Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils and Shmoo

2013-12-22 Thread Margo
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils and Shmoo

2013-12-22 Thread Katherine Kershaw
Hi Margo, 

Thanks for this info. I apologize, but he could have been sedated, I'm not sure 
of the difference so I could be mistaken in my description. We were able to 
'wake' him afterward but he was very groggy for a good part of the night. 

I'll ask about these drugs. I'm also gonna take him with me to Krammer's 
appointment tomorrow (different vet) to ask a few more questions. Thanks!

Katherine

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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-22 Thread trustinhim13
I have given it to several of my cats from time to time (Clindanycin). I 
didn't know it was bad tasting. My cats tolerated it very well. And with 
mouth sores, I administer it on the side of the mouth with the sore. 
When cats have mouth sores, a liquid works better than pills. It hurts 
less to swallow. I give them liquid vitamins, plus a solution of 
pedialyte and liquid fish oil at the same time.



On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 2:03 PM, Margo wrote:

Clindrops is likely Clindamycin. It has several trade names, including 
Antirobe. Also comes in little tiny pills. The liquid tastes foul, but 
is better cold, s refrigerate it. Try to follow it with something 
tasty. It is good for mouth issues, as well as abcesses, and some 
types of pneumonia. One I try to keep on hand.



HTH

Margo


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From: trustinhi...@charter.net
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

I gave my Pookie Clin Drops (short for clin...something). Very 
economical. Works well for infections that are in the mouth or 
tissues. Very economical. I also took him for acupuncture. Carolyn



On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:


Hi all,

Off topic or a new one.
My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience 
with severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young 
for stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time.
My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, 
we're leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it.


It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when 
yawning, but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has 
awful breath which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis.


Please help!
Jen


On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote:


One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive.
He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued 
him.


Lorrie

On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
  The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and 
then only

  a couple.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-22 Thread trustinhim13

praying fro Schmoo


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 6:24 PM, Katherine K. wrote:

We tapped Shmoo's lungs last night for fluid. Drew out about 90ml 
total. He
had a rough night coming off the anesthesia but was better this 
morning.
Still a little labored in breathing but not as bad as before the tap 
and I

was so glad to see him purring and stretching happily. But he mostly
relaxed/laid around today, unlike his 2 active siblings. Vet said the 
fluid
will likely refill in a few days so we just spend as much time with 
him as
we can while we wait. I'm unable to search the archives right now but 
isn't
there anything else I can do to make the fluid stop? Didn't expect to 
lose

another one so soon after Terence. He's so innocent.

Katherine

On Friday, December 20, 2013, Lance wrote:

Anisocoria can be an indicator of FeLV presence, though I don’t think 
it
indicates progression of the disease in any way that we know about. 
Ember
developed anisocoria almost five years ago, when she was seven. I 
haven’t
taken her to a specialist, but we ruled out toxo. At times, the vet 
has
thought that the pupil has gotten a bit smaller, but I’ve never seen 
a real

change.

Lance

On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Katherine K. 
kaths...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 
'kaths...@gmail.com');

wrote:

Hi everyone,

I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. 
He had
a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had 
some
drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up 
on
it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it 
came
back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected 
eye is
squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while 
the
other pupil looks normal.  I'm not sure if this is just a herpes 
flare up,
or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I 
found the

term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a
little more.

Second question:
One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would 
call
labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose 
moving

as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he
coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white 
cat),
looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He 
looked pink
again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here 
too in

case anyone has input.

Thanks,
Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-21 Thread Margo


I'm thinking this is for the mouth issues, not uneven pupils? Just wanted to 
say that generic Zyrtec (cetirizine) is often available on pharmacy's $4.00 
programs. If the cause is allergy related, it might help.

Margo

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From: Gloria B. Lane gbl...@aristotle.net
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To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

I have 2-3 methods I use
1) I started out giving a depomedrol injection periodically (once every 4-6 
weeks or as needed).  Seems like it's 1/2 cc depo.

2) Then someone suggested oral dexamethasone - so I give about 1/2 cc Dex 
orally, and it lasts a few days.  Sometimes though they're quite resistant to 
having something squirted in the mouth. 

3) the most recent option Ive tried is Zyrtec.  I buy Zyrtec at the grocery 
store or pharmacy.  Also got a pill cutter and cut the Zyrtec in half.  I put 
the half zyrtec in wet food once a day.  You may need to crush it at first.

I've started doing the last two together in some cases.  Have found the Zyrtec 
very helpful for some runny noses too.

