, THREW IT IN THE GARBAGE.  DR. FOX ALSO HAS SOME MOE INFO ON OILS 
 AND CATS.
 
 
  Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: 
  Stay away from tea tree oil. It is toxic to cats  I've seen it in 
  Natural remedies for cats - scary! Natural isn't always better.
  Beth
  Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   
  
  
  
  

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Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas

2010-10-14 Thread Beth
Stay away from tea tree oil. It is toxic to cats  I've seen it in Natural 
remedies for cats - scary! Natural isn't always better.
Beth
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Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas

2010-10-14 Thread dlgegg
ASPCA HAS A GOOD ARTICLE ON AROMATHERAPY OILS AND CATS.  MANY CAN BE HARMFUL.  
IT SEEMS CATS DO NOT METABILIZE THEM LIKE WE DO  AND THAT CAUSES THE PROBLEM.  
I HAD ALREADY BOUGHT SOME TEA TREE OIL FOR  MYSELF AND WHEN I FOUND THIS OUT, 
THREW IT IN THE GARBAGE.  DR. FOX ALSO HAS SOME MOE INFO ON OILS AND CATS.


 Beth create_me_...@yahoo.com wrote: 
 Stay away from tea tree oil. It is toxic to cats  I've seen it in Natural 
 remedies for cats - scary! Natural isn't always better.
 Beth
 Dont Litter, Fix Your Critter! www.Furkids.org   
 
 
 
 
   
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Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas

2010-10-13 Thread Cougar Clan
Be careful with some of the natural products and cats. It is one thing  
for them to be safe with dogs

On Oct 12, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Stacy Zacher wrote:

Thanks to everyone for the ideas, I will run them past my vet today  
and confirm if he does have fleas or not.  He eats from only  
stainless steel or ceramic bowls but could have been bitten by  
something to cause the lump under his chin.  So far I've found  
natural flea products with neem oil, clover oil, thyme oil,  
rosemary oil, citronella oil, celery seed oil, eucalyptus oil, cedar  
oil  (combinations of these).   I will ask the vet about testing for  
FIA/Hemobart if he does indeed have the fleas.

Hope to be flea free,
Stacy and Spanky

Message: 7
Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:51:23 -0400
From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas
Message-ID: 004401cb6a14$8f137ba0$ad3a72...@net
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

www.cedarcide.com . The animal can be sprayed directly with no harm.  
All

kinds of natural products.
www.drgoodpet.com - Look under flea control - we use their product  
to spray
around the house so that no fleas can be brought inside and the cats  
can use

the outdoor enclosures safely. We use Frontline only on cats that are
introduced to the fold...and of course, we check if they have fleas.
The fewer chemicals you use on cats with a compromised immune  
systems, the

better!

-Original Message-
From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net]
Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:43 AM
To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

If you see something under the chin, it could be chin acne, often  
mistaken
for flea dirt.  Comes mostly from using porous feeding dishes...try  
using
only ceramic, stainless steel...There are many non-poisonous  
alternatives
against fleasthe cedar one is good.  We use nematodes to spray  
around

the house and with so many cats, have no flea problems.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
create_me_...@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:44 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

I use advantage. FeLV cats are very prone to Hemobartonella, which  
will
cause severe anemia  comes from fleas. ALL my cats get Advantage  
every
month  I have never had a problem. Fleas also cause tape worms  
which will

deprive the cat of nutrients.
Beth
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-Original Message-
From: Szacherdroid stacy_zac...@yahoo.com
Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:34:49
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

Hi all...I suspect Spanky may have fleas. I found some flea dirt  
looking
dust and a lump under his chin and also have been seeing little red  
bugs
around but no fleas when I comb him. Some were flying so I thought,  
they
couldn't be fleas.  I also have a dog and it has been unseasonably  
warm here

in WI this week.

Please let me know how you treat an felv kitty with a weak immune  
system for
fleas.  I am terrified at the prospect of having to spray my home  
and treat
him.  He used to get one of the topicals years ago but vet didn't  
think that
would be good for him now.  We have a vet appt tomorrow for ltci  
injection

and bloodwork.   I am taking some of the sample bugs I collected for
identification.