But to start out, with a difficult cat, I do Depo for about a month and see 
how that works and if I can switch to Dex.

If you google these options you can find out more, of course.  

Gloria



On Dec 21, 2013, at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Off topic or a new one.
 My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience with 
 severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young for 
 stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time. 
 
 My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, we're 
 leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it.
 
 It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when yawning, 
 but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has awful breath 
 which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis.
 
 Please help!
 Jen
 
 
 On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote:
 
 One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive.
 He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
  The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only
  a couple.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-21 Thread trustinhim13
I gave my Pookie Clin Drops (short for clin...something). Very 
economical. Works well for infections that are in the mouth or tissues. 
Very economical. I also took him for acupuncture. Carolyn



On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:


Hi all,

Off topic or a new one.
My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience 
with severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young 
for stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time.
My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, 
we're leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it.


It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when 
yawning, but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has 
awful breath which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis.


Please help!
Jen


On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote:


One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive.
He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him.

Lorrie

On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
  The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then 
only

  a couple.



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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-21 Thread Gloria B. Lane
Probably Clindamycin...  I always keep it around.


On Dec 21, 2013, at 12:12 PM, trustinhi...@charter.net wrote:

 I gave my Pookie Clin Drops (short for clin...something). Very economical. 
 Works well for infections that are in the mouth or tissues. Very economical. 
 I also took him for acupuncture. Carolyn
 
 
 On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Off topic or a new one.
 My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience with 
 severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young for 
 stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time.
 My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, we're 
 leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it.
 
 It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when yawning, 
 but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has awful breath 
 which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis.
 
 Please help!
 Jen
 
 
 On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote:
 
 One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive.
 He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
  The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only
  a couple.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-21 Thread Margo


Clindrops is likely Clindamycin. It has several trade names, including 
Antirobe. Also comes in little tiny pills. The liquid tastes foul, but is 
better cold, s refrigerate it. Try to follow it with something tasty. It is 
good for mouth issues, as well as abcesses, and some types of pneumonia. One I 
try to keep on hand.


HTH

Margo


-Original Message-
From: trustinhi...@charter.net
Sent: Dec 21, 2013 1:12 PM
To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

I gave my Pookie Clin Drops (short for clin...something). Very 
economical. Works well for infections that are in the mouth or tissues. 
Very economical. I also took him for acupuncture. Carolyn


On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:

 Hi all,

 Off topic or a new one.
 My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience 
 with severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young 
 for stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time.
 My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, 
 we're leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it.

 It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when 
 yawning, but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has 
 awful breath which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis.

 Please help!
 Jen


 On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote:

 One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive.
 He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him.

 Lorrie

 On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
   The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then 
 only
   a couple.


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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-21 Thread Jennifer Lewis
Thanks!
Jen
On Dec 21, 2013, at 12:03 PM, Margo wrote:

 
 
 Clindrops is likely Clindamycin. It has several trade names, including 
 Antirobe. Also comes in little tiny pills. The liquid tastes foul, but is 
 better cold, s refrigerate it. Try to follow it with something tasty. It is 
 good for mouth issues, as well as abcesses, and some types of pneumonia. One 
 I try to keep on hand.
 
 
 HTH
 
 Margo
 
 
 -Original Message-
 From: trustinhi...@charter.net
 Sent: Dec 21, 2013 1:12 PM
 To: felvtalk@felineleukemia.org
 Subject: Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils
 
 I gave my Pookie Clin Drops (short for clin...something). Very 
 economical. Works well for infections that are in the mouth or tissues. 
 Very economical. I also took him for acupuncture. Carolyn
 
 
 On Sat, Dec 21, 2013 at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Off topic or a new one.
 My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience 
 with severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young 
 for stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time.
 My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, 
 we're leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it.
 
 It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when 
 yawning, but it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has 
 awful breath which makes me think as well it may be stomatitis.
 
 Please help!
 Jen
 
 
 On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote:
 
 One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive.
 He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
  The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then 
 only
  a couple.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-21 Thread Katherine K.
We tapped Shmoo's lungs last night for fluid. Drew out about 90ml total. He
had a rough night coming off the anesthesia but was better this morning.
Still a little labored in breathing but not as bad as before the tap and I
was so glad to see him purring and stretching happily. But he mostly
relaxed/laid around today, unlike his 2 active siblings. Vet said the fluid
will likely refill in a few days so we just spend as much time with him as
we can while we wait. I'm unable to search the archives right now but isn't
there anything else I can do to make the fluid stop? Didn't expect to lose
another one so soon after Terence. He's so innocent.

Katherine

On Friday, December 20, 2013, Lance wrote:

 Anisocoria can be an indicator of FeLV presence, though I don’t think it
 indicates progression of the disease in any way that we know about. Ember
 developed anisocoria almost five years ago, when she was seven. I haven’t
 taken her to a specialist, but we ruled out toxo. At times, the vet has
 thought that the pupil has gotten a bit smaller, but I’ve never seen a real
 change.

 Lance

 On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Katherine K. 
 kaths...@gmail.comjavascript:_e({}, 'cvml', 'kaths...@gmail.com');
 wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He had
 a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had some
 drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up on
 it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came
 back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is
 squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the
 other pupil looks normal.  I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up,
 or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found the
 term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a
 little more.

 Second question:
 One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call
 labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving
 as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he
 coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white cat),
 looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He looked pink
 again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here too in
 case anyone has input.

 Thanks,
 Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-20 Thread Katherine K.
Forgot to say - Krammer has an appointment for Monday morning with his
usual vet, but I could take him tomorrow if needed. I am not sure how
urgent it is.


On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He had
 a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had some
 drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up on
 it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came
 back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is
 squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the
 other pupil looks normal.  I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up,
 or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found the
 term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a
 little more.

 Second question:
 One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call
 labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving
 as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he
 coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white cat),
 looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He looked pink
 again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here too in
 case anyone has input.

 Thanks,
 Katherine

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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-20 Thread Marcia
I can tell you from experience that sometimes an uneven pupil can be caused by 
an ear infection. Good luck with your babies(-:

Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(:


 On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Forgot to say - Krammer has an appointment for Monday morning with his usual 
 vet, but I could take him tomorrow if needed. I am not sure how urgent it is. 
 
 
 On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He had a 
 winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had some 
 drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up on it's 
 own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came back, 
 this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is 
 squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the other 
 pupil looks normal.  I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up, or 
 something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found the 
 term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a little 
 more. 
 
 Second question:
 One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call 
 labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving 
 as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he 
 coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white cat), 
 looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He looked pink 
 again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here too in 
 case anyone has input. 
 
 Thanks,
 Katherine
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-20 Thread Heather
I think there can be a variety of causes.  Some of the ones of concern, I
think, are high blood pressure, tumor, and toxoplasmosis possibly.  We had
a 14 year old feral FIV+ kitty who had an eye issue like this and my vet
felt it was a tumor, we then found out she had CRF and toxoplasmosis (vet
didn't feel eye related to toxo) and she was treated for just under a year,
sucessfully, for all until a urinary issue took her quality of life.  At
first I'd been so scared of an eye tumor, but the eye was never a problem
again.  I've had other feral cats with uneven pupils where it never seemed
to be a problem.

Good luck


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 I can tell you from experience that sometimes an uneven pupil can be
 caused by an ear infection. Good luck with your babies(-:

 Sent from my absolutely outstanding iphone(:


 On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:

 Forgot to say - Krammer has an appointment for Monday morning with his
 usual vet, but I could take him tomorrow if needed. I am not sure how
 urgent it is.


 On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,

 I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He
 had a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had
 some drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up
 on it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came
 back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is
 squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the
 other pupil looks normal.  I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up,
 or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found the
 term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a
 little more.

 Second question:
 One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call
 labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving
 as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he
 coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white cat),
 looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He looked pink
 again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here too in
 case anyone has input.

 Thanks,
 Katherine


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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-20 Thread gbl...@aristotle.net
The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only a 
couple. 

Sent from my iPhone

 On Dec 20, 2013, at 11:13 AM, Heather furrygi...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 I think there can be a variety of causes.  Some of the ones of concern, I 
 think, are high blood pressure, tumor, and toxoplasmosis possibly.  We had a 
 14 year old feral FIV+ kitty who had an eye issue like this and my vet felt 
 it was a tumor, we then found out she had CRF and toxoplasmosis (vet didn't 
 feel eye related to toxo) and she was treated for just under a year, 
 sucessfully, for all until a urinary issue took her quality of life.  At 
 first I'd been so scared of an eye tumor, but the eye was never a problem 
 again.  I've had other feral cats with uneven pupils where it never seemed to 
 be a problem.
  