Thanks for your help, Stacy and Spanky

stacy_zac...@yahoo.com



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Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas

2010-10-13 Thread Natalie
That's correct, never use anything that is meant for dog on cats!  However,
the two listed sites, have products for both cats and dogs.

-Original Message-
From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
[mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of Cougar Clan
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 10:59 AM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Subject: Help- need advice on fleas

Be careful with some of the natural products and cats. It is one thing  
for them to be safe with dogs
On Oct 12, 2010, at 1:35 PM, Stacy Zacher wrote:

 Thanks to everyone for the ideas, I will run them past my vet today  
 and confirm if he does have fleas or not.  He eats from only  
 stainless steel or ceramic bowls but could have been bitten by  
 something to cause the lump under his chin.  So far I've found  
 natural flea products with neem oil, clover oil, thyme oil,  
 rosemary oil, citronella oil, celery seed oil, eucalyptus oil, cedar  
 oil  (combinations of these).   I will ask the vet about testing for  
 FIA/Hemobart if he does indeed have the fleas.
 Hope to be flea free,
 Stacy and Spanky

 Message: 7
 Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 09:51:23 -0400
 From: Natalie at...@optonline.net
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas
 Message-ID: 004401cb6a14$8f137ba0$ad3a72...@net
 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii

 www.cedarcide.com . The animal can be sprayed directly with no harm.  
 All
 kinds of natural products.
 www.drgoodpet.com - Look under flea control - we use their product  
 to spray
 around the house so that no fleas can be brought inside and the cats  
 can use
 the outdoor enclosures safely. We use Frontline only on cats that are
 introduced to the fold...and of course, we check if they have fleas.
 The fewer chemicals you use on cats with a compromised immune  
 systems, the
 better!

 -Original Message-
 From: Natalie [mailto:at...@optonline.net]
 Sent: Tuesday, October 12, 2010 9:43 AM
 To: 'felvtalk@felineleukemia.org'
 Subject: RE: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

 If you see something under the chin, it could be chin acne, often  
 mistaken
 for flea dirt.  Comes mostly from using porous feeding dishes...try  
 using
 only ceramic, stainless steel...There are many non-poisonous  
 alternatives
 against fleasthe cedar one is good.  We use nematodes to spray  
 around
 the house and with so many cats, have no flea problems.

 -Original Message-
 From: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 [mailto:felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org] On Behalf Of
 create_me_...@yahoo.com
 Sent: Monday, October 11, 2010 10:44 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

 I use advantage. FeLV cats are very prone to Hemobartonella, which  
 will
 cause severe anemia  comes from fleas. ALL my cats get Advantage  
 every
 month  I have never had a problem. Fleas also cause tape worms  
 which will
 deprive the cat of nutrients.
 Beth
 Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

 -Original Message-
 From: Szacherdroid stacy_zac...@yahoo.com
 Sender: felvtalk-boun...@felineleukemia.org
 Date: Mon, 11 Oct 2010 21:34:49
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Reply-To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: [Felvtalk] Help- need advice on fleas

 Hi all...I suspect Spanky may have fleas. I found some flea dirt  
 looking
 dust and a lump under his chin and also have been seeing little red  
 bugs
 around but no fleas when I comb him. Some were flying so I thought,  
 they
 couldn't be fleas.  I also have a dog and it has been unseasonably  
 warm here
 in WI this week.

 Please let me know how you treat an felv kitty with a weak immune  
 system for
 fleas.  I am terrified at the prospect of having to spray my home  
 and treat
 him.  He used to get one of the topicals years ago but vet didn't  
 think that
 would be good for him now.  We have a vet appt tomorrow for ltci  
 injection
 and bloodwork.   I am taking some of the sample bugs I collected for
 identification.

 Thanks for your help, Stacy and Spanky

 stacy_zac...@yahoo.com



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