 Good luck
 
 
 On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 11:01 AM, Marcia marciabmar...@gmail.com wrote:
 I can tell you from experience that sometimes an uneven pupil can be caused 
 by an ear infection. Good luck with your babies(-:
 
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 On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:46 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Forgot to say - Krammer has an appointment for Monday morning with his 
 usual vet, but I could take him tomorrow if needed. I am not sure how 
 urgent it is. 
 
 
 On Fri, Dec 20, 2013 at 10:44 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hi everyone,
 
 I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He had 
 a winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had some 
 drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up on 
 it's own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came 
 back, this time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is 
 squinty, third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the 
 other pupil looks normal.  I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up, 
 or something else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found 
 the term anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a 
 little more. 
 
 Second question:
 One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call 
 labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving 
 as he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he 
 coughed/wheezed a little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white 
 cat), looked slightly purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He 
 looked pink again this morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention 
 it here too in case anyone has input. 
 
 Thanks,
 Katherine
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-20 Thread Lance
Anisocoria can be an indicator of FeLV presence, though I don’t think it 
indicates progression of the disease in any way that we know about. Ember 
developed anisocoria almost five years ago, when she was seven. I haven’t taken 
her to a specialist, but we ruled out toxo. At times, the vet has thought that 
the pupil has gotten a bit smaller, but I’ve never seen a real change. 

Lance

On Dec 20, 2013, at 9:44 AM, Katherine K. kaths...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi everyone,
 
 I just noticed my 10 year old FeLV cat, Krammer, has uneven pupils. He had a 
 winky/weepy eye a couple of weeks ago for a few days, where he had some 
 drainage and one eye was squinty with a smaller pupil. It cleared up on it's 
 own after a few days (I give him lysine). A day or two ago it came back, this 
 time the other eye (if I recall correctly). The affected eye is squinty, 
 third eyelid shows a little, and one pupil is small while the other pupil 
 looks normal.  I'm not sure if this is just a herpes flare up, or something 
 else. He first tested positive about 6 months ago. I found the term 
 anisocoria while searching this list archives. Gonna research a little more. 
 
 Second question:
 One of my 8 month old FeLV kittens, Shmoo, began having what I would call 
 labored or heavy breathing 2 days ago. I can see his sides and nose moving as 
 he breathes. He is a little less active, and last night he coughed/wheezed a 
 little and his paw pads, usually pink (he's a white cat), looked slightly 
 purple, like he's not getting enough oxygen. He looked pink again this 
 morning. Gonna take him in, but wanted to mention it here too in case anyone 
 has input. 
 
 Thanks,
 Katherine
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-20 Thread Lorrie
One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive.
He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him.

Lorrie

On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only
a couple.
 

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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-20 Thread Jennifer Lewis
Hi all,

Off topic or a new one.
My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience with severe 
mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young for stomatitis, but 
she's having a horrific time. 

My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, we're 
leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it.

It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when yawning, but 
it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has awful breath which makes 
me think as well it may be stomatitis.

Please help!
Jen


On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote:

 One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive.
 He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
   The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only
   a couple.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-20 Thread dlgegg
I HATE PEOPLE WHO HIT ANIMALS.  I ONCE HAD A BEAUTIFUL CHAMPAGNE COLORED 
PERSIAN THAT SHOWED UP ONE DAY.  HE NEVER WOULD LET YOU TOUCH HIS REAR END.  HE 
HAD A REOCCURRING URINARY TRACK PROBLEM WHICH USUALLY REQUIRED MED'S AND LAST 
ONE, VET HAD TO RELIEVE HIS BLADDER FOR HIM.  HE WENT TO BED AROUND 11:30 
BECAUSE HE SEEMED TO BE OKAY.  NEXT MORNING HE WAS DEAD.  HE DID AUTOPSY TO SEE 
WHAT WENT WRONG - ADHESIONS ALL OVER INSIDE.  HE SAID FOR THAT TO HAPPEN, 
SOMEONE REPEATEDLY KICKED HIM VERY HARD, LIKE BOUNCING HIM OFF A WALL.  HE HAD 
ONE YEAR WITH US AND MANY SNACKS OF DANISH WITH MY FATHER.  HE THOUGHT IT WAS 
CUTE BECAUSE HE WOULD MEOW ONCE OR TWICE AND THEN SWAT HIM ON THE LEG TO GET 
HIS TREAT.
 Lorrie felineres...@frontier.com wrote: 
 One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive.
 He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
 The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only
 a couple.
  
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2013-12-20 Thread Gloria B. Lane
I have 2-3 methods I use
1) I started out giving a depomedrol injection periodically (once every 4-6 
weeks or as needed).  Seems like it's 1/2 cc depo.

2) Then someone suggested oral dexamethasone - so I give about 1/2 cc Dex 
orally, and it lasts a few days.  Sometimes though they're quite resistant to 
having something squirted in the mouth. 

3) the most recent option Ive tried is Zyrtec.  I buy Zyrtec at the grocery 
store or pharmacy.  Also got a pill cutter and cut the Zyrtec in half.  I put 
the half zyrtec in wet food once a day.  You may need to crush it at first.

I've started doing the last two together in some cases.  Have found the Zyrtec 
very helpful for some runny noses too.

But to start out, with a difficult cat, I do Depo for about a month and see how 
that works and if I can switch to Dex.

If you google these options you can find out more, of course.  

Gloria



On Dec 21, 2013, at 12:29 AM, Jennifer Lewis wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 Off topic or a new one.
 My poor Bryyn is having an awful time. Does anyone have experience with 
 severe mouth pain? I've been told by vets that she's too young for 
 stomatitis, but she's having a horrific time. 
 
 My vet prescribed prednisone, but not only does it not seem to help, we're 
 leery of it for the long term and honestly can't afford it.
 
 It seemed to be mostly jaw/lymph related as she would freak when yawning, but 
 it's getting worse and I'm beside myself. She also has awful breath which 
 makes me think as well it may be stomatitis.
 
 Please help!
 Jen
 
 
 On Dec 20, 2013, at 3:42 PM, Lorrie wrote:
 
 One of my cats has uneven pupils, but he is not FelV positive.
 He was hit on the head by some low life bastard before I rescued him.
 
 Lorrie
 
 On 12-20, gbl...@aristotle.net wrote:
  The only ones I've had with uneven pupils are Felv cats, and then only
  a couple.
 
 
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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2009-08-14 Thread Laurieskatz
I was told to always have a cat checked if pupils are uneven. I believe it
is indicative of a neurological problem.

 
 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Claire Smith
sassybean...@yahoo.comwrote:
 
 
  I have a question - not sure how to submit it. I have 2 cats who
  are feline leukemia positive. From outward appearances, they look
  and basically act healthy. One of them has started having a
  dilated pupil - it is not constant but it has been occuring a lot
  lately. She will also start panting and breathing heavy - I have
  central air and keep it on all the time.The last time she did
  this, it was actually very cool in her room. The other one had
  seizures one day several months ago - that was the one and only
  time that occured. But several months ago, his 3rd eyelid (on
  both eyes) started staying out. He can still see but not too
  well.
 
  Is there anything I need to do or is this just part of the
  disease? There are no other symptoms for either one of them at
  this time.
 
  Claire

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Re: [Felvtalk] Uneven pupils

2009-08-13 Thread Lorrie
One of my rescues has uneven pupils, and he is negative for FelV and
FIV.  He had an injury to his head when I found him, and the vet
thinks it caused him to go blind in one eye. He's fine otherwise.
I've had him for over a year now and he's turned into a real head
bonker.

I don't think (but not sure) uneven pupils are caused from FelV,
but the breathing problem could be caused from anemia, a common
thing with FelV cats.

On 08-13, Heather wrote: My 14/15 year old feral FIV+ feral kitty
 Bobbi had uneven pupils, the vet felt it was a tumor but in her
 remaining 9 months there were no further changes or indications,
 she also had toxoplasmosis  my vet didn't think it was due to
 that, but, I sort of suspected it was since there were no further
 problems and to me it looked more normal after Toxo treatment.
 
 On Tue, Aug 11, 2009 at 4:29 PM, Claire Smith sassybean...@yahoo.comwrote:
 
 
  I have a question - not sure how to submit it. I have 2 cats who
  are feline leukemia positive. From outward appearances, they look
  and basically act healthy. One of them has started having a
  dilated pupil - it is not constant but it has been occuring a lot
  lately. She will also start panting and breathing heavy - I have
  central air and keep it on all the time.The last time she did
  this, it was actually very cool in her room. The other one had
  seizures one day several months ago - that was the one and only
  time that occured. But several months ago, his 3rd eyelid (on
  both eyes) started staying out. He can still see but not too
  well.
 
  Is there anything I need to do or is this just part of the
  disease? There are no other symptoms for either one of them at
  this time.
 
  Claire

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